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Former galaxy s 2 owners, please read.

I just bought a sgs2 and decided to take out back within the 14 day period to get my money back and sit and wait for the Nexus to come to t-mobile in the states.
Now that's my plan. I have the sgs2 boxed up in my cart waiting till i get off work to take it back. Galaxy Nexus owners, am i making the right decision? If you have owned a Galaxy S 2 and ditched it for a Galaxy Nexus i want to hear you're thoughts on it. Thank you very much.
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ksnexusone said:
I just bought a sgs2 and decided to take out back within the 14 day period to get my money back and sit and wait for the Nexus to come to t-mobile in the states.
Now that's my plan. I have the sgs2 boxed up in my cart waiting till i get off work to take it back. Galaxy Nexus owners, am i making the right decision? If you have owned a Galaxy S 2 and ditched it for a Galaxy Nexus i want to hear you're thoughts on it. Thank you very much.
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You don't have the 'true' galaxy S II. You have what many people consider the handicapped version with the Snapdragon chipset.
Take it back and get the Nexus. You'll be happy you did.

crazy talk said:
You don't have the 'true' galaxy S II. You have what many people consider the handicapped version with the Snapdragon chipset.
Take it back and get the Nexus. You'll be happy you did.
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The Sprint version is pretty good, that's what I have now. Bigger screen, faster CPU, definitely better than the other variants I think.

So you guys think the t-mobile version is handicapped even though it has a 1.5gb dual core chip set?
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ksnexusone said:
So you guys think the t-mobile version is handicapped even though it has a 1.5gb dual core chip set?
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The snapdragon chipset is slower than the Exynos/OMAP in all situations despite its higher clock speed.
Check some reviews on anandtech....

I have the GS II, and so far happy with it, is what we have now with Tmo. Would I want the Nexus? Maybe but do I want to wait how long? 60 or 90 days? no. As for the Hercules been handicapped? I don’t see any evidence of this: it has a faster processor and the screen is just beautiful, this phone is a Beast!! And the Nexus looks like something very different this time…

'nuff said
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I just checked the nexus out (in manchester,uk). after playing with it for 15mins, cant really say its much of an upgrade on the sgs2 - especially once that gets ics
the sales guy really didnt know much about it other than it 'having the new android'. i knew more than him after playing with it (before all i knew was ics and curved screen)

I still have my brand new galaxy S 2 in the box all packed back up. I was 100% planning on taking it back to the tmo store. but now im wondering after the galaxy S 2 gets ice cream sandwich, then how do they compare to each other?
just the hardware side by side.
1.2 dual core vs 1.5 dual core?
4.65 vs 4.5 in screen.
5mp/1.3mp vs 8mp/2mp (back/front cameras).
come on galaxy nexus users. tell me what you think of this matchup. it is soo hard for me to make up my mind. if only i knew any idea timeframe of when tmo is gonna get the galaxy nexus/prime....hehe

ksnexusone said:
I still have my brand new galaxy S 2 in the box all packed back up. I was 100% planning on taking it back to the tmo store. but now im wondering after the galaxy S 2 gets ice cream sandwich, then how do they compare to each other?
just the hardware side by side.
1.2 dual core vs 1.5 dual core?
4.65 vs 4.5 in screen.
5mp/1.3mp vs 8mp/2mp (back/front cameras).
come on galaxy nexus users. tell me what you think of this matchup. it is soo hard for me to make up my mind. if only i knew any idea timeframe of when tmo is gonna get the galaxy nexus/prime....hehe
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Maybe you should check out the T-MO GS2 forums. A stock Hercules is not as fast as the 'real' Galaxy S2, but a big part of the problem isn't so much that the CPU is slower, but rather Samsung didn't optimized their TouchWiz stuff for that chipset so there is significant lag when using the UI. If you plan to root and rom, however, just browsing the T-Mo GS2 Dev forum here reveals that there are apparently a handful of roms for it that appear to be really really fast, so if you are going to root the phone it might end up being a beast for you.
Personally I'm pretty torn right now. I'm on Verizon and could just wait for the Nexus, but it has its flaws like any other phone and I'm tempted to pay almost 60 bucks a month less on a T-Mobile value plan vs. my VZW unlimited plan. If I did go that route I could import a Nexus, or the T-Mo GS2 is definitely an option b/c of the dev community. I also played with the Rezound a bit tonight and I think if that phone gets root/S-off it will be an absolute beast (already really nice stock)....so yeah I dunno what to tell you.

Brendo said:
the sales guy really didnt know much about it other than it 'having the new android'. i knew more than him after playing with it (before all i knew was ics and curved screen)
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most shop staff seem to be completely clueless about the phone. Seems that Phones4u, O2, Carphone Warehouse, and 3-UK retail shops have given their staff absolutely no training or supplemental material for this phone.
they should give me a job, I know more about the handsets than they do! woman in the O2 shop said that my giffgaff SIM card would not work on a SIM-locked handset, even after I informed her that giffgaff is a wholly owned subsidiary of O2 and runs on the O2 network

ksnexusone said:
I still have my brand new galaxy S 2 in the box all packed back up. I was 100% planning on taking it back to the tmo store. but now im wondering after the galaxy S 2 gets ice cream sandwich, then how do they compare to each other?
just the hardware side by side.
1.2 dual core vs 1.5 dual core?
4.65 vs 4.5 in screen.
5mp/1.3mp vs 8mp/2mp (back/front cameras).
come on galaxy nexus users. tell me what you think of this matchup. it is soo hard for me to make up my mind. if only i knew any idea timeframe of when tmo is gonna get the galaxy nexus/prime....hehe
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Has the 4.5 screen of sgs 2 the same resolution or just 800x480?
You will have a screwed up version of Android as well.
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oscillik said:
most shop staff seem to be completely clueless about the phone. Seems that Phones4u, O2, Carphone Warehouse, and 3-UK retail shops have given their staff absolutely no training or supplemental material for this phone.
they should give me a job, I know more about the handsets than they do! woman in the O2 shop said that my giffgaff SIM card would not work on a SIM-locked handset, even after I informed her that giffgaff is a wholly owned subsidiary of O2 and runs on the O2 network
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When I bought my Nexus S the salesman asked me if I would like to buy a SD card for it...
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Nebucatnetzer said:
When I bought my Nexus S the salesman asked me if I would like to buy a SD card for it...
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you should've enquired about buying navicore or tomtom

i cannot speak on when tmo-us will get the nexus. could be anytime this year or next year. if you return the gs2 what will be your fall back phone until the nexus? also do not let the processor speed on the tmo gs2 deceive you. it is still slower than the exynos/omap. snapdragon is slower. i've had the the global gs2 and the tmo gs2 and there is glaring difference in speed to me. your decision depends on your tolerance to wait. Also keep in mind that being that the tmo gs2 uses a different chipset and (most likely) will not get ics as quickly as the global gs2 (opinion). i'm biting the bullet selling my tmo-gs2 and going to verizon dec 8th.

AllGamer said:
'nuff said
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This just proves that benchmarks are completely inaccurate. The snapdragon chipset are the weakest chipset out of Exynos, OMAP and snapdragon. Nothing can hold a candle next to Samsung's Exynos chipset, with of course the exception of the few quad-core that are out. But if/when Samsung makes a quad-core Exynos, it's over with. They will make other quad-cores look like dual-cores. Samsung's build quality is very questionable but their hardware is a couple of steps ahead of all other OEM's.
Meh

AllGamer said:
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Sadly, no. The MIUI phone has been heavily optimized. And one benchmark is hardly enough to prove anything.

Actually that benchmark is the only one I've seen where the Snapdragon S3's were not completely crushed by Exynos/OMAP. The only weaker chipset is the original Tegra2 which lacks NEON.

AllGamer said:
'nuff said
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You do realize that this Benchmark is made by Qualcomm?!
Of course their chipsets perform well in their own benchmarks

AllGamer said:
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I'd like to see what the score would be with the the OG SGS II overclocked to 1.6

[INFO] Galaxy Nexus appears to be fastest smartphone available. (Benchmark Within)

Posted over at DroidDog, it appears that the new Galaxy Nexus is currently the fastest phone available when it comes to the browser:
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And while the browser benchmarks are impressive, DroidDog did go on to say:
"But while the G-NEX kicked but[sic] in the browser test it couldn’t compete with the iPhone in the graphics department."
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Hopefully, we'll get to experience the quickness very soon whenever Verizon gets off their hinds and releases our phones.

might want to change the title of this thread, it is disingenuous to say the least...

oscillik said:
might want to change the title of this thread, it is disingenuous to say the least...
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I disagree. A majority of the review sites use the Browser benchmarks as the ultimate decider on how good a phone is. A phone isn't used for gaming very often...but *is* used for browsing. The browsing score is much more important to most people than the gaming scores. As long as it plays most basic games I'm fine with it...but having the browser be the quickest is very important to me.

hotleadsingerguy said:
I disagree. A majority of the review sites use the Browser benchmarks as the ultimate decider on how good a phone is. A phone isn't used for gaming very often...but *is* used for browsing. The browsing score is much more important to most people than the gaming scores. As long as it plays most basic games I'm fine with it...but having the browser be the quickest is very important to me.
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oh okay, fair enough.
The browser is damn fast on the thing, i love it.

oscillik said:
oh okay, fair enough.
The browser is damn fast on the thing, i love it.
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Well when Verizon steps up their game I'll be excited to try it out haha

browser improvements seem to be mostly linked to ICS as well as the TI OMAP having to do a little with it.
The Nexus S with ICS seemed to get a huge boost in browser performance.
Let's see how GSII and other devices stack up against the GN once they get ICS.
The Galnet ICS port for GSII shows it getting faster sunspider score than the Galaxy Nexus by a bit. Though this one is clocked at 1.6ghz. I'd say its an even battle.

Would be nice if people actually link to Anandtech as thats where the original graph came from in the original post.

htcplussony said:
Would be nice if people actually link to Anandtech as thats where the original graph came from in the original post.
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It would be nice if people were actually informed and read the article in the OP. Mail Online conducted the test and posted the original graph. Apology accepted.

Please read the original Mail Online article.

htcplussony said:
Please read the original Mail Online article.
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I stand corrected.
PWNT, burned at the stake, then buried. *runs away with tail between the legs*

lol. You think the *Daily Mail* are capable of running benchmarks?
They nicked the graphs from anandtech. They even admit it...

oscillik said:
might want to change the title of this thread, it is disingenuous to say the least...
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Exactly! My Optimus 2X getsa score of 113592...way faster :-D.

pewpewbangbang said:
browser improvements seem to be mostly linked to ICS as well as the TI OMAP having to do a little with it.
The Nexus S with ICS seemed to get a huge boost in browser performance.
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You're right. They've optimized the browser "dramatically" (lol) on ICS. From the Android site: http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-4.0-highlights.html
Across all types of content, the Android Browser offers dramatically improved*page rendering performancethrough updated versions of the WebKit core and the V8 Crankshaft compilation engine for JavaScript. In benchmarks run on a Nexus S device, the Android 4.0 browser showed an improvement of nearly 220% over the Android 2.3 browser in the V8 Benchmark Suite and more than 35% in the SunSpider 9.1 JavaScript Benchmark. When run on a Galaxy Nexus device, the Android 4.0 browser showed improvement of nearly 550% in the V8 benchmark and nearly 70% in the SunSpider benchmark.
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-BoneZ- said:
Posted over at DroidDog, it appears that the new Galaxy Nexus is currently the fastest phone available when it comes to the browser:
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blo...hone-4s-and-droid-razr-as-fastest-smartphone/
And while the browser benchmarks are impressive, DroidDog did go on to say:
Hopefully, we'll get to experience the quickness very soon whenever Verizon gets off their hinds and releases our phones.
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Browser mark is flaky at best. I've played with a Bionic and gotten like 93k then 98k with a RAZR. The scores fluctuate a lot. My concern is they said the phone stutters, the display is pixelated and the audio issues. Plus Verizon is gonna bloat it down sad day for me.

Too bad the Note "smokes" the Nexus. ;p

browser speeds are cool(if you're into that), but who uses stock browser anyway? Its all about, how well does it multitask? Handle 720P video playback? GPS lock? Does it get hot easily like HTC phones? Will the screen bother your eyes like the RAZR?..
And Ofcourse, FPS on Angry Birds? SIRI(IRIS) issues? ;P

I get 4000 in quadrant and the only thing in the graph on anttoto that is faster than my note is the transformer prime.
Also getting 1900 in sunspider on a big stock galaxy note. I think the note will kick even more as a when ICS is released in jan/feb.

zetsumeikuro said:
Browser mark is flaky at best. I've played with a Bionic and gotten like 93k then 98k with a RAZR. The scores fluctuate a lot. My concern is they said the phone stutters, the display is pixelated and the audio issues. Plus Verizon is gonna bloat it down sad day for me.
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Where did you hear the display on the Nexus is pixelated? Every review I've read highly praises the display, going as far to say it's one of the best, if not the best, displays out there. And Verizon's gonna "bloat it down"? Two apps, both required by Verizon so the phone can be used on their network. If that's "bloating it down", then yeah...dunno what to say.
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-BoneZ- said:
But while the G-NEX kicked but[sic] in the browser test it couldn’t compete with the iPhone in the graphics department.
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Well no Duh! Apple took a year old phone, slapped 2 pieces of upgraded hardware and sold it as new. The sad part is that its not faster in every department. If there gonna sell a year old phone as new, they better have the stats to support it.
The funny part is a Lot of Apple customers wont admit it, but they really want a bigger screen. So Apple can do either of 2 things, make the iPhone 5 with a 4.5inch screen in which case I will love to watch all the iSheep who said that they loved having a small phone squirm. Or keep it small to save face and make the iSheep suffer with the tiny ass screen.
I love watching how frequently Apple grasps for fallacious arguments just so they don't have to admit that they were wrong. Not a Humble corporation.

richmelchr said:
Well no Duh! Apple took a year old phone, slapped 2 pieces of upgraded hardware and sold it as new. The sad part is that its not faster in every department. If there gonna sell a year old phone as new, they better have the stats to support it.
The funny part is a Lot of Apple customers wont admit it, but they really want a bigger screen. So Apple can do either of 2 things, make the iPhone 5 with a 4.5inch screen in which case I will love to watch all the iSheep who said that they loved having a small phone squirm. Or keep it small to save face and make the iSheep suffer with the tiny ass screen.
I love watching how frequently Apple grasps for fallacious arguments just so they don't have to admit that they were wrong. Not a Humble corporation.
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What are you taking about? The 4S is a beast. It owns in the spec department. No denying that. And who says all the "iSheep" want small screens? Read more Apple forums - there are varying opinions. A big screen was one of the most wanted things for the 4S. Also, what do you mean "The sad part is that its not faster in every department."? Are you talking about whether the 4S was faster in every department than the 4? Cuz it is. EVERYTHING on the 4S is speedier than the 4, whether it's app loading, games, animations, browsing, even data speeds.
Get off your high-horse, and realize that the Nexus and iPhone 4S are basically head to head. No one is better than the other - it all depends on what you want. Both have very distinct and exclusive features that you can't replicate on the opposing handset. It comes down to what you need. Both are amazing.

Finally pushed the buy now button!

I've been lurking in this forum ever since I got my Nexus 7 and realized what a difference pure Google makes. I love Jellybean and Google Now and really wanted that experience on a phone. I was going back ad forth between the Galaxy S III (better camera) and the Nexus all month. T Mobile wants an insane price for an upgrade to the S III, the lowest price I could get was 229 if I waited until August 24th. I read some more and found out Google Wallet won't work, tethering would probably be blocked and many S III owners are unhappy. I hope I made the right choice.

You got in right on the money dude ....
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Well I'm always gonna get the dev phone (nexus) upgrades come first and easy to customize. If your not running a jb rom yet I recommend vicious jb for stock experience....looking for more customization take your pick. I have never thought of the gnex camera as bad, sure it only has 5 map instead of 8 but the camera quality to me is pretty good. Tc
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You made a good choice with this and the nexus 7 you will be in great shape, honastly I know other phones have better hardware but this phone is still great.
Don't forget to call T-Mobile once your out of contract to lower your bill
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I just upgraded to a used Galaxy Nexus from a Thunderbolt. Running Jellybean, this phone is amazing. Plus, I feel very confident I will get early updates with the Nexus versus the asinine support of the Thunderbolt. Welcome to the Gnex club!

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Way to go man!! I keep pressing the refresh button on my tracking number... it'll be here in the afternoon tomorrow!!!

CheyenneDonna said:
I've been lurking in this forum ever since I got my Nexus 7 and realized what a difference pure Google makes. I love Jellybean and Google Now and really wanted that experience on a phone. I was going back ad forth between the Galaxy S III (better camera) and the Nexus all month. T Mobile wants an insane price for an upgrade to the S III, the lowest price I could get was 229 if I waited until August 24th. I read some more and found out Google Wallet won't work, tethering would probably be blocked and many S III owners are unhappy. I hope I made the right choice.
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Wise decision. S3 is a nice camera. GNex is a nice cellphone.

Good choice. I had the same choice about 2 months back. It was between wait a week for the s3 to come out or get the galaxy nexus for a penny on amazon. Guess which one I went with :silly:

strumcat said:
Wise decision. S3 is a nice camera. GNex is a nice cellphone.
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Some months ago I had this question to myself: Galaxy SIII has a good camera and it seems that is a regular phone, since cm is on the way, what do I need? A regular cell with a good camera or an awesome phone with a regular camera? So I have a GN

Im saving for one but i have a minimum wage job so i dont know how long i'd have to wait

You made the right choice.
I was off contract with TMobile and waited for the HTCs to come out and they got the S .....
I then decided to wait for the SG3 and the TMobile price was just stupid.
Now I'm still with TMobile but on the $30 plan. Its great!

I got my phone already, 2 days after I ordered! This is officially the nicest phone I ever owned! None of my worries were reality, the screen is great, the camera is actually quite nice (much better than my MyTouch 4G) and I spent hours setting it up and installing my favorite apps before the battery complained. My only complaint is the volume - it's lower than I'd hoped for but all the pluses outweigh that. Thanks for all the encouragement; you all were right - it's a great phone!

You bought the GN over the GS3? 1. GS3 is light years ahead of the GN. And since it is a galaxy phone, it will get as much attention as the GN when it comes to CM. You are going to be running CM either way, right? 2. When the next Nexus is right around the corner!?

if it was the international version of the S3 vs the GNEX, i would pick the S3 on hardware advantage alone but the US version is neutered:
- dual core instead of quad (not a huge difference in real life but still sucks)
- 1gb ram vs 2gb
also, the display is not a significant upgrade over the GNEX since its the same 720p res on the pentile matrix. those things considered, the US S3 is not worth the price premium over the GNEX

I also got a Nexus about a week ago, upgrading from an HTC Desire... Mind blowing difference. Also, I would pick the Nexus over the SIII seven days a week - who would want physical + capacitive buttons?!
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norazi said:
if it was the international version of the S3 vs the GNEX, i would pick the S3 on hardware advantage alone but the US version is neutered:
- dual core instead of quad (not a huge difference in real life but still sucks)
- 1gb ram vs 2gb
also, the display is not a significant upgrade over the GNEX since its the same 720p res on the pentile matrix. those things considered, the US S3 is not worth the price premium over the GNEX
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Actually the US version has 2gb RAM, international has 1gb.
However I'll stick with nexus, I can actually get timely updates or flash pretty much any ROM I want and have everything working.
Now if the S3 was $350 brand new with factory warranty off contract it might of been a different story since I had never had a nexus device, but now I wouldn't trade it.
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grawkiller73 said:
You bought the GN over the GS3? 1. GS3 is light years ahead of the GN. And since it is a galaxy phone, it will get as much attention as the GN when it comes to CM. You are going to be running CM either way, right? 2. When the next Nexus is right around the corner!?
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My sister has the GS3 and compared to the Nexus I don't see much difference except hers runs ICS and probably will for months, she paid more over the long term and is locked into a two year contract, it looks cheap and it has a physical home button (which I hate). The next Nexus is right around the corner; but I'm a student with a budget and it probably will cost much more than $349. I had to decide on the most efficient, and cost efficient, choices for my tech needs this year. I chose a Google Chromebook, a Nexus 7 and the GNex phone. After the price drops I may sell my GNex and upgrade if it's affordable and worth it - but I will never buy another carrier locked phone.

Exactly, the next Nexus will not be $350. Plus will you be able to get it on the $30 TMobile plan?
I'm sure the SG3 is nice but I kinda like the low monthly bill and the GN is more than good enough for me.

CheyenneDonna said:
My sister has the GS3 and compared to the Nexus I don't see much difference except hers runs ICS and probably will for months, she paid more over the long term and is locked into a two year contract, it looks cheap and it has a physical home button (which I hate). The next Nexus is right around the corner; but I'm a student with a budget and it probably will cost much more than $349. I had to decide on the most efficient, and cost efficient, choices for my tech needs this year. I chose a Google Chromebook, a Nexus 7 and the GNex phone. After the price drops I may sell my GNex and upgrade if it's affordable and worth it - but I will never buy another carrier locked phone.
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You're absolutely going to love it. You couldn't have made a better choice. At $349 it's an incredible steal.

Impressions of the Optimus G (I switched from the Galaxy S3)

Okay, I've had the Optimus G (OG) for about a week now, and I can honestly say I enjoy it more than the GS3 I owned for a few months. I've lurked XDA a lot but figured I'd post this impressions thread in hopes of helping others out who are on the fence. I know I was definitely deciding between these 2 phones, and these kinds of posts really helped me.
Hardware and build quality are A LOT better. I've already had a few comments from strangers when they see me playing with my phone (case-less for now, eek).. asking "hey what phone is that?" or "that looks sleek"
It feels more premium in your hand and the sleek black with a touch of chrome makes it look a lot better than the cheap plastic of the GS3 in my opinion. The front/bezel is purely black (and by this, I mean when the screen's off, the entire front is pure black) and for whatever reason, it just looks sexy with the rest of the black phone. Also, it feels better in your hand... like you're holding something of quality.
Software-wise, I'll be honest I didn't go default with either phone. I love Nova Prime launcher for the gestures. (I set up double tap screen for opening camera, swipe down to bring up navigation is clutch when driving, amongst other gestures). I can say though, I've used the quickmemo A LOT more than I thought I would. It's nice to just pull it up to scribble down a quick note... I mean that's the only kind of notes that I take on my cell phone anyway. Then, you can store it in your picture gallery or your notepad app. I haven't used Qslide at all... especially because it doesn't work on YouTube and I don't watch movies on my cell phone.
Speaking of software, you will definitely notice how faster, quicker, and instant everything is on the OG. It's a snappy phone. I never thought the GS3 had lag, but after using the OG, you definitely notice it. I've tried to slow/lag it down... opening up navigation, youtube videos, browser, texting, etc at once and everything is just fluid. VERY impressed with the quad core snap dragon.
The screen is noticeably more vibrant. I'm never too picky on screens though.
I really don't have any gripes on the phone itself. My only concern is the lack of exposure it has. Not many cases or accessories if you're into that and not really that much buzz... considering everything this phone has inside.
Having said that, it kind of makes me feel like I have something special in my hands with this phone. It makes it more unique and luxurious... if that makes sense.
As long as it gets software support, I am extremely happy with my decision so far. The GS3 is popular, will have great product support, and lots of people have it... so it has that sense of community (as Apple does). But all of that stuff really doesn't mean much to me in owning a phone besides the product support.

After having this device for a couple of days i thought it was time to post my thoughts on it.
First off... build quality is amazing. Finally feels like I'm holding an expensive device. Was able to get a case for it at best buy the day i bought it. Put a zagg hd screen protector on it so my phone is protected. Sound quality is pretty good and the camera isn't bad once you change some settings.
Software is great too. Love the little things they did and love the layout. I too installed Nova Launcher after playing around with the stock one for a day. This phone is fast and cant wait for some aosp rom to come out or even better cyanogen mod (crossing fingers).
Gaming is amazing too. The Amazing Spiderman game from Gameloft runs with no lag whatsoever. 2Gbs of ram really help out and should be a standard on phones.
The screen is just awesome.
Battery life varies depending on what you are doing or what you use a phone for which is true for any device. I can easily go a full day and still have 50% percent left by turning off sync and data connection and only turning them on when i need to use them. When i play games the battery goes down fast too but im playing graphic intense games and usually am close to a charger when i do.
Playing movies looks awesome and the dolby mobile enhances the sound even more when headphones are used.
Overall this is my six android phone in three years and by far the best I've owned or touch (my wife has a galaxy s3 which i told her to get since she uses her phone as her primary camera). Def recommend it.
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What kind of settings did you change with the camera? I don't think it's all that bad, but am open to suggestions.
I have the default and the Camera Zoom FX app
Also, how do you take screenshots?

Take screenshots by using quickmemo. Just dont draw anything and hit the save icon. I'm not for sure what all i changed since i reset it to default. Just play around a bit you can reset camera to defaults in the camera settings
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I'm currently on the S3 and I've seen an RF sheet that shows the Optimus G has overall, the best signal strength out of any other device on Sprint. The issue is whether or not I can put up with the lack of development support. I know it's new and all but there's not much action as of yet. On the GS3, we had people upload ROMs before the phone was out!
Also - I just purchased a 32GB sd card that would be useless on the LG so I'm kind of at a stalemate. I'm just torn pretty much. I like the LG Optimus G's performance and UI (Samsung's stock UI is disgusting on Jellybean). Also the quad core would be nice. But I'm kind of a signal freak. I'm a big fan of s4gru and I literally drive to local towers on a week basis to check network vision progress lol. Biggest reason behind wanting an LG is the signal strength. In bestbuy, my phone had varied from -89-99dBm on EvDo while the LG Optimus held a steady -83-88dBm. This means the LG is more secure with holding onto a signal than the GS3 is and that is fact, according the to RF sheets provided by FCC documentation.
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(The higher the number, the better). The LG and Motorola Photon appear to be the best in terms of signal strength. Surprisingly, Samsung's GS3 is of the lowest!

I think if your on the fence about the microSD card. Consider this.
On my previous phone, I had a 64gb microsd card, which housed a large amount of my data-videos, ebooks, music, etc.
However, when I switched to this phone, and was transferring my data, I slowly realized that a lot of that data was useless. They were either books I previously read, songs that I didn't really listen to, so I then got a premium account on spotify, and videos that I should really just delete after I download.
All in all, I was capable of using only 10GB of my 32gb. And, I feel like I haven't missed a beat with storage. And this includes having a PSX emulator, Chrono trigger, and chaos rings on the device.
Also, the response time of apps opening is much faster when stored on main disk.
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Plus you have 50 gigs of air cloud too
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I came from GS3. So I also had 50gb Dropbox. And now with the OG I also have 50gb from box.Net
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T'was a holiday. Chill on the "lack of development".

MikeEx said:
T'was a holiday. Chill on the "lack of development".
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Also, it hasn't been that long till devs actually had source access+recovery. Can't develop and test very well without those. Or backup stuff...

MikeEx said:
T'was a holiday. Chill on the "lack of development".
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I've decided to stick it out with galaxy s3 mostly due to expandable battery and SD card slot. Still very tempting though lg!
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So far very impressed coming from 3d, still no root, navigation of screens is a little difficult, but sure when root and dev kicks in this will not be problem.
Big plus for me is battery and most importantly signal. Tried HTC LTE on launch and signal worse on 3d, this is by far the best signal I have had on Sprints crappy. Network in Arizona. Speed and performance amazing, though awesome on 3d with custom kernel and tweaks with antutu at 8000ish, higher now of course with no tweaks.
Want to wait for quad core HTC or maybe Samsung, but need change and BestBuy price last few days $100 decided to try. Thinking will be keeping, next week will determine.
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I'm liking mine very much so far. What do you mean "No Root yet", I've ben rooted for 4 or 5 days now atleast. Anyways it's a shame I have to keep his sexy sleek thing in a case just to keep me from going crazy thinking somethng will happen. I just hope they are willing to develop the software that'll push the 13mp lens to its fullest potential, far better than my Evo3D was but I see room for improvement still. Fast fast fast...just the way I like em, even without tweaks this thing is fast enough for me. Just with root alone I'm happy running my apps like WifiTether, don't need it any faster so I probaby won't run anything custom yet when it comes out. Overall very happy, was wanting an HTC quad core but not willing t wait till next spring so here I am with an LG-OG in my hands

HTC M8 Prime coming out? What do you think?

HTC M8 Prime coming out? What do you think?
Would you be upset since you just purchased the M8?

Bla.. Sell this one buy the new one. Should companies stop making phone and adhere to some useless timelines like make a phone every year or 2 years etc. There is a new snapdragon 805 coming, new phones with QHD displays coming out soon. It will be foolish of HTC or any other company to wait till next year to release a phone with the new soc, screens etc.
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Qualcomm's Snapdragon 805 is going to be insane that's for sure. But if the rumors are true about the screen being 5.5 inch, I definitely don't want one. I'm drawing the line at a 5 inch screen, and I'm going to pray to every god I can think of that they don't decide to make the standard any bigger lol.

Technology moves fast if you wait around you would never buy anything.
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I'll wait and see what it's got before I pull the trigger , but if it's got the same looks and size with an updated camera I'll be buying it
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Technology moves fast if you wait around you would never buy anything.
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omg you said that spot on!

When is a phone not a phone.
When it becomes a phablet. I think their is a fine line to what you can hold sensibly like a phone. Even if you have huge mitts.
I have large hands and this is my limit, size wise for a daily driver. Being able to fit in my pocket etc.
But second devices are always good

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When is a phone not a phone.
When it becomes a phablet.
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People have been saying this since the original Galaxy Note came out. At the time, most industry commenters expected the Note to fail spectacularly, but it, and its successors, were a massive commercial success.
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Whilst I have an M8, it isn't my primary phone - that's a Galaxy Note 3. So, my M8 is my secondary device!
I don't care if people say it's "too big" because for my purposes I don't find that to be the case at all - and I don't have overly large hands and find the Note 3 perfectly pocketable.
The point is that we all have different needs and requirements.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
People have been saying this since the original Galaxy Note came out. At the time, most industry commenters expected the Note to fail spectacularly, but it, and its successors, were a massive commercial success.
Whilst I have an M8, it isn't my primary phone - that's a Galaxy Note 3. So, my M8 is my secondary device!
I don't care if people say it's "too big" because for my purposes I don't find that to be the case at all - and I don't have overly large hands and find the Note 3 perfectly pocketable.
The point is that we all have different needs and requirements.
Regards,
Dave
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Each to their own.... I just find it funny when I see people raise something the size of a small child to their ears

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Each to their own.... I just find it funny when I see people raise something the size of a small child to their ears
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I'd hazard a guess then that you're significantly younger than me!
My first hand portable phone was a Nokia Orange: http://www.mobilephonehistory.co.uk/nokia/nokia_2140.php
It was over double the size (volumetrically) than my Note 3, and, obviously, a far less capable device with a lot lower battery life. It was also one of the first GSM (digital) devices, and as such much smaller than most of the analogue phones you could get back then.
My point is that it didn't really seem silly or unusual to have such a large device back then.
Given how much more capable modern phones are, I don't have a problem with the size, because, for me, the benefits of the large screen massively outweigh any disadvantages (of which there are surprisingly few). I'd happily add a few mm and grams to the Note 3 (and my M8 for that matter) to get an even bigger battery, but I digress!
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
I'd hazard a guess then that you're significantly younger than me!
Regards,
Dave
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Ok.... It's give me a clue time.
I was born before the Beatles came to fame.
Quite a few years before Armstrong stood on the moon....
Our house phone looked like this
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My TV looked like this
and our neighbours used to come in and sit and watch with us...
Technology spent years trying to 'downsize' their products and now all of a sudden it wants big and brash again. Incidentally, are we heading back to here? (My first mobile)
I have no problems with the bigger products. Like I said, it's just when people hold them to their ears.
Incidentally you young whippersnapper...who wins the age argument
Take care
Rob
P.S. Sorry for being Off topic OP - but it is kind of relevant

I dont think HTC will start selling a device just like their flagship but more powerful. They will aim an other market, and the 5.5 Inch rumor makes sense. I personally own the M8 and for my personal preferences thats the maximum size for a phone. There are people which are ok with their One MAX or Note 3. I just think this device will not be out to compete with the One M8

snowwhite007 said:
Technology moves fast if you wait around you would never buy anything.
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This is my philosophy as well.
There are only a few circumstances where waiting pays off.

foxmeister said:
I'd hazard a guess then that you're significantly younger than me!
My first hand portable phone was a Nokia Orange: http://www.mobilephonehistory.co.uk/nokia/nokia_2140.php
It was over double the size (volumetrically) than my Note 3, and, obviously, a far less capable device with a lot lower battery life. It was also one of the first GSM (digital) devices, and as such much smaller than most of the analogue phones you could get back then.
My point is that it didn't really seem silly or unusual to have such a large device back then.
Given how much more capable modern phones are, I don't have a problem with the size, because, for me, the benefits of the large screen massively outweigh any disadvantages (of which there are surprisingly few). I'd happily add a few mm and grams to the Note 3 (and my M8 for that matter) to get an even bigger battery, but I digress!
Regards,
Dave
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Good point. Actually, at those days we used to make a call with the phone in our hands. Today I have a bt-headset and a pebble, which let me keep my phone in the pocket unless I need to google or read mails. Then, of course, size matters!
BTW, my jeans pockets are the same size than those of 1994, so what?
We will soon see that even Apple steps away from their masters voice, which claimed "nobody needs a phone bigger that an iPhone".

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Couldn't have said ti better myself. Ther'es always something newer and better on the horizon. Either go bankrupt buying them all or just be happy with what you got until you're ready to upgrade.

If u already have the m8, what's the point? Its not like these phones can get faster...
Just change transition speeds to .5x and your phone will be on crack...bam...faster!
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Simer03 said:
If u already have the m8, what's the point? Its not like these phones can get faster...
Just change transition speeds to .5x and your phone will be on crack...bam...faster!
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wait, you get fast when you are on crack? damn! i do the opposite.
you must be special. :good:

Simer03 said:
If u already have the m8, what's the point? Its not like these phones can get faster...
Just change transition speeds to .5x and your phone will be on crack...bam...faster!
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the m8 is already on crack, the prime maybe on meth

exocetdj said:
the m8 is already on crack, the prime maybe on meth
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Yeah, I underclocked and undervolted my CPU, constantly uses power saving mode, and my M8 still handles all the multitasking and games flawlessly.
The thing is, smartphones are significantly over-powered nowadays. In terms of usage, the jump from S801 to S805 or anything faster would be far less necessary in at least a year.

The prime would probably just have better specs. No point in it since I end up underclocking my CPU to 1.8GHz and only using 3 cores lol. Still don't see any lag.