I am gonna disclose some of the useless myths about such a great Android OS. I collected them from various sources and have put it in a single post. It has took me hours to create this. Press thanks to support me,(This post is not made to criticize/promote any brand)
1) ANDROID TASK KILLERS IMPROVE
BATTERY LIFE AND PERFORMANCE
Does your Android
smartphone regularly run out of
RAM? Not likely. Are your apps
draining battery life while running
in the background? No, because
that’s not how Android is built. Task
killers solve both of these non-
existent problems, which means they
provide a non-existent performance
boost to your existent Android.
There are a limited number of cases
where Android task killers do boost
performance.
If you kill a poorly-written app that
has a memory leak, then you might
notice a bump to your performance.
You might also notice better
performance if you kill a task that
has experienced a critical error, in
which case it will continue running
in the background even after you
switch apps.
The first problem can be solved by
uninstalling the problematic app,
while the second problem can be
solved by restarting your Android.
2) ROOTING YOUR ANDROID IS
ILLEGAL
This myth began after Apple started
getting mad at iPhone users for
jailbreaking their devices. Various
courts stepped in to determine
whether or not jailbreaking an
iPhone represented unlawful use of
the device, and the end result was
that jailbreaking an iPhone or
rooting an Android was not declared
to be illegal.
More recently, the folks who control
and enforce the Digital Millennium
Copyright Act (DMCA) stepped in to
offer their opinion on the matter,
and they declared that Android
rooting was perfectly legal on smartphones.
Remember: to date, nobody has
been ‘convicted’ of jailbreaking their
iPhone or rooting their Android.
Although there is no official law
about Android tablet rooting,
Android smartphone rooting is
perfectly legal. In fact, it can
actually be healthy for your
Android.
3) EVERYBODY USES THE SAME
VERSION OF ANDROID MADE BY
GOOGLE
Android is an open-source operating
system. That means anybody –
including you and I – is free to use
it however they want. Before releasing a
device, companies like Samsung
might install various Samsung-
related apps, like a music player or
browser, for example. Meanwhile, Amazon has changed Android to a point where it’s
virtually unrecognizable on its line of
Kindles. But yes, Kindles run
Android.
In short, just about every Android
device is different. Some are
different in minor ways, while others
completely change the look and feel
of the operating system.
4) ANDROID ISN’T AS GOOD AS IOS
ioS devices are incredibly
popular but some people have the mistaken
impression that iOS is superior to
Android in every way. Here are a few
reasons why that’s simply not true:
-The basic iOS interface hasn’t been
updated since the first release of
iPhone in 2007.
-Apple and its carrier partners use
iOS to spy on their users.
-You can’t customize iOS
-iOS doesn’t have widgets.
-iOS only supports products from
Apple.
5) CLEANING BATTERYSTATS.BIN INCREASES BATTERY LIFE
The batterystats.bin just holds the values of which app is using how much battery and displays it in the settings menu, under Battery usage. It is not at all related to the performance of the battery life.
6) ANDROID PHONE/TABLET NEED ANTIVIRUS software
Its not compulsory that every android phone must have antivirus. Most of the phones Will be non-rooted when bought, restricting super user access. So, antivirus is only needed when you have rooted your phone, to prevent the virus from gettin super user access from root.
yea a gud and I think antivirus is not even needed
if it is rooted you can use superuser to limit root access hence no virus will access root
sangalaxy said:
yea a gud and I think antivirus is not even needed
if it is rooted you can use superuser to limit root access hence no virus will access root
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True, but some virus apps bypass the superuser app. For such, antivirus is needed.
I like this list. The only comments I can make...
1.) Task Managers- in my experience are more useful on older devices, mostly because apps are shifting to using more RAM and needing more power. My Galaxy S- 512MB of RAM- sometimes locks up HORRIBLY with only a few apps open.
The problem with apps nowadays is that many of them are shifting to the more standard dual-core or quad-core experience, meaning older phones and even tablets are being left behind to really struggle. Task Managers DO help every so often- while they don't affect battery life, definitely, they can have some effect on performance.
Arguably, yeah, task managers are quite superficial but as you said, they aren't without their benefits in soem cases. On newer phones with more power task managers don't have as much use, but on older devices it can help a low more.
5.) This is purely subjective, and to be honest, bait to start a flame war (despite this being a predominantly Android forum, these breakouts do tend to happen).
7.) Its all a matter of what you do with your phone that determines whether you'll need an antivirus even after rooting your device. Stick to the Play Store and trustworthy apps- in other words, stay away from the shady sections of the Play Store- and things will go smoothly.
And by the way, you missed number 4...
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Vinsi95 said:
True, but some virus apps bypass the superuser app. For such, antivirus is needed.
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I don't think so because any virus that bypasses superuser can bypass av too because no av has root permission hence the app that has root access is superior to av
sangalaxy said:
I don't think so because any virus that bypasses superuser can bypass av too because no av has root permission hence the app that has root access is superior to av
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hmm. Depends on the antivirus..
Soryuu said:
I like this list. The only comments I can make...
1.) Task Managers- in my experience are more useful on older devices, mostly because apps are shifting to using more RAM and needing more power. My Galaxy S- 512MHz of RAM- sometimes locks up HORRIBLY with only a few apps open.
The problem with apps nowadays is that many of them are shifting to the more standard dual-core or quad-core experience, meaning older phones and even tablets are being left behind to really struggle. Task Managers DO help every so often- while they don't affect battery life, definitely, they can have some effect on performance.
Arguably, yeah, task managers are quite superficial but as you said, they aren't without their benefits in soem cases. On newer phones with more power task managers don't have as much use, but on older devices it can help a low more.
5.) This is purely subjective, and to be honest, bait to start a flame war (despite this being a predominantly Android forum, these breakouts do tend to happen).
7.) Its all a matter of what you do with your phone that determines whether you'll need an antivirus even after rooting your device. Stick to the Play Store and trustworthy apps- in other words, stay away from the shady sections of the Play Store- and things will go smoothly.
And by the way, you missed number 4...
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Haha. ya. forgot no. 4. Corrected it now.
Soryuu said:
I like this list. The only comments I can make...
1.) Task Managers- in my experience are more useful on older devices, mostly because apps are shifting to using more RAM and needing more power. My Galaxy S- 512MHz of RAM- sometimes locks up HORRIBLY with only a few apps open.
The problem with apps nowadays is that many of them are shifting to the more standard dual-core or quad-core experience, meaning older phones and even tablets are being left behind to really struggle. Task Managers DO help every so often- while they don't affect battery life, definitely, they can have some effect on performance.
Arguably, yeah, task managers are quite superficial but as you said, they aren't without their benefits in soem cases. On newer phones with more power task managers don't have as much use, but on older devices it can help a low more.
5.) This is purely subjective, and to be honest, bait to start a flame war (despite this being a predominantly Android forum, these breakouts do tend to happen).
7.) Its all a matter of what you do with your phone that determines whether you'll need an antivirus even after rooting your device. Stick to the Play Store and trustworthy apps- in other words, stay away from the shady sections of the Play Store- and things will go smoothly.
And by the way, you missed number 4...
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U meant 512 megabytes of ram not mhz
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Acc to my knowledge no properly defined android virus exists....what exists are adwares which download advts. So basically there is no need of an Antivirus
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U meant 512 megabytes of ram not mhz
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Acc to my knowledge no properly defined android virus exists....what exists are adwares which download advts. So basically there is no need of an Antivirus
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Yeah, MB I'll fix up my post as well
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4) ANDROID ISN’T AS GOOD AS IOS
ioS devices are incredibly
popular but some people have the mistaken
impression that iOS is superior to
Android in every way. Here are a few
reasons why that’s simply not true:
-The basic iOS interface hasn’t been
updated since the first release of
iPhone in 2007.
-Apple and its carrier partners use
iOS to spy on their users.
-iOS only supports products from
Apple.
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Really? Can I ask where the sources you have for these facts? Or is it just a personal opinion.
Let's get some facts straight. Apple does not spy on their users more than Google or Microsoft does.
If you have used a iOS product, you know the interface has changed is iPhone 1. Maybe no launchers, but it has changed.
Widgets, maybe not on a unjailbroken phone, but jailbreak it and install a few apps and hey presto we have widgets.
iPhones do work with both Windows and in some cases Linux. Third party vendors produces loads of accessories to both iPhone and iPad, so there goes your theory out of the window.
Nuff said. This is not a flame, but setting the record straight.
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Hey guys!
Do you think, that android will EVER run as fast and smooth on a rhodium as it runs on a native andoid phone?
Can you guess aprox. when the time comes?
thx for answer :->
nobody can say this because all developers work on this in their free time and its their decission how much time they spend to this.
on the other hand there are many non solved problems and nobody can say if this problems can be fixed in 2 days or never.
so lets wait and see what great things devs can do in future
In theory it should run as smooth on Rhodium too I guess since they use the same kind of core hardwares such as processor and RAM.
The only thing I would guess is the drivers issues with the different hardwares such as keyboard, etc..., but as lhwparis said, the developers do it at their own time.
We just have to wish them good luck and appreciate their effort
breytex said:
Hey guys!
Do you think, that android will EVER run as fast and smooth on a rhodium as it runs on a native andoid phone?
Can you guess aprox. when the time comes?
thx for answer :->
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If it is run off the SD card, I don't know if it will ever be as fast and smooth as a genuine Android phone. I think there is potential to get most if not all of the Android functionality at decent speeds but a genuine Android phone will still probably be faster and smoother.
x10dude said:
If it is run off the SD card, I don't know if it will ever be as fast and smooth as a genuine Android phone. I think there is potential to get most if not all of the Android functionality at decent speeds but a genuine Android phone will still probably be faster and smoother.
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Im pretty sure that Rhodium Android benchmarks faster than on other native android devices already using Android Market benchmarking apps.
x10dude said:
If it is run off the SD card, I don't know if it will ever be as fast and smooth as a genuine Android phone. I think there is potential to get most if not all of the Android functionality at decent speeds but a genuine Android phone will still probably be faster and smoother.
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Not completely true. The SD card is removable flash, the internal storage is just non-removable flash. If you get a fast enough SD card, there's no difference.
Also, Android can be flashed to the internal storage of a device with some cunning through the same idea they are using now (bootloading through Haret). Take a look at the Vogue and Kaiser threads.. The devs just have to work on that process, which I'm sure is not as important to them as getting Open GL working 100%, sound, and complete battery management.
I stand corrected. Thanks. Running Android of SD memory can be just as fast.
Exactly. When you buy your next SD card, shell out the extra $10 or so and get a class 6. You won't regret it.
You mean, if only you get a very fast SD card, the whole system, including all animations and click(touch)-processing latencies will be as fast as on devices running Android natively?
I want to clarify that, since I thought it just has some serious driver underdevelopment issues (like opengl, which is widely used by it) or some kind of slower debug build. On my phone it runs about two-three time slower than on a phone with native android (and lower cpu clock, but much lower screen resolution as well)
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You mean, if only you get a very fast SD card, the whole system, including all animations and click(touch)-processing latencies will be as fast as on devices running Android natively?
I want to clarify that, since I thought it just has some serious driver underdevelopment issues (like opengl, which is widely used by it) or some kind of slower debug build. On my phone it runs about two-three time slower than on a phone with native android (and lower cpu clock, but much lower screen resolution as well)
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What are you comparing your phone to? Don't look at a Droid X or an EVO dude. You have to compare apples to apples - about the closest native Android hardware to our phones is/was the HTC Hero. So that's our benchmark basically.
With that said, there probably is some software improvements, but getting a higher class SD will definitely help as well. I heard boot times are probably the most to benefit from higher class SD - don't expect miracles tho, there's definitely still some things that need optimizing - I think at present the devs aren't exactly sure what those things are
Once the major bugs are squashed certainly the focus will then be more on stability, performance and battery life. We've gotten quite a few battery fixes lately, hopefully performance will be next on the docket
I was comparing it to the nearest phone I could touch, ZTE Racer ;-)
Racer has a 600MHz clock (okay, i thought it was slower than 528 (AFAIR) of TP2) and a pretty ****ty screen ;-). But that's not one of those 1G Snapdragons.
I wish TP2 ran Android like a brand new phone one day... ;-)
ikari87 said:
I was comparing it to the nearest phone I could touch, ZTE Racer ;-)
Racer has a 600MHz clock (okay, i thought it was slower than 528 (AFAIR) of TP2) and a pretty ****ty screen ;-). But that's not one of those 1G Snapdragons.
I wish TP2 ran Android like a brand new phone one day... ;-)
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Having owned and used an HTC Hero and Samsung Moment I can tell you that the vanilla version (non-overclocked) of this build is about the same speed as the Hero. The overclocked version is faster than both when running on my class 6 card.
No Crystal Ball & No HTC Help
breytex said:
Hey guys!
Do you think, that android will EVER run as fast and smooth on a rhodium as it runs on a native andoid phone?
Can you guess aprox. when the time comes?
thx for answer :->
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The issues are drivers, drivers, drivers and null assistance from HTC. With little more than the technical docs of the Qualcomm processor shared by the Rhodium as well as native HTC & other manufacturers Android devices the developers are nothing short of being friggin amazing. It's a lot of hit n miss trial n error and we the users are the beta testers.
My initial goal of being one of many beta testers was to see whether Android is a viable replacement for my WinMo device especially in light of Microsoft's direction with WP7.
HTC is helpful to XDA developers when it helps sell current devices. Unfortunately HTC in their shortsightedness fails to see the benefit of a successful Project Android being the springboard of many to a purchase a new native Android HTC device.
So will we have drivers, drivers, drivers to make the Rhodium as good or better than a similar hardware native Android device is a question no one can answer definitively when or if ever. For the time being, I like other beta testers will avoid phone calls like the plague, but nonetheless will have enough hands on to make an educated decision whether Android is right for them.
I dont know
My setup of Android seems to be working pretty good minus a few small bugs. Main bug I would say is battery issues. All in all mine is damn quick,and definitely faster than the winmo on the device. My winmo is trim and pimped out but still runs like a turd. It's reliable but slow. My ole lady has the Epic Galaxy S, and it is indeed fast and smooth with particularly vivid color (amoled), but I am gaining a new appreciation for my TP2 again wth Android. My screen looks pretty sharp as well. I am bouncing back and forth from winmo to droid often, but I can manage to stay in droid for long periods and not miss a beat. Waking up to my new rooster alarm sound ain't too shabby either.
I am a stickler for response speeds, and winmo out of the box blew just like it does on computers. Linux has never let me down, and now neither will droid. I would like to have a way in droid to check my 10 different email address' and not just gmail, but I'm sure there's a way. Windows' ideas are ok but their performance/quality has always just been farts upwind.
One thing some people don't think about is the apps and stuff they choose to run and the things they do on their phone, but at least android attempts to warn you of the access the app is being granted on your device before you install. Phones today have cameras, mics, speakers, communications, GPS, and a G-sensor. The only thing they can't do is taste and smell (coming soon). All in all though, they are capable of knowing where you are, where you've been, what you say, and what you look like as well as possibly being remotely controlled. Enjoy, but beware
The only thing holding us back is the slow GPU and the resistive screen.
hi, i'm now using a Cooked WinMO HTC Touch HD and very divided weather to go for HTC Desire or iPhone 4 .. Both has their Pro but i have only play with their default OS and seen video demos on their features..
1) ex-WinMO users, how do you bring all ur contacts, sms, calender over to HTC Desire ?
2) Does a Rooted HTC Desire has better multi-touch ? I seen a video comparing HTC Desire & Samsung Galaxy and HTC Desire seem to lose out ?
3) Are you able to play videos on FB on HTC Desire ? I have a crappy FB app on my WinMo which is useless.. hahaa
4) Any ex-iPhone JB users can share what's the pro & cons for both OS ?
doran_lum said:
hi, i'm now using a Cooked WinMO HTC Touch HD and very divided weather to go for HTC Desire or iPhone 4 .. Both has their Pro but i have only play with their default OS and seen video demos on their features..
1) ex-WinMO users, how do you bring all ur contacts, sms, calender over to HTC Desire ?
2) Does a Rooted HTC Desire has better multi-touch ? I seen a video comparing HTC Desire & Samsung Galaxy and HTC Desire seem to lose out ?
3) Are you able to play videos on FB on HTC Desire ? I have a crappy FB app on my WinMo which is useless.. hahaa
4) Any ex-iPhone JB users can share what's the pro & cons for both OS ?
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1) theres a few ways i think but ive never done it, maybe others can tell you!
2) the desire dosent have multi touch only dual touch, the iphone is better
3) yes & yes with flash in browser
Desire is the one
Hi,
I was / 'am' the biggest Apple fan out there, had all the iPhones and JB'ed all of them, thought what could be done on JB was brill....until I tried the Desire / Android which I bought because I was bored with the iPhone, expected to keep it a week and then fall back to the iPhone and sell the Android.
Well I ended up selling the iPhone and loving my Desire, everything you achieved by JB'ing the Apple you do out of the box with Android, then rooting it takes it to a whole new level of 'fiddling' and getting a config which you want.
Get the Desire, no question.
Thanks for all your reply..i'm inching closer to Desire soon ...
Just one last qns .. comparing the apps (not including games) is Desire able to match iPhone ones ?
currently on my mind i can think i need is audio translator..
I moved from WinMo (HTC Touch Pro) to a Desire. I was worried I would miss some of the WinMo functions but i dont !
Contacts copied straight across from PC using HTC Sync provided. I did miss the syncing with Outlook until i figured I could autoforward my account to a googlemail account and get the best of both worlds.
video is poor out of the box on the Desire but a quick download of Rockplayer brings it back up to (and beyond) WinMo video.
Games are much better for Android than WinMo (although maybe not yet on a par with iPhone for sheer volume of games - but how many games do you really need ??)
MS Office also worried me moving from WinMo but there are plenty of apps out there to sort you out.
All the stuff that you relied on chefs doing for you on WinMo you can do on Android just by downloading apps from the Marketplace.
Go for the Desire. I was dubious but Im now a committed Android groupie
I have an iPhone 4 (personal) and the Desire (work). If you are a casual user I would say go with the iPhone. If Facebook is a big concern I can say with confidence that the iPhone app is better.
IPhone 4 pros:
Amazing screen
Better keyboard (comparing to stock HTC sense keyboard)
Easier to use for the average user
Better battery life
Better multi-tasking (for the average user)
Desire pros:
More customization options out of the box
Better Google maps app
Better goggle integration (which I love)
I know some will disagree with me, but that is how I feel. I love both phones, and they both appeal to different parts of my personality. I think if you are not much of a tweaker then you are better off with the iPhone. Hope this helps.
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CreepingDeath said:
Better multi-tasking (for the average user)
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Serious question - can you explain why you think this?
Thanks,
Dave
Answering to question 1:
I ran a google sync on the HTC Touch Pro WM phone, then when i logged in on my Desire everything just reappeared!
foxmeister said:
Serious question - can you explain why you think this?
Thanks,
Dave
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Indeed i'd like to know how the heck the iOS4 can handle multitasking better than Android..!!
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foxmeister said:
Serious question - can you explain why you think this?
Thanks,
Dave
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I too am curious to your thinking. One thing I noticed from my friends iPhone is that when he brings up the multitasking thing at the bottom he can scroll through everything that's running as opposed to the 8 latest apps that the android shows. But I've never actually found it to be an issue personally.
Also in relation to the OT, I have never owned a iPhone (only my currently rooted Desire) but my friend who used to have a 3G and recently chose the iPhone4 over other choices says that while he is happy with how the iPhone runs, he does kind of wish he could customise it like I can with my Desire.
AndroHero said:
1) theres a few ways i think but ive never done it, maybe others can tell you!
2) the desire dosent have multi touch only dual touch, the iphone is better
3) yes & yes with flash in browser
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WTF, the Desire does have multi touch, you must be confusing it with Xperia X10 which has dual touch instead of multi touch as sony didn't want the possibility of being sued be Apple.
It should be noted though that Apple didn't invent multi touch.
I was using Touch Diamond with custom ROM for two years, Few weeks ago I switched to android (have choosen DESIRE).
I could not made a better choice. Not yet brave enough to ROOT it )))).
Really the phone is excelent, speed and UI is great, customization possibilities are as good as I was used with WM.
Flash is also working without any problems, so is multi-touch. Even iPhone 3GS users were impressed ))))).
T.
neo158 said:
WTF, the Desire does have multi touch, you must be confusing it with Xperia X10 which has dual touch instead of multi touch as sony didn't want the possibility of being sued be Apple.
It should be noted though that Apple didn't invent multi touch.
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It is a well known fact that the Desire, unfortunatelly, doesnt have proper multi-touch. It has a somewhat refined dual-touch ability, but in games, it has some issues here and there. You can see it downloading a simple app from the market for touch testing. Thats the only thing im somewhat jealous of the other multi-touch phones (galaxy s, iphail).
But the only thing im jealous the most about the iphone is its scratch resistant screen.. that makes me cry every time i realize that our screens are made from glass only.. :/
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Let me preface this with the fact that I am running both of these devices in parallel right now. Also, I have 5 of the desires in production in our corporate network (which I am in charge of troubleshooting)
As of yet, the Android doesn't have a way of naitvely handling the problem of multitasking for the average jo-blo. "dl this app, then every now and then check to see if apps are open, otherwise your battery will drain" Is what I find myself telling users.
This is not that case with the iPhone. Multitasking battery savings is done automatically for the average user.
I know that most people reading this are power users, so closing out of tasks is no big deal, however, this is an enormous task for the average user, and I really feel that Apple has done an awesome job with the whole multitasking idea, and have made it very easy for the average end user to use the phone.
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As of yet, the Android doesn't have a way of naitvely handling the problem of multitasking for the average jo-blo. "dl this app, then every now and then check to see if apps are open, otherwise your battery will drain" Is what I find myself telling users.
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Hi,
I disagree! I do absolutely nothing to "manage" multi-tasking on my phone and suffer no problems with battery.
In contrast, the vast majority of iPhone apps don't multi-task at all anyway, so I can't see how it can be better.
Regards,
Dave
CreepingDeath said:
Let me preface this with the fact that I am running both of these devices in parallel right now. Also, I have 5 of the desires in production in our corporate network (which I am in charge of troubleshooting)
As of yet, the Android doesn't have a way of naitvely handling the problem of multitasking for the average jo-blo. "dl this app, then every now and then check to see if apps are open, otherwise your battery will drain" Is what I find myself telling users.
This is not that case with the iPhone. Multitasking battery savings is done automatically for the average user.
I know that most people reading this are power users, so closing out of tasks is no big deal, however, this is an enormous task for the average user, and I really feel that Apple has done an awesome job with the whole multitasking idea, and have made it very easy for the average end user to use the phone.
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The iPhone's method of showing what apps are running is nicer and it is a pain to have to download an app just to see what is running on your phone. But on the Desire you don't actually have to go closing everything. Apps running in the background do not drain battery while sitting idle. Using apps like Advanced Task Killer should really only be used to close problem apps, not to constantly shutdown everything that is running.
Nosrulz said:
The iPhone's method of showing what apps are running is nicer and it is a pain to have to download an app just to see what is running on your phone. But on the Desire you don't actually have to go closing everything. Apps running in the background do not drain battery while sitting idle. Using apps like Advanced Task Killer should really only be used to close problem apps, not to constantly shutdown everything that is running.
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As of 2.2 we have a "sort-a" built in task killer so no need for 3rd party stuff... as for your other claim, indeed the apps dont drain battery at all (well..not as much..) so i really dont get it when people say that background apps drain battery and what else.. i dont have any battery drainage whatsoever, and if i dont use wifi at all, my battery can last 2 days easily...
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I have a SonyEricsson Xperia X1 which is starting to break down and I'm thinking of getting a new phone. The Desire Z is the only non-Xperia phone I found that has everything I need. How is it? Pros? Cons? Battery life? GPS?
Also, I'm new to Android because the Xperia X1 has WinMo. What are the drawbacks of Android? The pros I already know of. How's the freeware app availability and development? (I will never pay for an application.) How about the advanced user customization? (I liked that about WinMo. Registry editing and changing files.)
Thanks for any answers!
Here's my review of the Desire Z based on my review (note: this is my first mobile device with something better than WinMo 5.
It has a nice performance (unless you're running something like HTC Sense 3.0+ HTC Sense). The keyboard (if you use it) is very comfortable and it features a "search" and a "menu" key, plus 2 shortcuts, the only thing I would like is an extra row for numbers (but I'm already used to the soft keyboard so I rarely use it). I wish I could review the stock rom, but I removed it after 2 days (and this is my first android phone). Battery life is OK, I get 1 day of battery life with medium use (screen on for like 4 hours, nothing heavy running), however, I bought my phone used, so I think the battery should have been better if it was new. The camera is OK for taking casual photos, the flash does a very good job for taking in dark places, just don't expect "ultra sharp" quality. The speaker is very loud, however, I find myself most of the time putting my hands on the back of the phone to "bounce" back the sound to myself, as the speaker is on the back side.
As for android, there are a lot of free applications, however, the market sometimes has apps that are useless or malicious (although you'll usually only notice them after scrolling a lot down). There's also something called GetJar, where you can get apps for free every week legally (they call them "gold apps"). Most of the apps you'll need will be free (soft keyboards, launchers, email apps) and most of them will be free but will have a "pro" or "donate" version (usually the free ones will have ads, which I can easily ignore, as they're usually small.
Sorry for any typo, English isn't my main language.
Time has long since passed to ditch Winmo. The drawbacks to Android? There aren't any. Winmo is a joke for lag, memory leakage, instability, and crashing. Android is stable and fast; and enjoys huge support from manufacturers, developers, and the user community. There is no "registry" since that is a Windows invention. But there are hacks and mods for anything you would ever want to do, and much more. Trust me, make the move to Android, and you will never look back on Winmo (except to shake your head and laugh).
There are plenty of free or ad-supported apps on the Market, as far as most any utility you would need. And also good quality free games. But really, why such an adamant stance on paying for apps? What would be the big deal in PAYING for software, if its something well made, that you use frequently, and say costs $1 (less than a Euro). That amount of money is completely insignificant for me when spend on something useful like a good app. God forbid the people that develop software should be compensated for it, and motivated to create other quality software, and to continue supporting their apps with updates and bug fixes? User made freeware is fine an all, and there is certainly good stuff out there. But its not going to fill every hole or need.
The con with the DZ is that its over a year old. This is really old in smartphone terms. Good phones with hardware keyboards are indeed rare. But aside from the keyboard, the Z has really fallen far behind in terms of CPU, memory, and other specs. If you are really hung up on a hardware keyboard, and can get a good deal on a Z, then go for it. Otherwise, I'd use my money on a more current device.
Thanks for the replies, guys!
Yes, the physical keyboard is a must. It's so much easier and faster than virtual keyboards. If I have to write more than three consecutive letters, I'll flip the keyboard open instead of trying to write with the virtual one. I do a lot of writing with my phones. My work phone is a Galaxy S and I have tried pretty much every keyboard it has, but they're all equally horrible. The same with my Xperia. I blame my first ever smartphone, the Nokia Communicator 9500. It was huge and awkward, but it had the comfiest keyboard ever.
The Xperia X1 has otherwise 95% of what I need, but it's starting to physically break and it has become abominably slow and unstable. And it wasn't that great to begin with. In hindsight, I really should have bought a HTC phone (assuming there existed one with a physical keyboard at the time).
The reason I won't pay for apps is because what has happened to me quite a many times with both my phone and my computer. I buy a program or app I need, happily use it and after a month, discover that there has existed a free alternative the whole time that is actually better. Cue me being pissed off. I have learned my lesson and right now, there is no software on my phone that I paid for and the only software on my computer that actually costed money are the operating system and games. That doesn't mean I won't donate to the authors of the software afterwards.
The only experience I have with Android is via my work phone, but I don't know about how customizable it is, because the work phone has been heavily restricted.
Tych0n said:
The Xperia X1 has otherwise 95% of what I need, but it's starting to physically break and it has become abominably slow and unstable. And it wasn't that great to begin with. In hindsight, I really should have bought a HTC phone (assuming there existed one with a physical keyboard at the time).
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The Xperia X1 was made by HTC.
Oh, well, something other than the X1, then, preferably something that used HTC's UI.
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Oh, well, something other than the X1, then, preferably something that used HTC's UI.
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i thought buying an HTC cellphone is reather better than other android cellphones for 2 things:
1- its tough... it doesn't break easily, even with tiny hinges holding the screen...
2- it has Sense UI...
but turns out, Sense UI really affects performance, even on stock unrooted, the phone was really slow... although HTC Sense offers great look... but no performance comparing to other UIs
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May be, but it's been my favorite since I first saw it.
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but turns out, Sense UI really affects performance, even on stock unrooted, the phone was really slow... although HTC Sense offers great look... but no performance comparing to other UIs
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I've only found the launcher (home screen and app tray, for the OP) itself to really be any effect on performance, and its easy enough to use an alternate launcher. And the lag on the Sense launcher is really not as bad as some make it out to be.
Its purely a matter of personal taste, of course. But my personal opinion is that Sense is a much more aesthetic, refined, and unified Android experience than AOSP, or other manufacturer skins.
Of course, the beauty of Android is that if you don't like Sense, you can always flash a more vanilla ROM, or something else like MIUI.
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The reason I won't pay for apps is because what has happened to me quite a many times with both my phone and my computer. I buy a program or app I need, happily use it and after a month, discover that there has existed a free alternative the whole time that is actually better. Cue me being pissed off. I have learned my lesson and right now, there is no software on my phone that I paid for and the only software on my computer that actually costed money are the operating system and games. That doesn't mean I won't donate to the authors of the software afterwards.
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If you are just talking utilities and useful apps, I think you will be right at home on Android. I honestly can't think of any utilities that you HAVE to pay for. Many are either free, or have a paid premium version with extra features (or remove ads), if you like the free version and decide to pay.
Desire Z it is, then!
I can get one from two different places without a nordic keyboard for ~300€ or one with nordic keyboard for ~500€. Guess which one I'll buy...
I came to Android on the DZ from a WinMo phone. Best move I ever made, Android made my old WinMo (which I was happy with at the time) look like a laggy, clunky joke.
Welcome to Android !
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
If you want a qwerty-slider android phone I don't think you can do better than the DZ. My preferred rom is virtuous affinity - this give a smooth and very usable sense 3.5 experience. However, I would do think this phone is at the end of its lifespan. The built in ram and the single core cpu are going to limit how much further it can be pushed and I don't think we are ever going to see usable/smooth ics or sense 4 on this handset.
If you want a qwerty-slider android phone I don't think you can do better than the DZ - but I wish there was!! Come on HTC where's the quad core 4.7in HD qwerty-slider I want so badly
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If you want a qwerty-slider android phone I don't think you can do better than the DZ - but I wish there was!! Come on HTC where's the quad core 4.7in HD qwerty-slider I want so badly
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This a million times! I'm astonished that there's so few sliders with full keyboards out there. The market is dominated by those goddamn slates. I've watched my friends write with the virtual keyboards of iPhones, Galaxies and whatever, and it always looks slow, clumsy and awkward. They even have to use predictive text input to compensate for the slowness. In contrast, writing with a QWERTY thumb keyboard is a breeze. The Desire Z is apparently pretty much the newest and best Android slider there is on the market, but it still has a WVGA screen, while pretty much every new slate has some HD-super-gizmo screen. What the hell? My Xperia has a WVGA...
But anyway, seeing as I can get a DZ for LESS (~300€) than I paid for my X1 (~450€), I'm happy even though it might not be the fastest and newest there is.
I'm a big fan of hardware keyboards too. I switched from the Motorola Droid to the HTC G2. I found the keyboard on the G2 to be not so good. Not sure if it's just because I got mine used on ebay and it was worn, but it doesn't look like it's worn out. I've noticed the keyboard tends to miss/duplicate keystrokes often. So I've been tending to use the on screen keyboard, which is really good. I think the on screen keys are bigger than on the droid so it's pretty easy to type on. But I found the hardware keyboard to be much slower to type on than the Droid.
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I've noticed the keyboard tends to miss/duplicate keystrokes often.
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That could be from wear. The keyboard of my X1 worked flawlessly in the beginning, now it duplicates and misses keystrokes all the time. It's still better than the virtual keyboards, though...
Yeah, so was interested in moving on from Android due to (*sigh*) the poor quality phones I got (a Samsung Galaxy Spica and a Defy+. Both ended up acting like retarded phones, even if I didn't try putting custom ROMs on them - except the Spica, where all I tried was an unofficial update to 2.1, which I made since the bastards in Romania didn't want to update.) and to switch to a Nokia Lumia 800 if I'll get to, or to a second hand HTC HD2 (but this is again risky and I don't wanna end up with a ****phone instead of a smartphone.).
Now, I know there are major flaws regarding the number of apps in the market. Yet I was wondering, are there any:
-Third-party FREE browsers out there? And if there are, are there any who also accept Flash? Or even Google as a search engine. IIRC someone ported Opera for WP 7.5, right?
-Facebook - might seem weird, but I wouldn't want to use the People Hub for the Facebook integration, I'd prefer to use a different FB app. AFAIK there is one, but I suppose it doesn't force you to use the People Hub, right?
-Games - and here I mean addictive ones. Temple Run might seem pretty impossible to accomplish, but stuff similar to Angry Birds should be in the store, right?
-Google apps - I don't have the Android OS, but I hate that the Android OS is being built on phone companies to whom I lack respect. Google Maps is there as well, right? And Google Plus, correct?
-The YouTube app. Yes, that one. I know that this is a major flaw of WP but because of Google. So, was wondering, is there a decent client?...
I knew there was one awesome app, but which was discontinued because it was badly built or so.
Thanks for the support guys!
Also, if the OS has other flaws, please inform me
1. Yes, but they're inferior to IE. No flash.
2. Correct.
3. Yes.
4. Unofficial google maps and G+ apps. IMO they're not good.
5. Yes, there are multiple youtube apps that are good.
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Hi,
I also switch phones from an Android to a WP. I love Android OS but had a LG GW620 that was one of the first models of Android made by LG. the hardware was very slow.
WP having minimal requirements, like iphone's, make all wp fast and fluid.
The first thing an Android user will say about WP is the lack of freedom in the OS, but when you start to use it and understand it, you will see that all is made with a logic.
For me WP is simple and intuitive, with a good custom rom becomes a great phone
There is a FB app with the new update some circles say its nicer than the one from iOS....people hub is actually pretty simple once you get used to it set up your different groups to watch over and all.
With Youtube I find Youtube Pro to be the best one it allows you to watch not just regular quality but also HD quality videos(out before the other OSes had this funtion)and it allows you to download the video to your phone.
Just moved also from Android
I use People Hub but also have the FB app on there
Use YouTube Pro and it works great also.
Reminds me
I haven't played a single game on it yet
One thing though. the Lumia 800 has what I consider a small screen.
Maybe look at the HTC HD7 or something?
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One thing though. the Lumia 800 has what I consider a small screen.
Maybe look at the HTC HD7 or something?
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HD7 = HD2 with WP7. Don't buy either, both have slow hardware. Buy Lumia 710, 800 or wait for 900 if you need a bigger screen.
What i can say is that coming from Android and iOS world, you will see and feel a fluid system that has a unique design and operate mode. WP doesnt have at all nothing that remind other OS, its just then. Its the newer so we dont have too customizations like others have, we still dont have many attentions from devs. I like the system at all lets hope that Nokia helps this system grows and then more partnerships will come but if you are tired of android and ios same face and same fluid, u will enjoy a lot wp.
I suggest Omnia 7 or Lumia 800 if u wish to buy now, of course if u cant wait, Lumia 900 will be the best option.
Omnia 7 it still a great and up to date device, the samsung 4inch amoled screen its great.
Lumia 800 has a new design and good finishing.
HD7 has a bigger screen but his SLCD has a poor display, white balances is like a ghost.
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If possible stick with either the Lumia 800 or wait a bit for 900. It is becoming increasingly clear that Nokia is the brand you want to stick with if you are going to have a Windows Phone. Their app suite is reason enough. Nokia Drive, Maps, Transport, TuneIn etc. are excellent apps. COmbine these with Bing Maps and Bing Search and you really won't see the need for Google Services. I believe there is a 3rd party Google+ app with Google making their own in the near future. I've hacked my Samsung Focus to be able to use the Nokia apps and it's the best hack ive ever applied to a phone. Get a Lumia and this willl be unnecessary.
There is Nokia Drive and Nokia Maps, better than Google Maps
As for browsers
http://www.favbrowser.com/windows-phones-uc-browser-speed-dial-open-links-in-background-and-more/
Another thing: What would be the differences between Lumia 800 and 900, besides bigger screen and weaker battery?...
EgoMaximus said:
There is Nokia Drive and Nokia Maps, better than Google Maps
As for browsers
http://www.favbrowser.com/windows-phones-uc-browser-speed-dial-open-links-in-background-and-more/
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Google Maps has more updates than Nokia Drive or Maps, and sooner or later will have street view like in the Android apps
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Another thing: What would be the differences between Lumia 800 and 900, besides bigger screen and weaker battery?...
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It has bigger battery, isn't curved, has a front facing camera, not pentile, has gyroscope and uses a different CPU model
Just got the Lumia 900, as my company phone, and so far, its pretty decent. I definitely like the smoothness of the OS, and the simplicity of use is very nice. That being said, I HATE the keyboard! I have been using swype for nearly 2 years, and there just isn't anything to compare with it. Also, the lack of a task manager or exit button for certain apps is annoying. Had to logout of Pandora in order to get Metro Radio to stop running. This is just day one, and those ar the issues I have noticed. To me, they're big enough that I wouldn't choose wp7 as my personal phone, but they're not big enough for me to request an Android for work. My Galaxy Note personal phone is a good enough Android fix for me.
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Btw, google maps on android is still better than ay other navigation on any other OS.
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I'm in the UK and I just imported the Samsung Focus S from the USA. I was annoyed that it wasn't available here and I couldn't see another WP7 phone worth my time - yes, sorry I also mean the Nokia Lumia 800.
No front facing camera on a phone in 2012 (especially a supposed flagship phone)
So, here's my take on WP7... it's gorgeous, very slick and beautiful... so much of it makes sense... But...
The 'but' is a big one...Basically, it's not quite ready. Little things that I took for granted coming from Android basically suck on WP7. And let me be clear, I thought Android was a horrible mash of different bits welded together!
So, the People hub, it's fantastic... the Facebook Chat integration blows big time! I use Facebook Chat(Messenger on Android) to talk to my wife during the day and she is constantly sending me pics of our daughter. No, WP7 sees you as offline on the website and therefore will not submit a message. Pictures come in as links to the website. Not the mobile site, the full website which when you zoom DRAGS the screen to the left like its attached to a bloody rubber band!
It gets worse when you venture into the FB app itself. Pictures in Messager view do not even show up. You end up with a blank message. I have yet to receive an alert in the app. The app loads constantly. It's not just the FB app that does this. Supposed apps that are running under screen lock (is this a numpty way of saying 'in the background'??!) still come up with a big splash screen when you flick back through the task switcher.
This all makes this experience very frustrating. Application resuming is sloooowwwww!
No turn by turn directions and maps
IE9 is not fantastic, but it's ok
So, all this actually makes me miss Android. I am so bitterly disappointed that after 3 days I'm tempted to sell the phone on. I thought I could ride out the wait for WP8, but I really can't. I'd rather go back to my old, rather slow and inadequate HTC Desire at this point. And it hurts... because everything else is so beautiful. The Focus S is a beautiful device. The OS is buttery smooth and is so polished in it's presentation... but... the but is the killer here.
Don't know if I can stick it out... I'm crushed. Maybe I just got too far into the Google echo system?
I think that WP OS is designed to poeple who really wants to experience a unique and different system. Off course moving from iOS or Android u will notice that a lot of settings arent available. Its still growing, if we remember NoDo and how Mango growed...i think Apollo will come with a great evolution, im sure that MS is working hard, the thing is, they really dont want to copy nothing from other OS, they still wanna do an unique OS. The lack of products with WP causes lack of people developing to it and also giving a feedback to MS and im sure this is the point that MS miss a lot and then they have to build something that they believe and not that people are asking.
I like very much my Omnia 7, dont miss or die for a feature settings, off course i will be glad if had more app and games but the system is good, fluid and responsive and im sure to a touch phone this are the main concern.
I am using Google calender, contacts and Mail and its working perfect with Android. How are these things under wp7?
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groovinroovin said:
I am using Google calender, contacts and Mail and its working perfect with Android. How are these things under wp7?
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x2 - this is the personal experience I want to hear about.
With devs like utaka giving up n samsung's ****ty attitude,is the future of AOSP development in the dark for this great device with the AOSP roms vanishing slowly?
aamitabh28 said:
With devs like utaka giving up n samsung's ****ty attitude,is the future of AOSP development in the dark for this great device with the AOSP roms vanishing slowly?
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To the best of my knowledge, there is substantial dev support for the Note II. CM is rolling of nighlies even as we speak and PA is not left behind. JellyBam is also adding his own humble contribution. There are also substantial rom cooks dishing out various verities.
I understand initially, devs kicked against Sammy's policy but I guess Sammy was given a last chance, and we saw some dev activities. I for one actually waited till I saw activities befor ordering mine.
If Utacka is giving up, that will be a shame because, he made us good PA rom in Note I
It's a Great loss..for the community.I loved his work
As for cm 10.1 entropy says its dead on 4412 devices due to lack of sources..darn samsung..why cant they just release the frickin sources!
Not gonna cry too much.. Touchwiz > AOSP in my opinion.
- Camera is way better with a lot more options, notably burst mode and widescreen.. why does stock force you to take 4:3 pictures? this isn't 1998 anymore, all monitors/TVs are widescreen
- Gallery is much improved with different view types, video previews, play on hover, etc..
- FB contact integration out of the box, no need to mess around with Haxsync or other apps
- Multi-window, that alone trumps stock
- T9 Dialer
- Smart stay: When reading long text I got used to touching my screen every 30 seconds to keep it from turning off, never again
- Smart rotate: call this a "gimmick" all you want, but it's really nice to be able to lie down and read something without first disabling auto-rotate
- Contact list: smoothly integrated with the Phone app, no more ugly white theme that's oddly out of place with the rest of the UI
- S-Beam is much faster and more practical than Android Beam (you have both in Touchwiz anyway)
- Not counting all the s-pen apps since those are specific to the Note 2
- Overall feel of the OS feels less segmented and more cohesive
- Loads of small improvement all across the OS, things that make you say "oh nice, I don't need 4-5 steps to do that anymore"
So not too sad to see all the buggy AOSP roms disappear
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Not gonna cry too much.. Touchwiz > AOSP in my opinion.
- Camera is way better with a lot more options, notably burst mode and widescreen.. why does stock force you to take 4:3 pictures? this isn't 1998 anymore, all monitors/TVs are widescreen
- Gallery is much improved with different view types, video previews, play on hover, etc..
- FB contact integration out of the box, no need to mess around with Haxsync or other apps
- Multi-window, that alone trumps stock
- T9 Dialer
- Smart stay: When reading long text I got used to touching my screen every 30 seconds to keep it from turning off, never again
- Smart rotate: call this a "gimmick" all you want, but it's really nice to be able to lie down and read something without first disabling auto-rotate
- Contact list: smoothly integrated with the Phone app, no more ugly white theme that's oddly out of place with the rest of the UI
- S-Beam is much faster and more practical than Android Beam (you have both in Touchwiz anyway)
- Not counting all the s-pen apps since those are specific to the Note 2
- Overall feel of the OS feels less segmented and more cohesive
- Loads of small improvement all across the OS, things that make you say "oh nice, I don't need 4-5 steps to do that anymore"
So not too sad to see all the buggy AOSP roms disappear
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100% agree with u , in the other hand i really love aosp roms but not for the Gnote
if u want to run aosp on note2 just throw ur s note pen in the drawer it will become like useless mouse :silly:
i know that maybe aosp roms a bit faster or lighter on ram but note2 have 2 GB of ram and beast cpu so there is no problem with TW
and samsung is the fastest company after Google to update their devices after Google ( i don't have problem waiting 2-3 month to get new android version after google release it )
I bought the note for the spen and its features.
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It's a great loss... I think that we have a bad future... :crying: I hate Sammy roms...
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It's a great loss... I think that we have a bad future... :crying: I hate Sammy roms...
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buy a Nexus :silly:
Sure, but the Nexus doesn't have 5,5", 3100mAh, SD-Card, removable battery, spen,... I prefer my Note phone...with AOSP roms!
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I'm not trying to start a flame war, but did you read his post?:
Im gonna order sony phone (Xperia T or new sony phablet 2013) and continue my work there. Thanks for this and one last time: im not gonna stop updating as long as 4.1.2 is still maintained by CM.
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Not gonna cry too much.. Touchwiz > AOSP in my opinion.
- Camera is way better with a lot more options, notably burst mode and widescreen.. why does stock force you to take 4:3 pictures? this isn't 1998 anymore, all monitors/TVs are widescreen
- Gallery is much improved with different view types, video previews, play on hover, etc..
- FB contact integration out of the box, no need to mess around with Haxsync or other apps
- Multi-window, that alone trumps stock
- T9 Dialer
- Smart stay: When reading long text I got used to touching my screen every 30 seconds to keep it from turning off, never again
- Smart rotate: call this a "gimmick" all you want, but it's really nice to be able to lie down and read something without first disabling auto-rotate
- Contact list: smoothly integrated with the Phone app, no more ugly white theme that's oddly out of place with the rest of the UI
- S-Beam is much faster and more practical than Android Beam (you have both in Touchwiz anyway)
- Not counting all the s-pen apps since those are specific to the Note 2
- Overall feel of the OS feels less segmented and more cohesive
- Loads of small improvement all across the OS, things that make you say "oh nice, I don't need 4-5 steps to do that anymore"
So not too sad to see all the buggy AOSP roms disappear
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It's true, Samsungs ROM is much more useful with this thing. It's just that, this thing is ugly as hell. Compare it to CM Theme Engine - fresh look with the snap of a finger. Outer beauty beats inner beauty? Well, for now I'd stay with Samsung ROM.
Sent and typofied with Note II
No pen no interest, that's what it comes down to I reckon
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It is not about how sammy roms are more feautured or more beautiful it is about having the possibility of choice. Every populer Android device has this CM or AOSP options until now. And Android is my choice because of its possibilities of being able to transform into different user experiences.. I must decide this, not the company who stoles and lies to the people about discussing and deciding to release the source even though they have to according to the GPL.. . I honestly do not know how many people does not even root their phones but still there are a lot of people out there who believes in the potential of android software to get even better an dthose people deserve to have the option to choose what is best for themselves.. besides I want to believe more developers will develop their 3rd party apps and games for the more available sourced chipsets.. so the-once-most-powerful exynos is going to go down on the developers' preference list..
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It is not about how sammy roms are more feautured or more beautiful it is about having the possibility of choice. Every populer Android device has this CM or AOSP options until now. And Android is my choice because of its possibilities of being able to transform into different user experiences.. I must decide this, not the company who stoles and lies to the people about discussing and deciding to release the source even though they have to according to the GPL.. . I honestly do not know how many people does not even root their phones but still there are a lot of people out there who believes in the potential of android software to get even better an dthose people deserve to have the option to choose what is best for themselves.. besides I want to believe more developers will develop their 3rd party apps and games for the more available sourced chipsets.. so the-once-most-powerful exynos is going to go down on the developers' preference list..
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+1. Absolutely. It's about having the possibility of choice.
I'm not happy at all my phones going on eBay while I can still get a few ££££ .... Samsung just lost a customer....
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You can use the S Pen with CM or AOSP roms. There are plenty of apps in Google Play that work with the S Pen and most are better than Samsung's S Note. I use Freenote. I use CM and I do not miss any of the Samsung features such as multiview and S Note.
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+1. Absolutely. It's about having the possibility of choice.
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Thanks for the support. If i was living in another country where i could believe the justice would apply to everyone adn Samsung exists as a company, i would sue Samsung and would not hire a lawyer. I would just say 'we hire the technology for a limited time nowadays. We do not buy it. And if we "tag" the reasons why we choose them by words Android would not get the "perfection", "smoothness", "defragmantetion", "optimised" words. It would get the "customiseblity", "wide range", "choices".. So this means everyone who pays great amount of money to their Android devices actually are aware of the fact that things could go "bad" or they would want more out of their devices. Very very few people buy their products "only" for Gmail checking and book reading. Once you go to the Google Play the problems start and people also start to seek solutions to their problems for their "not-so-cheap" devices. They start to search because deep down every Android user knows there should be a solution to their problems since many many people are using these devices and they paid very high amounts. But as i said, we just hire them. So there is no excuse when the service that we pay for are not there for us. And releasing the sources when a few more devices with Exynos 5 are out will not do any good to anyone because the "hiring" process works with the "valuable in the right time" rule. So there is no meaning of releasing the soruces after our devices are out of date and out of interest anymore. Because once newer devices are out it is going to be like we have paid good amount of moneys for a long await, long enough to reduce our devices values. Once we lose the dominating advantage of our CPUs and GPUs, there will not be any use for the sources because people will be already moved on and we wasted money for a waiting which got us lose money and time. So this is clearly cheating customers, lying and also not obeying to the GPL rules'
So even though i love Samsung devices if there will not be any upcoming good news by the new year My new device will never be a Samsung.. because i was supporting them for supporting my country with some scholarships but with a few hours of search i have learned they got involved with "bribing business" and did not even bother to fire the guy. And also are lying to the public about the sources, they can not even be a man about not releasing the sources. And i am very very sure a few thousand of people would listen to me about phone advises in the popular Turkish forums (i have advised hundereds in face to face). So i will not sink the company obviously but i will not let them get any money from a high amount of people either.
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Not gonna cry too much.. Touchwiz > AOSP in my opinion.
- Camera is way better with a lot more options, notably burst mode and widescreen.. why does stock force you to take 4:3 pictures? this isn't 1998 anymore, all monitors/TVs are widescreen
- Gallery is much improved with different view types, video previews, play on hover, etc..
- FB contact integration out of the box, no need to mess around with Haxsync or other apps
- Multi-window, that alone trumps stock
- T9 Dialer
- Smart stay: When reading long text I got used to touching my screen every 30 seconds to keep it from turning off, never again
- Smart rotate: call this a "gimmick" all you want, but it's really nice to be able to lie down and read something without first disabling auto-rotate
- Contact list: smoothly integrated with the Phone app, no more ugly white theme that's oddly out of place with the rest of the UI
- S-Beam is much faster and more practical than Android Beam (you have both in Touchwiz anyway)
- Not counting all the s-pen apps since those are specific to the Note 2
- Overall feel of the OS feels less segmented and more cohesive
- Loads of small improvement all across the OS, things that make you say "oh nice, I don't need 4-5 steps to do that anymore"
So not too sad to see all the buggy AOSP roms disappear
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But Touchwiz do not have tablet mode
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Elle233 said:
But Touchwiz do not have tablet mode
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So what
Alot of roms dont have tablet mode.
I agree Sammys stock rom isn't the nicest looking but at least give it a few months until there's some decent update before flashing new roms and complaining about stock and lack of development. I don't think the UI will change all that much but just use go launcher or something. If your rooted just freeze everything you don't need wit TB.
People are OBSESSED with new roms and I think alot of ppl do it just to say "Oh you have a Note II, me too. Look at my custom ROM and how cool I it looks". Instead of "Oh you have a Note II, me to. Look how smooth and fluid it works"
Then again I prefer roms build off sammys base (prob all in my head)
Who knows what's happening anymore. I see developers moving to the xperia t...but then I see locked boot loaders and no working camera (cm10).
I see our note 2 with no support from Samsung, although they did say something would happen by the end of the year and no one has patience.
The HTC one x has no expandable memory and the poor tegra 3 chip that was pretty much outdated 2 months after its release.
There's really nothing that can run aosp as well as a nexus device. But then again, they lack features like expandable memory.
So in the end no one will ever be happy with anything.
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