http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/03/18/htc-one-x-for-sprint-details-surface-rumored-to-be-codenamed-jet-and-possibly-arriving-in-june/
THIS looks tasty and i live in pittsburgh so lte should be soon.
Doesn't look too bad. Curious how much it's going to weigh.
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Heyyy another Pittsburgher lol. You are correct, we were relatively early in the wimax roll out, so I expect a similar timeline for LTE.
I'm waiting for S3 confirmation though, I'm pretty loyal to Samsung.
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Nice Phone ...But Im waitin on the Quad Cores and I had HTC for a long time but I think Im gonna stick with Sammy...Time will tell...
ill prbly have both the s3 and 1x also you do realize this is a dualcore a15 not an a9 and the lte chip is built in so MUCH better battery life. This is a Krait http://www.anandtech.com/show/4170/qualcomms-announces-krait-cpu-the-successor-to-scorpion
it is one bad piece of silicon.
Also with its upgraded graphics it may not be as fast as the exy gen 2 but seeing as how it will be a much more common chip for both at&t sprint and prbly verizon this will make for much faster rom development between the 3 as only the modem should be different.
Nice I've never owned an HTC but I have always liked them, this phone looks sweet!
HTC has one big problem. Some of their drivers have been abysmal in the past.
They put together nice hardware, always. Then they don't use its features. Like gpu acceleration.
I've always owned htc devices since original HTC Touch. Epic Touch was my first Sammy device. And it's like night and day in terms of how snappy it is, compared to say - evo 3d (which I still own, and just used it for about 3 weeks when my old epic touch was in repair.)
Even those T-mob gs2 are apparently much snappier than anything HTC put out with the same scorpion chipset - Sammy just know to properly optimize drivers and deliver the full power of the hardware.
Looks like a nice device but I think I will be sticking with my epic touch for a while.
nabbed you also cant forget sense was not gpu aceled thats part of it. even if they had good drivers. it wouldnt of made a diff
Ewww no best option is
Gnex > SGS3 > The next Nexus > SGS4
^ See the cycle ._.
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Ewww no best option is
Gnex > SGS3 > The next Nexus > SGS4
^ See the cycle ._.
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GN is a downgrade compared to Epic touch - slower gpu and lower res camera.
This design decision by Google has always baffled me - let's make our brand new flagship phone slower than the 10 months old phone by the same manufacturer.
Just wanted to chime in.
1. Quad Core is not actually always better. The phone OS is not optimized for it yet. So, you are really running a 4 cylinder engine on 2. Plus, the current quad cores use the previous generations technology. I read an article that said the new s4 processors are 40 percent more powerful per core over the tegra 3. So, this dual core is faster and more advanced than the tegra 3.
Another way to look at it is the 4 banger in my AUDI is faster than the V6 in your Taurus.
2. The new phone doesn't look anything like the one in the pic. That is a One X. Sprint is not getting the ONE X.
nabbed said:
GN is a downgrade compared to Epic touch - slower gpu and lower res camera.
This design decision by Google has always baffled me - let's make our brand new flagship phone slower than the 10 months old phone by the same manufacturer.
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Like the Post above me explains google chooses hardware that best fits and utilizes their software ...
Why do you think the iPhone has ****ty specs but is still one of (if not the best) smartphone on the market ?
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Like the Post above me explains google chooses hardware that best fits and utilizes their software ...
Why do you think the iPhone has ****ty specs but is still one of (if not the best) smartphone on the market ?
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Using lower spec hardware is better? You now assemble hardware to fit the software?
"Oh yeah, this 5mp camera is much hotter than that cranky old 8mp camera!
Oh wait, the image quality is worse? But you see, the lower the megapixel count, the faster it snaps."
Iphone has bad hardware but is one of the best, if not the best, phones?
Man, it's like you take logic and fact, then turn it all upside down.
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.. Hardware isn't everything...
Another pittsburgher here, I am going to wait for the s3 also. The one x looks great but the s3 will probably be alot more optimized. I just hope they put out the white one at launch instead of waiting a month or two after launch.
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Using lower spec hardware is better? You now assemble hardware to fit the software?
"Oh yeah, this 5mp camera is much hotter than that cranky old 8mp camera!
Oh wait, the image quality is worse? But you see, the lower the megapixel count, the faster it snaps."
Iphone has bad hardware but is one of the best, if not the best, phones?
Man, it's like you take logic and fact, then turn it all upside down.
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the iPhone has really good hardware. Besides that point, the primary reason iOS performs so well (besides the steller hardware) is that that iOS does more RealTime prioritizing. It essentially gives the current task top priority, which is why iOS can't do real multi tasking, they suspend apps and then resume them as needed (Android does this too, albeit slightly different - onPause onResume, etc).
So the combination of the iPhone's good hardware with high prio. for the foreground tasks is why their OS is super snappy (this could be called great design, and they definitely utilize their hardware to the max for rendering effects and what not)
It has nothing to do with Objective-C vs Java either, as some people think. Ever since the dalvik VM has adopted JIT, the performance differences between the languages is minimal
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Using lower spec hardware is better? You now assemble hardware to fit the software?
"Oh yeah, this 5mp camera is much hotter than that cranky old 8mp camera!
Oh wait, the image quality is worse? But you see, the lower the megapixel count, the faster it snaps."
Iphone has bad hardware but is one of the best, if not the best, phones?
Man, it's like you take logic and fact, then turn it all upside down.
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i hate to break it to you but megapixels doesnt equal image quality, my nexus s 4g blows the water out of my photons 8mp camera. samsung makes really decent cameras. same goes for teh iphone, it has hands down one of the BEST image sensors in the market for phones.
so even though the iphone 4's camera is 5MP's i would honestly stack it up against almost any android phone currently out in terms of picture quality. now if your looking for bigger images then yea grab that 8mp camera.
the reason why apple doesnt need to have the best hardware out there every 6 months is because they only have at most 6 (current gen iphone, ipad and itouch plus previous gen) platforms to write iOS for, and they do a VERY good job of optimizing the code for em all. companies like samsung or htc have a crapload of devices flooding the market each one more different than the last thus making it hard to make sure ics runs amazingly great on one platform and then starting the next. despite having older hardware and crappy features (IMO) the iphone isnt still around because its a social thing, there is actually some benefits.
P.S. i would like to state that i am a former iphone 3g owner, and i will never go back to that crap, if android collapses ill go wp7 before ios again
No thanks. I like seeing my phone screen in the day time
Im sold if the bootloader is unlocked and it comes in black.
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Hi guys i know this is a boring question but...........
I have a hd2 and have no plans on changing it yet. However, my sister is now after an upgrade and pestering me to tell her what to get. She loves my phone but if she gets it i am the one who will need to spend hours/days upgrading it for her. So i told her to go with android and await the new desire hd.
BUT now it has been announced i am left rather underwhelmed. She has always had a Samsung so do you guys think there is any real benefit waiting for the new desire and probably paying a premium or is there no real advantage to this?
I know the galaxy has issues with its gps but other than the screen being smaller (it is amoled though) the rest of the specs seem pretty comparable or am i missing something here?
Sorry for the dumb question but any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Samsung Galaxy S is awesome. I feel cool with Galaxy S.
Go with Samsung Galaxy S.
nothing is more advanced than htc sense , go with htc sense
The snapdragon doesn't really come close to samsungs hummingbird processor. A bit surprised HTC didn't release it with a dual core/wait till one is available. So when Samsung release the Orion CPU later this year and Qualcomm their dual cores you'll have a rather slow phone.
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Samsung Galaxy S is awesome. I feel cool with Galaxy S.
Go with Samsung Galaxy S.
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What would you expect from a user whose name is Super Galaxy S?
Anyway,go for the Desire HD dude.With the technology it's built I'm sure it will prove more than trouble for the competition!
And while being 75% sure I can tell you that it will carry Qualcomm's new chip,built with a 45nm process and more powerful graphics chip.Plus,as hoss_n2 said,nothing comes close to Sense!
Galaxy S wins a tad by hardware, but HTC wins by everything else: design, software and user experience.
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The snapdragon doesn't really come close to samsungs hummingbird processor. A bit surprised HTC didn't release it with a dual core/wait till one is available. So when Samsung release the Orion CPU later this year and Qualcomm their dual cores you'll have a rather slow phone.
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Huuuuhhhhhhh????????????????????????????
As far as I know:
It's a 45nm brand new QSD8255 that sucks less power, gives off less heat, therefore has the potential to operate at faster average speeds than the older one. It also has a new integrated GPU!
And... even the old CPU (but not the GPU!) in snapdragon was FASTER than the Hummingbird's CPU...
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Hi guys i know this is a boring question but...........
I have a hd2 and have no plans on changing it yet. However, my sister is now after an upgrade and pestering me to tell her what to get. She loves my phone but if she gets it i am the one who will need to spend hours/days upgrading it for her. So i told her to go with android and await the new desire hd.
BUT now it has been announced i am left rather underwhelmed. She has always had a Samsung so do you guys think there is any real benefit waiting for the new desire and probably paying a premium or is there no real advantage to this?
I know the galaxy has issues with its gps but other than the screen being smaller (it is amoled though) the rest of the specs seem pretty comparable or am i missing something here?
Sorry for the dumb question but any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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If your sis can bear the HD's size, then go for the HTC!!! Google optimized the Android platform for the snapdragons!!! However, the HD might be a bit too bulky for girl... if she is texting alot, she might consider the Desire-Z.
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And... even the old CPU (but not the GPU!) in snapdragon was FASTER than the Hummingbird's CPU...
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Well, hardware-wise the Hummingbird is by far faster than the Snapdragon MSM8250, no doubt about it. Hummingbird was getting 2200-2300 quadrant while desire is stuck at ~1300. And SGS's got like 55fps on Neocore whereas Desire is barely at 27fps.
Nah, HTC was definitely not in front of Samsung for the last generation of Android phones and is just now catching up with the Desire HD. We don't even know what this phone's real power is actually, we can only speculate. Let's see the first few benchmarks when the phone goes live before saying X or Y is best.
And actually, if I had to chose a phone right now between SGS and an unknown phone (htc desire hd, performance-wise), I would definitely go with the SGS which is proven to be good.
On the user experience part, yeah, HTC Sense is good. ALso the map caching stuff looks promising even if sluggish. We'll have to see.
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Hi guys i know this is a boring question but...........
I have a hd2 and have no plans on changing it yet. However, my sister is now after an upgrade and pestering me to tell her what to get. She loves my phone but if she gets it i am the one who will need to spend hours/days upgrading it for her. So i told her to go with android and await the new desire hd.
BUT now it has been announced i am left rather underwhelmed. She has always had a Samsung so do you guys think there is any real benefit waiting for the new desire and probably paying a premium or is there no real advantage to this?
I know the galaxy has issues with its gps but other than the screen being smaller (it is amoled though) the rest of the specs seem pretty comparable or am i missing something here?
Sorry for the dumb question but any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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I have an SGS. Out of the box, it had its problems - general lag, gps problems, etc. With some (little) tinkering however, I have managed to fix the lag problems and the phone now flies. However if your sister or you feel reluctant to risk anything happening to the phone, a phone that works near-perfectly out of the box is probably for you. I can tell you that the SGS does not work at all perfectly out of the box (even though it can be fixed) but the Desire HD, from HTC's past history, will probably work very well.
Although the Desire HD's screen is bigger by .3 inches, you have to consider - is that comfortable anymore? As this article shows, bigger screens don't always mean you can see more. To me personally, my SGS's screen at 4 inches is already the maximum a screen should be without it becoming uncomfortable for general use. Of course, your sister might have large hands (who knows) and this may not be an issue for her.
If your sister enjoys watching movies on her phone, she should consider the following: a 4.3" LCD screen compared to a 4" Super-AMOLED screen. The Desire HD's screen may be larger, but the Super-AMOLED screen is simply magnificent. The colours are vibrant and beautiful, something an LCD screen cannot reproduce. To truly appreciate the greatness of a Super-AMOLED screen you have to try it for yourself.
If your sister uses the GPS often, she's probably better off getting the Desire HD. Sadly, the SGS's GPS is extremely faulty, and is increasingly unlikely to ever get fixed.
When it comes to the CPU and Graphics card etc, I cannot compare them without trying the Desire HD. However I can tell you that the SGS seems to be more than adequate for everything I've thrown at it (after applying the simple lagfix, of course).
In terms of build... Some people may not like how light the SGS is, but I love it. Besides, a simple plastic case makes it feel sturdier already. However if your sister likes the sturdiness of your HD2, she is probably better off with a Desire HD.
Of course everything here can be ignored if she prefers having a QWERTY keyboard - just get the Desire Z then!
If you need any more information on the SGS, just send me a PM.
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Well, hardware-wise the Hummingbird is by far faster than the Snapdragon MSM8250, no doubt about it. Hummingbird was getting 2200-2300 quadrant while desire is stuck at ~1300. And SGS's got like 55fps on Neocore whereas Desire is barely at 27fps.
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Please do not quote Quadrant (total) scores, as it is a fatally flawed benchmark. Cyanogen demonstrated that. Do you research before posting.
And that Neocore score... I clearly stated that the Desire HD has a different GPU than the old Desire.
Please do your research, before you post such questionable stuff.
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Please do not quote Quadrant (total) scores, as it is a fatally flawed benchmark. Cyanogen demonstrated that. Do you research before posting.
And that Neocore score... I clearly stated that the Desire HD has a different GPU than the old Desire.
Please do your research, before you post such questionable stuff.
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I'm not the one that was claiming that the Desire is faster than the SGS huh ?
I'm not just going to let you say false things. And asking to do research doesn't give you any more credit than you had previously.
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Anyways, for the OP: go with the samsung if you want a great phone. Go with the HTC if you want a quality phone.
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I'm not the one that was claiming that the Desire is faster than the SGS huh ?
I'm not just going to let you say false things. And asking to do research doesn't give you any more credit than you had previously.
Anyways, for the OP: go with the samsung if you want a great phone. Go with the HTC if you want a quality phone.
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Well, if you do your research, you might find out that Android runs faster on Desire (excluding GPU intensive task, AS I ALREADY MENTIONED). You might also realize, that Quadrant total scores are not to be trusted. You might also read a word or two, about the new Adreno 205 GPU, and the faster memory that Desire HD has.
You are entitled your opinion.
I do not feel the need to defend snap, or attack hummingbird.
Other members probably already noticed your flaming attitude, and ignorant arguments "supported" by Quadrant scores, "mistaking" CPU performace for GPU performance, "forgetting" about the Linpack results, and so on.
Have it your way, you can have your last words I quit this pointless dispute.
Long live the SgS with its faulty GPS, unoptimized JIT, "Samsung grade" development support! And long live it's lightness, great screen!
Long live Desire HD with it's yet unknown, but surely existing loads of glitches as well And long live it's superior CPU performance over the Hummingbird! And long live it's new GPU, yet to be proven worthy!!!!
wow guys! All i can say is thanks for all the replies i wondered if i would get one!
Well not too sure if i read all this correct so let me check?
Ok (i know alot of this may be speculation as it was only announced today) so are we happy that the desire will have a better processor/spec than the galaxy?
HelloH you said the desire will have the new processor which will give off less heat and demand less power? Is that definite? If so that is a huge plus for the desire. I wonder what capacity the battery will have? This could, also coupled with a less hungry processor, lead to far greater battery time?
hoss_n2 you commented on sense, and on windows it is a must, but with android is it still that relevant?
danamoult you mentioned the amoled screen and i must admit i wanted one of those. How does the screen perform in daylight? She does not require a qwerty keyboard so we are cool on that. I must admit when i looked at the galaxy i was surprised by the 'feel' of the phone it did feel a tad plasticy and it reminded me alot of the iphone 3gs (not a complaint simply an observation) are all the issues with the phone solved by this site (other than the gps?) thanks for the pm offer if she gets this phone i will take you up on that!
kgk888 that is interesting that you have tried both the old desire and new galaxy. If someone offered you only one of those two phones which would you now choose? also you comment on the software/firmware are those flashable/changeable by the mods on this site? Especially upgrading to newer android versions. Lastly knowing what you know now would you choose the new desire hd or the galaxy?
Thanks again for all the replies. I luv this site.
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wow guys! All i can say is thanks for all the replies i wondered if i would get one!
hoss_n2 you commented on sense, and on windows it is a must, but with android is it still that relevant?
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windows sense and android sense both have same main features but android sense is much more faster and more customizable than windows ,
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windows sense and android sense both have same main features but android sense is much more faster and more customizable than windows ,
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Thanks, again. I did try a couple of android ports on my hd2 and the homescreen seemed quite customizable on the different ports i tried. Is android able to be 'tweaked' to offer the same sense feel? Obviously an out of the box solution is preferable.
sike222 said:
wow guys! All i can say is thanks for all the replies i wondered if i would get one!
Well not too sure if i read all this correct so let me check?
Ok (i know alot of this may be speculation as it was only announced today) so are we happy that the desire will have a better processor/spec than the galaxy?
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The snapdragon is not faster than the hummingbird in any way or form.
HelloH you said the desire will have the new processor which will give off less heat and demand less power? Is that definite? If so that is a huge plus for the desire.
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HelloH once again proves his infinite wit here as the Hummingbird is already at 45nm so it's a tie here.
I wonder what capacity the battery will have? This could, also coupled with a less hungry processor, lead to far greater battery time?
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Yes, but the 1230mah battery of the Desire HD is still less than that of the SGS' 1500mah one and with a 4.3 inch screen I doubt the battery-life is going to be great.
hoss_n2 you commented on sense, and on windows it is a must, but with android is it still that relevant?
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hoss_n2 already took care of this.
danamoult you mentioned the amoled screen and i must admit i wanted one of those. How does the screen perform in daylight? She does not require a qwerty keyboard so we are cool on that. I must admit when i looked at the galaxy i was surprised by the 'feel' of the phone it did feel a tad plasticy and it reminded me alot of the iphone 3gs (not a complaint simply an observation) are all the issues with the phone solved by this site (other than the gps?) thanks for the pm offer if she gets this phone i will take you up on that!
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I was surprised at the weight myself when I first tried out the SGS, but now that I've gotten used to it I actually think I prefer it to carrying a heavy brick around(had a HD2 before).
The samoled screen does great in sunlight(albeit probably a little worse than the SLCD of the Desire HD, but it does a lot better in darker environments).
snapdragon is faster no doubt. galaxy s software sucks too. with community fixes its quite fine however.
the weight size samoled and camera are cool. i think theyre both cool. might take a desire due to sw support tho. ive a sgs.
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I would say go for an HSPA+ handset if your in that area. Looking forward for the keyboard also, thats the main thing I miss from my G1. Plus Cyan is getting one so i'm sold lol.
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Alleged images of the HTC Edge, rumored to be the world's first quad-core smartphone when it launches in early 2012, have surfaced via Pocket Now.
As far as smartphones go, this one is at the top of the food chain. It packs a quad-core, 1.5-GHz Nvidia Tegra 3 CPU, 4.7-inch display with 720p resolution, an 8-megapixel camera with F/2.2 lens, 1GB of RAM, Beats Audio headphones, and the HTC Sense interface. In other words, it's twice as powerful as the HTC Rezound launched last week, which hits Verizon on November 14 for $300.
Strangely, 4G LTE support was not mentioned; instead the Edge is supposed to support 21Mbps HSPA+ (AT&T's old 4G technology).
In February, Nvidia announced Kal-El, the first quad-core mobile processor, and it first hit the market in October via the Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime. For more, my colleague Michael Miller "dissected" Kal-El and its "secret fifth core."
Last week, Verizon Wireless and HTC announced the HTC Rezound, HTC's first Beats Audio-paired smartphone. It's a 4G LTE device featuring a 4.3-inch 720p HD display, 1.5-GHz dual-core processor, 32GB of storage, 1GB of RAM, and the latest version of HTC Sense. It also sports an 8-megapixel camera and records video in 1080p. For more, see PCMag's Hands On With the HTC Rezound and slideshow below.
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Dang. All that stood out to me was 4.7-inch display. That is huge!
I might wait for this phone. I love my incredible still and putting a different ROM on it every week makes it feel like a new phone. Might hold out for this phone if it is on Verizon's network.
It didn't look like a verizon phone to me, plus I'd rather have a S4 processor than Tegra3
If it said HSPA+ then it's not coming to Verizon.
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I think it'll have a cdma counterpart that comes to VZW. Hopefully 4G LTE will be included.
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4.3 is too big
4.7 is ridiculous. I hope people don't buy these phones so manufactures can start making them portable again.
They say Q1 or Q2, but they're known to have delays on big phones like this so it may be Q3 or Q4, or later. I wouldn't wait for this one if I was you.
Doesn't matter how many cores it has. HTC will find new and exciting ways to make the superphone choppy and laggy through bloat and inefficient software design.
I guess there is a difference if you plan on putting AOSP on it though.
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Doesn't matter how many cores it has. HTC will find new and exciting ways to make the superphone choppy and laggy through bloat and inefficient software design.
I guess there is a difference if you plan on putting AOSP on it though.
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Huh, weird. Because Sense 3.5 runs perfectly fine on my phone, as good as AOSP, with obviously a few exceptions because of how old this Incredible hardware is, and since there's still a few little bugs in the rom.
Anyways, all these ICS phones are gonna be awesome, and it's awesome that this one still has capacitive buttons, so far. Battery life on it should be awesome though, except the rumor that it's 4.7 inches, that's basically close to the really small tablet area. But if it truly does come with 720p resolution, hopefully the rom from it will get ported to the Rezound
At what point will these quad core behemoth's start needing cooling fans.
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Huh, weird. Because Sense 3.5 runs perfectly fine on my phone, as good as AOSP, with obviously a few exceptions because of how old this Incredible hardware is, and since there's still a few little bugs in the rom.
Anyways, all these ICS phones are gonna be awesome, and it's awesome that this one still has capacitive buttons, so far. Battery life on it should be awesome though, except the rumor that it's 4.7 inches, that's basically close to the really small tablet area. But if it truly does come with 720p resolution, hopefully the rom from it will get ported to the Rezound
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The only way I've gotten sense 3.5 to work well on my phone is with the "2D hack" that the rcmix team figured out to make the sense widgets not have 30 different objects to render at once (calendar comes to mind). Even then, there's the dreaded pull down notification lag which is even present on the Amaze 4G, but amplified on our older hardware. Not to mention that despite all this it STILL takes 3-4 seconds to launch common apps like DIALER as opposed to the nearly instantaneous AOSP.
They have good UI designers but terrible programmers.
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Battery life on it should be awesome though, except the rumor that it's 4.7 inches, that's basically close to the really small tablet area.
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If this phone has everything the article says it'll have then I don't see how the battery life will be awesome, sounds like it'll be worse than the t-bolt
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If this phone has everything the article says it'll have then I don't see how the battery life will be awesome, sounds like it'll be worse than the t-bolt
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Quad-core. They should save battery, though nobody's entirely sure with phones. The first quad core tablet, the Asus Transformer Prime that's coming out, has a battery life of 12 hours while using it...plus I think like 16 or 18 with the keyboard dock. I'm not sure what size battery it has, but that's nice. And I'm pretty sure it has to do with the quad core
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First, I doubt that's a phone that's coming in 2012... ICS does NOT support capacitive buttons and any Android phone that releases in 2012 without ICS is going to languish.
Second, it's certainly not coming to Verizon with HSPA+. There are plenty of great phones that come out on other carriers that never make it to Verizon.
A note about the Tegra 3... The reason it's going to have such amazing battery life is because there is actually a fifth core, called a companion core, that it switches to when the phone isn't doing anything. Cool technology...
As an aside, when is a screen too big?
My quad core dell xps has terrible battery, but i have it set to max performance with the 2 gig nvidia card in it. Only lasts 1.5 hours.
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First, I doubt that's a phone that's coming in 2012... ICS does NOT support capacitive buttons and any Android phone that releases in 2012 without ICS is going to languish.
Second, it's certainly not coming to Verizon with HSPA+. There are plenty of great phones that come out on other carriers that never make it to Verizon.
A note about the Tegra 3... The reason it's going to have such amazing battery life is because there is actually a fifth core, called a companion core, that it switches to when the phone isn't doing anything. Cool technology...
As an aside, when is a screen too big?
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Really? Cause the nexus s port of ics uses the capacitive touch buttons...all HTC has to do is write the code to make it work...that's too easy to be a reason it won't get ics..
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First, I doubt that's a phone that's coming in 2012... ICS does NOT support capacitive buttons and any Android phone that releases in 2012 without ICS is going to languish.
Second, it's certainly not coming to Verizon with HSPA+. There are plenty of great phones that come out on other carriers that never make it to Verizon.
A note about the Tegra 3... The reason it's going to have such amazing battery life is because there is actually a fifth core, called a companion core, that it switches to when the phone isn't doing anything. Cool technology...
As an aside, when is a screen too big?
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Yeah, ICS most definitely DOES support capacitive buttons, because otherwise, that'd be a total fail in Android by doing that, considering all the phones that are potentially getting upgraded. It's just common sense. And yep, I've read plenty about the companion core. Finally, a screen is too big to me when I can't comfortably hold, and operate it at the same time with one hand, a nearly 5 inch screen is not comfortable. Might as well get a small tablet if you want that kind of screen size. That on a cell phone is ridiculous. 4.3 is the highest I'll go.
Ok, I have been with my Verizon-Nexus for 5 days now, having come from Sprint and the Epic 4G Touch Galaxy SII.
My Galaxy SII was rooted with the best ROM by Calk. Phone was ****ing crazy fast, and smooth as hot butter, ZERO lag whatsoever. You just barely touched the phone and it did what you command in 1/100th of a second
Now I have the Galaxy-Nexus, tried it stock, and then with a couple of the most popular ROM's + kernels, and stock or ROM'd this Nexus just has lag in areas I was not expecting. And the colors of the screen are not as vibrant and popping like the GSII. But my biggest gripe is how laggy this phone feels, it is pretty shocking, just open and close the app drawer, there is an ever so slight hiccup when it zooms in and out, almost a slight shake or stutter, for just a split second. But on my GS2 it opened before you hit the button, you just thought it and bam it opened, was that fast.
Scrolling and swiping between screens, is not as fluid as the GS2, there can be just a tiny bit of lag on the swipe of the Nexus, where the GS2 was like flowing water smooth. What I mean is, go to your furthest screen, then press the home key for it to take you back, there can be a little jitterbug lag on the Nexus for like 1/2 a sec, but on the GS2 it is warp speed factor 9 fast.
Battery life, just no comparison whatsoever, the GS2 could go 40+ hours on light, and 16 hours on full blast heavy day with like 4 hours on screen display. Nexus is not even in the same league. Hopefully Google updates and improved ROM's will fix this eventually.
Enough *****ing I do love the Nexus, pure ICS is awesome, and no GS2 ROM can come close, and the LTE network and better carrier overall compared to Sprint is why I jumped ship. The high res 720p screen is amazing, as much as a loved the GS2 screen, the high detail on the Nexus is awesome. The build quality on the Nexus feels very solid, and just a mature and artist design, compared to the plastic cheap GS2 feel.
The Nexus feels like Android has grown up, and improved greatly. Just I have a beef with the lag, and chop in this phone. If it came out after the GS2, and is running the latest and greatest OS, it should blow the GS2 out of the water, not be a step backwards in performance. Why didn't Samsung + Google think this out a little better, I mean build it off the GS2 architecture, use the same hardware from the GS2, but with the high res 720p screen, and 4.0 ICS. It seems in the hardware area they dropped the ball or something ?
The screen is more realistic in terms of color compared to the over saturated screen of the SII. Also, I can get two days on light usage easy.. and 20 hours with 3.5 screen on as well.. I also don't have the lag you speak of :/
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Try bigxie's rom and pair it with Franco's kernel.
If you still think the phone is laggy, then you should probably go back to the sgs2.
sorry, hit reply button to fast. you are forgetting one EXTREME major difference between the TWO devices.
the nexus does NOT have a DUAL CORE processor.
the S2 DOES
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sorry, hit reply button to fast. you are forgetting one EXTREME major difference between the TWO devices.
the nexus does NOT have a DUAL CORE processor.
the S2 DOES
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You must be thinking about the nexus s as the galaxy nexus most definitely does have dual core.
The biggest diff between the s2 and the gn is that the gn has a display resolution of 1280x720 which means the gpu has to push 2.5x more pixels than the s2.
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sorry, hit reply button to fast. you are forgetting one EXTREME major difference between the TWO devices.
the nexus does NOT have a DUAL CORE processor.
the S2 DOES
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Really?
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sorry, hit reply button to fast. You are forgetting one extreme major difference between the two devices.
The nexus does not have a dual core processor.
The s2 does
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lol lol lol lol lol !!!
I don't get any lag either?
It's great for me though, this phone has absolutely exceeded my expectations.
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sorry, hit reply button to fast. you are forgetting one EXTREME major difference between the TWO devices.
the nexus does NOT have a DUAL CORE processor.
the S2 DOES
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Hes talking about the GS2 Exynos dual core vs nexus TI Omap dual core. Exynos is known to be a beast in the mobile processor. Iphone 4s dual core may be the only better dual core at the moment. But im sure the next best thing is just around the corner as always... tegra 3 samsungs own exynos quad core etc.
so i just sold my s2.... to buy a GNEX... lol was the extra cash worth it? lol it comes in mail tomorrow im stoked!
Unfortunately the GN has more pixels to push with a slower GPU.
I swear the verizon version must be different cause i get smooth as butter on the gsm version. And we see lots of complaints of lag on the verizon one.
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I swear the verizon version must be different cause i get smooth as butter on the gsm version. And we see lots of complaints of lag on the verizon one.
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With this ROM the phone is much smoother, I don't mean to exaggerate, this is a fast and bad ass phone, don't get me wrong.
Just saying, if you have used a rooted and ROM'd Galaxy SII, that phone just seems fluid and smooth 110% of the time, where the Nexus is smooth 90% of the time if that makes sense.
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I totally agree with you mate, SGS2 is a much faster and more responsive, and fluid phone than the Galaxy Nexus
Other than the high resolution of the screen straining the processor, I dont know what could be the reason.
However, BATTERY! I cant offer any explanation, how the heck can there be such a major (almost 50%) drop in the performance from SGS2 to GN just on battery? I mean WTF!
i have no idea what u guys are smoking , but Gnex has been the smoothest android ive used ,and i have friends with SG2 and note on custom roms.
if u want faster animations and according to u u consider that as "Smoothness" just download spare parts and make all transitions and animations super fast.
PS: Im on AOKP milestone2 with franco's kernel with nova launcher .
0 lag or hipcups till now blows my friends GS2 away in fluidity and scrolling.
could be because you used crap ones earlier really, and ive seen not one or few MANY sgs2 being more responsive, faster in moving across screens and much more fluid in experience.
just go and check the number of threads on here where going back using the home screen is jittery for users, and the screen comes with small patches being rendered and then the full page, it is so stupid to see that!!
maybe you're the one smoking here.
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also just go and check quadrant, the GPU rendering performance is so patchy, the FPS is a paltry 10-20 or something
and compare that with SGS2 - thats so clearly flawless!! something like 50-60fps
just go and check on youtube on the comparison video which clearly shows that.
Quadrant isn't optimised for pics yet. Maybe you should download a touchwiz rim for the nexus lmao
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Quadrant isn't optimised for ics yet. Maybe you should download a touchwiz rom for the nexus? lmao
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Try bigxie's rom and pair it with Franco's kernel.
If you still think the phone is laggy, then you should probably go back to the sgs2.
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Totally agree, I have the same config except with the apex kernel and it is close to being like my SGS2. I prefer the physical size of the nexus though. I can't wait for a stable ics build for the SGS2 so I can compare both.
Here's my quadrant score running bigxie rom and franco kernel. I'm OCed to 1.35ghz.
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In the Engadget summer buying guide they chose the One X as the top phone. Enjoy the one publication win. :highfive:
And v3 will edit with lots more shortly personally who has the biggest nob doesn't bother me but hey whatever floats your boat
http://m.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/review/2184581/htc-vs-samsung-galaxy-s3-head-head-review
http://www.t3.com/features/samsung-galaxy-s3-vs-htc-one-x/HTC-One-X-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-S3-Part-3
Really bored now
I personally like both but neither get me sexually excited but as I said different strokes
The one x is just a laggy Quadcore HTC Sense only htc can make them soon laggggy
Running PARANOID ANDROID RC2 and it doesn't lag at all.
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Running Stock and no lag. Must be User Error.
Same here, stock and no lag
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Not that it matters, but I've already read at least 10 comparisons with the final result being in favour of the HTC one X.
so 'finally' is a bit redundant
you people are crazy, the OP is an SGS3 fan and he thinks we are supposed to be fooled by the stupid thread title
no its not one, the One X was actually favored by over than 50% of the online media, although this is not the first time Engadget said this
in their SGS3 review they talked more about the One X than the s3
i don't get it seriously people, do you suffer from a inferiority complex that force you to make such ridiculous posts in the One X forum?
The One X beats the SGS 3 in everything except the GPU and Battery, there is nothing more to say here!
have we not had enough of these threads already
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Just dont know why always this f****g reviews or comparisons start with: " Android rivals for Apple's iPhone "
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Guys, it was the HTC One XL that won the comparison. Snapdragon S4 is awesome with excellent performance, great battery life and LTE.
The international tegra3 OneX didn't win anything. Unfortunately, It's a terrible chip set with low performance, low battery life, causes "overheat" battery status frequently, runs on an old Linux kernel, and slows to a crawl when you fill up the storage.
Comparing the American hoxl with the American sgs3: they have the same hardware except the sgs3 has double the ram, which means that it doesn't have the multitasking problems of the hoxl.
However, if you ignore the poor multitasking, the software on the HTC side is imo better than touchwiz when it comes to look and feel - which was one of engadgets reasons for preferring it. They praised the inclusion of a multitasking button instead of a menu button which is funny because all of the custom roms have remapped the buttons!, so they must really enjoy seeing the 3 dot button wasting screen space everwhere
At the end of the day, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Software wise, I'm looking forward to a stable CM10 on my gs3. So for me only hardware matters.
so really what should we do in here?
we need a mod that can really take action
this is getting ridiculous
Plain ridiculous....
If it is so terrible, why google put it into nexus then and not exynos?
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so really what should we do in here?
we need a mod that can really take action
this is getting ridiculous
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get the strawberries and cream out and have a picnic i think!!!!!:silly:
OP has got nought better to do than masturbate furiously and cry to him self in the corner lol!!!!
I'm getting sick of people defending and fighting for their brand. where ever we go we can see a Apple vs. Android, Samsung vs. i-phone, HOX vs, SGS3 cat fight. It's just a smart phone for god sake. It's not like your serving your dark master...
I thought the original post smelt more fishy than Margaret Thatcher's secret garden!!!!:silly:
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I'm bored at work so will continue to fill useless threads like this with senseless bull**** until the mods close it. Freeze dried macaque monkey anyone????
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Guys, it was the HTC One XL that won the comparison. Snapdragon S4 is awesome with excellent performance, great battery life and LTE.
The international tegra3 OneX didn't win anything. Unfortunately, It's a terrible chip set with low performance, low battery life, causes "overheat" battery status frequently, runs on an old Linux kernel, and slows to a crawl when you fill up the storage.
Comparing the American hoxl with the American sgs3: they have the same hardware except the sgs3 has double the ram, which means that it doesn't have the multitasking problems of the hoxl.
However, if you ignore the poor multitasking, the software on the HTC side is imo better than touchwiz when it comes to look and feel - which was one of engadgets reasons for preferring it. They praised the inclusion of a multitasking button instead of a menu button which is funny because all of the custom roms have remapped the buttons!, so they must really enjoy seeing the 3 dot button wasting screen space everwhere
At the end of the day, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Software wise, I'm looking forward to a stable CM10 on my gs3. So for me only hardware matters.
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If u think that makers of GTX 680 (Nvidia) can be crushed so easily then u r wrong..
U have a pentile display which has ink marks n black clipping n color banding issues..We HOX owners don't even piss on such displays coz the color of it is also appear grey on it. .
The first thing u look at n keep looking at the whole time is the screen n when its that ****ty then nobody gives a damn..
The S3 is officially the ugliest looking phone ever. N this is supported by Android Police,Engadget etc..
The support of tegra 3 is gonna be way Better coz its on so many devices now including Nexus 7. . N with Microsoft surface also coming out with tegra 3 we might e able to port windows 8 to HOX. .
Nobody gives a damn to exynos. .
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I looked at a SGS3 display vs the HOX and whilst the HOX display is sharper, brighter and has better colors, the SGS3 display is pretty good, you hardly notice it's pentile unless you go looking for it. The color banding is not a display issue but a software choice made by Samsung to increase sharpness, it is called mdnie and the SGS2 at least had many different profiles (for different apps/lighting situation), so there never would be banding in the galery
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I looked at a SGS3 display vs the HOX and whilst the HOX display is sharper, brighter and has better colors, the SGS3 display is pretty good, you hardly notice it's pentile unless you go looking for it. The color banding is not a display issue but a software choice made by Samsung to increase sharpness, it is called mdnie and the SGS2 at least had many different profiles (for different apps/lighting situation), so there never would be banding in the galery
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Apparently its not a software issue..in the pentile arrangement the sub pixels are shared between pixels..Supercurio is a developer here n he tried to fix this issue for months on Galaxy Note but couldn't even improve it. Let alone fixing it n ultimately he gave up n the thread was closed. .
N u r comparing it to S2 !!!!!!!!... s2 has an RGB display n is way better than Note n s3 crap. .
N s2 is the best phone from Samsung's stable til now ..
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Noticing a lot of parallels with this phone and the LG G2/G3. Particularly in design. I've had a lot of different phones over the past year (One M8 GPE, OPO, MotoX, Nexus 5), and I keep going back to my G2. I really love this phone, the form factor, feel, and the volume on the back, it's just such an awesome phone. So when I saw this new offering by Asus it kind of peaked my interest.
A bit on the fence though. Immediately I saw one thing I'm not too thrilled about... fat bottom bezel. Would much rather had a shorter phone with onscreen navigation. That issue aside, few questions/concerns, and any input is appreciated....
- Does Android really dramatically benefit from 4GB of memory yet? or is this more of a future proof measure?
- Atom Z3580 vs Snapdragon 800. I honestly have little to no issue with my G2, for a phone that is 2 years old, the processor holds up rather nicely. I don't know a whole lot about Atom as a mobile platform, but is this comparable or better? Same concern with the GPU, PowerVR vs Adreno... I've always been under the impression PowerVR is pretty dodgy.
- Camera is somewhat important to me. I've read mixed reviews on the Toshiba sensor in it. The G2 isn't too shabby tbh, however, I noticed the Zenfone has a much wider aperture (f2.0 vs f2.4), and the FFC is also 5MP vs the 2.1MP on the G2. Can't seem to find any definitive answer on if the Zenfone has OIS, does anyone know for certain? Opinions on the camera??
Huge selling points for me is the SD card and dual SIM, two things the G2 doesn't have. Anyone else in the same boat, debating if it's worth upgrading from a G2?
I was actually with a similar dilemma, I could get a cheap g2 or the 550ML, decided for the zenfone at the end. since I have the 2 gig version I wouldn't know about the benefits. processor is snappy and the phone flies, tried a few games on it and no issues (dead trigger 2 and plants vrs zombies). little to no heat when playing ingress (gps and data enabled, screen on most of the time). got mixed feelings on the camera. no OIS as far as I know, night mode is impressive, but noise is really noticeable.
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the battery is actually the only issue I see. some people manage to get by, but there are some issues, asus is working on them though.
I'm happy with my purchase though.
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Noticing a lot of parallels with this phone and the LG G2/G3. Particularly in design. I've had a lot of different phones over the past year (One M8 GPE, OPO, MotoX, Nexus 5), and I keep going back to my G2. I really love this phone, the form factor, feel, and the volume on the back, it's just such an awesome phone. So when I saw this new offering by Asus it kind of peaked my interest.
A bit on the fence though. Immediately I saw one thing I'm not too thrilled about... fat bottom bezel. Would much rather had a shorter phone with onscreen navigation. That issue aside, few questions/concerns, and any input is appreciated....
- Does Android really dramatically benefit from 4GB of memory yet? or is this more of a future proof measure?
- Atom Z3580 vs Snapdragon 800. I honestly have little to no issue with my G2, for a phone that is 2 years old, the processor holds up rather nicely. I don't know a whole lot about Atom as a mobile platform, but is this comparable or better? Same concern with the GPU, PowerVR vs Adreno... I've always been under the impression PowerVR is pretty dodgy.
- Camera is somewhat important to me. I've read mixed reviews on the Toshiba sensor in it. The G2 isn't too shabby tbh, however, I noticed the Zenfone has a much wider aperture (f2.0 vs f2.4), and the FFC is also 5MP vs the 2.1MP on the G2. Can't seem to find any definitive answer on if the Zenfone has OIS, does anyone know for certain? Opinions on the camera??
Huge selling points for me is the SD card and dual SIM, two things the G2 doesn't have. Anyone else in the same boat, debating if it's worth upgrading from a G2?
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I upgraded from my G2 but only because it randomly shuts down and reboots, among other issues. Also the SGX from imagination is what Apple uses in their mobile devices so I wouldn't call it buggy at all. Perhaps the implementation of bad drivers has caused it to be poor with some devices.
So far I've used it for a few hours & while I miss custom ROMs on the G2 the stock ASUS ROM is usable. Can't comment on the camera because I don't take pics frequently.
Performance seems better, can't say whether games are better yet until I load a few.
If your G2 doesn't have the issues mine does then I wouldn't recommend upgrading. You would be better off saving your money for the next Zen or whatever.
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I actually have my ZF2 CN version up on eBay right now, and am pondering whether to go with the US version or the LG G2. Lack of LTE wasn't a deal killer but the HSPA+ signal wasn't always dependable and two of my more frequently used video streaming apps force closed immediately upon opening (watch TNT) or upon loading a video (Xfinity to go). Right now I found a new Verizon G2 that also works on GSM networks for $150 and I also found a way to hide tethering on the G2 so that the carriers can't track the volume so I'm leaning that way right now.
I think I'm gonna pull the trigger and buy one. I guess if I don't like it I can always throw it on Swappa.
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So far I've used it for a few hours & while I miss custom ROMs on the G2 the stock ASUS ROM is usable. Can't comment on the camera because I don't take pics frequently.
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When you have had a chance to use it for a bit if you would please comment on the brightness and readability of the display while in sunlight, I would appreciate. Some reviews and nit specifications indicate it leaves a bit to be desired.
Thanks.
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When you have had a chance to use it for a bit if you would please comment on the brightness and readability of the display while in sunlight, I would appreciate. Some reviews and nit specifications indicate it leaves a bit to be desired.
Thanks.
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At the lowest brightness the ZF2 is brighter than the G2's minimum...but the ZF2's max is visibly lower than a G2 at max. This will give you an idea of how it may work outside until I try it out tomorrow.
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If you care about camera, don't get this phone. I have it, and zooming into pictures shows just how horribly noisy the image is. But I knew this before buying the phone - check out the camera compare tools on gsmarena.com and you will see just how bad this sensor is. Ability to resolve detail and extreme dithering are present. Maybe the sensor is really only as good as a 5 MP. Is the camera still good enough for what I want? Yes. I bought it because it's really really cheap and overall an amazing phone for the price.
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I updated from a G3 and it was worth it all the way in my mind... Man that phone is fast... But as @psommerfeld said, only if the camera doesn't matter too much for you... Not that it's completely terrible, but it's not as good as the lg...
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I updated from a G3 and it was worth it all the way in my mind... Man that phone is fast... But as @psommerfeld said, only if the camera doesn't matter too much for you... Not that it's completely terrible, but it's not as good as the lg...
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I'd go back to the g3
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I'd go back to the g3
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Already gave the g3 to the wife ... Seriously the stock rom on this one is faster than the fastest g3 rom with tens of optimization tricks applied, and I've tried them all.
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I updated from a G3 and it was worth it all the way in my mind... Man that phone is fast... But as @psommerfeld said, only if the camera doesn't matter too much for you... Not that it's completely terrible, but it's not as good as the lg...
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I've got the latest firmware update which seems to have reduced camera noise which is good news. I haven't looked to see how much better it is. I didn't expect they could or would improve it. Kinda happy with Asus upgrading the software 3 times since I got the phone. At least they care to fix what they can.
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