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S-Off but on 6.16hboot w/o root access?

okay so i updated to the new rom by ruu method and i was already rooted when i did it. So here is the deal now, im trying to use root required apps and its telling me im not rooted the su binary is not installed or it is in the wrong directory so i click okay and i launch my phone into bootloader mode and it shows revolutionary s-off hb6.16.00 and i am not able to get into recovery mode. So am i really not rooted? Did the update only make ir look like my s is off?
what i want to do? I want to be on s-off and rooted for reals instead of fakey.

First download and flash amon RA FNMA thru bootloader. In that recovery you can flash superuser and binaries. There is an option for it. U are already s-off so you r almost there.
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Hey,
Did you install a recovery when you turned s-off? I had it happen once when switching roms that something must have went wrong between the rom and super user and I had to run recovery to get it back to a previous version of super user in order for it to work and be able to manage root, even though I already had s-off.
and if you didnt flash the recovery then:
defiantly listen to the post before me, go flash the amon recovery!
Good luck let us know how you do!

Your right steve i didnt flash a recovery but because i thought i could do it in my recovery after the ruu install but it turns out that the ruu must have taken it off because i have never really use ruu just zips so is there a clockworkmod file that i can change use in the bootloader flash update method?
Where can i find that other recovery program 2nd poster?

grabbed that recovery here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
then usb toggle through recovery to get the su flashed and good to go.
thank you

actually no bueno!! su app still wont update says root access failed when i try to update it and also busy box not installed and also i dl an app to check root access and it says root is not on device so what i have is a supersonic device with s-off and custom recovery working and also was able to flas su through recovery yet i still get messages from apps saying device is not rooted??? I guess i spoke to soon.
Im just going to try and flash a custom rom from recovery and hopefully the system files will load correctly i will do a nand back up for this one first of course.. ill be back.

i used energys newest release and holy kentucky durby batman it works my system files are back to root access.Maybe has to do with something then from the stock ruu bacause i went to the bootloader after putting energy back on and it says hb6.16.1002 which is what i got with the stock ruu i used, and s-off still and root access available. awsome.

popasmurfn23 said:
okay so i updated to the new rom by ruu method and i was already rooted when i did it. So here is the deal now, im trying to use root required apps and its telling me im not rooted the su binary is not installed or it is in the wrong directory so i click okay and i launch my phone into bootloader mode and it shows revolutionary s-off hb6.16.00 and i am not able to get into recovery mode. So am i really not rooted? Did the update only make ir look like my s is off?
what i want to do? I want to be on s-off and rooted for reals instead of fakey.
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Keep in mind that having S-OFF and having root access are two different things even though they are usually together: S-OFF allows you to flash whatever you want on to the phone while having root access means that you have access to basically every aspect of the phone (application-wise) on that specific ROM. For example, it is possible to flash stock (which has no root access) and keep S-OFF which will allow you to flash anything else whenever.

When flashing the RUU it overwrites the custom recovery ( Ra - TWRP ) and also removes the ability for Superuser to do its job. So you broke your " root " .
I don't know if it will work in your case but try to re-run whatever method you used to gain root access in the first place. See if you can find a PC36IMG.zip that is already rooted. and then a PC36IMG.zip of a recovery.
You can flash both by booting into the bootloader. Remember to remove / delete the first ( rooted rom ) image from the SD card before you run the recovery PC36IMG.zip.
Man I hope that all made sense !

hboot 6.16/s-off revolutionary/stock recovery/no root
I had the same issue. hboot 6.16 revolutionary s-off but i was not rooted and on the stock recovery. i thought i was a goner because no pc36img i downloaded would flash in bootloader and ruu's wouldn't flash. I just recently started revolutionary and when i plugged my phone in revolutionary said 'you are already s-off, do you want to flash revolutionary clockwork recovery?' Once I hit Y (yes) it flashed the recovery and i was rooted again. this took a whole lot of guessing and checking so hopefully this helps someone

[Q] Screwed up (red triangle)

Looks like tiredness has got the better of me and I screwed up my bootloader (I think).
I purchased a pre-rooted DHD, it was rooted through Advance Ace Hack Kit. I have 4ext installed as the recovery and have Ice cold sandwich flashed. I do have a nandroid backup of the rom.
Unfortunately I was running Advance Ace Hack Kit just to see what the options were as I was looking for installing an eng bootloader, unfortunately I selected option 1 by mistake and the software started running, phone rebooted a few times and now it's just stuck at the splash screen. I was in two minds to stop it mid-process but thought that might make things worse.
I also cannot access my 4ext recover, instead I get the red triangle and the htc recovery.
Damn, I'm annoyed with myself. I am tired and got momentarily distracted. I know one thing, if this can be fixed I won't be doing this again:crying:
Can this be brought back to life?

Ok, I have got myself out of this predicament by installing the stock wwe rom. Thankfully the phone rebooted, started up and the phone is back in business.
Of course I am still s-off, however I assume I am now unrooted.
Is there an easy option to root the device bearing in mind the phone is s-off? I want to root and flash cwm or 4ext.
Thanks.

Wht version of the Rom did u flash
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using xda app-developers app

maritimesbob said:
Ok, I have got myself out of this predicament by installing the stock wwe rom. Thankfully the phone rebooted, started up and the phone is back in business.
Of course I am still s-off, however I assume I am now unrooted.
Is there an easy option to root the device bearing in mind the phone is s-off? I want to root and flash cwm or 4ext.
Thanks.
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In the "Ace Think Tank" thread (linked in my signature), post #7, there is a PDF that includes instructions on flashing a custom recovery from an S-OFF phone. Start from the bottom of page 9, the section labeled "S-OFF no custom recovery." After that, just flash a rooted ROM from the recovery.
Or, assuming you have a working ROM, you could look into SuperOneClick. I think it roots a ROM if the phone is S-OFF (however, I have never used it and can't speak to its reliability). Then you can just flash a recovery from an app like ROM Manager or 4ext Updater.
Finally, again assuming you have a working ROM, you could try flashing SuperSU from the zip here. Again, untested, but it has restored root on at least one occasion that I know of to an unrooted ROM.
Please note that I'm just throwing ideas around. If anyone knows that any of these methods doesn't work please say so.

Hello all,
Thanks for the replies.
I have the phone working, I installed the wwe htc sense rom that comes with 2.3.5 and sense 3.0. Pretty much my phone is factory reset, but at least it works now.
I lost root but do have s-off.

Use superoneclick. 2.3.3 it can easy root stock sense 3.0 when you are S-OFF which you are already.
1.First press temp root and wait for it to finish.
2.second root and wait for it to finish.
3.enjoy.

Got it sorted. I flashed a cwm recovery zip from an sdcard in bootloader. With cwm flashed, I could restore a nandroid backup. Back in business again.

If you want to unbrick your phone, you need to download an official RRU, or RUU or whatever it is that it is called. It is an EXE file that you download on your computer and run it. You can get it from HTC website, or google it. It's a stock setup of your phone. So you put the phone in red triangle mode, connect it to PC, and run the RRU file. It starts its magic and the phone will be back to stock with the sense and GB and everything. Use the Ace Hack Kit again to get it rooted and S-OFF if it isnt already and then install RoM as you want to.

S-Off

Hello I have rooted, installed recovery and unlocked bootloader. But now I just need to get S-Off. Can someone help me and say what exactly I have to do?

With the retirement of AAHK, you now need quite a bit of skill to get S-Off. If you really want to try, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2184953.

bananagranola said:
With the retirement of AAHK, you now need quite a bit of skill to get S-Off. If you really want to try, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2184953.
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Is there any easier way?

domasxxm said:
Is there any easier way?
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No. That is the only way. We are working on an script that will do it on almost one click, but it is not going to be supported and therefore will not be noob friendly.
Why do you need S-OFF for?

glevitan said:
No. That is the only way. We are working on an script that will do it on almost one click, but it is not going to be supported and therefore will not be noob friendly.
Why do you need S-OFF for?
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Hope you will make it fast . I want to install CM 7.2. Cuz when I install it with S-On I got stuck on htc boot logo.

domasxxm said:
Hope you will make it fast . I want to install CM 7.2. Cuz when I install it with S-On I got stuck on htc boot logo.
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That has nothing to do with S-OFF. That is because you are not flashing the CM boot.img in fastboot after flashing the rom in CWM. With an unlocked bootloader you need to do that everytime you flash a rom.

You can acquire eng S-OFF quite easily if you use a mirror to get AAHK. Simply download the PD98IMG files manually when the script needs them. Worked for me today.

KirovAir said:
You can acquire eng S-OFF quite easily if you use a mirror to get AAHK. Simply download the PD98IMG files manually when the script needs them. Worked for me today.
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Yes!! I did it just had to flash boot img from zm7 zip fastboot flash boot boot.img

KirovAir said:
You can acquire eng S-OFF quite easily if you use a mirror to get AAHK. Simply download the PD98IMG files manually when the script needs them. Worked for me today.
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I hope everyone understands that even if they manage to use AAHK in this way, no support is provided if something goes awry.

noob: trying to get CWM recovery installed.
domasxxm said:
Yes!! I did it just had to flash boot img from zm7 zip fastboot flash boot boot.img
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Phone: DHD, 3.20.502.52, ATT
I have successfully unlocked the phone (via HTCDev)
And have successfully rooted the phone.
I installed the ROM Manager and Titanium Backup.
I have the ADB drivers successfully installed on my computer.
I also have HTC Quick Root running on my computer.
I am NOT able to get the CWM Recovery installed on the phone. I always get a " /cache/data..." error.
I've searched and read a number of threads that have indicated the DHD Gingerbread is particularly difficult to get ROM Manager fully working. I tried the process outlined here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39016279), using the easyunlock tool. the script appears to run fine, i've even gone through the redundant step of putting the unlockcode received from htcdev into the tools directory and allowing the script to complete, which it appears to do fine. However, the script indicates the phone should execute some commands as a final step, at which point my phone is already sitting in the bootloader menu and does nothing.
I'm reasonably comfortable with ADB commands and the terminal emulator on the phone.
Can anyone help me understand why I'm failing and what I might do to get the CWM Recovery installed and get ROM Manager working?

smericle said:
Phone: DHD, 3.20.502.52, ATT
I have successfully unlocked the phone (via HTCDev)
And have successfully rooted the phone.
I installed the ROM Manager and Titanium Backup.
I have the ADB drivers successfully installed on my computer.
I also have HTC Quick Root running on my computer.
I am NOT able to get the CWM Recovery installed on the phone. I always get a " /cache/data..." error.
I've searched and read a number of threads that have indicated the DHD Gingerbread is particularly difficult to get ROM Manager fully working. I tried the process outlined here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39016279), using the easyunlock tool. the script appears to run fine, i've even gone through the redundant step of putting the unlockcode received from htcdev into the tools directory and allowing the script to complete, which it appears to do fine. However, the script indicates the phone should execute some commands as a final step, at which point my phone is already sitting in the bootloader menu and does nothing.
I'm reasonably comfortable with ADB commands and the terminal emulator on the phone.
Can anyone help me understand why I'm failing and what I might do to get the CWM Recovery installed and get ROM Manager working?
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If the Easy Ace Root Tool worked fine, then you should have CWM recovery installed....Rom manager needs you to be rooted to work, but an unlocked bootloader allows you to flash a custom recovery.

[Q] Can't flash recovery with ADB, 'waiting for device'

My Desire was rooted before with a custom ROM. I've flashed back the original firmware, therefore the root was gone.
I followed the tutorial at this thread but I get stuck when I want to boot into recovery. The standard holding power and volume down procedure didn't work so I used ADB to boot into recovery. My device rebooted, but I get the red triangle and after that the 'Can't open /cache/recovery/command' error. I found out this means that the recovery isn't proparly installed.
When I use ADB to flash clockworkmod recovery Ithe message '< waiting for device >' remain standing. My Desire is in the HTC Sync modus, I see My HTC in windows device manager.
What is the next step to take? I've bricked an tablet before so I want to do the right thing.

Are you s-off? Also you use fastboot to flash the recovery, not adb.

chromium96 said:
Are you s-off? Also you use fastboot to flash the recovery, not adb.
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Good point, I was forgotten all about s-off and on, it was a long time ago that I rooted my Desire.
I think I am not, beacause flashing the ROM of HTC also gives me a non-rooted phone. I'll check it this evening. Is using the tool from htcdev.com/bootloader the best way to become s-off?

musicfreak said:
Good point, I was forgotten all about s-off and on, it was a long time ago that I rooted my Desire.
I think I am not, beacause flashing the ROM of HTC also gives me a non-rooted phone. I'll check it this evening. Is using the tool from htcdev.com/bootloader the best way to become s-off?
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No that will unlock your bootloader, not give you s off. Use revolutionary.

I found out I'm s-off, after I flashed clockworkmod recovery I used unrevoked to root. The rooting didn't succeed, I get the message 'failed to get root. Is your firmware to new?
I was on RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00. 32U_5.11.05.27_release, I have flashed an older stock ROM from the list on this page (1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4. 06.00.02_2_release_126984), and will try it again.
I'll let you know what the results are.

musicfreak said:
I found out I'm s-off, after I flashed clockworkmod recovery I used unrevoked to root. The rooting didn't succeed, I get the message 'failed to get root. Is your firmware to new?
I was on RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00. 32U_5.11.05.27_release, I have flashed an older stock ROM from the list on this page (1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4. 06.00.02_2_release_126984), and will try it again.
I'll let you know what the results are.
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After you flashed recovery, there was no need to use unrevoked. All you had to do was boot into recovery and flash superuser.zip file. That would have rooted your existing rom.
However, what is your ultimate aim? If you want a ROM, you can simply flash the optimal hboot for the ROM (optional but recommended), boot into recovery, full wipe and flash the rom. The ROM will already be pre-rooted.

musicfreak said:
I found out I'm s-off, after I flashed clockworkmod recovery I used unrevoked to root. The rooting didn't succeed, I get the message 'failed to get root. Is your firmware to new?
I was on RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00. 32U_5.11.05.27_release, I have flashed an older stock ROM from the list on this page (1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4. 06.00.02_2_release_126984), and will try it again.
I'll let you know what the results are.
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Don't use unrevoked. just flash the super su zip using cwm.

eddiehk6 said:
However, what is your ultimate aim? If you want a ROM, you can simply flash the optimal hboot for the ROM (optional but recommended), boot into recovery, full wipe and flash the rom. The ROM will already be pre-rooted.
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You're completly right, I was somewhatconfused, it has been a while since I last flashed a ROM, I was to much happy with Oxy ZM. :silly:
Everything is ok now, I've flashed succesfully. Thanks.

TWRP loaded still bootlooping

I am leaving the original post below so people can see it. I corrected the issue with some great help from people here! Thank you. The radio (1.09.01.0622) was bad. I flashed a new one and all is good.
I do have one more question. I need to root now. I tried to flash an su zip through TWRP and it failed. The Incredible 2 is on 2.3.3 (used tacoroot to downgrade from 2.3.4 and revolutionary) with TWRP 2.3.3 installed.
What is the best way for me to go about rooting? After root I assume I'll use the same method through TWRP to flash a custom rom (probably a Cyanogenmod). Am I correct in my thinking?
Thank you in advance!!!!
Original post:
I am helping a friend with his HTC Incredible 2. Helping may not be the best choice of words.
Long story short --- he was on android 2.3.4 and wanted to root. He called me.
I used Tacoroot to downgrade to 2.3.3 and the Revolutionary (windows version) to obtain Beta Key and installed CWM.
Apparently this method does not properly install CWM and I have a bootloop when I try to power on the phone. I wish that would have come to my attention sooner.
I finally was able to flash (command prompt) TWRP. I used the image file marked 2.3.3.0 because that matches the android version of the phone. I am not sure if that matters.
Still ... I can get into TWRP. However, the bootloop still persists. I think I need to flash something using TWRP, but I am not sure.
What next? He is ok with flashing a custom rom. Is that what needs to be done? Can I flash the stock rom again? Does it matter which?
Any help is appreciated!

Also, In the (white screen) HBoot recovery screen a quick script is run in bootloader saying something along the lines of no image or wrong image.

With wonderful advice form people here I flashed a new radio through hboot and the bootloop is gone!!! I have updated the original post with one last question about TWRP and root. Thank you very much for your help!
beezerhale said:
Also, In the (white screen) HBoot recovery screen a quick script is run in bootloader saying something along the lines of no image or wrong image.
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if you are wanting twrp use goo manager to install the recovery script. i never had any problems with it. when in goo manger on the app click menu and install open recovery script