Will this phone ever get as smooth as the SII ? - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

Ok, I have been with my Verizon-Nexus for 5 days now, having come from Sprint and the Epic 4G Touch Galaxy SII.
My Galaxy SII was rooted with the best ROM by Calk. Phone was ****ing crazy fast, and smooth as hot butter, ZERO lag whatsoever. You just barely touched the phone and it did what you command in 1/100th of a second
Now I have the Galaxy-Nexus, tried it stock, and then with a couple of the most popular ROM's + kernels, and stock or ROM'd this Nexus just has lag in areas I was not expecting. And the colors of the screen are not as vibrant and popping like the GSII. But my biggest gripe is how laggy this phone feels, it is pretty shocking, just open and close the app drawer, there is an ever so slight hiccup when it zooms in and out, almost a slight shake or stutter, for just a split second. But on my GS2 it opened before you hit the button, you just thought it and bam it opened, was that fast.
Scrolling and swiping between screens, is not as fluid as the GS2, there can be just a tiny bit of lag on the swipe of the Nexus, where the GS2 was like flowing water smooth. What I mean is, go to your furthest screen, then press the home key for it to take you back, there can be a little jitterbug lag on the Nexus for like 1/2 a sec, but on the GS2 it is warp speed factor 9 fast.
Battery life, just no comparison whatsoever, the GS2 could go 40+ hours on light, and 16 hours on full blast heavy day with like 4 hours on screen display. Nexus is not even in the same league. Hopefully Google updates and improved ROM's will fix this eventually.
Enough *****ing I do love the Nexus, pure ICS is awesome, and no GS2 ROM can come close, and the LTE network and better carrier overall compared to Sprint is why I jumped ship. The high res 720p screen is amazing, as much as a loved the GS2 screen, the high detail on the Nexus is awesome. The build quality on the Nexus feels very solid, and just a mature and artist design, compared to the plastic cheap GS2 feel.
The Nexus feels like Android has grown up, and improved greatly. Just I have a beef with the lag, and chop in this phone. If it came out after the GS2, and is running the latest and greatest OS, it should blow the GS2 out of the water, not be a step backwards in performance. Why didn't Samsung + Google think this out a little better, I mean build it off the GS2 architecture, use the same hardware from the GS2, but with the high res 720p screen, and 4.0 ICS. It seems in the hardware area they dropped the ball or something ?

The screen is more realistic in terms of color compared to the over saturated screen of the SII. Also, I can get two days on light usage easy.. and 20 hours with 3.5 screen on as well.. I also don't have the lag you speak of :/
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Try bigxie's rom and pair it with Franco's kernel.
If you still think the phone is laggy, then you should probably go back to the sgs2.

sorry, hit reply button to fast. you are forgetting one EXTREME major difference between the TWO devices.
the nexus does NOT have a DUAL CORE processor.
the S2 DOES

LORDFIRE00 said:
sorry, hit reply button to fast. you are forgetting one EXTREME major difference between the TWO devices.
the nexus does NOT have a DUAL CORE processor.
the S2 DOES
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You must be thinking about the nexus s as the galaxy nexus most definitely does have dual core.
The biggest diff between the s2 and the gn is that the gn has a display resolution of 1280x720 which means the gpu has to push 2.5x more pixels than the s2.

LORDFIRE00 said:
sorry, hit reply button to fast. you are forgetting one EXTREME major difference between the TWO devices.
the nexus does NOT have a DUAL CORE processor.
the S2 DOES
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Really?
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lordfire00 said:
sorry, hit reply button to fast. You are forgetting one extreme major difference between the two devices.
The nexus does not have a dual core processor.
The s2 does
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lol lol lol lol lol !!!

I don't get any lag either?
It's great for me though, this phone has absolutely exceeded my expectations.

LORDFIRE00 said:
sorry, hit reply button to fast. you are forgetting one EXTREME major difference between the TWO devices.
the nexus does NOT have a DUAL CORE processor.
the S2 DOES
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Hes talking about the GS2 Exynos dual core vs nexus TI Omap dual core. Exynos is known to be a beast in the mobile processor. Iphone 4s dual core may be the only better dual core at the moment. But im sure the next best thing is just around the corner as always... tegra 3 samsungs own exynos quad core etc.

so i just sold my s2.... to buy a GNEX... lol was the extra cash worth it? lol it comes in mail tomorrow im stoked!

Unfortunately the GN has more pixels to push with a slower GPU.

I swear the verizon version must be different cause i get smooth as butter on the gsm version. And we see lots of complaints of lag on the verizon one.

RogerPodacter said:
I swear the verizon version must be different cause i get smooth as butter on the gsm version. And we see lots of complaints of lag on the verizon one.
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With this ROM the phone is much smoother, I don't mean to exaggerate, this is a fast and bad ass phone, don't get me wrong.
Just saying, if you have used a rooted and ROM'd Galaxy SII, that phone just seems fluid and smooth 110% of the time, where the Nexus is smooth 90% of the time if that makes sense.
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I totally agree with you mate, SGS2 is a much faster and more responsive, and fluid phone than the Galaxy Nexus
Other than the high resolution of the screen straining the processor, I dont know what could be the reason.
However, BATTERY! I cant offer any explanation, how the heck can there be such a major (almost 50%) drop in the performance from SGS2 to GN just on battery? I mean WTF!

i have no idea what u guys are smoking , but Gnex has been the smoothest android ive used ,and i have friends with SG2 and note on custom roms.
if u want faster animations and according to u u consider that as "Smoothness" just download spare parts and make all transitions and animations super fast.
PS: Im on AOKP milestone2 with franco's kernel with nova launcher .
0 lag or hipcups till now blows my friends GS2 away in fluidity and scrolling.

could be because you used crap ones earlier really, and ive seen not one or few MANY sgs2 being more responsive, faster in moving across screens and much more fluid in experience.
just go and check the number of threads on here where going back using the home screen is jittery for users, and the screen comes with small patches being rendered and then the full page, it is so stupid to see that!!
maybe you're the one smoking here.
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also just go and check quadrant, the GPU rendering performance is so patchy, the FPS is a paltry 10-20 or something
and compare that with SGS2 - thats so clearly flawless!! something like 50-60fps
just go and check on youtube on the comparison video which clearly shows that.

Quadrant isn't optimised for pics yet. Maybe you should download a touchwiz rim for the nexus lmao
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Quadrant isn't optimised for ics yet. Maybe you should download a touchwiz rom for the nexus? lmao
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dwang said:
Try bigxie's rom and pair it with Franco's kernel.
If you still think the phone is laggy, then you should probably go back to the sgs2.
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Totally agree, I have the same config except with the apex kernel and it is close to being like my SGS2. I prefer the physical size of the nexus though. I can't wait for a stable ics build for the SGS2 so I can compare both.

Here's my quadrant score running bigxie rom and franco kernel. I'm OCed to 1.35ghz.
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HTC Rezound Now, or Quad-core HTC Edge Later?

HTC Rezound Now, or Quad-core HTC Edge Later?
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Alleged images of the HTC Edge, rumored to be the world's first quad-core smartphone when it launches in early 2012, have surfaced via Pocket Now.
As far as smartphones go, this one is at the top of the food chain. It packs a quad-core, 1.5-GHz Nvidia Tegra 3 CPU, 4.7-inch display with 720p resolution, an 8-megapixel camera with F/2.2 lens, 1GB of RAM, Beats Audio headphones, and the HTC Sense interface. In other words, it's twice as powerful as the HTC Rezound launched last week, which hits Verizon on November 14 for $300.
Strangely, 4G LTE support was not mentioned; instead the Edge is supposed to support 21Mbps HSPA+ (AT&T's old 4G technology).
In February, Nvidia announced Kal-El, the first quad-core mobile processor, and it first hit the market in October via the Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime. For more, my colleague Michael Miller "dissected" Kal-El and its "secret fifth core."
Last week, Verizon Wireless and HTC announced the HTC Rezound, HTC's first Beats Audio-paired smartphone. It's a 4G LTE device featuring a 4.3-inch 720p HD display, 1.5-GHz dual-core processor, 32GB of storage, 1GB of RAM, and the latest version of HTC Sense. It also sports an 8-megapixel camera and records video in 1080p. For more, see PCMag's Hands On With the HTC Rezound and slideshow below.
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Dang. All that stood out to me was 4.7-inch display. That is huge!
I might wait for this phone. I love my incredible still and putting a different ROM on it every week makes it feel like a new phone. Might hold out for this phone if it is on Verizon's network.
It didn't look like a verizon phone to me, plus I'd rather have a S4 processor than Tegra3
If it said HSPA+ then it's not coming to Verizon.
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I think it'll have a cdma counterpart that comes to VZW. Hopefully 4G LTE will be included.
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4.3 is too big
4.7 is ridiculous. I hope people don't buy these phones so manufactures can start making them portable again.
They say Q1 or Q2, but they're known to have delays on big phones like this so it may be Q3 or Q4, or later. I wouldn't wait for this one if I was you.
Doesn't matter how many cores it has. HTC will find new and exciting ways to make the superphone choppy and laggy through bloat and inefficient software design.
I guess there is a difference if you plan on putting AOSP on it though.
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Div033 said:
Doesn't matter how many cores it has. HTC will find new and exciting ways to make the superphone choppy and laggy through bloat and inefficient software design.
I guess there is a difference if you plan on putting AOSP on it though.
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Huh, weird. Because Sense 3.5 runs perfectly fine on my phone, as good as AOSP, with obviously a few exceptions because of how old this Incredible hardware is, and since there's still a few little bugs in the rom.
Anyways, all these ICS phones are gonna be awesome, and it's awesome that this one still has capacitive buttons, so far. Battery life on it should be awesome though, except the rumor that it's 4.7 inches, that's basically close to the really small tablet area. But if it truly does come with 720p resolution, hopefully the rom from it will get ported to the Rezound
At what point will these quad core behemoth's start needing cooling fans.
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Huh, weird. Because Sense 3.5 runs perfectly fine on my phone, as good as AOSP, with obviously a few exceptions because of how old this Incredible hardware is, and since there's still a few little bugs in the rom.
Anyways, all these ICS phones are gonna be awesome, and it's awesome that this one still has capacitive buttons, so far. Battery life on it should be awesome though, except the rumor that it's 4.7 inches, that's basically close to the really small tablet area. But if it truly does come with 720p resolution, hopefully the rom from it will get ported to the Rezound
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The only way I've gotten sense 3.5 to work well on my phone is with the "2D hack" that the rcmix team figured out to make the sense widgets not have 30 different objects to render at once (calendar comes to mind). Even then, there's the dreaded pull down notification lag which is even present on the Amaze 4G, but amplified on our older hardware. Not to mention that despite all this it STILL takes 3-4 seconds to launch common apps like DIALER as opposed to the nearly instantaneous AOSP.
They have good UI designers but terrible programmers.
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Battery life on it should be awesome though, except the rumor that it's 4.7 inches, that's basically close to the really small tablet area.
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If this phone has everything the article says it'll have then I don't see how the battery life will be awesome, sounds like it'll be worse than the t-bolt
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If this phone has everything the article says it'll have then I don't see how the battery life will be awesome, sounds like it'll be worse than the t-bolt
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Quad-core. They should save battery, though nobody's entirely sure with phones. The first quad core tablet, the Asus Transformer Prime that's coming out, has a battery life of 12 hours while using it...plus I think like 16 or 18 with the keyboard dock. I'm not sure what size battery it has, but that's nice. And I'm pretty sure it has to do with the quad core
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First, I doubt that's a phone that's coming in 2012... ICS does NOT support capacitive buttons and any Android phone that releases in 2012 without ICS is going to languish.
Second, it's certainly not coming to Verizon with HSPA+. There are plenty of great phones that come out on other carriers that never make it to Verizon.
A note about the Tegra 3... The reason it's going to have such amazing battery life is because there is actually a fifth core, called a companion core, that it switches to when the phone isn't doing anything. Cool technology...
As an aside, when is a screen too big?
My quad core dell xps has terrible battery, but i have it set to max performance with the 2 gig nvidia card in it. Only lasts 1.5 hours.
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First, I doubt that's a phone that's coming in 2012... ICS does NOT support capacitive buttons and any Android phone that releases in 2012 without ICS is going to languish.
Second, it's certainly not coming to Verizon with HSPA+. There are plenty of great phones that come out on other carriers that never make it to Verizon.
A note about the Tegra 3... The reason it's going to have such amazing battery life is because there is actually a fifth core, called a companion core, that it switches to when the phone isn't doing anything. Cool technology...
As an aside, when is a screen too big?
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Really? Cause the nexus s port of ics uses the capacitive touch buttons...all HTC has to do is write the code to make it work...that's too easy to be a reason it won't get ics..
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First, I doubt that's a phone that's coming in 2012... ICS does NOT support capacitive buttons and any Android phone that releases in 2012 without ICS is going to languish.
Second, it's certainly not coming to Verizon with HSPA+. There are plenty of great phones that come out on other carriers that never make it to Verizon.
A note about the Tegra 3... The reason it's going to have such amazing battery life is because there is actually a fifth core, called a companion core, that it switches to when the phone isn't doing anything. Cool technology...
As an aside, when is a screen too big?
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Yeah, ICS most definitely DOES support capacitive buttons, because otherwise, that'd be a total fail in Android by doing that, considering all the phones that are potentially getting upgraded. It's just common sense. And yep, I've read plenty about the companion core. Finally, a screen is too big to me when I can't comfortably hold, and operate it at the same time with one hand, a nearly 5 inch screen is not comfortable. Might as well get a small tablet if you want that kind of screen size. That on a cell phone is ridiculous. 4.3 is the highest I'll go.

[INFO] Galaxy Nexus appears to be fastest smartphone available. (Benchmark Within)

Posted over at DroidDog, it appears that the new Galaxy Nexus is currently the fastest phone available when it comes to the browser:
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And while the browser benchmarks are impressive, DroidDog did go on to say:
"But while the G-NEX kicked but[sic] in the browser test it couldn’t compete with the iPhone in the graphics department."
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Hopefully, we'll get to experience the quickness very soon whenever Verizon gets off their hinds and releases our phones.
might want to change the title of this thread, it is disingenuous to say the least...
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might want to change the title of this thread, it is disingenuous to say the least...
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I disagree. A majority of the review sites use the Browser benchmarks as the ultimate decider on how good a phone is. A phone isn't used for gaming very often...but *is* used for browsing. The browsing score is much more important to most people than the gaming scores. As long as it plays most basic games I'm fine with it...but having the browser be the quickest is very important to me.
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I disagree. A majority of the review sites use the Browser benchmarks as the ultimate decider on how good a phone is. A phone isn't used for gaming very often...but *is* used for browsing. The browsing score is much more important to most people than the gaming scores. As long as it plays most basic games I'm fine with it...but having the browser be the quickest is very important to me.
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oh okay, fair enough.
The browser is damn fast on the thing, i love it.
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oh okay, fair enough.
The browser is damn fast on the thing, i love it.
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Well when Verizon steps up their game I'll be excited to try it out haha
browser improvements seem to be mostly linked to ICS as well as the TI OMAP having to do a little with it.
The Nexus S with ICS seemed to get a huge boost in browser performance.
Let's see how GSII and other devices stack up against the GN once they get ICS.
The Galnet ICS port for GSII shows it getting faster sunspider score than the Galaxy Nexus by a bit. Though this one is clocked at 1.6ghz. I'd say its an even battle.
Would be nice if people actually link to Anandtech as thats where the original graph came from in the original post.
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Would be nice if people actually link to Anandtech as thats where the original graph came from in the original post.
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It would be nice if people were actually informed and read the article in the OP. Mail Online conducted the test and posted the original graph. Apology accepted.
Please read the original Mail Online article.
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Please read the original Mail Online article.
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I stand corrected.
PWNT, burned at the stake, then buried. *runs away with tail between the legs*
lol. You think the *Daily Mail* are capable of running benchmarks?
They nicked the graphs from anandtech. They even admit it...
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might want to change the title of this thread, it is disingenuous to say the least...
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Exactly! My Optimus 2X getsa score of 113592...way faster :-D.
pewpewbangbang said:
browser improvements seem to be mostly linked to ICS as well as the TI OMAP having to do a little with it.
The Nexus S with ICS seemed to get a huge boost in browser performance.
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You're right. They've optimized the browser "dramatically" (lol) on ICS. From the Android site: http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-4.0-highlights.html
Across all types of content, the Android Browser offers dramatically improved*page rendering performancethrough updated versions of the WebKit core and the V8 Crankshaft compilation engine for JavaScript. In benchmarks run on a Nexus S device, the Android 4.0 browser showed an improvement of nearly 220% over the Android 2.3 browser in the V8 Benchmark Suite and more than 35% in the SunSpider 9.1 JavaScript Benchmark. When run on a Galaxy Nexus device, the Android 4.0 browser showed improvement of nearly 550% in the V8 benchmark and nearly 70% in the SunSpider benchmark.
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-BoneZ- said:
Posted over at DroidDog, it appears that the new Galaxy Nexus is currently the fastest phone available when it comes to the browser:
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blo...hone-4s-and-droid-razr-as-fastest-smartphone/
And while the browser benchmarks are impressive, DroidDog did go on to say:
Hopefully, we'll get to experience the quickness very soon whenever Verizon gets off their hinds and releases our phones.
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Browser mark is flaky at best. I've played with a Bionic and gotten like 93k then 98k with a RAZR. The scores fluctuate a lot. My concern is they said the phone stutters, the display is pixelated and the audio issues. Plus Verizon is gonna bloat it down sad day for me.
Too bad the Note "smokes" the Nexus. ;p
browser speeds are cool(if you're into that), but who uses stock browser anyway? Its all about, how well does it multitask? Handle 720P video playback? GPS lock? Does it get hot easily like HTC phones? Will the screen bother your eyes like the RAZR?..
And Ofcourse, FPS on Angry Birds? SIRI(IRIS) issues? ;P
I get 4000 in quadrant and the only thing in the graph on anttoto that is faster than my note is the transformer prime.
Also getting 1900 in sunspider on a big stock galaxy note. I think the note will kick even more as a when ICS is released in jan/feb.
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Browser mark is flaky at best. I've played with a Bionic and gotten like 93k then 98k with a RAZR. The scores fluctuate a lot. My concern is they said the phone stutters, the display is pixelated and the audio issues. Plus Verizon is gonna bloat it down sad day for me.
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Where did you hear the display on the Nexus is pixelated? Every review I've read highly praises the display, going as far to say it's one of the best, if not the best, displays out there. And Verizon's gonna "bloat it down"? Two apps, both required by Verizon so the phone can be used on their network. If that's "bloating it down", then yeah...dunno what to say.
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But while the G-NEX kicked but[sic] in the browser test it couldn’t compete with the iPhone in the graphics department.
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Well no Duh! Apple took a year old phone, slapped 2 pieces of upgraded hardware and sold it as new. The sad part is that its not faster in every department. If there gonna sell a year old phone as new, they better have the stats to support it.
The funny part is a Lot of Apple customers wont admit it, but they really want a bigger screen. So Apple can do either of 2 things, make the iPhone 5 with a 4.5inch screen in which case I will love to watch all the iSheep who said that they loved having a small phone squirm. Or keep it small to save face and make the iSheep suffer with the tiny ass screen.
I love watching how frequently Apple grasps for fallacious arguments just so they don't have to admit that they were wrong. Not a Humble corporation.
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Well no Duh! Apple took a year old phone, slapped 2 pieces of upgraded hardware and sold it as new. The sad part is that its not faster in every department. If there gonna sell a year old phone as new, they better have the stats to support it.
The funny part is a Lot of Apple customers wont admit it, but they really want a bigger screen. So Apple can do either of 2 things, make the iPhone 5 with a 4.5inch screen in which case I will love to watch all the iSheep who said that they loved having a small phone squirm. Or keep it small to save face and make the iSheep suffer with the tiny ass screen.
I love watching how frequently Apple grasps for fallacious arguments just so they don't have to admit that they were wrong. Not a Humble corporation.
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What are you taking about? The 4S is a beast. It owns in the spec department. No denying that. And who says all the "iSheep" want small screens? Read more Apple forums - there are varying opinions. A big screen was one of the most wanted things for the 4S. Also, what do you mean "The sad part is that its not faster in every department."? Are you talking about whether the 4S was faster in every department than the 4? Cuz it is. EVERYTHING on the 4S is speedier than the 4, whether it's app loading, games, animations, browsing, even data speeds.
Get off your high-horse, and realize that the Nexus and iPhone 4S are basically head to head. No one is better than the other - it all depends on what you want. Both have very distinct and exclusive features that you can't replicate on the opposing handset. It comes down to what you need. Both are amazing.

i may get another phone...

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/03/18/htc-one-x-for-sprint-details-surface-rumored-to-be-codenamed-jet-and-possibly-arriving-in-june/
THIS looks tasty and i live in pittsburgh so lte should be soon.
Doesn't look too bad. Curious how much it's going to weigh.
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Heyyy another Pittsburgher lol. You are correct, we were relatively early in the wimax roll out, so I expect a similar timeline for LTE.
I'm waiting for S3 confirmation though, I'm pretty loyal to Samsung.
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Nice Phone ...But Im waitin on the Quad Cores and I had HTC for a long time but I think Im gonna stick with Sammy...Time will tell...
ill prbly have both the s3 and 1x also you do realize this is a dualcore a15 not an a9 and the lte chip is built in so MUCH better battery life. This is a Krait http://www.anandtech.com/show/4170/qualcomms-announces-krait-cpu-the-successor-to-scorpion
it is one bad piece of silicon.
Also with its upgraded graphics it may not be as fast as the exy gen 2 but seeing as how it will be a much more common chip for both at&t sprint and prbly verizon this will make for much faster rom development between the 3 as only the modem should be different.
Nice I've never owned an HTC but I have always liked them, this phone looks sweet!
HTC has one big problem. Some of their drivers have been abysmal in the past.
They put together nice hardware, always. Then they don't use its features. Like gpu acceleration.
I've always owned htc devices since original HTC Touch. Epic Touch was my first Sammy device. And it's like night and day in terms of how snappy it is, compared to say - evo 3d (which I still own, and just used it for about 3 weeks when my old epic touch was in repair.)
Even those T-mob gs2 are apparently much snappier than anything HTC put out with the same scorpion chipset - Sammy just know to properly optimize drivers and deliver the full power of the hardware.
Looks like a nice device but I think I will be sticking with my epic touch for a while.
nabbed you also cant forget sense was not gpu aceled thats part of it. even if they had good drivers. it wouldnt of made a diff
Ewww no best option is
Gnex > SGS3 > The next Nexus > SGS4
^ See the cycle ._.
iSaint said:
Ewww no best option is
Gnex > SGS3 > The next Nexus > SGS4
^ See the cycle ._.
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GN is a downgrade compared to Epic touch - slower gpu and lower res camera.
This design decision by Google has always baffled me - let's make our brand new flagship phone slower than the 10 months old phone by the same manufacturer.
Just wanted to chime in.
1. Quad Core is not actually always better. The phone OS is not optimized for it yet. So, you are really running a 4 cylinder engine on 2. Plus, the current quad cores use the previous generations technology. I read an article that said the new s4 processors are 40 percent more powerful per core over the tegra 3. So, this dual core is faster and more advanced than the tegra 3.
Another way to look at it is the 4 banger in my AUDI is faster than the V6 in your Taurus.
2. The new phone doesn't look anything like the one in the pic. That is a One X. Sprint is not getting the ONE X.
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GN is a downgrade compared to Epic touch - slower gpu and lower res camera.
This design decision by Google has always baffled me - let's make our brand new flagship phone slower than the 10 months old phone by the same manufacturer.
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Like the Post above me explains google chooses hardware that best fits and utilizes their software ...
Why do you think the iPhone has ****ty specs but is still one of (if not the best) smartphone on the market ?
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Like the Post above me explains google chooses hardware that best fits and utilizes their software ...
Why do you think the iPhone has ****ty specs but is still one of (if not the best) smartphone on the market ?
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Using lower spec hardware is better? You now assemble hardware to fit the software?
"Oh yeah, this 5mp camera is much hotter than that cranky old 8mp camera!
Oh wait, the image quality is worse? But you see, the lower the megapixel count, the faster it snaps."
Iphone has bad hardware but is one of the best, if not the best, phones?
Man, it's like you take logic and fact, then turn it all upside down.
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.. Hardware isn't everything...
Another pittsburgher here, I am going to wait for the s3 also. The one x looks great but the s3 will probably be alot more optimized. I just hope they put out the white one at launch instead of waiting a month or two after launch.
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Using lower spec hardware is better? You now assemble hardware to fit the software?
"Oh yeah, this 5mp camera is much hotter than that cranky old 8mp camera!
Oh wait, the image quality is worse? But you see, the lower the megapixel count, the faster it snaps."
Iphone has bad hardware but is one of the best, if not the best, phones?
Man, it's like you take logic and fact, then turn it all upside down.
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the iPhone has really good hardware. Besides that point, the primary reason iOS performs so well (besides the steller hardware) is that that iOS does more RealTime prioritizing. It essentially gives the current task top priority, which is why iOS can't do real multi tasking, they suspend apps and then resume them as needed (Android does this too, albeit slightly different - onPause onResume, etc).
So the combination of the iPhone's good hardware with high prio. for the foreground tasks is why their OS is super snappy (this could be called great design, and they definitely utilize their hardware to the max for rendering effects and what not)
It has nothing to do with Objective-C vs Java either, as some people think. Ever since the dalvik VM has adopted JIT, the performance differences between the languages is minimal
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Using lower spec hardware is better? You now assemble hardware to fit the software?
"Oh yeah, this 5mp camera is much hotter than that cranky old 8mp camera!
Oh wait, the image quality is worse? But you see, the lower the megapixel count, the faster it snaps."
Iphone has bad hardware but is one of the best, if not the best, phones?
Man, it's like you take logic and fact, then turn it all upside down.
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i hate to break it to you but megapixels doesnt equal image quality, my nexus s 4g blows the water out of my photons 8mp camera. samsung makes really decent cameras. same goes for teh iphone, it has hands down one of the BEST image sensors in the market for phones.
so even though the iphone 4's camera is 5MP's i would honestly stack it up against almost any android phone currently out in terms of picture quality. now if your looking for bigger images then yea grab that 8mp camera.
the reason why apple doesnt need to have the best hardware out there every 6 months is because they only have at most 6 (current gen iphone, ipad and itouch plus previous gen) platforms to write iOS for, and they do a VERY good job of optimizing the code for em all. companies like samsung or htc have a crapload of devices flooding the market each one more different than the last thus making it hard to make sure ics runs amazingly great on one platform and then starting the next. despite having older hardware and crappy features (IMO) the iphone isnt still around because its a social thing, there is actually some benefits.
P.S. i would like to state that i am a former iphone 3g owner, and i will never go back to that crap, if android collapses ill go wp7 before ios again
No thanks. I like seeing my phone screen in the day time
Im sold if the bootloader is unlocked and it comes in black.

The One X finally won a comparison with the GS3

In the Engadget summer buying guide they chose the One X as the top phone. Enjoy the one publication win. :highfive:
And v3 will edit with lots more shortly personally who has the biggest nob doesn't bother me but hey whatever floats your boat
http://m.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/review/2184581/htc-vs-samsung-galaxy-s3-head-head-review
http://www.t3.com/features/samsung-galaxy-s3-vs-htc-one-x/HTC-One-X-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-S3-Part-3
Really bored now
I personally like both but neither get me sexually excited but as I said different strokes
The one x is just a laggy Quadcore HTC Sense only htc can make them soon laggggy
Running PARANOID ANDROID RC2 and it doesn't lag at all.
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Running Stock and no lag. Must be User Error.
Same here, stock and no lag
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Not that it matters, but I've already read at least 10 comparisons with the final result being in favour of the HTC one X.
so 'finally' is a bit redundant
you people are crazy, the OP is an SGS3 fan and he thinks we are supposed to be fooled by the stupid thread title
no its not one, the One X was actually favored by over than 50% of the online media, although this is not the first time Engadget said this
in their SGS3 review they talked more about the One X than the s3
i don't get it seriously people, do you suffer from a inferiority complex that force you to make such ridiculous posts in the One X forum?
The One X beats the SGS 3 in everything except the GPU and Battery, there is nothing more to say here!
have we not had enough of these threads already
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Just dont know why always this f****g reviews or comparisons start with: " Android rivals for Apple's iPhone "
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Guys, it was the HTC One XL that won the comparison. Snapdragon S4 is awesome with excellent performance, great battery life and LTE.
The international tegra3 OneX didn't win anything. Unfortunately, It's a terrible chip set with low performance, low battery life, causes "overheat" battery status frequently, runs on an old Linux kernel, and slows to a crawl when you fill up the storage.
Comparing the American hoxl with the American sgs3: they have the same hardware except the sgs3 has double the ram, which means that it doesn't have the multitasking problems of the hoxl.
However, if you ignore the poor multitasking, the software on the HTC side is imo better than touchwiz when it comes to look and feel - which was one of engadgets reasons for preferring it. They praised the inclusion of a multitasking button instead of a menu button which is funny because all of the custom roms have remapped the buttons!, so they must really enjoy seeing the 3 dot button wasting screen space everwhere
At the end of the day, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Software wise, I'm looking forward to a stable CM10 on my gs3. So for me only hardware matters.
so really what should we do in here?
we need a mod that can really take action
this is getting ridiculous
Plain ridiculous....
If it is so terrible, why google put it into nexus then and not exynos?
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so really what should we do in here?
we need a mod that can really take action
this is getting ridiculous
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get the strawberries and cream out and have a picnic i think!!!!!:silly:
OP has got nought better to do than masturbate furiously and cry to him self in the corner lol!!!!
I'm getting sick of people defending and fighting for their brand. where ever we go we can see a Apple vs. Android, Samsung vs. i-phone, HOX vs, SGS3 cat fight. It's just a smart phone for god sake. It's not like your serving your dark master...
I thought the original post smelt more fishy than Margaret Thatcher's secret garden!!!!:silly:
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I'm bored at work so will continue to fill useless threads like this with senseless bull**** until the mods close it. Freeze dried macaque monkey anyone????
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Guys, it was the HTC One XL that won the comparison. Snapdragon S4 is awesome with excellent performance, great battery life and LTE.
The international tegra3 OneX didn't win anything. Unfortunately, It's a terrible chip set with low performance, low battery life, causes "overheat" battery status frequently, runs on an old Linux kernel, and slows to a crawl when you fill up the storage.
Comparing the American hoxl with the American sgs3: they have the same hardware except the sgs3 has double the ram, which means that it doesn't have the multitasking problems of the hoxl.
However, if you ignore the poor multitasking, the software on the HTC side is imo better than touchwiz when it comes to look and feel - which was one of engadgets reasons for preferring it. They praised the inclusion of a multitasking button instead of a menu button which is funny because all of the custom roms have remapped the buttons!, so they must really enjoy seeing the 3 dot button wasting screen space everwhere
At the end of the day, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Software wise, I'm looking forward to a stable CM10 on my gs3. So for me only hardware matters.
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If u think that makers of GTX 680 (Nvidia) can be crushed so easily then u r wrong..
U have a pentile display which has ink marks n black clipping n color banding issues..We HOX owners don't even piss on such displays coz the color of it is also appear grey on it. .
The first thing u look at n keep looking at the whole time is the screen n when its that ****ty then nobody gives a damn..
The S3 is officially the ugliest looking phone ever. N this is supported by Android Police,Engadget etc..
The support of tegra 3 is gonna be way Better coz its on so many devices now including Nexus 7. . N with Microsoft surface also coming out with tegra 3 we might e able to port windows 8 to HOX. .
Nobody gives a damn to exynos. .
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I looked at a SGS3 display vs the HOX and whilst the HOX display is sharper, brighter and has better colors, the SGS3 display is pretty good, you hardly notice it's pentile unless you go looking for it. The color banding is not a display issue but a software choice made by Samsung to increase sharpness, it is called mdnie and the SGS2 at least had many different profiles (for different apps/lighting situation), so there never would be banding in the galery
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I looked at a SGS3 display vs the HOX and whilst the HOX display is sharper, brighter and has better colors, the SGS3 display is pretty good, you hardly notice it's pentile unless you go looking for it. The color banding is not a display issue but a software choice made by Samsung to increase sharpness, it is called mdnie and the SGS2 at least had many different profiles (for different apps/lighting situation), so there never would be banding in the galery
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Apparently its not a software issue..in the pentile arrangement the sub pixels are shared between pixels..Supercurio is a developer here n he tried to fix this issue for months on Galaxy Note but couldn't even improve it. Let alone fixing it n ultimately he gave up n the thread was closed. .
N u r comparing it to S2 !!!!!!!!... s2 has an RGB display n is way better than Note n s3 crap. .
N s2 is the best phone from Samsung's stable til now ..
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[Q] Epic Touch+Icecream OR Galaxy Nexus+JB

ok , first up phones will be used on a normal 3G network , not LTE and stuff.
right i am confused atm , using a S1.
used a epic touch for a few hours and loved it ,
but now i am in a dilemma over which phone to get from among Galaxy Nexus and Epic Touch.
can you guyz help me decide , my usage will be normal , No gaming or once a while may be , loads of surfing , emails , calls , smses , need decent battery life .
i am still inclined towards S2 epic touch owing to following observations ( i may be wrong so gimme some margin of error )
first up didnt find nexus as appealing in looks as is s2
its screen space is far lesser as compared to s2 as a lot of area is taken up by the nav bar in nexus
also the nexus screen looks smaller in width as compared to s2 despite being bigger in size ( atleast to me )
the processor of s2 is superior as compared to the type of processor in nexus , there was visible lag on home screens on nexus while a live wallpaper was being used
the camera quality is better in epic and i need camera coz i like to take snaps every now and then of my kids.
battery is abysmal on nexus ( at least thats what i have heard ) , and as far as JB is concerned when you are rooted you can install JB in a jiffy on S2 too
thanks for reading
waiting for responses.
Epic touch plus GB.
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Thanks no better combo than epic touch and EL29
I had a Sprint Nexus for a little while, but I sold it and came back to my E4GT. I've run Calk's 3.0 GB ROM on it for a long time, but the latest CM10 JB ROM seems stable enough now. Get the Epic Touch and you can run GB, ICS, or JB - best of all worlds!
Epic 4G Touch all daaay!
e4gt+cm10 jb.. ridiculous speeds-. boot up time is like 18-21sec., google chrome is retarded fast, gps locks in seconds.. crazy crazy good phone
This thread is likely to be biased, you are in the epic forums after all.
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I too would go with the e4gt over a CDMA nexus... I'll take a gsm nexus over both all day though....
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I too would go with the e4gt over a CDMA nexus... I'll take a gsm nexus over both all day though....
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Really? May o ask why?
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Why not just wait for the Note ll? Jb right out of the box.
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Really? May o ask why?
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Because the CDMA nexus receives updates via carrier due to the proprietary CDMA blobs needed, hence they do not have official aosp support from Google. The difference being an update to jb the day after Google io for gsm nexuses compared to the sprint one which got it what, late last week... personally if I'm getting a nexus device I want my carrier out of the update picture, and official aosp support so it'll be super easy to compile my own aosp/cm/aokp/etc... roms...
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Depends on how you feel about touchwiz compared to aosp.
My mom got the galaxy nexus for t-mobile and at first I was envious but then I used it and was unimpressed. Sure it was fast but Samsung has spent a lot of time making the OS easier to use and google has less experience
If my phone were more of a toy than a tool I might feel differently but I most definitely need it as a tool.
So I vote e4gt.
I don't hate touch wiz as much as many of the users do, and I agree its pretty simple as well. So no aversions there.
I did my own research and found that nexus's hardware ain't good as s2.
I am now totally inclined towards PS2 as well.
I know its kinna kiddish to ask but why do people say that black s2 works better than white. What's the basis of this comment apart from the fact that white gets scratched quickly.
Regards and thanks to all for chipping in.
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I sold my epic touch and have a gsm galaxy nexus and a straight talk sim on the way. Tired of sprints horrible network and the epic touch not being officially supported by cyanogenmod. I know the devs work hard but I am looking forward to having a true aosp device.
I have a black and my wife has the white. There is NO difference other than color.
As far as the OP, I've messed around with my bosses VZW nexus, it doesn't compare to the E4GT. And don't listen to the gingerbread nazis. There is nothing wrong with ICS. JB on the other hand isn't quite there yet for daily driver status.
I'm not going to argue the merits of ICS here, just saying it's not as bad as a small group of very vocal people make it out to be. Lots of very good roms are available for ICS, where GB development is pretty much totally dead.
ok
got to compare both the phones today.
all i can say that apart from a moderately better screen , the galaxy nexus is nowhere near S2, and i am saying this after trying out many things on both the handsets.
Didnt like the look and feel of Nexus , too bland ,
S2 is pretty sleek and sexy
ran a live wallpaper on both and did home screen scolling , lol exynos processor kills the T whatever processor is there in nexus.
and those who are betting on a fast update , LOL the updates are pushed via sprint if i am correct so they can never hit the phone before 2 or 3 months
so I am done : S2 that too white for me.
thanks guyz , love the XDA community
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ok
got to compare both the phones today.
all i can say that apart from a moderately better screen , the galaxy nexus is nowhere near S2, and i am saying this after trying out many things on both the handsets.
Didnt like the look and feel of Nexus , too bland ,
S2 is pretty sleek and sexy
ran a live wallpaper on both and did home screen scolling , lol exynos processor kills the T whatever processor is there in nexus.
and those who are betting on a fast update , LOL the updates are pushed via sprint if i am correct so they can never hit the phone before 2 or 3 months
so I am done : S2 that too white for me.
thanks guyz , love the XDA community
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Why not the S3? Better than both of those.
good point , but somehow if i wanna go to S3 then would rather go to Note 2.
and S2 am getting for the right price as well
My GF has the Verizon Gnex with Codename(Android) JB 4.1.1 on it. I just got this Sprint E4GT and I'm running CM10 alpha 5.3.
The question comes down to hardware or software. The Gnex with CNA 4.1.1 ROM is amazing. You can do so much with it and it's rock stable. Its CPU/GPU combo aren't as fast as the E4GT but you said you're not playing games.
The 720p SAMOLED on the Gnex is really nice to surf on.
Plus, you don't have to worry about any Odin crap when flashing and updating. It's so much easier and less complicated.
Go look in the Gnex forums, they have 3-5x the developer support of this phone. I also have CNA 4.1.1 running on a Nexus S and pretty dang smooth considering how old the hardware is. You can't beat the software future-proofness of a Nexus phone.
I also used to own an HTC Evo and HTC Evo 3D. Both HTC were easier to flash than the Galaxy line. You could easily interchange kernels and ROMs without any complexity or worries about bricking your phone (on both HTC and Nexus). What is up with this Odin thing?
But, if you want better CPU/GPU, the E4GT is better, but the screen isn't as good as the Gnex 720p screen.
My ideal phone would be a 5" Nexus. C'mon Santa Google, ring in the new year and shove it up Apple's bunghole!
hmmm.. now i donno i am havin second thoughts , although i justy love S2 , but one thing constantly bugging me is that i am gonna buy an older phone i guess just about a year older.
as far as hardware is concerned well , i want my phone to be super smooth , with 0 lag , i mean i would hate lag even scrolling thru the youtube videos
larger screen is a myth in nexus as the nav bar effectively negates the 4.6 size , may be makes it a little lesser than epic T.
the other thing that is making me think is the display quality , i know that SAmoled Plus is better any day , and Gorilla glass makes it super awesome in Epic T ,
whereas the higher resolution is the only advantage i can see in Nexus , but without the PLUS and with oleophobic coating it loses the points that it scores. ( as far as my thinking goes )
Although i have taken the plunge and got s2
but a few of my pals are in the same boat and i am not able to convince them.
Post your views about my query folks
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