Altough there is a similar thread in Nexus10 forum, I am posting here the same question.
Just got my Note8, and i have noticed imediately this behaviour: when scrolling in portrait mode, pages are deforming, most notably on the left side. For me this is quite disturbing (this is my first Android tablet). I have used a Nexus7 for few days and did not notice such thing.
Here is the video from the other thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4-tKflikYY&feature=youtube_gdata_player.
Is anyone experiencing the same? I wonder if this is a manufacturing defect and should return the tablet, as in the N10 thread someone does not recognize this behaviour.
ramisto said:
Altough there is a similar thread in Nexus10 forum, I am posting here the same question.
Just got my Note8, and i have noticed imediately this behaviour: when scrolling in portrait mode, pages are deforming, most notably on the left side. For me this is quite disturbing (this is my first Android tablet). I have used a Nexus7 for few days and did not notice such thing.
Here is the video from the other thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4-tKflikYY&feature=youtube_gdata_player.
Is anyone experiencing the same? I wonder if this is a manufacturing defect and should return the tablet, as in the N10 thread someone does not recognize this behaviour.
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Same issue here.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18485044/DSC_8338.MOV
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Same issue here.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18485044/DSC_8338.MOV
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Thanks for the feedback. I went back to shop and confirmed it with the demo tablet. The same behaviour seen on the Ipad retina too. Strange enough, sony tablet z was ok, with more pixels than our tablet. Hopefully a custom ROM can solve this one.
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Thanks for the feedback. I went back to shop and confirmed it with the demo tablet. The same behaviour seen on the Ipad retina too. Strange enough, sony tablet z was ok, with more pixels than our tablet. Hopefully a custom ROM can solve this one.
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My Nexus 7 I/O Edition does the same thing. Maybe we just have special eyes? A lot of people simply don't see it.
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My Nexus 7 I/O Edition does the same thing. Maybe we just have special eyes? A lot of people simply don't see it.
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I have only used a Nexus7 32G model and haven't noticed this one (I will ask my friend to test it for me). Nexus7 and Note8 have the same CPU and same resolution, but different GPU, different screen type and screen size. Can't be our eyes, can it? (lol)
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I have only used a Nexus7 32G model and haven't noticed this one (I will ask my friend to test it for me). Nexus7 and Note8 have the same CPU and same resolution, but different GPU, different screen type and screen size. Can't be our eyes, can it? (lol)
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They actually have completely different CPUs. The Nexus 7 has a Tegra 3, the Note 8.0 has an Exynos 4412.
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They actually have completely different CPUs. The Nexus 7 has a Tegra 3, the Note 8.0 has an Exynos 4412.
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I thought that's the chipset, and the CPU core is a Cortex-A9. Looking at the specs for Ipad3, it using the same Cortex core (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_Cortex-A9_MPCore)
That's an interesting thought, I wonder if the Infinity tab, which has high resolution and uses the same core CPU exhibits the same behaviour when scrolling. I'll came back if i have the chance to test it.
I just watched the .mov format file a couple of times, and I'd tried the youtube as well, and I'm still not sure what is being described.
Is this a report that the text is blurring a little as the page is scrolled rapidly up and down?
Not a big issue for me, as I can't read text until it stops moving unless I want to get carsick right here on the couch
It's not enough of a lag between when the page stops moving and when the text is sharp that I notice it, if that is what the video's highlighting.
One thing you can try is getting into developer options and checking the settings for "force GPU rendering" and "disable hardware overlays"
I force gpu rendering and do not disable hardware overlays. On my device, that pair of settings gives me the best quadrant graphics scores. So I tell myself I notice the difference
I have already tried the trick with developer options, and didn't get any improvment.
The issue, for me, is not the text blur during scroll. It is that horizontal lines or text or photos are not horizontal anymore, but oblique, during scroll.
Try, for example, scrolling a google search result in browser, keeping your finger on the screen. I see the right side of the screen going faster than the left side of the screen, hence the sensation of deforming. The same effect i get when scrolling pictures in gallery or tumblr. If i scroll up and down several times the effect is obvious.
I have tested today more devices (Asus TF300, Ipad2) and noticed this effect. Despite my previous statement, tablet Z has the same.
I tend now to believe this as being a "normal" behaviour.
Yes, it's more of a bending and deforming of lines that should be straight when scrolling. Exactly like was described in the post above.
I guess I'm just used to the 0 lag of an AMOLED display...
Just a thought. Could it be a visual illusion? Like when you hold a pencil near one end with two fingers and wave it up and down, the pencil appears to be bending but in reality it is not.
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Just a thought. Could it be a visual illusion? Like when you hold a pencil near one end with two fingers and wave it up and down, the pencil appears to be bending but in reality it is not.
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You just blew my mind maybe
EDIT: Thought about it, nope. My Nexus 7 does the same but the OTHER way, horizontal instead of vertical.
Never noticed anything like that on my note n5110, but i definitely see what the problem is on the video above...it's wobbly. Will check my device again later and let you know. Doesn't seem normal to me but maybe I just never noticed it on my note.
EDIT: Wow I finally see it on my device. It took a lot of playing around, but I managed to consistently reproduce the issue by using tapatalk and scrolling up and down slowly while in portrait mode. I also had to hold the Note further away than I normally would to see the effect. Crazy optical! Since I don't really notice it in everyday situations though it won't be bothersome for me, but I definitely see how it might be annoying for someone who notices it more often. You have some sharp eyes :thumbup::thumbup:
so is that issue present in all N8.0 devices?
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so is that issue present in all N8.0 devices?
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I would assume so, but i only own one Note8 and checked myself another one in the shop.
some guys from russian forum said with 100% confidence that they don't have such issue ...
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some guys from russian forum said with 100% confidence that they don't have such issue ...
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So did I until I finally noticed it. Doesn't mean they are wrong though.
I noticed it on EVERY video review of the device:
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But something is telling me to wait and see what comes out by the end of this month, does anyone feel the same way? Or is anyone waiting to possibly return theirs?
I really hate the lack of support that this phone has. I think it would definitely be more popular if it was the first phone to get ICS as well, besides the Nexus of course.
The Skyrocket.......I just can't do it. LG actually updating the Nitro around the same time as the Skyrocket........I don't think it's going to happen.
I played with both phones, and the stock Nitro was a damn lag fest.
Seriously, what could be coming? A 3D screen (if so, I'm not particularly interested in them). I would imagine the 1280x720 IPS screen of the Nitro is going to be as far as the technology goes for awhile to come.
I do agree that lack of Dev/hacker interest is a bit light for the Nitro at the moment...But the phone only hit the streets Dec 5th and we've already got root, so that ain't nuttin.
You played with the Nitro and Skyrocket, where? If it was at a store, then unfortunately you saw the bloated down version of the Nitro. I assure you when you debloat the Nitro it makes quite a difference, with root and couple of tweaks it's even better still.
I've played with Skyrocket for 3 weeks and can tell you, it's garbage...for starters the screen is awful, it has very visible at some backgrounds vertical "static" lines all over (image can move, but the lines stay, which makes them extremely visible) and colors are all messed up. All that is probably because of the resolution, which is a joke at modern standards. The battery life was as bad as Nitro (yet, I've been using Nitro for just 30 hours).
Right now on Nitro with rooted stock rom I can do more then I could've done with a custom rom on Skyrocket...Now if I could figure out how to disable that damn lock screen...
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I've played with Skyrocket for 3 weeks and can tell you, it's garbage...for starters the screen is awful, it has very visible at some backgrounds vertical "static" lines all over (image can move, but the lines stay, which makes them extremely visible) and colors are all messed up. All that is probably because of the resolution, which is a joke at modern standards. The battery life was as bad as Nitro (yet, I've been using Nitro for just 30 hours).
Right now on Nitro with rooted stock rom I can do more then I could've done with a custom rom on Skyrocket...Now if I could figure out how to disable that damn lock screen...
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I agree, I went through 3 SII's before I gave up. I'm only hesitant about grabbing the Nitro because I want the Note, but maybe I should just go for it. It seems to be performing just as good as the Nexus, if not better in some stuff.
What's the reason for all the LG hate? Is it just the device support, or the build quality?
The build quality is excellent, we are just lacking dev support currently.
Root the phone and install Ram Manager from the Market and you wont even know its the same phone.
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The build quality is excellent, we are just lacking dev support currently.
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+1 on the build quality. Where some of the blogs get off on it feeling cheap I just don't get.
Its all Nexus hype which doesn't really make sense to me. The nexus series is supposed to be a development platform, not a top of the line phone...
Anyways, ram manager has made a significant difference with my phone, I absolutely recommend it.
Screen / Hardware is brilliant ,We can root it, download mode has been discovered, all we need is some custom recovery / ROM !
Just traded in my skyrocket for the nitro. Build quality is not the issue. The issues I've noticed thus far is the lack of optimizations LG has made to Android for this hardware and usability out of the box. There is zero hardware acceleration on the ui and its obvious. The overall sluggishness out of the box is making me second guess my exchange. I'm going to give it a run, but I might be returning this and waiting for the note. PS the screen is pretty sweet though
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Yep, you pretty much nailed it. The phone is lacking in overall polish that Samsung adds to their phones. Scrolling is just smoother and there's generally less "jitter" on Samsung phones. Seems finger-tracking is better as well. HTC/LG/Moto/Sony phones all seem to not bother with optimizing their phones - they just insist on bloating it up and using the fastest processor they can.
I think only ICS can really help this phone out because of the hardware acceleration, no ROM will really do much but get rid of some bloat.
If you can get your hands on a GSM Galaxy Nexus I'd recommend that if you want something similar to the Nitro - Ice Cream Sandwich is just in a different league.
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Just traded in my skyrocket for the nitro. Build quality is not the issue. The issues I've noticed thus far is the lack of optimizations LG has made to Android for this hardware and usability out of the box. There is zero hardware acceleration on the ui and its obvious. The overall sluggishness out of the box is making me second guess my exchange. I'm going to give it a run, but I might be returning this and waiting for the note. PS the screen is pretty sweet though
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+1 on the build quality. Where some of the blogs get off on it feeling cheap I just don't get.
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The back cover feels cheap, the glass also feels like plastic (probably because of unusual rolled edges?).
Speaking of glass, it's dirt magnet, in day time without direct sunlight the oil from hands at certain angle makes it very hard see what's on the screen. Skyrocket doesn't have this problem.
Yeah yeah, I should wash my hands more often, I know, I know.
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Seriously, what could be coming? A 3D screen (if so, I'm not particularly interested in them). I would imagine the 1280x720 IPS screen of the Nitro is going to be as far as the technology goes for awhile to come.
I do agree that lack of Dev/hacker interest is a bit light for the Nitro at the moment...But the phone only hit the streets Dec 5th and we've already got root, so that ain't nuttin.
You played with the Nitro and Skyrocket, where? If it was at a store, then unfortunately you saw the bloated down version of the Nitro. I assure you when you debloat the Nitro it makes quite a difference, with root and couple of tweaks it's even better still.
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720p will be the limit for all of 6 months to a year. Then we're going to see full HD screens in 3d variants with ridiculous refresh rates. Marketing hype
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720p will be the limit for all of 6 months to a year. Then we're going to see full HD screens in 3d variants with ridiculous refresh rates. Marketing hype
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I don't see true HD (1080p) coming to smartphones (or at least not anything under 5"). As it is now, with the 720p on 4.5" screen, that's something like 329ppi. Supposedly that's about the limit that the naked eye can focus to.
Higher than that and not only is it moot, but adds complexity and potential roadblocks. There's already a couple of games I can't run on my Nitro, even using the helper app in the Display settings, because they can't be drawn correctly on the high rez screen.
3D, on the other hand, I agree is likely on its' way. I have a coworker that bought an Android phone recently (can't recall the model) that has the dual-cameras that shoots pics in 3D. So I can't imagine a 3D screen itself isn't too far behind.
l0lz @ the readable native font size on a 1280p <5" screen
you will need a magnifier but it will be crystal clear!
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Seriously, what could be coming?
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I didn't mean screen wise. (Imo, the screen is more than enough)
1. Not LG (Due to support/etc)
2. Better speaker, higher internal memory.
3. Something that doesn't have to be tweaked out of the box to work smoothly.
In regards to the dev Support, we recently got a hold of one of the revs that brought cwm to the Atrix and have sent him some boot files/images.
Stick around and have some hope, this phone is beyond amazing.
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I took my nitro back today for the skyrocket. It's going to take some time to get used to this screen.
I enjoyed the nitro but had an issue with it that just couldn't figure out.
Without deleting any apps other than att bloat, I let the battery run down to charge back up but after that I turned it on and it booted to the lock screen. Went to unlock it and nothing, black screen. Hard reset and same thing.
I'm going to miss that screen but if I can adjust to this 2010 display I think I'll love the skyrocket.
Best of luck to you all on getting dev support for what has the potential to be a great device. And as far as feeling cheap, I actually liked the feel of the battery cover on the nitro.
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I took my nitro back today for the skyrocket. It's going to take some time to get used to this screen.
I enjoyed the nitro but had an issue with it that just couldn't figure out.
Without deleting any apps other than att bloat, I let the battery run down to charge back up but after that I turned it on and it booted to the lock screen. Went to unlock it and nothing, black screen. Hard reset and same thing.
I'm going to miss that screen but if I can adjust to this 2010 display I think I'll love the skyrocket.
Best of luck to you all on getting dev support for what has the potential to be a great device. And as far as feeling cheap, I actually liked the feel of the battery cover on the nitro.
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Just out of curiosity, did you install a 3rd party launcher or anything that might have done that? I know, for example, that if you disable/uninstall the LG launcher you could run into that if there was no 3rd party launcher installed.
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I've played with Skyrocket for 3 weeks and can tell you, it's garbage...for starters the screen is awful, it has very visible at some backgrounds vertical "static" lines all over (image can move, but the lines stay, which makes them extremely visible) and colors are all messed up. All that is probably because of the resolution, which is a joke at modern standards. The battery life was as bad as Nitro (yet, I've been using Nitro for just 30 hours).
Right now on Nitro with rooted stock rom I can do more then I could've done with a custom rom on Skyrocket...Now if I could figure out how to disable that damn lock screen...
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Try the no lock app in the market, it should work.
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Malnilion said:
Just out of curiosity, did you install a 3rd party launcher or anything that might have done that? I know, for example, that if you disable/uninstall the LG launcher you could run into that if there was no 3rd party launcher installed.
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I was using launcher pro but that shouldn't have caused the issue it had. It was probably just a faulty device. They even tried reflasing it the att store which did nothing for it.
I do miss that display.
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Hello,
So I've read a lot of threads about how their devices are perfect and have absolutely no issue. so after going through 5 Nexus devices and still continuing to have the multitouch problem, I am curious to know if people are saying their device is perfect because they actually have NO problems what so ever or if they are saying their device is perfect because they can work around little things here and there.
Note: I have tried using the "take that multitouch" tread and well my problems still persist. some make it slightly better or worse but there has been some improvements. im trying to see everyone's approach on this device.
tl;dr - does your nexus have 0 (I mean absolutely 0 problems not even the slightest multitouch) or does your nexus have bugs here and there but you work around them and hence it is perfect for you?
Thanks,
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Hello,
So I've read a lot of threads about how their devices are perfect and have absolutely no issue. so after going through 5 Nexus devices and still continuing to have the multitouch problem, I am curious to know if people are saying their device is perfect because they actually have NO problems what so ever or if they are saying their device is perfect because they can work around little things here and there.
Note: I have tried using the "take that multitouch" tread and well my problems still persist. some make it slightly better or worse but there has been some improvements. im trying to see everyone's approach on this device.
tl;dr - does your nexus have 0 (I mean absolutely 0 problems not even the slightest multitouch) or does your nexus have bugs here and there but you work around them and hence it is perfect for you?
Thanks,
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Mine's perfect as in it has no light bleed, no gps issues, no multi-touch issues, no random reboots or any other issues that i have noticed so far.
Yeah, mine is perfect. Had the multitouch issues--but the latest update fixed it. Loving my N7.
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Yeah, mine is perfect. Had the multitouch issues--but the latest update fixed it. Loving my N7.
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I am kind of the opposite. I, initially, think I was working perfectly. The only question mark was the GPS, which DID lock, but was a little slow (IMO) to do so. After it locked, it stayed locked for up to about 45 minutes -- the longest time I had it on. Touch screen was perfect.
Update 15Q, caused the GPS to lock very fast and it has held 100% to this point when needed -- an hour + so far. The update did cause some minor touch issues. I have been resolving that with the help of sfhub in the "take that multitouch" thread you mention. It is still not quite 100% perfect yet, but I have not tried all the combinations yet (it is sooo close that I tend to put off trying another file).
Basically, my opinion is that the hardware is 100% ok -- no dust, little or no bleed, internals working properly. I think all the "problems" are software tweaking related, so I am not concerned with returning the unit. I think the issues will eventually resolve, even with the stock software.
I have moved away from Android tablets. I think Android is fine as a phone OS and with them being 5 to 6 inches, I don't see a particular need for a 7 inch tablet. For 10 inch Android hybrids like the Asus Transformer, HP SlateBook x2, Lenovo IdeaTab, etc - they are certainly no laptop replacement despite what the marketers want you to believe. For standard 10 inch Android tablets like the Nexus 10, Note 10, Xperia Tablet - I would much prefer a Windows tablet of similar size such as the Surface Pro 2 even though it will weigh more but in a whole different caliber with Haswell i5 CPU, 8GB RAM, HD 5000 graphics.
My Nexus is almost perfect. My only 'issue' is sometimes when I type, a key will get stuck for 1 or 2 seconds. Not really a big deal but yeah.
Everything works for me.
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I have moved away from Android tablets. I think Android is fine as a phone OS and with them being 5 to 6 inches, I don't see a particular need for a 7 inch tablet. For 10 inch Android hybrids like the Asus Transformer, HP SlateBook x2, Lenovo IdeaTab, etc - they are certainly no laptop replacement despite what the marketers want you to believe. For standard 10 inch Android tablets like the Nexus 10, Note 10, Xperia Tablet - I would much prefer a Windows tablet of similar size such as the Surface Pro 2 even though it will weigh more but in a whole different caliber with Haswell i5 CPU, 8GB RAM, HD 5000 graphics.
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Then why are you in this forum? Your post had nothing to do with this thread.
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Then why are you in this forum? Your post had nothing to do with this thread.
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Doesn't mean I can't help people from my previous experience.
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Doesn't mean I can't help people from my previous experience.
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There are better places to post that. Just saying. It's the equivalent of me going over to the iPhone forums and saying I don't like iPhones. Doesn't make any sense, and it doesn't make you look too bright.
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There are better places to post that. Just saying. It's the equivalent of me going over to the iPhone forums and saying I don't like iPhones. Doesn't make any sense, and it doesn't make you look too bright.
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I did not say I dislike Android tablets so it is not equivalent. In fact I do still like Android on phones.
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I did not say I dislike Android tablets so it is not equivalent. In fact I do still like Android on phones.
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Alright then. It's like me going to an iPad forum and saying I don't like iOS on large screens. I don't own an iPad. If you don't own a tablet, then why post it here? Go to /r/android and discuss that there
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Alright then. It's like me going to an iPad forum and saying I don't like iOS on large screens. I don't own an iPad. If you don't own a tablet, then why post it here? Go to /r/android and discuss that there
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I also did not say I dislike Android on bigger screen.
Play a YouTube video, put the volume around 20 - 30%, listen to the top speaker.
is it still perfect?
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I also did not say I dislike Android on bigger screen.
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Ugh. You know what I mean. If you don't own a N7, why are you here?
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Ugh. You know what I mean. If you don't own a N7, why are you here?
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What I said in my first response.
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What I said in my first response.
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Gah. Circular logic.
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Gah. Circular logic.
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Nexus devices are very similar so even if I don't have a Nexus 4 or Nexus 10 right now, I do have quite a bit of experience in which I can try to help people with.
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Nexus devices are very similar so even if I don't have a Nexus 4 or Nexus 10 right now, I do have quite a bit of experience in which I can try to help people with.
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Very well. Although, saying "Android on a 7in slate is silly" isn't really experience. It's an opinion.
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Very well. Although, saying "Android on a 7in slate is silly" isn't really experience. It's an opinion.
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Again, did not say that. I've used the previous Nexus 7 for a long time and also got this one before official release date. My opinion on 7 inch tablets was developed from my experience. And by experience I can try to help people with, I mean technical experience with Nexus devices.
I like everything about my N7 32gb and consider it perfect...I am on the latest version and have had NO issues w/gps, reboots, etc.
So in that respect it's operating perfect.
I enjoy it much better than my prior iPad mini (ios7, from my experience w/beta releases, is dullsville and difficult to work w/documents, etc. for myself) with the exception that I wish there were more quality accessories available (i.e. bluetooth keyboard cover or case). I really want logitech to make a keyboard case for it. I have to remember though that the high-quality cases/keyboards for the ipad mini even took a few months to arrive on the market.
Oh, an attached stylus would be nice...much like Samsung's Note 8 but side-by-side I still prefer the form and screen resolution of the N7.
I have an original note 10.1 and i'm wondering if any of you have upgraded and if you think it was worth it.
The s/w looks quite different, maybe a question of personal taste.
I think the best part will be the resolution increase but i'm not sure if you notice it that much.
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I have an original note 10.1 and i'm wondering if any of you have upgraded and if you think it was worth it.
The s/w looks quite different, maybe a question of personal taste.
I think the best part will be the resolution increase but i'm not sure if you notice it that much.
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I upgraded and imo it isn't worth it. The resolution is nice but it is best displayed on paper, when I put them side by side i don't notice a night/day difference. The software is much better on the original (see how many people are complaining about the new snote) and root is better on the first as well. Battery life is better on the original.
If I hadn't promised my old one to my nephew I wouldn't have kept the new one.
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Thanks for your helpful comments, you mention some relevant points, i guess i'll be keeping my note for now.
I upgraded and I think the higher res display is well worth it.
They're very different devices. The size, display, and additional features are worth it to me. I like the new multiview, Pen Window, and S Note but not everybody does. I also went from a N2 to a N3 which made the transition a lot easier. The N10.1-14 is a lot closer to the N3 in design and features than the N2 was to the N10.1-12. Going from the N3 to the N10.1-12 was driving me crazy and S Note is no longer compatible with the 2012 version so sharing S Notes requires a N3/N10.1-14 combination. I'm very happy with the upgrade although some things take some getting used to. Like the h/w buttons and phone UI on a tablet. Some people deal with change better than others.
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They're very different devices. The size, display, and additional features are worth it to me. I like the new multiview, Pen Window, and S Note but not everybody does. I also went from a N2 to a N3 which made the transition a lot easier. The N10.1-14 is a lot closer to the N3 in design and features than the N2 was to the N10.1-12. Going from the N3 to the N10.1-12 was driving me crazy and S Note is no longer compatible with the 2012 version so sharing S Notes requires a N3/N10.1-14 combination. I'm very happy with the upgrade although some things take some getting used to. Like the h/w buttons and phone UI on a tablet. Some people deal with change better than others.
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I could not agree more. I picked up my tablet yesterday and can say the following things I have noticed:
1. The screen is better, but it honestly has not blown me away.
2. Camera is way better.
3. The device doesn't work as well with a mouse and keyboard. Not only does it constantly disconnect, the lack of soft keys causes a problem when trying to use my mouse to go to "home" screen, also, previously bumping the mouse against the edge of the screen resulted in panning of the currently displayed homescreen panel to the adjacent side.
4. S-Note is a boss, way better
5. Battery life doesn't seem quite as good.
6. Device boots faster and is faster but not terribly noticeable once booted.
7. Widgets aren't as good in my opinion. (I'm thinking digital clock and alarm)
8. The device looks way nicer.
I went to Best Buy today and saw the new Note 10.1 in display. It looked nice and my wife ask me if I want to upgrade my Note 10.1 2012. Didn't play much with it but the screen was a bit better. The multitasking looks good too but not sure if it's worth the expense right now. I love my old Note and it's my primary tablet/computer. Maybe I should upgrade just because I know my tablet will start falling in performance and battery.
We're in the same boat, really don't know if I should upgrade. I'll do more research.
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3. The device doesn't work as well with a mouse and keyboard. Not only does it constantly disconnect, the lack of soft keys causes a problem when trying to use my mouse to go to "home" screen, also, previously bumping the mouse against the edge of the screen resulted in panning of the currently displayed homescreen panel to the adjacent side.
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This is so odd. I've had a OG G-Tab 10.1, N10.1-12, and now a N10.1-14. Using the same keyboards and mice the N10.1-14 is hands down the best of the three for what you've described. "Best" defined as always auto-connecting when I turn on BT, staying connected while I'm using them, no errant key strokes or mouse positioning, mouse buttons controlling Android functions (EG: right click=back, center key=home, long center key=task manager), and playing nice with other BT devices that also might be connected. It's the first Android device I've owned that I feel comfortable bringing with me as my only "Office" connectivity option. I have a Latin American SM-P601 and don't know if that makes the difference but it's incredibly strange that some folks commend something you're highlighting as a problem.
I started this thread discussing this subject before I even knew some people were having BT peripheral problems.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2526070
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This is so odd. I've had a OG G-Tab 10.1, N10.1-12, and now a N10.1-14. Using the same keyboards and mice the N10.1-14 is hands down the best of the three for what you've described. "Best" defined as always auto-connecting when I turn on BT, staying connected while I'm using them, no errant key strokes or mouse positioning, mouse buttons controlling Android functions (EG: right click=back, center key=home, long center key=task manager), and playing nice with other BT devices that also might be connected. It's the first Android device I've owned that I feel comfortable bringing with me as my only "Office" connectivity option. I have a Latin American SM-P601 and don't know if that makes the difference but it's incredibly strange that some folks commend something you're highlighting as a problem.
I started this thread discussing this subject before I even knew some people were having BT peripheral problems.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2526070
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So is it my particular peripherals, a flaw in my specific device or a generalized problem across several models?
I have the 32 GB wifi model in white, US. All firmwares updated.
I use logitech k810 keyboard and a logitech android mouse.
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So is it my particular peripherals, a flaw in my specific device or a generalized problem across several models?
I have the 32 GB wifi model in white, US. All firmwares updated.
I use logitech k810 keyboard and a logitech android mouse.
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You'll find this post from another thread even stranger...
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I have a logiteck k810 bluetooth keyboard and have no issues with disconnects, whatsoever. Maybe its a problem with the keyboards trying to conserve energy?
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I don't know if @ChrisNee1988 is from the U.S. but if he is and using a U.S. N10.1-14 on the same s/w you are that points to something most likely s/w related on your particular device that's causing the issue(s). If @ChrisNee1988 is using a non-U.S. N10.1-14 and has no issues with the same KB you're using that points to a problem with Samsung's U.S. ROMs. It would be interesting if someone would hard reset their device and try the KB and mouse before loading any third party apps to see if it makes a difference. If it does, people can start to compare notes to figure out which third party app(s) are borking BT connectivity.
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Here's something to try. BT and 2.4GHz Wi-Fi share the same wireless band and sometimes the same antenna(s). See if you're still have disconnect issues with Wi-Fi off and/or connecting to 5GHz instead of 2.4GHz. Just trying to think of things that could be different between international and U.S. N10.1-14 versions.
Okay this was tested with zero apps loaded and at each US firmware update.
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You'll find this post from another thread even stranger...
I don't know if @ChrisNee1988 is from the U.S. but if he is and using a U.S. N10.1-14 on the same s/w you are that points to something most likely s/w related on your particular device that's causing the issue(s). If @ChrisNee1988 is using a non-U.S. N10.1-14 and has no issues with the same KB you're using that points to a problem with Samsung's U.S. ROMs. It would be interesting if someone would hard reset their device and try the KB and mouse before loading any third party apps to see if it makes a difference. If it does, people can start to compare notes to figure out which third party app(s) are borking BT connectivity.
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Here's something to try. BT and 2.4GHz Wi-Fi share the same wireless band and sometimes the same antenna(s). See if you're still have disconnect issues with Wi-Fi off and/or connecting to 5GHz instead of 2.4GHz. Just trying to think of things that could be different between international and U.S. N10.1-14 versions.
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I have a p600 us model so I'm not sure why you have bluetooth issues. I do have the logitech drivers installed on my computer and played around with the function settings but I doubt that would affect connectivity.
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Okay this was tested with zero apps loaded and at each US firmware update.
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I notice in your sig that you're rooted. Did this happen before you rooted too? I know it shouldn't matter but rooting disables the camera in the Sony XZ1 so stranger things have happened. I'm bone stock BTW.
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I notice in your sig that you're rooted. Did this happen before you rooted too? I know it shouldn't matter but rooting disables the camera in the Sony XZ1 so stranger things have happened. I'm bone stock BTW.
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Actually that's referring to my 2012 note 10.1. The 2014 model is stock.
If you are content with the low resolution, it's not a huge upgrade. I actually wish the new Note had more bezel and tapered edges, so the smaller size doesn't impress me much. For me though I could never stand the low res after owning 720p phones. I can't believe people can say it's not night and day between 1280x800 and 2560x1600. It's a HUGE difference, 4x as sharp. My wife upgraded from the old Note because her S4 spoiled her eyes and she just couldn't stand the low res anymore. She could have gotten an iPad Air like all the sheep and saved $50 but nope. I trained her well so she hates Apple as much as I, lol.
Also worth noting that a lot of games render at 1280x800 still, like Real Racing 3 and Asphalt 8, so if you're a big time gamer you might consider that as well.
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If you are content with the low resolution, it's not a huge upgrade. I actually wish the new Note had more bezel and tapered edges, so the smaller size doesn't impress me much. For me though I could never stand the low res after owning 720p phones. I can't believe people can say it's not night and day between 1280x800 and 2560x1600. It's a HUGE difference, 4x as sharp. My wife upgraded from the old Note because her S4 spoiled her eyes and she just couldn't stand the low res anymore. She could have gotten an iPad Air like all the sheep and saved $50 but nope. I trained her well so she hates Apple as much as I, lol.
Also worth noting that a lot of games render at 1280x800 still, like Real Racing 3 and Asphalt 8, so if you're a big time gamer you might consider that as well.
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Getting mine tomorrow... and am glad that games still render at 1280x800... Asphalt8 in max is sometimes slow on my old 10.1 and in 2500x1600 it would be to much for the new Note 2014
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The upgrade from the old 10.1 to the new 10.1 is huge for me. The old 10.1 made my eye balls bleed when reading for more then a few minutes.. the resolution is huge when it comes to text. The new 10.1 is pleasure to read books on..
The rest is about the same. True, the new s note is pretty bad.. but i use lecturenotes exclusively anyway.. much better note taking app.
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Coming from the previous Note 10.1 the weak point for me was the resolution... Im so glad they decided to leave 720p behind.
The fit and finish are much better to me as well and i love this tablet and cannot see getting another, unless the 2015 is better!
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Coming from the previous Note 10.1 the weak point for me was the resolution... Im so glad they decided to leave 720p behind.
The fit and finish are much better to me as well and i love this tablet and cannot see getting another, unless the 2015 is better!
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It was the much improved screen resolution that persuaded me to upgrade from the gen 1 Note 10.1, the screen on the 2014 is leagues ahead. When I bought the original note I never envisaged using it for much reading, but thanks to Taptu, Pocket, EZpdf and Moon Reader, I used it far more than I expected for reading. The 2014 has a whole more grown-up feel to it (this is probably also helped because I've bought a black one this time around!). the original note was a very good tablet, the 2014 is a fantastic tablet.
I did have a small amount of lag when I first got the 2014, but this has gone by reducing the animation settings. Yes it's a great upgrade to the original Note 10.1 IMHO, but of course this may depend if your expectations differ.
After tweaking (aka stopping Samsungs 10 million programs from running in the background constantly) this tablet has been perfect. I understand them doing it for the popular "experience" but you know us on this website aren't your average users..so I don't need the dog and pony show lol. Which why lag is gone and battery lasts longer.
I've had about 8 tablets in my life, this has been the best, and not just because it's the newest. It has everything I need. High res, long battery, runs everything, built quality (my 3rd samsung tablet and they finally got build down), great size and weight....sd card.
Honestly I don't care about the pen I'm just a tablet fan.
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I was hoping to use my Tab S 8.4 with One Note. However, the lag is terrible on typing! It doesn't matter if I use the Samsung keyboard or SwiftKey. They are both terrible, and it makes the program unusable. I get no lag in the app using my Nexus 5. Anyone see the same thing?
sparhawk6 said:
I was hoping to use my Tab S 8.4 with One Note. However, the lag is terrible on typing! It doesn't matter if I use the Samsung keyboard or SwiftKey. They are both terrible, and it makes the program unusable. I get no lag in the app using my Nexus 5. Anyone see the same thing?
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Just tried it on my 8.4 and there is quite a bit of lag when typing. Maybe it's not optimised for the Exynos processor?
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I was hoping to use my Tab S 8.4 with One Note. However, the lag is terrible on typing! It doesn't matter if I use the Samsung keyboard or SwiftKey. They are both terrible, and it makes the program unusable. I get no lag in the app using my Nexus 5. Anyone see the same thing?
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On my 10.5 I am getting some slight lag but by no means does it make the app unusable for me. This is using the stock keyboard. Of course OneNote is pretty much indexing everything as you type it so it will lag more than just typing in a Web forum or word processor.
One thing I have done is to disable DVFS using Wanam Xposed. This is something Samsung implements which throttles your CPU to save battery life. IMHO it is a dumb idea and causes problems so I turn it off. I've found this improves on keyboard lag system wide so I may be getting better results in OneNote than you are.
Swiftkey is a lagfest for me on any device so can't comment on that.
One other thought. If OneNote is optimized for lower resolution screens that may also be having an effect on how it performs on the Tab S. Just making guesses at this point.
Anyway, so on the 10.5 not perfect but quite usable.
Works perfectly on my ASUS Transformer Infinity TF701. Another example of an app not jiving with the Exynos Processor. Abysmal.......
xRevilatioNx said:
Works perfectly on my ASUS Transformer Infinity TF701. Another example of an app not jiving with the Exynos Processor. Abysmal.......
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Lol, you really need a new word
You guys keep blaming Exynos for everything. 5420 has been out on the N3, N10.1-14, Pros, and even Chromebook since last fall. If anything, I'd say a lot of the general performance issues being lamented have to do with the video drivers being used with the introduction of AMOLED. It's the only thing different h/w wise from the aforementioned devices.
Everyone not happy with their Galaxy tab s, just return them... Then you
Won't have any lag...
BarryH_GEG said:
You guys keep blaming Exynos for everything. 5420 has been out on the N3, N10.1-14, Pros, and even Chromebook since last fall. If anything, I'd say a lot of the general performance issues being lamented have to do with the video drivers being used with the introduction of AMOLED. It's the only thing different h/w wise from the aforementioned devices.
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OneNote runs just fine on my Tab S.
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Everyone not happy with their Galaxy tab s, just return them... Then you
Won't have any lag...
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If only they would, if only they would...
Wow, some serious fan boys in here. So you are able to type rapidly?
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mitchellvii said:
On my 10.5 I am getting some slight lag but by no means does it make the app unusable for me. This is using the stock keyboard. Of course OneNote is pretty much indexing everything as you type it so it will lag more than just typing in a Web forum or word processor.
One thing I have done is to disable DVFS using Wanam Xposed. This is something Samsung implements which throttles your CPU to save battery life. IMHO it is a dumb idea and causes problems so I turn it off. I've found this improves on keyboard lag system wide so I may be getting better results in OneNote than you are.
Swiftkey is a lagfest for me on any device so can't comment on that.
One other thought. If OneNote is optimized for lower resolution screens that may also be having an effect on how it performs on the Tab S. Just making guesses at this point.
Anyway, so on the 10.5 not perfect but quite usable.
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Typing nonsense with one hand is not a real test.
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Here's my quick example video. You can see it really bad at the end. There is about a 2-3 second lag from me typing to it appearing on the screen. After a few sentences, the lag makes typing impossible. I need to be able to type quickly for taking notes at work.
Can one of you who is reporting no lag type a few sentences quickly, and post the video? I want to find out if I have a defective device.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hosh3ceetvM
sparhawk6 said:
Here's my quick example video. You can see it really bad at the end. There is about a 2-3 second lag from me typing to it appearing on the screen. After a few sentences, the lag makes typing impossible. I need to be able to type quickly for taking notes at work.
Can one of you who is reporting no lag type a few sentences quickly, and post the video? I want to find out if I have a defective device.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hosh3ceetvM
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Are you rooted? Can you disable DVFS? I noticed that with DVFS enabled typing would bog down the more I typed. The Tab was throttling due to heating and with DVFS disabled this never happens. This isn't so much a hardware thing as a Touchwiz thing. It may be that typing makes it engage faster with the amoled screen than with other Touchwiz devices. My Note 3 is quite smooth. Have you tried an alternate launcher like Nova?
Or it could be you have a defective tab. Sadly there seems to have been a bad run. People who have had theirs replaced have been much more satisfied. I can't video actually typing sentences but will just try it and see what I think.
** UPDATE: Ok, just typed an entire paragraph in OneNote on my 10.5. Maybe a microsecond laggier than typing here but then again OneNote is indexing and this is not. Still, completely usable and no delays as you are experiencing.
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Have you considered using THUMB KEYBOARD from the play store? It is free and a very fast, well conceived keyboard, especially for use with tablets and the autocorrect is second to none. Give that a try too.
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OneNote runs just fine on my Tab S.
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If only they would, if only they would...
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Didn't you just say you experienced some lag. But it was useable?
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Didn't you just say you experienced some lag. But it was useable?
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Yes, perhaps a nanosecond but nothing like the 3 seconds the OP is experiencing. Imminently useable. I can see how in his use case there is a serious problem. There can be 100 reasons for that nanosecond lag other than the Exynos processor somehow being inadequate.
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Yes, perhaps a nanosecond but nothing like the 3 seconds the OP is experiencing. Imminently usable. I can see how in his use case there is a serious problem. There can be 100 reasons for that nanosecond lag other than the Exynos processor somehow being inadequate.
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It's not that the exynos is inadequate, it's that the OneNote app 'might' not be optimised properly for the exynos processor, which seems to be the case here. Obviously the exynos processor can handle an app like OneNote.
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simacca said:
It's not that the exynos is inadequate, it's that the OneNote app 'might' not be optimised properly for the exynos processor, which seems to be the case here. Obviously the exynos processor can handle an app like OneNote.
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For the OP he clearly has a serious problem. As configured with my 10.5 this is a non issue. If the suggestions I made are not of help to the OP I suggest he consider replacing his tablet with a newer production run model. 3 second input lag is an aberration and not acceptable.
P.S. Lack of OneNote optimization with Exynos may exist but since my experience is so superior to his it leads me to believe the issue is elsewhere. YMMV.
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Are you rooted? Can you disable DVFS? I noticed that with DVFS enabled typing would bog down the more I typed. The Tab was throttling due to heating and with DVFS disabled this never happens. This isn't so much a hardware thing as a Touchwiz thing. It may be that typing makes it engage faster with the amoled screen than with other Touchwiz devices. My Note 3 is quite smooth. Have you tried an alternate launcher like Nova?
Or it could be you have a defective tab. Sadly there seems to have been a bad run. People who have had theirs replaced have been much more satisfied. I can't video actually typing sentences but will just try it and see what I think.
** UPDATE: Ok, just typed an entire paragraph in OneNote on my 10.5. Maybe a microsecond laggier than typing here but then again OneNote is indexing and this is not. Still, completely usable and no delays as you are experiencing.
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Have you considered using THUMB KEYBOARD from the play store? It is free and a very fast, well conceived keyboard, especially for use with tablets and the autocorrect is second to none. Give that a try too.
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I appreciate the suggestion, but disabling DVFS had no effect.
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I appreciate the suggestion, but disabling DVFS had no effect.
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Hmm OK. Did you reboot after disabling? Unless you are having some weird conflict with another app you are using or something about your setup you shouldn't be getting the lag you are.
This is not a well-loved app and apparently a recent version update pissed a lot of people off. I use S Note since Samsung released a Windows version because most of my "notes" are mobile>desktop not the other way around.
S Note for Windows If anyone wants to play with it...
http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/usefulsoftware/snote/
Direct download...
http://www.samsung.com/global/download/snotedownload
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Wow, some serious fan boys in here. So you are able to type rapidly?
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Not about being a fan boy, just tired of reading the same thing in every thread. This tablet should have ZERO lag, it is a beast. The screen should NOT be yellowed/distorted at all or be anything except phenomenal. If it's not, then return it for a different one or a replacement.
Like a few have said, there was obviously a bad batch because a few are having issues which I personally wouldn't be satisfied with, BUT others are not experiencing them in the slightest.
If you would like video proof I can make a video when I get off, but I literally have ZERO lag anywhere in this tablet and the screen color is amazing(obviously you'd have to view the video on something other than your tab s for true color reference).
My bottom line is you shouldn't have to pay $600 for something and worry with these defects. There shouldn't even be threads created about it. Return or exchange it. /thread.
Hey Everyone,
Curious to know if anyone has buyers remorse over making the switch to this device from another device?
Does anyone ever run the phone within the confines of the original OS?
What is your real world expectation 6 months from now with this device?
How long do you plan on keeping the device?
What is the most important everyday feature that is a keeper & deal breaker?
How has the form factor impacted the way you look at phones in terms of the screen size vs the size of the device?
Also as a side note. Have anyone ever worked with a fully calibrated monitor like a Eizo or a Ben-Q?
Or for industry folks, any panasonic or Sony broadcast monitors? The correlation being those monitors have the same look at least to my eyes.
Finally have you ever acquired a device that you did not initially have buyers remorse?
I have the phone myself. I am just curious to what the community at large is vibing at the moment...
I'm happy with the G3 especially the screen and camera. I jumped to the G3 from the LG Flex. Nice that the T-Mobile G3 comes with a unlocked bootloader and I'm sure development will be good with time. I'm a phone junkie and usually just keeps phones around 6 months. Jump helps with that.
Sometimes I DO regret getting this phone. It's a good phone, but it's just not the earth shattering, mega phone I was hoping for. Even rooted with no bloatware, i still experience lag, freezes, and subpar battery life. Also, maybe it's just my device, but I'm really not impressed with the screen at all. The blacks seem way too "milky", and i really can't see the difference between this and a 1080 screen, except for when I look at certain photos or videos.
The camera is nice for a 13mp shooter. That's really the main positive.
I returned it after 2 weeks. To many performance trade offs for the QHD screen. Once the more powerful phones hit later this year (Shamue and Note 4) the G3 will struggle. Although that's why the Prime is being released.
Curious what other 5.5" screen are you comparing it to?
Me too returned it after 2 weeks, and the reason was just the screen, everything else is great.
First, couldn't stand this yellowish tinted screen and the poor blacks, and second because of the lag/stuttering
Was it lagging in dual window mode or playing a game?
Or was it on a productivity App?
Or was it simple browsing?
Or transitioning from on app to the next?
As I never used dual window, I can't say if it lags there...
Most annoying was the stuttering to me, and this happened nearly everywhere, transitions, scrolling...
But Lg will fix it sooner or later I guess.
As I wrote, the main reason for returning it was the display...
grifter9931 said:
Was it lagging in dual window mode or playing a game?
Or was it on a productivity App?
Or was it simple browsing?
Or transitioning from on app to the next?
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Some people have the G3 lag some don't. I don't notice any lag. From what I read on here the lag is simple fix by changing the launcher and or a setting or two. Removing bloat helps too.
My screen is bight and battery is good enough for me. I guess I was lucky and got a good G3.
As far as the G3 being a "wow" phone it's not but I think those days are over for phones. I was going to wait for the Note 4 but after seeing the leaked pictures I think I'm glad I didn't.
Got the D855 32GB..
All I can say is, I'm so glad i didn't put much attention on others negative opinion about the device...
We all knew it come's with QHD display before buying it, I don't get why too many about it...
As of me, I'm very happy with it... Coming from nexus 7 2013, my criteria for next device was, at least 3gb ram, 32gb internal storage with external (a 64gb internal w/o ext is also okay)... Just saying by the way. =)
There are always those people who have remorse after buying a device by the way..
I've come from an iPhone 4S!:silly:
I bought the International version with 32GB and the 3GB ram (F400S) and I've not found it laggy at all, even with the all the Korean bloatware apps on there.
The main reason I purchased it was because I was so impressed with the LG G2 that I bought for my wife a few months back, just loved the design and screen.
Hopefully when the "Ints" get their bootloader unlocked and we can nandroid backup and get some cool roms (come on PardusHD!) then it should run even smoother.
The battery life isn't as good as I expected, but then I'm usually charging using a USB port (500mAH) so it will take ages and I've hardly ever had it at 100%:laugh: but it's way better than the iPhone 4s battery life.
I'm a little disappointed in the screen, I don't find it as "bright" as the Samsung S ones, I've just taken off the auto brightness as I found it too low, in any light environment and currently set it at 85%.
Overall design is nice and it's very light. I'm not a fan of big screens, but then that's the way they're all heading nowadays....
flapmio said:
I've just taken off the auto brightness as I found it too low, in any light environment and currently set it at 85%
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Sole reason of fast battery discharge
I don't have this phone yet but I know the 32g has 3 gigs of ram and the 16 has 2 gigs. Might be why some suffer lag. Make sure when comparing you specify which version folks
Had the 32GB/3GB version
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Had the 32GB/3GB version
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Hi Fir3blade,
Can you link a video of the stuttering if you know one?
Sorry didn't make myself a video, saw the stuttering in some video reviews, but I don't remember them, as I watched quite lots, sorry ☺
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Hi Fir3blade,
Can you link a video of the stuttering if you know one?
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Here's an example of the stutter in games. At 8min 20.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=paMb_cgVkug
I don't have buyer's remorse exactly, but I'm not thrilled with the device in every way. I like the camera a lot better than the one on my HTC One M7, and the G3 battery life is better than my M7. That's really it. My M7 felt snappier in every way, and the screen looked better. Once the Nexus 6 comes out I will likely sell the G3 and pick one up. I just can't stand all this locked bootloader nonsense and the lack of development that occurs as a consequence.
Batfink33 said:
Here's an example of the stutter in games. At 8min 20.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=paMb_cgVkug
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TY I am trying to recreate the stutter as we speak... Interesting stuff
Fir3blade said:
Sorry didn't make myself a video, saw the stuttering in some video reviews, but I don't remember them, as I watched quite lots, sorry ☺
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I noticed a few myself. I wonder why the reviewers did not mention the stuttering.....