I'm a huge gaming nut, I game on my pc, xbox360, ps3 and on my android phones. I've noticed that it doesn't take much time for the note 3 and it's gpu/cpu to heat up to the point where it's almost to hot to hold. This wasn't a problem on the note2 and it's exnyos cpu, I'm loving the slimness of the phone but thinking that's also why it gets hot soo fast.
I generally don't play too long, mostly 15-20 minute sessions of dead trigger 2, Asphalt 8 or Riptide 2. Anyone else notice this? I'm thinking maybe when the ZL battery comes thru and the extra bulkiness it will take a bit longer to heat up. That or maybe it's time for companies like Seidio,Otterbox etc to make some liquid cooled phone cases lol
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Found this out playing candy crush of all things. Phone got pretty hot in a short period of time.
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I suppose it depends on the game but my GN3 doesnt't get too hot playing the two games you mentioned and it's over clocked. I'm on Darthstalker 3.0 with leankernal if that makes any difference.
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How long are you playing the games? I'm not even overclocking, I'm on Omega rom with compulsion kernel. It's not a huge deal to me and don't think it happens all the time, could be the amount of apps installed on my phone too..
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Try the SaberN3 Kernel.... OC to 2.6 & all good...
Rogers GN3 SM-N900W8 Jedi Elite V3.1 OC-2.6gHz & Buttery Smooooth
Don't charge your phone while playing and it will run much cooler
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I'm not playing with the phone charging, matter of fact I just played about 4 missions on dead trigger 2 and it's already starting to get too hot. It's gotta be the snapdragon chip, none of my other phones have ever gotten this hot in soo little time.
Again I haven't overclocked or play while charging ever. This phone needs a water cooling case for reals lol
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Remove mpdecision from /system/bin (but just rename it.. Add "00" to the beginning or something) and run with all 4 cores online. You will find you get better battery life and your device will not ramp as much.
This is what I do personally...
Ondemand
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up_threshold - 95
sampling_rate - 20000
Stock has up_threshold at 85 or 90 if I'm not mistaken, way too aggressive for a processor of this caliber.
And mpdecision is way too aggressive. I don't need all 4 CPUs spinning up to max when I open my messages app.
Also, edit your /system/etc/init.qcom.post_boot.sh file to have this line it (see picture)
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Now that's a reply that looks helpful, I'll do all that test out some games and report back!
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Here is my battery life in a typical day with that setup I just described...
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Wow!
Did everything you said in your earlier post and I'm noticing it running way cooler now. Normally after 3-4 missions on dead trigger 2 it's getting pretty hot near the camera when holding it in landscape mode, now it just seems to idle normally.
So before I tweaked my system root and set cpu settings was it only utilizing 1 or 2 cores thus stressing more and making the snapdragon soc run hotter? These games are very graphic intensive and could use extra cores running to keep everything running more smoothly and cooler (which you have now achieved developmrntbro!!)
I advise anyone experiencing what I was dealing with to do the same and be amazed how much better it runs now, thanks again for the knowledge :good:
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Trying this out as well. I don't game, but I do a lot of downloading & streaming, and the phone does tend to get very hot during. I did this about an hour ago, I'm torrenting and so far it's still not hot and the battery isn't flying out the window like it usually would be. Nice!
wow this sounds a really good idea. did anyone just include this mod directly in their rom?
So if we have 4 cores why not take advantage of all 4 from the get go instead of having to do this mod?
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So if we have 4 cores why not take advantage of all 4 from the get go instead of having to do this mod?
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I'm sure they all do run at some point, but this little tweak/mod seems to make them perform and work together better. The edits take less than 2 minutes honestly, it just took me a sec to find the part to add that additional line is all lol
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So if we have 4 cores why not take advantage of all 4 from the get go instead of having to do this mod?
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Thanks for clarification... Will try this out!
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Yes very useful mod!
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My init.qcom.post _ boot.sh file looks different from the screenshot earlier in this thread. Where would I add that line? Why is it different?
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My Note 3 doesn't get hot like yours, unless I play a game such as Madden 25 over a 40 minute period, then it's moderately hot, nothing compared to my previous phones, and that list includes the Note 2. I love everything about this Note 3 except the camera, it has a hard time focusing on some things close up, and sometimes at a distance too, I resent the camera, I did see in another thread that I am not the only one with this problem, only problem is I did not wait for the root de la vega or else I would've ordered a replacement already.........
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My init.qcom.post _ boot.sh file looks different from the screenshot earlier in this thread. Where would I add that line? Why is it different?
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Press enter at the end of the line and add the text posted. Mine looked like that too. Also you have to edit the mpdecision text as mentioned.
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I just added a data plan , I was using the phone exclusively on WiFi,I noticed the device gets real warm when using the phone when the mobile data is on(by using the phone I mean, surfing web, streaming music and GPS navigation)
Is that a common problem, or it's just with my device, that I should seek help for?
Btw,I upgraded to ics through kies last month....
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Do you have an app that tells you your device temp. It could be normal, but it's hard knowing if you don't know the actual temp.
I've noticed when using the radio vs WiFi, my device runs warmer. High 80's, sometimes higher if I'm running it a lot. WiFi always seems to run cooler.
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As long is it is not burning your hand, then it's perfectly fine. Most phones tend to warm up during use. You can perhaps try a different kernel if you are rooted and undervolt, some people claim it helps. If not then don't even stress unless it hurts to hold the phone.
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Thank you guys,I just downloaded a battery indicator app which shows the temperature, and I'm gonna keep an eye on it,
I've heard that temp should not exceed 130
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Do you have an app that tells you your device temp. It could be normal, but it's hard knowing if you don't know the actual temp.
I've noticed when using the radio vs WiFi, my device runs warmer. High 80's, sometimes higher if I'm running it a lot. WiFi always seems to run cooler.
The temp definitely gets Warner than the high 80s F ....
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i fried an egg on mine yesterday
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i fried an egg on mine yesterday
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Did you find a month old thread just to say that? You must be bored
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I used to have problems with mine getting very hot but this would only happen if I was using GPS for extended periods of time.
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Hey guys wondering if anyone else had this issue? Got the Galaxy S3 and its runs pretty hot. Not like the whole phone but like half of it mostly where the home button is but in the back.
Don't know what it is. Wanted to know if anyone else was experiencing this or if its kernel related/ROM related.
I've tried switching ROMs, Kernels, Governors, Schedulers and still nothing. Also undervolting and underclocking. Right now I'm running Casper's AOKP build 9/20 and its running beautifullyt except for this heating issue.
Let's see if anyone else is having the same as me or can offer help.
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I'm running stock, rooted, stock kernel. It heats up when I'm gaming or doing something CPU intensive. Never had a problem because of it though. I've seen other threads where this is pretty much considered normal.
I mean I had a GNex before this and it did used to get warm in the back when I used to surf the web or use the phone but once I rooted and changed kernels, undervolted and underclocked, I could do anything and it wouldn't get hot.
Since I'm fairly new to the GS3 I just figured I post it on here just to see if this was how the phone ran typically
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Yeah my gets hot too 47c
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If I have the hot spot on, and I am using it quite a bit, it will get quite warm. Usually up into the mid 40's.
Yeah so I'm guessing I'm not the only one lol that's good. Hopefully a kernel or something can make this go away. If not I'm getting a case
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I can confirm that using the lean kernel did help a bit. Still gets hot though....time to get a new case
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Im over clocked ktoonsez kernel, and never had that issue. Only while 3d gaming does it normally get hot or during benchmarking.
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For me the only time my gs3 got hot was when i first got the phone and it was restoring all the apps from the market and when playing gta 3 other then that my phone doesnt heat up. When surfing internet it doesnt get hot but just a little warm. I do use a tpu case
Like its weird. When I'm not using the phone is perfectly fine. When I text or sometimes use WiFi its fine. And also when my battery is like under 30% its fine. But other times like when its full, it gets really hot. I'm using lean kernel ATM.
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Like its weird. When I'm not using the phone is perfectly fine. When I text or sometimes use WiFi its fine. And also when my battery is like under 30% its fine. But other times like when its full, it gets really hot. I'm using lean kernel ATM.
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Like with my phone as I type im full battery right now, and its cool as freon. And im over clocked. If your still under warranty then why dont you swap it out if its that hot. Otherwise I wouldnt worry about it too much.
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Like with my phone as I type im full battery right now, and its cool as freon. And im over clocked. If your still under warranty then why dont you swap it out if its that hot. Otherwise I wouldnt worry about it too much.
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Like right now I'm at 1.5ghz interactive sio and its warm. I'm at like 85% battery. Like I just don't understand it lol but I'm just gonna buy a case so I won't feel it as much...
What ROM are you running ATM?
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Like right now I'm at 1.5ghz interactive sio and its warm. I'm at like 85% battery. Like I just don't understand it lol but I'm just gonna buy a case so I won't feel it as much...
What ROM are you running ATM?
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Im on Wicked v5 Rom / ktoonsez kernel
Pretty good batt, and no heating issues. Been using this combo for a while now. Which case are you considering?
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Alright I'm back to report. I'm still on AOKP running Ktoonz Kernel and no undervolting or over clocking. Its at 1.3 and 540 MHz and its running fine without getting too hot.
BIT I have to add I took my SD card OUT. Yes I noticed that the phone was getting hot where the sd was located so I took it out. Idk if its just me but this helped a lot. Its not running as hot as it used to be.
Anyone want to test that out as well? Would be helpful. Thanks
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Alright I'm back to report. I'm still on AOKP running Ktoonz Kernel and no undervolting or over clocking. Its at 1.3 and 540 MHz and its running fine without getting too hot.
BIT I have to add I took my SD card OUT. Yes I noticed that the phone was getting hot where the sd was located so I took it out. Idk if its just me but this helped a lot. Its not running as hot as it used to be.
Anyone want to test that out as well? Would be helpful. Thanks
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that would kinda make sense because when i use the adapter on the micro sd and put that in the computer and put some roms and some videos on it id say maybe 10 min to do all that. and then when i retrieve and go to put in the phone its really hot. so it could have something to do with that
Yeah I'm not sure. I mean its still hot I'm not going to lie bit its not as hot as it used to be. When I had it in there it was like burning hot now its just warm.
I wonder what it is really...
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OK so I know pie devices get relatively hot, but when just having my screen on and typing on here or using root explorer it goes up to some 90 degrees. And it just concerns me because my galaxy s2 hardly guys 90 even while playing intensive games.
I'm just curious if 90 is normal or if I should get a new device through warranty.
Thanks everyone.
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OK so I know pie devices get relatively hot, but when just having my screen on and typing on here or using root explorer it goes up to some 90 degrees. And it just concerns me because my galaxy s2 hardly guys 90 even while playing intensive games.
I'm just curious if 90 is normal or if I should get a new device through warranty.
Thanks everyone.
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When I was using SetCPU, I saw mine hovered between 80-90 most of the time. If it is bothering your hand, put a case on it. I use an Otterbox Defender and I can feel the heat through the case sometimes.
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When I was using SetCPU, I saw mine hovered between 80-90 most of the time. If it is bothering your hand, put a case on it. I use an Otterbox Defender and I can feel the heat through the case sometimes.
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It's not bothering me as in terms of heating my hand, it bothers me in thinking my phone isn't going to last long at all -.-
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Like right now I'm just browsing xda and texting and I'm at 91 -.-
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I'm switching between texts, Reddit, and tapatalk and I'm at 93°
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In my experience this generally hapoens either after a new rom flash or just at random (seemingly). But it has always eventually calmed down and stays cool after that.
I suspect it is searching for mor something....like updating libraries of songs and whatnot. Seems like it occasionally gets stuck and when you add additional load it easilyy heats up. Try using Show CPU Use in dev options and keep an eye on the top few processes while it heats up. May give you an idea as to the real cause.
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In my experience this generally hapoens either after a new rom flash or just at random (seemingly). But it has always eventually calmed down and stays cool after that.
I suspect it is searching for mor something....like updating libraries of songs and whatnot. Seems like it occasionally gets stuck and when you add additional load it easilyy heats up. Try using Show CPU Use in dev options and keep an eye on the top few processes while it heats up. May give you an idea as to the real cause.
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That's absolute genius. Thanks doc never even thought of that, I was using CPU spy but it was very hard to tell.
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Cpu spy is great for its intended use, but quickly becomes limited in what it can tell you.
Don't praise too much too soon! It may not yeild any useful info! But it is a good option to try.
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I hope you are talking about 90f and not 90c...because if your phone gets to 90c I don't know how it even operates.
Using system tuner pro.. My temperature is between 36c-44c
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DocHoliday77 said:
Cpu spy is great for its intended use, but quickly becomes limited in what it can tell you.
Don't praise too much too soon! It may not yeild any useful info! But it is a good option to try.
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after enabling what you had said, I couldn't notice anything out of the ordinary. Surfaceflinger was the only one that was always up. But that's absolutely needed. I'm hoping it settles down after about a week.
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I hope you are talking about 90f and not 90c...because if your phone gets to 90c I don't know how it even operates.
Using system tuner pro.. My temperature is between 36c-44c
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And yes it's Fahrenheit not Celsius. I didn't know how to spell "Fahrenheit" and was too lazy to look it up then
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Everything is supposed to load much faster. It's getting rave reviews in the playstore. Is it really that noticeable or placebo effect?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lcis.seeder
Here's the article i found it from: http://phandroid.com/2013/01/03/see...lag-from-rooted-android-devices-does-it-work/
I have it loaded. It really does make difference. :thumbup:
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Sometimes when I exit an app and go back to home (stock) it takes a moment to load up. Does that help with that? And the app drawer lol
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Sometimes when I exit an app and go back to home (stock) it takes a moment to load up. Does that help with that? And the app drawer lol
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Maybe. I might try the app.
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Give it a try, I promise you will notice a difference.
Holy cow! I was skeptical but gave it a shot to support good devs. I am astonished how much of a difference it made.
Definitely worth the purchase.
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Whoa! I think I just shat myself. This is like project butter on roids. I guess this will hold me over till JB
Also, this should be integrated in future roms.
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Jesus. This thing kicks some serious ass.
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I haven't noticed much of a difference, but I attribute that to the performance and capabilities of this phone. It probably works great with lower end or old phones.
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I haven't noticed much of a difference, but I attribute that to the performance and capabilities of this phone. It probably works great with lower end or old phones.
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^ this
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O... M... G... This app.... is amazing!
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At first I noticed no difference but I ran a few test like turning animations off and running apps with and without seeder then did the same with animations on and I do notice a slight speed up when opening apps. Not a huge difference because like someone said this phone is already a speed demon, but there is a slight increase, but then again could be placebo lol.
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At first I noticed no difference but I ran a few test like turning animations off and running apps with and without seeder then did the same with animations on and I do notice a slight speed up when opening apps. Not a huge difference because like someone said this phone is already a speed demon, but there is a slight increase, but then again could be placebo lol.
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I feel the same way. I can't really tell if it's making much of a difference cause this phone is already so fast. But I installed it on my nexus 7 as well so we'll see...
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At first I noticed no difference but I ran a few test like turning animations off and running apps with and without seeder then did the same with animations on and I do notice a slight speed up when opening apps. Not a huge difference because like someone said this phone is already a speed demon, but there is a slight increase, but then again could be placebo lol.
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I'm getting smoother transitions which means I practically have jellybean with that app installed that s the biggest difference I've noticed but it still wasn't that big but definitely worth the dollar fifty
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I don't know bout you guys but it does take up more battery, left it over night off the charger when from 64% to 52%
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I don't know bout you guys but it does take up more battery, left it over night off the charger when from 64% to 52%
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Took it off charger at 100% about 45 minutes ago. Haven't done much of anything and down to 91%.
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Ya I noticed it uses a lil more battery as well. Gonna uninstall for now, but I'll be watching its development.
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I posted this on another topic as well that was discussing the seeder app. This is straight from a CM Dev on G+.
" The entropy pool stuff is bull****. The only users of /dev/random are libcrypto (used for cryptographic operations like SSL connections, ssh key generation, and so on), wpa_supplicant/hostapd (to generate WEP/WPA keys while in AP mode), and the libraries that generate random partition IDs when you do an ext2/3/4 format. None of those 3 users are in the path of app execution, so feeding random from urandom does nothing except make random... well... less random"
A lot of tech talk but he goes on "The only reason devices feel faster is because by constantly polling the PRNG, it keeps the device's I/O in constant use (which in turn, depending on device, will make the CPU stick to higher clock frequencies to keep up)"[/QUOTE]
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I posted this on another topic as well that was discussing the seeder app. This is straight from a CM Dev on G+
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How is this useful? To anyone wondering if it will work or is curious: install the free apk on xda. Try it out. If it helps: great keep using it. If you want, buy the play store version to support the dev. If it doesn't work, good you didn't waste your money now you can go spend your buck and some change on a pack of gum or a soda.
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How is this useful? To anyone wondering if it will work or is curious: install the free apk on xda. Try it out. If it helps: great keep using it. If you want, buy the play store version to support the dev. If it doesn't work, good you didn't waste your money now you can go spend your buck and some change on a pack of gum or a soda.
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I'm sure most people here understand that concept. Were just discussing. And I think it's pretty useful to hear an experienced devs opinion on an app for our phones I'm sure he understands what goes in with our phones better than we do
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032&nocache=1
Worth the plunge? Still not rooted since I don't see the need as of yet...
Seems like it's snappier. Could just be perception but check it out and see.
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I have a very noticeable difference.
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Seeder Entropy Generator is such a cool damned name who cares?
found to be useless
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile...rooted-android-phones-proven-useless-2013014/
Thanks T3. I was half tempted to try it.
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Well sorry but it definitely makes my system faster no matter what these other people say. I find for instance that Tapatalk can get hung up quite easily but when I run this mod forums load instantly every time.
So, try it out and see for yourself.
Or instead of using the app (since it murders the battery life) you could just change the min frequency of your CPU to like, 600mhz or higher and it does the same thing as this app
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Or instead of using the app (since it murders the battery life) you could just change the min frequency of your CPU to like, 600mhz or higher and it does the same thing as this app
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No it doesnt do the same thing. I have my cpu set at 1800 performance and this mod clearly makes a difference above and beyond that.
And it may burn battery a bit faster but it doesn't "murder" your battery. I've been heavily using my phone with the mod on for 6 hours and have used about 40% of the battery. Pretty normal burn rate for browsing, texting and watching netflix non stop.
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