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Droid life article on Gnex what is your opinion

I have to admit I have been a bit miffed at what Verizon has done with the Galaxy Nexus. I think it is a great phone but I think Verizon has stripped allot of what was special about being a nexus from the phone.
Apparently someone from Droid Life feels the same way. Here is their article on Verizon and the GNex
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/30/verizon-needs-google-opinion/
What are your thoughts?

This person is also wrong.. they complain about google wallet not being included but it isn't included on the GSM nexus.. it isn't part of AOSP. Also.. the only differences between Verizon and GSM include two semi useful apps that you can remove, a battery cover without Google, and no free tethering. It's not even a big deal.. most of the comments on that article bash the author anyways because he doesn't appear to know anything.
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I still think the Galaxy Nexus is the best phone out there. It just seems like it is becoming less of what I thought a Nexus was. Maybe I had the wrong impression of what a Nexus was in the first place. I am no dev, I've just had the feeling it is headed in the wrong direction... slowly

Best phone I have owned.
Compared with the htc hero , desire HD , iPhone 4 , htc sensation and log optinus 3d I have owned.
+ points :
Screen , amazing simply. Colours are bright and vibrant , text and outlines are crisp. Can really tell a difference over the other phones.
Speed. No lagg what so ever , plays gta 3 perfectly whilst listening to music . Can have a little slowness if I am using a heavy live wallpaper.
Honeycomb inspired apps are fantastic. I own a Motorola Xoom which I have been totally impressed with , the music app especially are brilliant , as well as icons and multi task bars. Having it ported over to my mobile has blown my mind.
Battery life : there has been a fair few complaints but as I posted in a battery thread mine will last a day with heavy usage (will include screen shot at the end)
Quality , granted its plastic but it feels like a premium product. Doesn't have the look of the iPhone 4 but the full glass front , no button set up gives the phone a real sleek look. Back plate is flimsy but once its on it feels well built.
Camera: decent picture quality , zero shutter lagg is great . Haven't taken that many photos so I won't comment to much.
Connectivity , GPS and Bluetooth have all worked seamlessly as expected.
Only downsides :
Apps: some are still incompatible which is annoying , its new software so I wouldn't really count this as a issue as it will be fixed.
That's it really , bought this sim free for £529.99. Was unsure and really hoped I wouldn't be disappointed after I had spent that kind of money. I am happy to report that it is the best tech purchase I have made. Well done Samsung & Google , thoroughly impressed
J
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that reporter from droid life needs to crawl out from under the rock...he is clueless!

The biggest compromise, imho, had nothing to do with Verizon, but was made by Google to Texas Instruments: the TI OMAP processor. The Samsung-made Exynos processor from the SGS2 is widely viewed as the best smartphone processor on the market, so why did Google force Samsung to compromise with the TI OMAP? Nothing against Texas Instruments (they have great products, by most accounts), but Google should have let Samsung make this phone with its own chips imho.
Yes, I definitely despise Verizon's treating of this phone as the ugly stepchild of its Android lineup (like they also did with the Fascinate), but, hey, we still have a top-shelf Samsung product on a reliable network, and with (not so reliable, but still better than HSPA) LTE to boot. Plus, it seems to me that Verizon's handling of the Gnex (and the Fascinate) is more a knock against Samsung than Google...
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skynet11 said:
The biggest compromise, imho, had nothing to do with Verizon, but was made by Google to Texas Instruments: the TI OMAP processor. The Samsung-made Exynos processor from the SGS2 is widely viewed as the best smartphone processor on the market, so why did Google force Samsung to compromise with the TI OMAP? Nothing against Texas Instruments (they have great products, by most accounts). Yes, I definitely despise Verizon's treating of this phone as the ugly stepchild of its Android lineup (like they also did with the Fascinate), but, hey, we still have a top-shelf Samsung product on a reliable network, and with (not so reliable, but still better than HSPA) LTE to boot.
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Lte is part of the reason. Exynos doesnt play nice with lte. Yet at least. And ti offers a better chipset overall than exynos mish mash of components.
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@rbiter said:
Lte is part of the reason. Exynos doesnt play nice with lte. Yet at least. And ti offers a better chipset overall than exynos mish mash of components.
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Hmmm... I learn something new every day... Thanks for pointing that out about the LTE issue Hey, maybe Samsung will have that matter resolved by the time they release the *cough cough* Continuum 2
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droidstyle said:
that reporter from droid life needs to crawl out from under the rock...he is clueless!
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Go back to covering cough cough Motorola phones, Droid Life
He is right about one thing, though... the U.S. carriers are given way too much leverage over manufacturers (on the other hand, good luck with getting that subsidized upgrade overseas ).
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Whiney article is whiney.
Maybe he should stick to teh iphonez wit da bigger gb's.

Is Verizon and the Nexus good enough to leave Sprint and my Epic 4G Touch ?
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skynet11 said:
(on the other hand, good luck with getting that subsidized upgrade overseas ).
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What do you mean by that? Subsidies in Europe are way better than the US lol. They often 100% subsidize the phone (even top-tier devices) for only a 2-year contract, and the service still costs 1/2 of what we pay in the US. AND the non-contract options are still amazing.
Don't kid yourself. We have it worse in every way here.
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Zorachus said:
Is Verizon and the Nexus good enough to leave Sprint and my Epic 4G Touch ?
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Been discussed everywhere. That's your personal call man. There are A LOT of factors, and its not worth trying to de-rail this thread to get an answer...

martonikaj said:
What do you mean by that? Subsidies in Europe are way better than the US lol. They often 100% subsidize the phone (even top-tier devices) for only a 2-year contract, and the service still costs 1/2 of what we pay in the US. AND the non-contract options are still amazing.
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Hmmm... I didn't know that... I had read before that most European carriers didn't subsidize... Two derps in a row for me today
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@rbiter said:
Lte is part of the reason. Exynos doesnt play nice with lte. Yet at least. And ti offers a better chipset overall than exynos mish mash of components.
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Exactly, that's why the T-Mobile Galaxy SII, came with a different processor, to allow their crazy 40+MB/sec modem. The Exynos wouldn't do that.
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Oops... bad post...

i may get another phone...

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/03/18/htc-one-x-for-sprint-details-surface-rumored-to-be-codenamed-jet-and-possibly-arriving-in-june/
THIS looks tasty and i live in pittsburgh so lte should be soon.

Doesn't look too bad. Curious how much it's going to weigh.
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Heyyy another Pittsburgher lol. You are correct, we were relatively early in the wimax roll out, so I expect a similar timeline for LTE.
I'm waiting for S3 confirmation though, I'm pretty loyal to Samsung.
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Nice Phone ...But Im waitin on the Quad Cores and I had HTC for a long time but I think Im gonna stick with Sammy...Time will tell...

ill prbly have both the s3 and 1x also you do realize this is a dualcore a15 not an a9 and the lte chip is built in so MUCH better battery life. This is a Krait http://www.anandtech.com/show/4170/qualcomms-announces-krait-cpu-the-successor-to-scorpion
it is one bad piece of silicon.
Also with its upgraded graphics it may not be as fast as the exy gen 2 but seeing as how it will be a much more common chip for both at&t sprint and prbly verizon this will make for much faster rom development between the 3 as only the modem should be different.

Nice I've never owned an HTC but I have always liked them, this phone looks sweet!

HTC has one big problem. Some of their drivers have been abysmal in the past.
They put together nice hardware, always. Then they don't use its features. Like gpu acceleration.
I've always owned htc devices since original HTC Touch. Epic Touch was my first Sammy device. And it's like night and day in terms of how snappy it is, compared to say - evo 3d (which I still own, and just used it for about 3 weeks when my old epic touch was in repair.)
Even those T-mob gs2 are apparently much snappier than anything HTC put out with the same scorpion chipset - Sammy just know to properly optimize drivers and deliver the full power of the hardware.

Looks like a nice device but I think I will be sticking with my epic touch for a while.

nabbed you also cant forget sense was not gpu aceled thats part of it. even if they had good drivers. it wouldnt of made a diff

Ewww no best option is
Gnex > SGS3 > The next Nexus > SGS4
^ See the cycle ._.

iSaint said:
Ewww no best option is
Gnex > SGS3 > The next Nexus > SGS4
^ See the cycle ._.
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GN is a downgrade compared to Epic touch - slower gpu and lower res camera.
This design decision by Google has always baffled me - let's make our brand new flagship phone slower than the 10 months old phone by the same manufacturer.

Just wanted to chime in.
1. Quad Core is not actually always better. The phone OS is not optimized for it yet. So, you are really running a 4 cylinder engine on 2. Plus, the current quad cores use the previous generations technology. I read an article that said the new s4 processors are 40 percent more powerful per core over the tegra 3. So, this dual core is faster and more advanced than the tegra 3.
Another way to look at it is the 4 banger in my AUDI is faster than the V6 in your Taurus.
2. The new phone doesn't look anything like the one in the pic. That is a One X. Sprint is not getting the ONE X.

nabbed said:
GN is a downgrade compared to Epic touch - slower gpu and lower res camera.
This design decision by Google has always baffled me - let's make our brand new flagship phone slower than the 10 months old phone by the same manufacturer.
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Like the Post above me explains google chooses hardware that best fits and utilizes their software ...
Why do you think the iPhone has ****ty specs but is still one of (if not the best) smartphone on the market ?

iSaint said:
Like the Post above me explains google chooses hardware that best fits and utilizes their software ...
Why do you think the iPhone has ****ty specs but is still one of (if not the best) smartphone on the market ?
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Using lower spec hardware is better? You now assemble hardware to fit the software?
"Oh yeah, this 5mp camera is much hotter than that cranky old 8mp camera!
Oh wait, the image quality is worse? But you see, the lower the megapixel count, the faster it snaps."
Iphone has bad hardware but is one of the best, if not the best, phones?
Man, it's like you take logic and fact, then turn it all upside down.

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.. Hardware isn't everything...

Another pittsburgher here, I am going to wait for the s3 also. The one x looks great but the s3 will probably be alot more optimized. I just hope they put out the white one at launch instead of waiting a month or two after launch.
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nabbed said:
Using lower spec hardware is better? You now assemble hardware to fit the software?
"Oh yeah, this 5mp camera is much hotter than that cranky old 8mp camera!
Oh wait, the image quality is worse? But you see, the lower the megapixel count, the faster it snaps."
Iphone has bad hardware but is one of the best, if not the best, phones?
Man, it's like you take logic and fact, then turn it all upside down.
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the iPhone has really good hardware. Besides that point, the primary reason iOS performs so well (besides the steller hardware) is that that iOS does more RealTime prioritizing. It essentially gives the current task top priority, which is why iOS can't do real multi tasking, they suspend apps and then resume them as needed (Android does this too, albeit slightly different - onPause onResume, etc).
So the combination of the iPhone's good hardware with high prio. for the foreground tasks is why their OS is super snappy (this could be called great design, and they definitely utilize their hardware to the max for rendering effects and what not)
It has nothing to do with Objective-C vs Java either, as some people think. Ever since the dalvik VM has adopted JIT, the performance differences between the languages is minimal

nabbed said:
Using lower spec hardware is better? You now assemble hardware to fit the software?
"Oh yeah, this 5mp camera is much hotter than that cranky old 8mp camera!
Oh wait, the image quality is worse? But you see, the lower the megapixel count, the faster it snaps."
Iphone has bad hardware but is one of the best, if not the best, phones?
Man, it's like you take logic and fact, then turn it all upside down.
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i hate to break it to you but megapixels doesnt equal image quality, my nexus s 4g blows the water out of my photons 8mp camera. samsung makes really decent cameras. same goes for teh iphone, it has hands down one of the BEST image sensors in the market for phones.
so even though the iphone 4's camera is 5MP's i would honestly stack it up against almost any android phone currently out in terms of picture quality. now if your looking for bigger images then yea grab that 8mp camera.
the reason why apple doesnt need to have the best hardware out there every 6 months is because they only have at most 6 (current gen iphone, ipad and itouch plus previous gen) platforms to write iOS for, and they do a VERY good job of optimizing the code for em all. companies like samsung or htc have a crapload of devices flooding the market each one more different than the last thus making it hard to make sure ics runs amazingly great on one platform and then starting the next. despite having older hardware and crappy features (IMO) the iphone isnt still around because its a social thing, there is actually some benefits.
P.S. i would like to state that i am a former iphone 3g owner, and i will never go back to that crap, if android collapses ill go wp7 before ios again

No thanks. I like seeing my phone screen in the day time

Im sold if the bootloader is unlocked and it comes in black.

Impressions of the Optimus G (I switched from the Galaxy S3)

Okay, I've had the Optimus G (OG) for about a week now, and I can honestly say I enjoy it more than the GS3 I owned for a few months. I've lurked XDA a lot but figured I'd post this impressions thread in hopes of helping others out who are on the fence. I know I was definitely deciding between these 2 phones, and these kinds of posts really helped me.
Hardware and build quality are A LOT better. I've already had a few comments from strangers when they see me playing with my phone (case-less for now, eek).. asking "hey what phone is that?" or "that looks sleek"
It feels more premium in your hand and the sleek black with a touch of chrome makes it look a lot better than the cheap plastic of the GS3 in my opinion. The front/bezel is purely black (and by this, I mean when the screen's off, the entire front is pure black) and for whatever reason, it just looks sexy with the rest of the black phone. Also, it feels better in your hand... like you're holding something of quality.
Software-wise, I'll be honest I didn't go default with either phone. I love Nova Prime launcher for the gestures. (I set up double tap screen for opening camera, swipe down to bring up navigation is clutch when driving, amongst other gestures). I can say though, I've used the quickmemo A LOT more than I thought I would. It's nice to just pull it up to scribble down a quick note... I mean that's the only kind of notes that I take on my cell phone anyway. Then, you can store it in your picture gallery or your notepad app. I haven't used Qslide at all... especially because it doesn't work on YouTube and I don't watch movies on my cell phone.
Speaking of software, you will definitely notice how faster, quicker, and instant everything is on the OG. It's a snappy phone. I never thought the GS3 had lag, but after using the OG, you definitely notice it. I've tried to slow/lag it down... opening up navigation, youtube videos, browser, texting, etc at once and everything is just fluid. VERY impressed with the quad core snap dragon.
The screen is noticeably more vibrant. I'm never too picky on screens though.
I really don't have any gripes on the phone itself. My only concern is the lack of exposure it has. Not many cases or accessories if you're into that and not really that much buzz... considering everything this phone has inside.
Having said that, it kind of makes me feel like I have something special in my hands with this phone. It makes it more unique and luxurious... if that makes sense.
As long as it gets software support, I am extremely happy with my decision so far. The GS3 is popular, will have great product support, and lots of people have it... so it has that sense of community (as Apple does). But all of that stuff really doesn't mean much to me in owning a phone besides the product support.

After having this device for a couple of days i thought it was time to post my thoughts on it.
First off... build quality is amazing. Finally feels like I'm holding an expensive device. Was able to get a case for it at best buy the day i bought it. Put a zagg hd screen protector on it so my phone is protected. Sound quality is pretty good and the camera isn't bad once you change some settings.
Software is great too. Love the little things they did and love the layout. I too installed Nova Launcher after playing around with the stock one for a day. This phone is fast and cant wait for some aosp rom to come out or even better cyanogen mod (crossing fingers).
Gaming is amazing too. The Amazing Spiderman game from Gameloft runs with no lag whatsoever. 2Gbs of ram really help out and should be a standard on phones.
The screen is just awesome.
Battery life varies depending on what you are doing or what you use a phone for which is true for any device. I can easily go a full day and still have 50% percent left by turning off sync and data connection and only turning them on when i need to use them. When i play games the battery goes down fast too but im playing graphic intense games and usually am close to a charger when i do.
Playing movies looks awesome and the dolby mobile enhances the sound even more when headphones are used.
Overall this is my six android phone in three years and by far the best I've owned or touch (my wife has a galaxy s3 which i told her to get since she uses her phone as her primary camera). Def recommend it.
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What kind of settings did you change with the camera? I don't think it's all that bad, but am open to suggestions.
I have the default and the Camera Zoom FX app
Also, how do you take screenshots?

Take screenshots by using quickmemo. Just dont draw anything and hit the save icon. I'm not for sure what all i changed since i reset it to default. Just play around a bit you can reset camera to defaults in the camera settings
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I'm currently on the S3 and I've seen an RF sheet that shows the Optimus G has overall, the best signal strength out of any other device on Sprint. The issue is whether or not I can put up with the lack of development support. I know it's new and all but there's not much action as of yet. On the GS3, we had people upload ROMs before the phone was out!
Also - I just purchased a 32GB sd card that would be useless on the LG so I'm kind of at a stalemate. I'm just torn pretty much. I like the LG Optimus G's performance and UI (Samsung's stock UI is disgusting on Jellybean). Also the quad core would be nice. But I'm kind of a signal freak. I'm a big fan of s4gru and I literally drive to local towers on a week basis to check network vision progress lol. Biggest reason behind wanting an LG is the signal strength. In bestbuy, my phone had varied from -89-99dBm on EvDo while the LG Optimus held a steady -83-88dBm. This means the LG is more secure with holding onto a signal than the GS3 is and that is fact, according the to RF sheets provided by FCC documentation.
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(The higher the number, the better). The LG and Motorola Photon appear to be the best in terms of signal strength. Surprisingly, Samsung's GS3 is of the lowest!

I think if your on the fence about the microSD card. Consider this.
On my previous phone, I had a 64gb microsd card, which housed a large amount of my data-videos, ebooks, music, etc.
However, when I switched to this phone, and was transferring my data, I slowly realized that a lot of that data was useless. They were either books I previously read, songs that I didn't really listen to, so I then got a premium account on spotify, and videos that I should really just delete after I download.
All in all, I was capable of using only 10GB of my 32gb. And, I feel like I haven't missed a beat with storage. And this includes having a PSX emulator, Chrono trigger, and chaos rings on the device.
Also, the response time of apps opening is much faster when stored on main disk.
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Plus you have 50 gigs of air cloud too
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I came from GS3. So I also had 50gb Dropbox. And now with the OG I also have 50gb from box.Net
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T'was a holiday. Chill on the "lack of development".

MikeEx said:
T'was a holiday. Chill on the "lack of development".
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MikeEx said:
T'was a holiday. Chill on the "lack of development".
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I've decided to stick it out with galaxy s3 mostly due to expandable battery and SD card slot. Still very tempting though lg!
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So far very impressed coming from 3d, still no root, navigation of screens is a little difficult, but sure when root and dev kicks in this will not be problem.
Big plus for me is battery and most importantly signal. Tried HTC LTE on launch and signal worse on 3d, this is by far the best signal I have had on Sprints crappy. Network in Arizona. Speed and performance amazing, though awesome on 3d with custom kernel and tweaks with antutu at 8000ish, higher now of course with no tweaks.
Want to wait for quad core HTC or maybe Samsung, but need change and BestBuy price last few days $100 decided to try. Thinking will be keeping, next week will determine.
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I'm liking mine very much so far. What do you mean "No Root yet", I've ben rooted for 4 or 5 days now atleast. Anyways it's a shame I have to keep his sexy sleek thing in a case just to keep me from going crazy thinking somethng will happen. I just hope they are willing to develop the software that'll push the 13mp lens to its fullest potential, far better than my Evo3D was but I see room for improvement still. Fast fast fast...just the way I like em, even without tweaks this thing is fast enough for me. Just with root alone I'm happy running my apps like WifiTether, don't need it any faster so I probaby won't run anything custom yet when it comes out. Overall very happy, was wanting an HTC quad core but not willing t wait till next spring so here I am with an LG-OG in my hands

HTC M8 Prime coming out? What do you think?

HTC M8 Prime coming out? What do you think?
Would you be upset since you just purchased the M8?

Bla.. Sell this one buy the new one. Should companies stop making phone and adhere to some useless timelines like make a phone every year or 2 years etc. There is a new snapdragon 805 coming, new phones with QHD displays coming out soon. It will be foolish of HTC or any other company to wait till next year to release a phone with the new soc, screens etc.
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Qualcomm's Snapdragon 805 is going to be insane that's for sure. But if the rumors are true about the screen being 5.5 inch, I definitely don't want one. I'm drawing the line at a 5 inch screen, and I'm going to pray to every god I can think of that they don't decide to make the standard any bigger lol.

Technology moves fast if you wait around you would never buy anything.
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I'll wait and see what it's got before I pull the trigger , but if it's got the same looks and size with an updated camera I'll be buying it
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Technology moves fast if you wait around you would never buy anything.
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omg you said that spot on!

When is a phone not a phone.
When it becomes a phablet. I think their is a fine line to what you can hold sensibly like a phone. Even if you have huge mitts.
I have large hands and this is my limit, size wise for a daily driver. Being able to fit in my pocket etc.
But second devices are always good

grentuu said:
When is a phone not a phone.
When it becomes a phablet.
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People have been saying this since the original Galaxy Note came out. At the time, most industry commenters expected the Note to fail spectacularly, but it, and its successors, were a massive commercial success.
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Whilst I have an M8, it isn't my primary phone - that's a Galaxy Note 3. So, my M8 is my secondary device!
I don't care if people say it's "too big" because for my purposes I don't find that to be the case at all - and I don't have overly large hands and find the Note 3 perfectly pocketable.
The point is that we all have different needs and requirements.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
People have been saying this since the original Galaxy Note came out. At the time, most industry commenters expected the Note to fail spectacularly, but it, and its successors, were a massive commercial success.
Whilst I have an M8, it isn't my primary phone - that's a Galaxy Note 3. So, my M8 is my secondary device!
I don't care if people say it's "too big" because for my purposes I don't find that to be the case at all - and I don't have overly large hands and find the Note 3 perfectly pocketable.
The point is that we all have different needs and requirements.
Regards,
Dave
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Each to their own.... I just find it funny when I see people raise something the size of a small child to their ears

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Each to their own.... I just find it funny when I see people raise something the size of a small child to their ears
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I'd hazard a guess then that you're significantly younger than me!
My first hand portable phone was a Nokia Orange: http://www.mobilephonehistory.co.uk/nokia/nokia_2140.php
It was over double the size (volumetrically) than my Note 3, and, obviously, a far less capable device with a lot lower battery life. It was also one of the first GSM (digital) devices, and as such much smaller than most of the analogue phones you could get back then.
My point is that it didn't really seem silly or unusual to have such a large device back then.
Given how much more capable modern phones are, I don't have a problem with the size, because, for me, the benefits of the large screen massively outweigh any disadvantages (of which there are surprisingly few). I'd happily add a few mm and grams to the Note 3 (and my M8 for that matter) to get an even bigger battery, but I digress!
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
I'd hazard a guess then that you're significantly younger than me!
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Ok.... It's give me a clue time.
I was born before the Beatles came to fame.
Quite a few years before Armstrong stood on the moon....
Our house phone looked like this
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My TV looked like this
and our neighbours used to come in and sit and watch with us...
Technology spent years trying to 'downsize' their products and now all of a sudden it wants big and brash again. Incidentally, are we heading back to here? (My first mobile)
I have no problems with the bigger products. Like I said, it's just when people hold them to their ears.
Incidentally you young whippersnapper...who wins the age argument
Take care
Rob
P.S. Sorry for being Off topic OP - but it is kind of relevant

I dont think HTC will start selling a device just like their flagship but more powerful. They will aim an other market, and the 5.5 Inch rumor makes sense. I personally own the M8 and for my personal preferences thats the maximum size for a phone. There are people which are ok with their One MAX or Note 3. I just think this device will not be out to compete with the One M8

snowwhite007 said:
Technology moves fast if you wait around you would never buy anything.
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This is my philosophy as well.
There are only a few circumstances where waiting pays off.

foxmeister said:
I'd hazard a guess then that you're significantly younger than me!
My first hand portable phone was a Nokia Orange: http://www.mobilephonehistory.co.uk/nokia/nokia_2140.php
It was over double the size (volumetrically) than my Note 3, and, obviously, a far less capable device with a lot lower battery life. It was also one of the first GSM (digital) devices, and as such much smaller than most of the analogue phones you could get back then.
My point is that it didn't really seem silly or unusual to have such a large device back then.
Given how much more capable modern phones are, I don't have a problem with the size, because, for me, the benefits of the large screen massively outweigh any disadvantages (of which there are surprisingly few). I'd happily add a few mm and grams to the Note 3 (and my M8 for that matter) to get an even bigger battery, but I digress!
Regards,
Dave
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Good point. Actually, at those days we used to make a call with the phone in our hands. Today I have a bt-headset and a pebble, which let me keep my phone in the pocket unless I need to google or read mails. Then, of course, size matters!
BTW, my jeans pockets are the same size than those of 1994, so what?
We will soon see that even Apple steps away from their masters voice, which claimed "nobody needs a phone bigger that an iPhone".

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Technology moves fast if you wait around you would never buy anything.
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Couldn't have said ti better myself. Ther'es always something newer and better on the horizon. Either go bankrupt buying them all or just be happy with what you got until you're ready to upgrade.

If u already have the m8, what's the point? Its not like these phones can get faster...
Just change transition speeds to .5x and your phone will be on crack...bam...faster!
Sent from my HTC M8

Simer03 said:
If u already have the m8, what's the point? Its not like these phones can get faster...
Just change transition speeds to .5x and your phone will be on crack...bam...faster!
Sent from my HTC M8
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wait, you get fast when you are on crack? damn! i do the opposite.
you must be special. :good:

Simer03 said:
If u already have the m8, what's the point? Its not like these phones can get faster...
Just change transition speeds to .5x and your phone will be on crack...bam...faster!
Sent from my HTC M8
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the m8 is already on crack, the prime maybe on meth

exocetdj said:
the m8 is already on crack, the prime maybe on meth
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Yeah, I underclocked and undervolted my CPU, constantly uses power saving mode, and my M8 still handles all the multitasking and games flawlessly.
The thing is, smartphones are significantly over-powered nowadays. In terms of usage, the jump from S801 to S805 or anything faster would be far less necessary in at least a year.

The prime would probably just have better specs. No point in it since I end up underclocking my CPU to 1.8GHz and only using 3 cores lol. Still don't see any lag.

Galaxy Note 7 Performance Issues

I purchased the Note 7 and upgraded from my Note 4, I didn't care for the 5 and opted to keep my 4 until the next model was released. I'm experiencing a lot of lag and very slow moving and loading of apps as well as internet both on the Sprint Network as well as on wifi. Is anyone else experiencing these issues and do we know if this is expected to be corrected? I'm seriously considering going back to my Note 4 within the allotted time if this is not immediately corrected. It's significant. As much as I love the look and feel, the issues are truly bad enough to warrant action. For the price, I certainly expect better.

No, it is unbelievably fast for me. Way faster than the Note 5. WiFi speeds are iffy but that's Comcast... They just suck with mobile devices. All my phones have been bad with Xfinity.
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also experiencing the same issues. That's just the way Samsung is

What firmware are you on?

No issues whatsoever. Phone is snappy and blazing fast.

I'm not running xfinity internet, att here. It runs fatter than our Comcast/xfinity account. I have never had any phone run as slow as this one. Every time I try to open a web page it lags. Pictures aren't loading and getting blank Pages. Not sure what is going on to be honest. I'm trying to figure out if I have a bad phone or if it's a problem beyond my phone. My Note 4 was way faster running on the same networks.

What do you mean about that's just the way samsung is? I'm not being snarky, I'm truly asking. My Note 4 wasn't like this or my Galaxy S models.

I had those issues before the next day update.

I also came from the Note 4, no issues for me with the 7. Been better in every way for me, from speed to battery.
I not buying thats just the way Samsung is.

PsiPhiDan said:
No, it is unbelievably fast for me. Way faster than the Note 5. WiFi speeds are iffy but that's Comcast... They just suck with mobile devices. All my phones have been bad with Xfinity.
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Lol I can attest to this

Those saying the phone is unbelievably fast are either LIARS or don't know what a fast phone feels like. My 6P flies compared to this joke of a flagship.
With the Note7 Samsung still delivers embarassing real world performance

been laggy sometimes, last night was bad phone felt very hot and everything was laggyu, keyboard presses seemed off too. Was kinda hating the phone. Better tonight, I think im just experiencing throttling from heat and/or low batteyr..
I have a AT$T Note 7. Overall not as smooth as my nexus 6p
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LaNsLyDe said:
been laggy sometimes, last night was bad phone felt very hot and everything was laggyu, keyboard presses seemed off too. Was kinda hating the phone. Better tonight, I think im just experiencing throttling from heat and/or low batteyr..
I have a AT$T Note 7. Overall not as smooth as my nexus 6p,
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EDIT: G5 or Huawei p9 either

It is fast. Im on the bph6 firmware, it is extremely fast. I would say faster than Note 5.

Nitemare3219 said:
Those saying the phone is unbelievably fast are either LIARS or don't know what a fast phone feels like. My 6P flies compared to this joke of a flagship.
With the Note7 Samsung still delivers embarassing real world performance
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Of cause they just paid almost a $1000 for it. It'd be an insult to their intelligence to have paid top dollars for a phone while its performance is still running behind comparing to last year's models.

Allison Suderski said:
I purchased the Note 7 and upgraded from my Note 4, I didn't care for the 5 and opted to keep my 4 until the next model was released. I'm experiencing a lot of lag and very slow moving and loading of apps as well as internet both on the Sprint Network as well as on wifi. Is anyone else experiencing these issues and do we know if this is expected to be corrected? I'm seriously considering going back to my Note 4 within the allotted time if this is not immediately corrected. It's significant. As much as I love the look and feel, the issues are truly bad enough to warrant action. For the price, I certainly expect better.
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Go into SETTINGS > DEVICE MAINTENANCE > BATTERY & tap on the 3-Dot menu icon in the upper R/H corner.
Tap on OPTIMIZE BATTERY USAGE & then tap on APPS NOT OPTIMIZED,you'll see ALL APPS in the drop down list.
Tap on that to select ALL APPS & de-select for any apps where you've experienced performance issues.
Also,I strongly urge you to get the app Package Disabler Pro (or Pro +) to disable unused apps/bloatware:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpremium&hl=en
Might wanna try a 3rd party launcher as well.
I use Apex Launcher Pro,but,lots to choose from & it's a safe bet most are smoother than the stock launcher.

Mine does this sometimes I just reset and it's good again figure a update will fix it soon

Allison Suderski said:
I purchased the Note 7 and upgraded from my Note 4, I didn't care for the 5 and opted to keep my 4 until the next model was released. I'm experiencing a lot of lag and very slow moving and loading of apps as well as internet both on the Sprint Network as well as on wifi. Is anyone else experiencing these issues and do we know if this is expected to be corrected? I'm seriously considering going back to my Note 4 within the allotted time if this is not immediately corrected. It's significant. As much as I love the look and feel, the issues are truly bad enough to warrant action. For the price, I certainly expect better.
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Hi. Take your device back for an exchange. I can assure you your mobile is not performing as the vast majority of others Note 7's are. Lot of Samsung haters on this forum and that's a shame. You appear to be genuine with a genuine problem so return your mobile and get either a refund or a new mobile, no way should you be experiencing such behaviour from the Note 7. For once Samsung appears to be getting its act together and has been since the release of the Galaxy 6 series.
I have owned an awful lot of mobiles going back to the late 80's, in fact hundreds, and Samsung got to the point with the Note 3 with its plastic metal and plastic leather that I changed to Sony and the Xperia range, superb mobiles. When the Galaxy 6 came out I changed again and have found Samsung to be getting better and better with every generation especially that awful UI of the past.
Of course with ALL such products there will be lemons and you may have drawn the short straw on this occasion however I can but reiterate that you return the unit for an exchange. Please remember most posters on this and every other forum only post about problems. Some just troll and others just post in a puerile fashion just to knock the product.
You MUST return your mobile and have your problems resolved to your satisfaction. Please let us know how you get on. Don't give up on the Note 7 its a superb mobile, arguably one of the best ever produced, and I have yet to read a negative 'professional review'.
I am sorry to learn you are having these problems.
Kind regards, Ryland
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Nitemare3219 said:
Those saying the phone is unbelievably fast are either LIARS or don't know what a fast phone feels like. My 6P flies compared to this joke of a flagship.
With the Note7 Samsung still delivers embarassing real world performance
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I am pleased you are enjoying whatever mobile you own. Just out of interest why are you posting on a Samsung forum when you don't own one and don't like them? I have owned every brand of mobile there is and some you have never heard of nor seen. Some I liked and some I didn't, one thing for sure is that I have never posted on a forum just to slate a brand when I didn't own that mobile, got way better things to do with my time.
What you write about the Note 7 flies in the face of every review I have read plus my own vast experience.
The Note 7 is among a handful of uber smart phones that can justify the title of being a true flagship mobile and a mobile both Samsung and its owners can be proud of. You should purchase one and experience the mobile for yourself.
Ryland

Nitemare3219 said:
Those saying the phone is unbelievably fast are either LIARS or don't know what a fast phone feels like. My 6P flies compared to this joke of a flagship.
With the Note7 Samsung still delivers embarassing real world performance
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Hope you read the article properly that you posted the link to? Calling people liars? It specifically states it's based on the qualcomm 820 snapdragon in US.
Most ppl that have an Exynos model are saying exactly the opposite. I've got an sm-n930f and the thing flies!

Is it ok to force GPU in dev options? It seems to make things snappier.
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Nitemare3219 said:
Those saying the phone is unbelievably fast are either LIARS or don't know what a fast phone feels like. My 6P flies compared to this joke of a flagship.
With the Note7 Samsung still delivers embarassing real world performance
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Just for the record, my Note 7 performs better than my Nexus 6 did.
At least it doesn't take 30 seconds to open the camera, 10 seconds to open WhatsApp, and miss phone calls because the screen doesn't respond to my swipe to answer.