Excel in RT - Windows RT General

Quick question for those that have a RT tablet. How many rows, columns and worksheets can you access in Excel RT?

ragingredbull said:
Quick question for those that have a RT tablet. How many rows, columns and worksheets can you access in Excel RT?
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All of them.

I asked a simple question really, and expected a simple answer, not a "simple" answer
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No such thing as excel rt.
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He's right. It's the full Excel as you'd expect on normal Windows.
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Robin2 said:
He's right. It's the full Excel as you'd expect on normal Windows.
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Minus plugins and I think certain/all macros. Maths functions are still there though.

You can access all cell as on Excel can. But the CPU of Windows RT not powerful as normal Windows CPU. It maybe slower with the large data.

Also only 2GB of RAM, so yeah, realllllly huge spreadsheets would be slow. But any XLSX you can create or open on the desktop should work fine on the tablet. I'm guessing XLSM would open too; you just wouldn't be able to execute the macros.

You should be able to have as many rows and columns as on any 32 bit computer. How many that is I don't know.

SilverHedgehog said:
You should be able to have as many rows and columns as on any 32 bit computer. How many that is I don't know.
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More than anyone would need
I just tried horizontal scrolling in libre office calc which is the libre/open office equivalent to excel. Got to GBH, gave up going further. From memory I think you can hit over 50000 vertically.

Here's MS's specs http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/excel-help/excel-specifications-and-limits-HA103980614.aspx?CTT=1

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browser - limit of 4 open windows?

Guys, is it normal that the browser on 2.1/Desire limits you to a max of 4 open windows/tabs? I get an error message about maximum number of windows reached, and if I have 4 open I no longer get the "open in new window" option...
yes it is normal.
ffs
riz157 said:
yes it is normal.
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Really? That's woeful. What have I just bought on 2 year contract?
Any way around this? Stock android can do 8 can't it?
Just get a different browser: steel, dolphin, opera - take a pick.
Don't really see why you would need more that 4 anyway. It's a phone, not a netbook
I really can't see why limit it to only 4... and I easily open more then 4 windows when I normally brows... even the iPhone isn't limited to only 4...
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Yea have to admit that I often have many many many tabs open, and often get restricted by the tab limit. Although I love the browser too much to get annoyed by it.
the limit is annoying. especially when viewing wikipedia that could have many links i want to check

[Hack]Turn pages in Acrobat Reader faster

This is a small hack for Acrobat Reader which allows you to skip around 30 pages in landscape mode and around 13 in portrait mode by pressing previous/next buttons.
Next button won`t make a last jump at the end of the document.Install the xap from the archive to use it(the hack is a modified original reader dll).You can also modify nextPage_Click and prevPage_Click methods in AdobeReader.il(ldc.r8 25.0 does all the magic here) to alter the jump distance, then build it with ilasm as a dll and make a new xap.
h**ps://rapidshare.com/files/460156370/AdobeReader.zip (* is t)
Would be nice to stop it from rotating as its a pain in the ass trying to look at aviation charts and such
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dude6595 said:
Would be nice to stop it from rotating as its a pain in the ass trying to look at aviation charts and such
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Can you give a link to the pdf you have problem with? Btw if i wont be able to fix the bug, you can still scroll pages using the screen, not the buttons, its not that painful for small docs(<30 pages), it only becomes an issue with real books in pdf format.
I would love to see reflow come to Adobe reader for wp7, I'm guessing we need to wait for Adobe to fix that.
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Its not with just one or two...its any landscape pdf
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WP7 Needs Notifications Menu

Considering windows mobile had it before both ios and android we need it back on wp7. Live tiles are great but when the phone is in your pocket and a app gives a notification that's not on the homescreen how are u suppose to know?
Would it be possible for a app to be made for this or is it just something Microsoft would have to add?
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deadwrong03 said:
Considering windows mobile had it before both ios and android we need it back on wp7. Live tiles are great but when the phone is in your pocket and a app gives a notification that's not on the homescreen how are u suppose to know?
Would it be possible for a app to be made for this or is it just something Microsoft would have to add?
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This has already been discussed on several occasions. It's a Microsoft thing, developers currently can't do anything about it.

Leave us alone, Microsoft

Microsoft, why do you care so much that we're running desktop applications on our Surfaces? It's clear that you put a ton of effort into RT 8.1's lockdown.
We're running desktop applications because we like your device. We're giving your device added value. People have been avoiding Surface RT because it can't run most programs they love, and we're trying to alleviate that.
I know that you're reading this forum, and that this will all on deaf ears. But I have to try.
Help over here too. If we get a lot of people to rant. They would have to listen..
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...ommunity/4c6c2e37-fdca-496f-a40a-158062b533da
Making my paragraph lol.
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A lot of people dont understand the finality of Windows RT.
RT is jusy like Android or iOS, a tablet OS not a desktop OS. For x86 applications, use a W8 tablet with x86 architecture.
Personnaly on my PC i use a lot the desktop, on my Surface i only use ModernUI, it's made for, fast and clean.
Caramel said:
A lot of people dont understand the finality of Windows RT.
RT is jusy like Android or iOS, a tablet OS not a desktop OS. For x86 applications, use a W8 tablet with x86 architecture.
Personnaly on my PC i use a lot the desktop, on my Surface i only use ModernUI, it's made for, fast and clean.
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RT is far closer to Windows 8 than to Android or iOS. Android and iOS don't have huge chunks of API and features that are flat out locked out seemingly for product tier purposes.
Comparing RT and iOS/Android is comparing apples and oranges, it just doesn't work.
Possibly even more to the point, Android - notably, the most successful mobile OS on the planet, by a long shot - not only supports arbitrary code and (frequently) rooting, custom OSes, etc, it also supports doing things like chrooting to a (more traditional) Linux environment.
Microsoft has managed to create something that is most of a desktop OS, and yet is arguably *more* locked down than the most popular mobile OS. I do not understand why they would have chosen to do this, or why, after we managed to defeat much of the lockdown, they decided it was worth developer and tester time to re-instate it...
EDIT: Hell, this is an opportunity for Microsoft to achive some positive market differentiation with regard to Apple. Apple is constantly re-locking iOS, breaking jailbreaks as fast as they can. Microsoft is in a great position here to say "while we lock the OS down by default on RT to ensure the best possible security and user experience, we also welcome the tinkerers who are enthusiastic about the Windows platform and desire a deeper level of access." or something similar. Position themselves, and Windows RT, as the OS option that won't turn around and bite its most enthusiastic fans on the ass.
#SurfaceHasNoPurpose
Unlock the Surface!
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xWolf13 said:
#SurfaceHasNoPurpose
Unlock the Surface!
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don't you mean unlock windows RT? There are more RT devices than just the surface RT and there are 2 surfaces of which only 1 is locked...
SixSixSevenSeven said:
don't you mean unlock windows RT? There are more RT devices than just the surface RT and there are 2 surfaces of which only 1 is locked...
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Ehh. Yeah lol
Caramel said:
A lot of people dont understand the finality of Windows RT.
RT is jusy like Android or iOS, a tablet OS not a desktop OS. For x86 applications, use a W8 tablet with x86 architecture.
Personnaly on my PC i use a lot the desktop, on my Surface i only use ModernUI, it's made for, fast and clean.
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Yes.. 100% correct. I wouldn't say MS "locked out" anything from RT.. They just didn't port it. And with good reason.. RT has a targeted set of use cases so it doesnt make much sense for them to port over things that a fraction of the RT audience would use. Full "thick" apps are legacy and I feel like the desktop will be gone once its legacy requirements are for certain apps. Remember, RT isn't just a recompile of windows for ARM.. It was an entire kernel level and up overhaul from win32 that they made to look like traditional win8. Sure, some code/runtime libraries may have been ported over but certain components (e.g. domain support/netlogon) probably have deep ties into the kernel and other parts of the OS that just didn't make sense to support, so greying out a button in the UI was a quick fix.
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libbycm said:
Yes.. 100% correct. I wouldn't say MS "locked out" anything from RT.. They just didn't port it. And with good reason.. RT has a targeted set of use cases so it doesnt make much sense for them to port over things that a fraction of the RT audience would use. Full "thick" apps are legacy and I feel like the desktop will be gone once its legacy requirements are for certain apps. Remember, RT isn't just a recompile of windows for ARM.. It was an entire kernel level and up overhaul from win32 that they made to look like traditional win8. Sure, some code/runtime libraries may have been ported over but certain components (e.g. domain support/netlogon) probably have deep ties into the kernel and other parts of the OS that just didn't make sense to support, so greying out a button in the UI was a quick fix.
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RT is essentially a direct port of Windows 8. The only notable thing it doesn't have is full DirectX or OpenGL. It's not an overhaul, it is quite literally just a recompile targeting ARM.
The reason it doesn't have domain support is because it's running at the level of a home basic copy. There are hacks to get the tablet to join a domain, and they've been discussed here (in fact, I believe that mamaich was the one to get them to work originally)
Don't spout a bunch of crap unless you actually know what you're talking about.
Myriachan said:
Microsoft, why do you care so much that we're running desktop applications on our Surfaces? It's clear that you put a ton of effort into RT 8.1's lockdown.
We're running desktop applications because we like your device. We're giving your device added value. People have been avoiding Surface RT because it can't run most programs they love, and we're trying to alleviate that.
I know that you're reading this forum, and that this will all on deaf ears. But I have to try.
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When it comes to pure productivity, Desktop is better than Modern-UI, because it's apps are suited for precision input devices. That's why Photoshop works so well on Surface Pro and Office 2013 works well on our Surface RTs- when it comes to work, we use our cover keyboards and toucpads/mice and get the job done. I do think that there should be some more openness about the RT Desktop so that users could install simple Desktop tools to accompany this productive side of Windows 8 - the Desktop, like WinRAR (I don't like being taken to touch friendly UI when I work with files, and I prefer drag & drop while doing so anyway) and, perhaps, something like Photoshop Elements. Of course, Desktop app selection could be limited to what Ms approves via Store, but I just think that Desktop is not a thing to be gotten rid of, like some of you would prefer. I think it is to be embraced as an environment of sit-down productivity, and allowing some baby apps to run on our RTs would only be a good thing.
Desktop computer "sit-down productivity" professionals, on the other hand, should have an option of classic Start menu available, but that's a different topic.
I truly don't understand the obsession with "classic Start menu" - from a productivity standpoint, the 8.1 Start screen is just as good as the Win7 Start menu; you hit the Windows button, type a few letters, and hit Enter (8.0 isn't *quite* as good because results are segregated into "Apps" and "Settings" and it takes a lot of extra keystrokes to move between them). With that said, you'll note that one of the desktop apps for RT 8.0 is the open-source ClassicStartMenu...
Myriachan said:
Microsoft, why do you care so much that we're running desktop applications on our Surfaces? It's clear that you put a ton of effort into RT 8.1's lockdown.
We're running desktop applications because we like your device. We're giving your device added value. People have been avoiding Surface RT because it can't run most programs they love, and we're trying to alleviate that.
I know that you're reading this forum, and that this will all on deaf ears. But I have to try.
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I don't want Microsoft to "leave the RT hacking community alone." I want them to openly support it. I want Microsoft to open up the ARM desktop to third party apps, including unsigned user generated content.
Let's face it: RT has barely made a dent in the market place and what enthusiasm third party hardware manufacturers may have had for the platform is quickly drying up. The Windows Store is a barren wasteland compared to the Apple App market or the Google Play store. Open up the desktop to developers and you'll see a bunch of popular and niche, open source projects ported to the platform. It would add tremendous value to the ARM architecture.
I recently got an RT tablet very cheaply thanks to a hookup who attended a Microsoft conference. It was my first real experience with Windows 8 and I found that it exceeded all my expectations except for two areas: a lack of Metro apps, and the inability to install third party desktop apps.
Having a machine with a fully functional desktop environment but not being able to install additional desktop applications is a bit like being allowed to chew your food but not swallow it.
I do hope someone from Microsoft is listening, and pays heed, because for me, at least, my Surface RT will likely be my last RT device if the desktop remains locked down.
dsf3g said:
I don't want Microsoft to "leave the RT hacking community alone." I want them to openly support it. I want Microsoft to open up the ARM desktop to third party apps, including unsigned user generated content.
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This would also be an acceptable solution =) They could add a BIOS option to change the Secure Boot policy GUID, with appropriate visible warnings about how the ability to run non-Windows Store applications also potentially opens up your system to malware.
Their current policy is very much, "oh this nice Windows 8 desktop environment... that's just for us, sorry".
If they'd allow desktop applications on the Windows Store, that'd also be nice.

How is Hancom Office compared with Office Suite 7 Pro

Hello, how is Hancom Office compared with Office Suite 7 Pro? Is Handcom better in all aspects?
HANCOM is better than everything in every respect. Seriously its 99% microsoft office down to all those neat options I never use. It even looks like office with drop down windows and everything
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Its the forst office suite for android that you could actually use for real work (with a bluetooth keyboard of course)
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Duly.noted said:
HANCOM is better than everything in every respect. Seriously its 99% microsoft office down to all those neat options I never use. It even looks like office with drop down windows and everything
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Its the forst office suite for android that you could actually use for real work (with a bluetooth keyboard of course)
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Totally agree HANCOM is as close to Microsoft Office as it gets. IT IS GREAT!
i purchased the 7 pro probably like over a year. but now when i bought the pro 12.2 i didnt bother to install it because the HANCOM is freaking awesome! this is the reason why i returned the surface pro 2!
Hancom is better. Comparing it directly with Microsoft Office 2013 on a Touch screen laptop. This one is better.
flipper2006 said:
Hancom is better. Comparing it directly with Microsoft Office 2013 on a Touch screen laptop. This one is better.
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I like hancom but I havent been able to look at these side by side. Is this a legitimate opinion based on using both?
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Does anyone know if they will offer on the 10.1 2014? My friend wants the SP2 for PA school because of OneNote, likes the NotePro but 12.2 is to big for her. She would take the 10.1 but Office suite is just garbage.
nymviper1126 said:
Does anyone know if they will offer on the 10.1 2014? My friend wants the SP2 for PA school because of OneNote, likes the NotePro but 12.2 is to big for her. She would take the 10.1 but Office suite is just garbage.
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Evernote is so much better then one note. I used Onenote first and did a lot of stuff and thought this was great, but the first issue was I couldn't sync my one note without using extra software (2 years ago), but then found Evernote and it does everything for free AND with the 12.2 it gives 1 year subscript to premium service. You can share evernote notebooks with different people ect.
flipper2006 said:
Evernote is so much better then one note. I used Onenote first and did a lot of stuff and thought this was great, but the first issue was I couldn't sync my one note without using extra software (2 years ago), but then found Evernote and it does everything for free AND with the 12.2 it gives 1 year subscript to premium service. You can share evernote notebooks with different people ect.
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She likes to be able to drag and drop out of PPTs and such. Also, cant say anything against installing windows program she may need
Duly.noted said:
I like hancom but I havent been able to look at these side by side. Is this a legitimate opinion based on using both?
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Provided you don't need advanced editing features then yes.
As much as I think Hancom Word is one of the best of its class on Android a full replacement of Microsoft it isn't. One feature that may be critical for those in the market for a "Pro" product is track changes support. I may be wrong, but I can't find it. There's commenting but no track changes options. A simple test that I did was create a document in Word 2007 and saved it into my Dropbox with track changes turned ON. I then loaded that file with Hancom Word, edited and saved it, at which point the file was immediately updated in dropbox. At no time did Hancom Word give any indication of track changes being on, and upon opening the file back up on my workstation the edits were visible with no trace of the changes being tracked. To verify I deleted the edits that were made on the tablet from within Word 2007 on my workstation and immediately the changes were flagged as deleted. Back on the tablet, the markups were invisible BUT the space within which the deleted text should have been was still there (i.e. if I deleted 3 hard lines between two paragraphs there would still be 3 carriage returns visible between those paragraphs in Hancom Word but not visilble in word with review display options set to final).
Lack of track changes is not a deal breaker for me since when I travel I carry my laptop and my tablet and when I'm without my laptop its because I do not intend to do serious editing, but I could see it being an issue for those looking to replace a laptop.
To me if you must have full office compatibility get a surface pro and use office on it. This comes in second, and how close it comes is subjective based upon needs. Unfortunately there's very little information on Hancom's site to sell the product to users on its features so it's difficult for people to decide prior to purchase.
I work for Samsung and during my training on the new software they told me that Hancom office has approximately 60% of all the features of MS Office. It does not however have some of the programming features that some people may need, I have found out the hard way as a student needed these features and I was unable to help him out. Most people will use about 40% of MS office, so this over exceeds what the majority of people need from the software.
the only thing that will be better is the red line or the blue line that come under the word when you make a grammar or spelling mistake. I would love if they have it so you can type and check it later becasue sometime I have some Idea and I have to type it fast then get back and fix any mistake I made because it is clear with the line below the worlds
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woowdy said:
the only thing that will be better is the red line or the blue line that come under the word when you make a grammar or spelling mistake. I would love if they have it so you can type and check it later becasue sometime I have some Idea and I have to type it fast then get back and fix any mistake I made because it is clear with the line below the worlds
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It has a spell checker that scans the entire document for mistakes and lets you replace them
Duly.noted said:
It has a spell checker that scans the entire document for mistakes and lets you replace them
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I will check it out. Thanks
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Spell Checker
The spell checker is a bit hit and miss, if you use a word with an apostrophe in it it won't count the whole word together, ie it doesn't count the t in "didn't" so it thinks you spelt it wrong.
The major glaring omission is the lack of a word count feature! I contacted Hancom about this and they said they would consider adding it
Other than that though it really is great, far better than anything else I've tried.
I know from my experiance (cause of my language is RTL) that is polaris work perfect.
I have bought the note pro also to use excel for work so really wonder what would be the best ☺
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Just checked it and it works perfect !!!
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As a writer/journalist, I think hancom word is great, and does all I need it to do. I do most of my writing on word for the mac on my desktop mac. But now I'm using the np and Hword more than I did with my macbook air that I sold when I decided to buy the np12. I'm hoping Hword becomes available for my note 10.1 2014. I use a bluetooth keyboard and bluetooth mouse when using hword. Btw, there is an app called big cursor. Makes work in hword much easier because the stock cursor disappears.
nychotxxx said:
there is an app called big cursor. Makes work in hword much easier because the stock cursor disappears.
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Link? I didn't find anything by this exact name in the play store, and "big mouse" seems to not work on JB+
It is called big mouse. I went searching for a big cursor to use with hancom word -- tere are many in ios -- and big mouse was the only one that fit the bill. It works with my stock np12 in hancom word with my bluetooth mouse attached and is far better than the stock cursor. However, the settings for the app don't work, don't even show up anywhere. The settings should allow the cursor to be bigger and black. I emailed the developer to find out what the problem is. Still, it's way better than the almost invisible stock cursor.
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Link? I didn't find anything by this exact name in the play store, and "big mouse" seems to not work on JB+
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OK, thanks, I will give it a whirl.

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