Hi everyone.
New to this forum so hope im posting in the right place.
I've just got the new note 10.1 2014 edition. I love the design and the screen, but I've got two major issues.
1. I use the excellent LectureNotes app pretty much every day. On my original note 10.1, it ran perfectly and really smoothly. On the new one it lags so badly it's unusable. For example, a pen stroke appears 2 seconds after I draw it. On the original note it was instantaneous. Zooming out to see a whole page takes about 5 seconds on the new note and stutters. On the old note, it was smooth and took about a second.
2. The battery drops so fast it's unbelievable. I've just watched it drop by 8% in 4 minutes when it was updating some apps from google play. It's dropped by over 20% in about 10-15 minutes.
I've done the updates, and then done a factory reset. These issues were there both before and after the factory reset.
Have I got a faulty tablet, or is this just what it's like?
Thanks a lot
looks like something is wrong wit the battery.... i have mine for almost 3 weeks (bought at Spain) and nothing in terms of malfunctioning HW
Your battery usage seems extreme did you check to see what's using your battery? I easily get a full day with heavy usage.
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Thanks for the replies.
Screen 43%, android system 17%, android os 10% are the main ones.
It's now only gone down by 2% in the last few mins.
I noticed last night it dropped from 100% to 76% in about 20 mins, then after charging for 10 mins it went up to 93%. I know there's no way it can charge that quick so maybe there's some battery indicator calibration issue?
Any ideas on the lecturenotes problem?
thanks again
I have experienced no lag with LectureNotes on any Samsung build so far (currently on BMJ6). Maybe some thing(s) running in the background? Or some poor setting?
@jack880: I received a few reports concerning slow response of LectureNotes on the 2014 edition of the Note 10.1. But I also received several emails from users of the new Note 10.1 with suggestions and feature requests who did not mention slow response, so that I am quite puzzled. I am still waiting for my own device to arrive, so I can presently not test LectureNotes on the new Note 10.1 myself.
I own a Nexus 10 which has the same large display resolution and is supposed to be slower than the new Note 10.1, but on this device LectureNotes runs smoothly.
A common source of slow response is that `enforce GPU/hardware rendering´ is enabled in the device's developer settings. Please ensure that this option is not enabled on you device.
acadoid said:
@jack880: I received a few reports concerning slow response of LectureNotes on the 2014 edition of the Note 10.1. But I also received several emails from users of the new Note 10.1 with suggestions and feature requests who did not mention slow response, so that I am quite puzzled. I am still waiting for my own device to arrive, so I can presently not test LectureNotes on the new Note 10.1 myself.
I own a Nexus 10 which has the same large display resolution and is supposed to be slower than the new Note 10.1, but on this device LectureNotes runs smoothly.
A common source of slow response is that `enforce GPU/hardware rendering´ is enabled in the device's developer settings. Please ensure that this option is not enabled on you device.
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Hi. I emailed you about this earlier today. Just thought I'd post here too in case anyone else had a similar problem.
I really want to keep the tablet but without lecture notes it is useless to me!
GPU/hardware rendering is not enabled. I don't think anything in the developer settings is enabled.
If it helps you diagnose anything, when the pen first makes contact with the screen there is a delay before it registers. But if you keep the pen touching the screen, any movements you then make are instantaneous until you lift the pen off and then touch the screen again and you get a delay again.
Also the panning and zooming is really slow and jerky...
I'm still using my original note 10.1 at the moment.
Thanks for the help.
I use LectureNotes everyday to take notes for work on the new Note 10.1 2014. l haven't noticed any type of slowdown or lag. Maybe you have a rogue app or some kind of background process working?
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ajamudc said:
I use LectureNotes everyday to take notes for work on the new Note 10.1 2014. l haven't noticed any type of slowdown or lag. Maybe you have a rogue app or some kind of background process working?
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Thanks, that's interesting to know.
No idea how to find what might be slowing it down. I've downloaded and installed the app twice, before and after a factory reset and it's the same.
Would you mind checking something for me? I've made a couple of videos comparing the original note (on the left) with the 2014 edition (on the right).
It won't let me post a link but please put h t t p : in front of this //we.tl/ElM2ctP0K6
How does yours compare with this?
As you can see from the 3rd video I'm also having trouble selecting the pen type on the 2014 edition. It doesn't seem to register the pen hitting the screen.
All other apps using the stylus (sketchbook pro, s-note, papyrus etc) are all fine on the 2014....
Many thanks
jack880 said:
Thanks, that's interesting to know.
No idea how to find what might be slowing it down. I've downloaded and installed the app twice, before and after a factory reset and it's the same.
Would you mind checking something for me? I've made a couple of videos comparing the original note (on the left) with the 2014 edition (on the right).
It won't let me post a link but please put h t t p : in front of this //we.tl/ElM2ctP0K6
How does yours compare with this?
As you can see from the 3rd video I'm also having trouble selecting the pen type on the 2014 edition. It doesn't seem to register the pen hitting the screen.
All other apps using the stylus (sketchbook pro, s-note, papyrus etc) are all fine on the 2014....
Many thanks
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Wow, I just looked at your video and I don't have any of those issues. After looking at your video, I went back and tested the app again. I didn't have any of the lag you experience and changing pencils in the toolbox was instantaneous. Very interesting.
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Wow, I just looked at your video and I don't have any of those issues. After looking at your video, I went back and tested the app again. I didn't have any of the lag you experience and changing pencils in the toolbox was instantaneous. Very interesting.
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That's really good to know ,thanks a lot for checking.
I wonder what the difference is? Is yours rooted or stock? Mine is stock. Brand new.
Jack880,
Have you updated your note 10.1 2014 via samsung Kies?
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Jack880,
Have you updated your note 10.1 2014 via samsung Kies?
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No, just used the settings menu - about phone > software update.
Is there a difference?
Thanks
@jack880: Many thanks for the videos, this problem is really weird.
@ajamudc: Many thanks for your posting, I am glad to hear that no all 2014 editions of the Note 10.1 display this problem!
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Hi everyone.
New to this forum so hope im posting in the right place.
I've just got the new note 10.1 2014 edition. I love the design and the screen, but I've got two major issues.
1. I use the excellent LectureNotes app pretty much every day. On my original note 10.1, it ran perfectly and really smoothly. On the new one it lags so badly it's unusable. For example, a pen stroke appears 2 seconds after I draw it. On the original note it was instantaneous. Zooming out to see a whole page takes about 5 seconds on the new note and stutters. On the old note, it was smooth and took about a second.
2. The battery drops so fast it's unbelievable. I've just watched it drop by 8% in 4 minutes when it was updating some apps from google play. It's dropped by over 20% in about 10-15 minutes.
I've done the updates, and then done a factory reset. These issues were there both before and after the factory reset.
Have I got a faulty tablet, or is this just what it's like?
Thanks a lot
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You're not the only one. Lecture notes is really laggy when I try to zoom and write when I'm zoomed in. In non zoom it writes normally. This is also the same for my other note 10.1 2014
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You're not the only one. Lecture notes is really laggy when I try to zoom and write when I'm zoomed in. In non zoom it writes normally. This is also the same for my other note 10.1 2014
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Thanks. I wonder what it is then? I'm trying the kies update to see if that makes any difference.....
It's downloading a huge file so I presume it's more thorough than the OTA update...
@wilsonhuang: LectureNotes is laggy for you on an old Note 10.1, did I understand that correctly? I do not yet have the new 2014 edition of the Note 10.1, but one of my test devices is an old Note 10.1, and LectureNotes is very fluid on this device, including zooming in, zooming out, writing while zoomed, etc. This can also be seen in jack880's videos. So far, all reports of LectureNotes being laggy on the old Note 10.1 were due to `enforce GPU/hardware rendering´ being enabled in the device's developer settings.
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Jack880,
Have you updated your note 10.1 2014 via samsung Kies?
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Hi - I've done the kies update and it's had no effect on the lecturenotes problem. I've done another factory reset and also no effect... Thanks anyway...
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You're not the only one. Lecture notes is really laggy when I try to zoom and write when I'm zoomed in. In non zoom it writes normally. This is also the same for my other note 10.1 2014
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Mine is the same - just checked. The problem is definitely related just to zooming.
At zoom levels up to and including 100% there is no lag and selecting the pencils is instantaneous.
The problems ONLY occur at more than 100% zoom...
This could be why some people see a problem and some don't...
Also something else I've noticed - the delay when writing and selecting pencils only occurs with the s-pen. There is no delay when using my finger.
However, the lag in scrolling and zooming in and out happens regardless of where the s-pen is in relation to the tablet.
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Altough there is a similar thread in Nexus10 forum, I am posting here the same question.
Just got my Note8, and i have noticed imediately this behaviour: when scrolling in portrait mode, pages are deforming, most notably on the left side. For me this is quite disturbing (this is my first Android tablet). I have used a Nexus7 for few days and did not notice such thing.
Here is the video from the other thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4-tKflikYY&feature=youtube_gdata_player.
Is anyone experiencing the same? I wonder if this is a manufacturing defect and should return the tablet, as in the N10 thread someone does not recognize this behaviour.
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Altough there is a similar thread in Nexus10 forum, I am posting here the same question.
Just got my Note8, and i have noticed imediately this behaviour: when scrolling in portrait mode, pages are deforming, most notably on the left side. For me this is quite disturbing (this is my first Android tablet). I have used a Nexus7 for few days and did not notice such thing.
Here is the video from the other thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4-tKflikYY&feature=youtube_gdata_player.
Is anyone experiencing the same? I wonder if this is a manufacturing defect and should return the tablet, as in the N10 thread someone does not recognize this behaviour.
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Same issue here.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18485044/DSC_8338.MOV
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Same issue here.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18485044/DSC_8338.MOV
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Thanks for the feedback. I went back to shop and confirmed it with the demo tablet. The same behaviour seen on the Ipad retina too. Strange enough, sony tablet z was ok, with more pixels than our tablet. Hopefully a custom ROM can solve this one.
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Thanks for the feedback. I went back to shop and confirmed it with the demo tablet. The same behaviour seen on the Ipad retina too. Strange enough, sony tablet z was ok, with more pixels than our tablet. Hopefully a custom ROM can solve this one.
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My Nexus 7 I/O Edition does the same thing. Maybe we just have special eyes? A lot of people simply don't see it.
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My Nexus 7 I/O Edition does the same thing. Maybe we just have special eyes? A lot of people simply don't see it.
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I have only used a Nexus7 32G model and haven't noticed this one (I will ask my friend to test it for me). Nexus7 and Note8 have the same CPU and same resolution, but different GPU, different screen type and screen size. Can't be our eyes, can it? (lol)
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I have only used a Nexus7 32G model and haven't noticed this one (I will ask my friend to test it for me). Nexus7 and Note8 have the same CPU and same resolution, but different GPU, different screen type and screen size. Can't be our eyes, can it? (lol)
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They actually have completely different CPUs. The Nexus 7 has a Tegra 3, the Note 8.0 has an Exynos 4412.
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They actually have completely different CPUs. The Nexus 7 has a Tegra 3, the Note 8.0 has an Exynos 4412.
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I thought that's the chipset, and the CPU core is a Cortex-A9. Looking at the specs for Ipad3, it using the same Cortex core (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_Cortex-A9_MPCore)
That's an interesting thought, I wonder if the Infinity tab, which has high resolution and uses the same core CPU exhibits the same behaviour when scrolling. I'll came back if i have the chance to test it.
I just watched the .mov format file a couple of times, and I'd tried the youtube as well, and I'm still not sure what is being described.
Is this a report that the text is blurring a little as the page is scrolled rapidly up and down?
Not a big issue for me, as I can't read text until it stops moving unless I want to get carsick right here on the couch
It's not enough of a lag between when the page stops moving and when the text is sharp that I notice it, if that is what the video's highlighting.
One thing you can try is getting into developer options and checking the settings for "force GPU rendering" and "disable hardware overlays"
I force gpu rendering and do not disable hardware overlays. On my device, that pair of settings gives me the best quadrant graphics scores. So I tell myself I notice the difference
I have already tried the trick with developer options, and didn't get any improvment.
The issue, for me, is not the text blur during scroll. It is that horizontal lines or text or photos are not horizontal anymore, but oblique, during scroll.
Try, for example, scrolling a google search result in browser, keeping your finger on the screen. I see the right side of the screen going faster than the left side of the screen, hence the sensation of deforming. The same effect i get when scrolling pictures in gallery or tumblr. If i scroll up and down several times the effect is obvious.
I have tested today more devices (Asus TF300, Ipad2) and noticed this effect. Despite my previous statement, tablet Z has the same.
I tend now to believe this as being a "normal" behaviour.
Yes, it's more of a bending and deforming of lines that should be straight when scrolling. Exactly like was described in the post above.
I guess I'm just used to the 0 lag of an AMOLED display...
Just a thought. Could it be a visual illusion? Like when you hold a pencil near one end with two fingers and wave it up and down, the pencil appears to be bending but in reality it is not.
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GGWC808 said:
Just a thought. Could it be a visual illusion? Like when you hold a pencil near one end with two fingers and wave it up and down, the pencil appears to be bending but in reality it is not.
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You just blew my mind maybe
EDIT: Thought about it, nope. My Nexus 7 does the same but the OTHER way, horizontal instead of vertical.
Never noticed anything like that on my note n5110, but i definitely see what the problem is on the video above...it's wobbly. Will check my device again later and let you know. Doesn't seem normal to me but maybe I just never noticed it on my note.
EDIT: Wow I finally see it on my device. It took a lot of playing around, but I managed to consistently reproduce the issue by using tapatalk and scrolling up and down slowly while in portrait mode. I also had to hold the Note further away than I normally would to see the effect. Crazy optical! Since I don't really notice it in everyday situations though it won't be bothersome for me, but I definitely see how it might be annoying for someone who notices it more often. You have some sharp eyes :thumbup::thumbup:
so is that issue present in all N8.0 devices?
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so is that issue present in all N8.0 devices?
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I would assume so, but i only own one Note8 and checked myself another one in the shop.
some guys from russian forum said with 100% confidence that they don't have such issue ...
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some guys from russian forum said with 100% confidence that they don't have such issue ...
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So did I until I finally noticed it. Doesn't mean they are wrong though.
I noticed it on EVERY video review of the device:
I'm planning to get one for college, how is it (overall)?
but if you're a student using this, please let me know too.
Have had mine for about right hours now. Was thinking of moving down from the 10.1 to something smaller for a while now (GT7.7 is current daily driver). The 10.1 is a great tab but the size is a bit too cumbersome for me. So far, very impressed with the overall experience. Typical quality Samsung build. Got root (MSkip's Tool Kit) no issue. Lecture Notes perform well. Will be doing more as the days go by for meeting notes.
You notice that at first the available space is limited to around 9GB. Plan to add a uSD you'll probably need it.
Screen is same resolution as 10.1 but looks a bit better (smaller screen size helps).
So far it's a keeper.
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Have had mine for about right hours now. Was thinking of moving down from the 10.1 to something smaller for a while now (GT7.7 is current daily driver). The 10.1 is a great tab but the size is a bit too cumbersome for me. So far, very impressed with the overall experience. Typical quality Samsung build. Got root (MSkip's Tool Kit) no issue. Lecture Notes perform well. Will be doing more as the days go by for meeting notes.
You notice that at first the available space is limited to around 9GB. Plan to add a uSD you'll probably need it.
Screen is same resolution as 10.1 but looks a bit better (smaller screen size helps).
So far it's a keeper.
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thanks for the info!
Yea I use mine for college... works well but you will need an sd card. Take a look at the new nexus 7 aswell.
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Honestly, if you want the spen, there is no real alternative. It's very light and thin... perfect for carrying around in public and taking notes.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291973
Here's my thread on my experience
I have had mine for about 2 weeks now and love it. I primarily bought it for the S Pen to use during my meetings at work and my classes at night. . I will say that I am still getting used to writing with the S Pen. I still have issues writing certain symbols and letters with the pen so I am not effective as I want to be. Hopefully that will change soon. As many have said, if you think you will use the S Pen feature a lot, I would highly recommend it. If not, for a cheaper price, I would look at a few other tabs out there.
I would say that unless you want/need/would use the S-Pen, the new Nexus 7 would be the best route to go....and it's half the price. That said, this is the best tablet in it's class for pen support.
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I noticed some people mentioning the Nexus 7, but it has its own drawbacks. Benchmarks posted on Youtube, show the Note 8.0 still beating the new Nexus 7 in some benchmarks. The gpu on the Nexus 7 probably is faster though.
But the Nexus 7" screen really is actually smaller than 7", due to the command buttons being on the screen itself. The Note pen also has more uses than just writing. I find the pen great for selecting items that are in tiny print on a web page, you can also view drop down boxes on websites with the pen by hovering the pen over them, something you can't do by hand.
Note 8.0 is so worth it imo. I wasnt sure like u, but I just went for it cause I wanted a tablet not big or small so of course tried 8 inch and havent regretted it. But I must admit, stock rom (out of the box) I did not like it. I was close to returning it but decided to root and installs civs rom. Since then, my tablet is pure awesome. To me its an ordinary tablet like theothers just has some special features which is modtly the spen and some spen apps.
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Very happy with this good battery life, smooth system, great performance :thumbup:
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im considering this myself. I was wondering, however, has anyone taking notes with the note 2, and how is it? I'd rather wait for the note 3 and basically compact all my devices into to one thing if possible.
Anyone know what gpu the Note 3 is getting? I'm only curious because that's what the Note 8.0 successor will be getting next year...
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thank you guys, i got one today!! although the new nexus is nice, i wanted the s pen!
Has Samsung made any announcements as far as the next generation of the Note 8? I love the S pen but I really need a display higher than 320 ppi...
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Has Samsung made any announcements as far as the next generation of the Note 8? I love the S pen but I really need a display higher than 320 ppi...
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not being a PITA but really would love to know what you'll be using yours for that truly requires that level of pixel density? We are always seeing new uses so it's great to share your use.
My use is just text with a handful of sketching so a screen PPI of 170ish is OK. Butaeyonehas different needs.
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not being a PITA but really would love to know what you'll be using yours for that truly requires that level of pixel density? We are always seeing new uses so it's great to share your use.
My use is just text with a handful of sketching so a screen PPI of 170ish is OK. Butaeyonehas different needs.
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All my books are digital now and unless the display looks like a page (pixels are indistinguishable), my eyes get tired after about half an hour of reading.
evernote. lecture notes, audio master floating, multiwindow. s pen perfect for notes
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I'm planning to get one for college, how is it (overall)?
but if you're a student using this, please let me know too.
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I've been using the note 8 for a while now and if what you want is work and note taking...it's just perfect: here's my set up for note taking:
1) With multiwindow on...
2) EVERNOTE on the left panel (window). --yep EVERNOTE supports MULTIWINDOW hurray!!!!
3) Lecture notes on the right panel(window)
4) Audio Master Floating....floating around.
I know evernote has skitch but switching between this and the main app loses valuable time when you're taking down notes. it's much easier to jot down text on evernote and scribble into lecture notes (side by side)...then if you're done with the lecture, you can just export the entire lecture note scribble onto evernote and everything get's synchronized...plus if you don't wanna export to evernote...that's fine too since images are really a lot of data to upload.
I know evernote also has a built in recording function but again switching between that and the actual text app again loses valuable time, Audiomaster floating is fast, pumps up the voice recording volume (if the speaker is far) and you can save the audio under various formats...and it can record while you write....I know lecture notes has an audiorecorder as well but as I said, it's much faster to have all three options available instantaneously while taking down notes and that's all made possible by...yep,...you guessed it...the note 8.
final APPS:
5) ES file explorer, camera ace on your android phone and FOLDER SYNCLITE:
--SET up es file explorer as an FTP server on your phone or tablet and assign a folder to store all your lecture pics (to be taken for a particular lecture) using camera ace on your phone. Then set up folder sync lite to synchronize those folders between the note 8 and you're android phone...voilia...no more flailing around the large note 8 to take pictures,,,you can take pics with your camera phone (less bothersome) and synchronize it striaght to your note 8 to annotate powerpoint slides captured directly from the phone but edited more efficiently on the larger screen of the note 8 (no internet requiring drop box or other cloud storage service required). This one I haven't had the chance to do yet...But I believe it is possible...
I know all these individual apps are already available on other devices...but none of these even come close to the sheer..."multitasking behemoth" that is the note 8. Actually, the "behemoth" would be the note 10 (which is also great for that size category) so this would make the note 8 the porsche....really easy to slip into a large enough coat pocket (side pockets of course). Built in 3G also adds functionality for early cross referencing using the internet.
Battery life is good...lasts a day (one app at a time use)...but when I use it for this type of simultaneous multitasking (s pen, hover, constantly updating evernote with imports from lecture note), it will probably only last half a day...still no tablet out there can do the same I think in half a day...You can always go back to one app at a time note taking to get the regular bat life...but the option for true multitasking will always be there.
note 8 is expensive but as the name emplies...It's for hard core note taking....
Just my 2 cents worth...good luck to you on your decision.
The Note 8 is a fantastic tablet. While the specs of the new Nexus 7 look impressive for the price, I find 7 inch screens too small. For me 8 inch is the perfect size. Also I actually like TouchWiz and prefer it to stock Android which looks kind of dull.
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Bulishor said:
All my books are digital now and unless the display looks like a page (pixels are indistinguishable), my eyes get tired after about half an hour of reading.
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I had a suspicion it was reading. I've been a longtime ebook guy so I know exactly what you are saying. Better fonts help some folks but not always.
As an aside for the N8. I set the system font to...ROSEMARY @ normal font size plus legibility set to ENHANCED and have been pleased. weirdly COOL JAZZ set to LARGE works for me as well. Those fonts are two I would never have considered because I am a pretty plain & boring Helvetica sorta guy but on the N8 they simply work for my eyes... who knew??
For me its the lighter weight fonts and smaller text where resolution becomes critical. Luckily for me there is something about the way Samsung seems to manage the color temperature of the backlight which helps me a great deal.
My Asus TF 700T (Transformer Infinity) has a lot higher PPI but I find I prefer the end result on my Note 8.0 over reading on the larger device. I will add I haven't put in any reading sessions ( literature not mags) > l-hr. on the N8. So how my eyes feel is still not fully determined.. I do use it all day long and several hours each night.
I have noticed we might have begun to see a return of importance of screen refresh rates. I suspect rhe IPS-type panels aredoing things to make them useless power but at the cost of eyestrain returning. d wish he trade rags had the stones to do real reviews like in the 80's & 90's but fear those days are long gone.
I still do most all my novel reading on my Kindle II.
Thanks for elaborating I'm sure it will help others trying decide which way to jump.
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I'm pretty disappointed with the Tab 3. Seems very slow/laggy. In addition, there is zero development on XDA for the tab 3. I know this just came out in the US, but it has been out for months worldwide. I've had this tablet for a couple weeks, so it's not just a first impression at this point.....
Currently, very unstable root and recovery. No custom roms. No way to install scripts/intd.
I've had a Galaxy 3 phone for about a year and love it. My phone runs circles around the Tab 3 in terms of responsiveness, processing......pretty much everything actually.
Am I getting a unique experience with my Tab or is everyone noticing the slow, dragging, instability of this tab? Size and screen are great, but do not outweigh the performance issues in my book.
Anyone else returned/exchanged their Tab 3? If so, what did you return it for? Thinking about going w/ the new Nexus 7, but there are a lot of options out there....please help!!!!!!
Weird. I had the nexus 7 2, the note 8, and now the tab 3 8. I don't think the tab is slow at all. Granted I don't play games, but overall I think its quite responsive and solid all around.
But I've seen a few complaints about how awful it is so it seems people have vastly different experiences.
Did it get slower over time? What are you doing when it lags? Did you install a ton of weird stuff?
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Weird. I had the nexus 7 2, the note 8, and now the tab 3 8. I don't think the tab is slow at all. Granted I don't play games, but overall I think its quite responsive and solid all around.
But I've seen a few complaints about how awful it is so it seems people have vastly different experiences.
Did it get slower over time? What are you doing when it lags? Did you install a ton of weird stuff?
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Not at all. I don't play games on it or anything that requires heavy cpu usage. Just basic navigation is very slow. Is your tab rooted?
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Not at all. I don't play games on it or anything that requires heavy cpu usage. Just basic navigation is very slow. Is your tab rooted?
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Nope not rooted.
Yeah I wish I could return mine at this point the asus memo 7 hd seems like a much better choice for 50 less than this thing.
arshull said:
I'm pretty disappointed with the Tab 3. Seems very slow/laggy. In addition, there is zero development on XDA for the tab 3.
Currently, very unstable root and recovery. No custom roms. No way to install scripts/intd.
Am I getting a unique experience with my Tab or is everyone noticing the slow, dragging, instability of this tab?
Anyone else returned/exchanged their Tab 3? If so, what did you return it for? Thinking about going w/ the new Nexus 7
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I owned a Nexus-7 2013.. Took it back on the 15th day.. (Walmart) They're a lot of issues going on with the N7.. GPS being the main one.. And there are some bad ones out in the field.. So be warned. I was lucky and got a good one, but it just did not justify the price (32 Gb) $294.00 out the door.. for the size of the Tablet for me.. I also own an iPad Mini.. and the 7" Screen of the N7 just was not cutting it for me after being exposed to the 8" 4:3 Screen of the iPad Mini for the last year or so.. The N7 just seem too small.. lots of development for it.. but for me they were the same ROMs I was running on my recently sold Galaxy Note.. so they were Quite Boring and offered nothing new. Then I spotted this Tablet and the Beautiful Saturated Colors and it's 8" Screen won me over on 1st sight.. You got a bad Tablet.. You should just do a Factory Reset Wipe everything and go back to how the Tablet was when it came out of the box. if it's still laggy.. Return it and try another Tab 3 8.0 or something else. Mine was fast out of the box .. is now rooted and still smokes.. have you tried a different launcher? have you gone into developer options and adjusted your animations for faster response...?
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Weird. I had the nexus 7 2, the note 8, and now the tab 3 8. I don't think the tab is slow at all. Granted I don't play games, but overall I think its quite responsive and solid all around.
But I've seen a few complaints about how awful it is so it seems people have vastly different experiences.
Did it get slower over time? What are you doing when it lags? Did you install a ton of weird stuff?
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No issues with my Tab 3 8.0 either..
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Yeah I wish I could return mine at this point the asus memo 7 hd seems like a much better choice for 50 less than this thing.
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I think this is about the Tab 3 "8.0" but you are correct... the Asus would be a better choice when comparing to the Tab 3 7.0.. IMO..
Sell what you got for $150.00... Then buy the Asus.
You are still cutting someone a deal if your unit is still in "Like New" Condition..
Speed
Mine is rooted and still is quite responsive.
Speed wise it was not as fast as the Note 8.0 but it is only dual core!
Ran Antutu on Note 8.0 and tab 3 before buying tab 3 8.0
note was 16,000 and tab 12,000
Where as my mtk6569 Note 5.5' clone came in at 16,138.
my old mtk6575 was around 9,000 from memory. But it has gone to the gods RIP.
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Speed wise it was not as fast as the Note 8.0 but it is only dual core!
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This is potentially misleading. It's the same clock rate processor. For many tasks the Tab 8 is just as fast as the Note 8. Exactly the same speed.
Where a quad core will shine over a dual core is when you're trying to do lots of stuff at once. The main area I noticed a difference is something like loading a huge web page and trying to scroll while it's still loading. Lots of stuff happening at the same time there so more processors makes a clear difference.
But for basic, one at a time tasks where there's not much parallelism to be found, there isn't much noticeable performance difference.
I don't know if the '8 is that much different, but my tab 3 10.1 is among the speediest i' ve ever used(tablets)
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Hello, everybody.
I was looking to buy a Galaxy Note 8 for the past weeks, reading forums, reviews, etc. I really like it for the SPen, Quadcore and for being 8 inch. Then I saw a promotion on Note 10.1 which is the cheapest I've ever seen. Well, the difference between Note 8 and Note 10.1 prices is only $28 (Note 8 as more expensive). Both of them only wifi version.
Considering the image quality, the updates, the lightly fast processing, the light weight and new technology on Note 8, I really don't know what to do. I mean, 149ppi of Note 10.1 is really annoying and its weight is not comparable to Note 8 (but the weight is not a really problem to me).
On the other hand, I'm just thinking if I would be pleased in watching videos, reading books or other results with images (photo, games) with the 8" screen. What would be better in general for you?
P.S.: The Note 8 wifi only has a samsung official update (on-the-air) for Android 4.2.2?
Thank you all.
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Hello, everybody.
I was looking to buy a Galaxy Note 8 for the past weeks, reading forums, reviews, etc. I really like it for the SPen, Quadcore and for being 8 inch. Then I saw a promotion on Note 10.1 which is the cheapest I've ever seen. Well, the difference between Note 8 and Note 10.1 prices is only $28 (Note 8 as more expensive). Both of them only wifi version.
Considering the image quality, the updates, the lightly fast processing, the light weight and new technology on Note 8, I really don't know what to do. I mean, 149ppi of Note 10.1 is really annoying and its weight is not comparable to Note 8 (but the weight is not a really problem to me).
On the other hand, I'm just thinking if I would be pleased in watching videos, reading books or other results with images (photo, games) with the 8" screen. What would be better in general for you?
P.S.: The Note 8 wifi only has a samsung official update (on-the-air) for Android 4.2.2?
Thank you all.
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I'll attempt to help you out. Never used a Note 10.1 but have read many posts from users that have both. Most feedback is exactly what you stated. Note 8 has a better screen, speed/smoothness, and feel to it. As for reading books I'm not sure but for me the 8" screen is about the perfect tablet size. If you use the tablet at home primarily than a 10" tablet would work out fine. However if you plan on carting the thing around my opinion is the 10" tablet is a bit cumbersome.
As far as I know there is no official Samsung 4.2.2 release. The build being used currently is a beta leak. However, I'm running a 4.2.2 custom rom and it is 100% stable, has floating multiwindows like the Note 10, and is smoother than 4.1.2. The Note 8 may never see an official release because Samsung might just jump right to 4.3. I would think something should be released in the near future.
Thank you, CCallahan!
I was convinced to get Note 8 when I saw this promo that put the choice in my personal view and not exactly in the price.
I would like to get around with my tablet as I'm doing some academic works and I would use it at home for entertainment since my notebook can always do the hardwork here. I do work with video so I would like to get a nice screen for viewing pics/videos, image quality is pretty important here (considering the Note 10.1 screen). I have another doubt about web browsing (I'm putting this things cause I've never tried both tablets on my hands), but in video reviews the Note 8 seems to get it done as well.
I'm voting on Note 8 as I only think in Note 10.1 for its screen size.
P.S.: what do you mean when you say "I would think something should be released in the near future." Do you mean a new GNote tablet or that Note 8 could get 4.3 update?
err we do have the official release of 4.2.2 on note 8 but the last release was for germany & asean region. but the features are less then what we expected... plus some feat missing.
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/08/12...e-rolling-out-to-galaxy-note-8-0-3g-gt-n5100/
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Thank you, CCallahan!
I was convinced to get Note 8 when I saw this promo that put the choice in my personal view and not exactly in the price.
I would like to get around with my tablet as I'm doing some academic works and I would use it at home for entertainment since my notebook can always do the hardwork here. I do work with video so I would like to get a nice screen for viewing pics/videos, image quality is pretty important here (considering the Note 10.1 screen). I have another doubt about web browsing (I'm putting this things cause I've never tried both tablets on my hands), but in video reviews the Note 8 seems to get it done as well.
I'm voting on Note 8 as I only think in Note 10.1 for its screen size.
P.S.: what do you mean when you say "I would think something should be released in the near future." Do you mean a new GNote tablet or that Note 8 could get 4.3 update?
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I was wrong about 4.2.2 obviously. Did not realize some 3g models were currently getting that rolled out.
What I meant was since 4.3 is already out some manufacturers such as HTC are choosing to bypass a 4.2.2 release and go straight to 4.3 on certain devices. Thought this could be a possibility for some Samsung devices as well.
As for web browsing on the Note 8, I was pleasantly surprised with how quickly it loads web pages. I have an S4 as well and the Note is much faster.
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The note 8 is a great device. . Better than the note 10.1
If you don't do much reading... and don't need spen ..get the nexus 7 2013. ..it has an amazing screen and the speakers are awesome... and the price and updates are unbeatable.. (just got it too)
Also consider the new LG gpad 8.3 inch tab which had been announced
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happydisorder said:
Hello, everybody.
I was looking to buy a Galaxy Note 8 for the past weeks, reading forums, reviews, etc. I really like it for the SPen, Quadcore and for being 8 inch. Then I saw a promotion on Note 10.1 which is the cheapest I've ever seen. Well, the difference between Note 8 and Note 10.1 prices is only $28 (Note 8 as more expensive). Both of them only wifi version.
Considering the image quality, the updates, the lightly fast processing, the light weight and new technology on Note 8, I really don't know what to do. I mean, 149ppi of Note 10.1 is really annoying and its weight is not comparable to Note 8 (but the weight is not a really problem to me).
On the other hand, I'm just thinking if I would be pleased in watching videos, reading books or other results with images (photo, games) with the 8" screen. What would be better in general for you?
P.S.: The Note 8 wifi only has a samsung official update (on-the-air) for Android 4.2.2?
Thank you all.
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I have a tab10.1 and a note 8.0.
I use both for:
Internet, Email, movies, games. reading books and magazines.
Advantage 8.0: Weight, size
Disadvange: The only real disadvantage compared to the 10.1 is when reading magazines. Have to zoom in a lot and then lose track
8.0 goes on travel, I find the 10.1 to big for on the road.
Im just comparing form factor, not the actual devices.
Ok!
edan1979: Thanks for the link, i'm going to ready some stuff about that. I was confused about the update being for 5010 or only 5000 but now I understand.
pakure: I'm choosing Note series for reading and Spen for writing in first place and to see as well if I can do some others creative works with the Spen. Anyway, I will be watching a lot of stuff ocasionally and gaming but I'll be primmarly focusing on Spen and reading/writing. And getting a good use of its quadcore.
HANSB57: Yeah, I like your comparison from having both options. I like the portability for travelling and walking around with it. I would really like a Note that would be possible to carry around a lot, everywhere. Something light but with a screen able to do multitasking, easy to write/read, to anotate, to watch videos and to edit imgs.
I have two days to make my choice and now I'm going on Note 8.
Thexgn fine
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I was wrong about 4.2.2 obviously. Did not realize some 3g models were currently getting that rolled out.
What I meant was since 4.3 is already out some manufacturers such as HTC are choosing to bypass a 4.2.2 release and go straight to 4.3 on certain devices. Thought this could be a possibility for some Samsung devices as well.
As for web browsing on the Note 8, I was pleasantly surprised with how quickly it loads web pages. I have an S4 as well and the Note is much faster.
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I understand! Since my option is N5110, I'm on wifi only on 4.1.2. I'll be waiting that future update to really come. Let's see what Samsung is capable of. It shouldn't exist that kind of OS politics. It's such easy to get these updates in new devices.
After knowing your device requirements,......I suggest you get the note 8.
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err we do have the official release of 4.2.2 on note 8 but the last release was for germany & asean region. but the features are less then what we expected... plus some feat missing.
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/08/12...e-rolling-out-to-galaxy-note-8-0-3g-gt-n5100/
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But this build have issue on S pen accuracy. There is a thread on this.
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But this build have issue on S pen accuracy. There is a thread on this.
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Yeah some got issue with the spen. But some dont have this problem. Its ok on my device.
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Yeah, pakure.
I have three last important questions! I need to read PDF as results of books scanning. Is it fine to read these PDF files that are in landscape orientation? I mean 2 pages side by side in one landscape pdf page. Is it possible to read at least holding the Note 8 in horizontal view?
The second question is that I read about a 32gb microSD size limitation at samsung official user manual. But in gsmarena (for example) I can see the limit up to 64gb. Well, I would like to know if is it possible to put a 64gb microSD on Note 5110.
And the third one is about the speed limit. Which should be the ideal speed for getting a microSD card? Thinking about external read/write maximum speed allowed.
Thanks again, people!
I have owned the 10.1 and now the 8.0. Writing is fine on either device. I'm taking college courses at night and I prefer the 8.0 for portability. The speakers are way better on the 8.0. My biggest issues of the 10.1 was the screen, being bigger but the same resolution as the 8.0 was just blurry enough to be annoying. It's a bigger issue than one would think. Also its hard to hold without being in the way. where as the 8.0 is nice for ebooks and surfing the net.
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Yeah, pakure.
I have three last important questions! I need to read PDF as results of books scanning. Is it fine to read these PDF files that are in landscape orientation? I mean 2 pages side by side in one landscape pdf page. Is it possible to read at least holding the Note 8 in horizontal view?
The second question is that I read about a 32gb microSD size limitation at samsung official user manual. But in gsmarena (for example) I can see the limit up to 64gb. Well, I would like to know if is it possible to put a 64gb microSD on Note 5110.
And the third one is about the speed limit. Which should be the ideal speed for getting a microSD card? Thinking about external read/write maximum speed allowed.
Thanks again, people!
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1. i think you need to zoom it a lil bit. depend on the book size... if the scan book are big you might not see it.
2. 64gb class 10 working fine. i use it on my note 2 and this note 8
3. go for class 10.
sdelliott31: once gain it's very good to listen somebody who owns both tablets. I'm really appreciated in choosing Note 8 for the pointings that you've said.
edan1979: ok! I'll need just a few books with that kind of display (horizontal 2 pages viewing), but it'll be ok zooming in particularly cases. And for the speed, I'll be glad to go for up to 30MB/s class 10 card.
Getting a option now shoud be easy after your support. I'll be getting back soon to the forum to share my experience with other users!
I used to own a Note 10.1 and now have the Note 8.0.
I would say it's a slightly better experience drawing and writing on the 10.1 because of the extra screen size.
Multi window is also more useful on the larger tablet, battery life is longer and speakers are louder.
The 10.1 also has a true tablet ui while the Note 8.0 has in effect a phone ui.
Having said all that I sold the 10.1 once I got the 8.0 for the following reasons.
As others have mentioned the 10.1 is just blurry enough to be annoying. It is more of an eye strain to read text on it than it is to read it on the Note 8.0 inspite of the larger physical size of the screen. Also the colour rendition seems better on the 8.0. The 10.1 colours seem slightly washed out in comparison.
There are times where I feel a little cramped writing on the 8.0 but these moments are hardly worth worrying about in comparison to the advantages of the smaller form factor. The 10.1 is more cumbersome to carry around and it's significantly heavier so it starts to get tiring to hold after a time. The 8.0 is also much easier to type on while holding it in portrait mode. While holding it in both hands your thumbs can easily reach all the letters.
The 8.0 also seems smother overall. The 10.1 can exhibit a little lag at time, for instance a slight delay when trying to switch apps via the recent apps button. It's still a good performer but the 8.0 is just very slick and smooth almost all the time.
Battery life on the 8.0 could be better but it's enough to get me through an 8 hour day on a full charge. I guess Samsung had to make a trade off here - a bigger battery would mean more weight and thickness so the device wouldn't feel as amazing as it does in the hand.
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they actually could do better with the battery... my old 7.7 equip with 5100mah
I own both tablets. I just got the 8" because I used to have a tab 8.9 and I thought that was the perfect size for a tablet. This one is close, more similar to a moleskine notebook.
I'm a graphic artist and honestly the resolution never bothered me on the 10". Sure you can definitely make out the pixels, just move the screen an inch away or, as a personal trick I use an anti-glare screen protector. The suddle fuzziness blends the pixels together removing the aliasing that everyone hates. Plus it makes it look more natural (prints are not extra sharp), less reflective, helps finger gliding and gives a feeling of paper when using the pen.
That said I think the 8" is better for being more portable. And that's all you really should want from a tablet. Also the pen is slightly smaller but more round and easier to hold.
I'm currently using it with a SanDisk ultra 64gb sd card and it doesn't have any problem reading it. (Both tablets didn't).
dr.mOX: yeah, once gain 10.1 battery and screen size seems to be the point to make this decision sounds hard. But for Note 8 being smoother, newer and lightly portable is what should matter. I'm thinking over and over, but each time I look around it really looks like a certain decision on Note 8. As what you've said, trades are made for better experiences in another ways. For the Phone UI, it's a little thing, but it's a different thing. Anyway, it should be fine in portrait mode.
DBBGBA: Nice to read it. It's very important to be very close to "tablet experience" to me as with notebooks we can do some working with a restricted, but possible, another kind of portability.
Got the opportunity to swap my Iphone 5 for a galaxy Note 2, have owned a note 2 briefly before, but been using iphones for so long I thought id pop into PCworld and have a play on a note 2 again...alas it was terribly laggy, love the screen, a bit lower res than some of the new beasts out there, but still looks fine, quite fancy doing the trade, only the lag on the tester device was awful, could there have been something wrong with it, im not compare Ios with android, so lets not start that game, just would like to know if the device suffers like some of the older android devices
No man note 2 is ligtning fast its not old device lol.
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Shouldn't be laggy at all. Do a factory reset and see if that helps. I am over 90% sure that t will.
the Note 2 is lightning fast in my experience IF the software is up-to-date (the original firmware was a bit laggy for me but that lag disappeared with 4.1.2.
Could also be a device on display with people playing around and no reboot in weeks of course....
Depends on when you experience lag. In general, there shouldn't be any. There is however a slight input lag, and some of the touchwiz apps aren't well optimised at all, ie s note.
Actions like opening the dialer, gallery or contacts might not be instant (about the only thing that was actually better with gingerbread...), these also depend on the size of your database, meaning amount of contacts and pictures for instance.
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No lag on mine either, just got it back from Samsung after a screen repair.
Of course, if you go back to your iphone and update to iOS 7 it'll feel a lot more android-y than ever before. My wife has an iPhone 5, I have a Note 2. I can't even read her screen it's so tiny but my phone is certainly not slow or laggy compared to hers.
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Got the opportunity to swap my Iphone 5 for a galaxy Note 2, have owned a note 2 briefly before, but been using iphones for so long I thought id pop into PCworld and have a play on a note 2 again...alas it was terribly laggy, love the screen, a bit lower res than some of the new beasts out there, but still looks fine, quite fancy doing the trade, only the lag on the tester device was awful, could there have been something wrong with it, im not compare Ios with android, so lets not start that game, just would like to know if the device suffers like some of the older android devices
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well if u are stock get a factory reset, or wipe data ,cache and dalvik see if it solves .
Fear that if u have a original one and not 100% clone
Theres a small lag pressing home due to a wait period to see if you are double tapping to get svoice up. I think this can be disabled though.
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Theres a small lag pressing home due to a wait period to see if you are double tapping to get svoice up. I think this can be disabled though.
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Correct and yes it can.
There should be no lag on a note 2.
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Did anyone actually bother to read the OP?
He tried a Note 2 in PC World - that's the store demo unit. Mauled by hundreds of people each day.
That it lags is not surprising, it's amazing that it runs at all.
OP - store demo units tend to get interfered with by all the potential customers who start all the programs and then walk off. You cannot judge a unit based on an in-store one.
Agreed and lije the op asked.
No this device is not like other older Android devices it doesn't suffer from lag.
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