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HTC HD2 or Desire - some questions

Hi guys,
I have HD2 and next month going to update my wife's contract.
Would u buy another HD2 or go for Desire?
- can u record all calls in Desire?
- do u have on Desire any decent navigation like Garmin or iGo8
- how long keeps the battery?
Thanks for all answers.
All the best

Desire is better than the HD2 IMO - I've got both and it's Android all day for me!!
- Google Maps is free and better than iGO
- You can record calls if needed (don't think so out the box, though)
- Battery life is about the same, 1-2 days depending on use

EddyOS said:
- Google Maps is free and better than iGO
- You can record calls if needed (don't think so out the box, though)
- Battery life is about the same, 1-2 days depending on use
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- why? have u tried Garmin or iGo on your HD2?
- Im using VITO Audio Notes to record all calls and it works brill, cant find this
program works on Desire, do u know any?
- HD2 battery can keep 12-15h, I am using internet often

The HD2 is pretty out of date. There's little chance it'll be upgraded to WM7 so sooner rather than later, you'll find yourself a bit in the lurch when it comes to newer appsand such. The Desire, on the other hand, is definitely getting Froyo (2.2) and will probably get Gingerbread as well, who knows what else. Plus thanks to Android's community, you'll get future updates for a long time, particularly due to its similarities with the Google Nexus One.
So from a purely "future proof" perspective, the desire wins.
When it comes to recording calls, there's an app for that. Battery life is going to be similar to the HD2, so it'll depend on what ROM/Kernel you're using, but generally they're comparable. Navigation I'm not so sure on, but google maps is pretty solid and is being updated all the time. I believe one of the other big SatNav companies has, or is working on, an android version as well.
Basically, I'd say get the desire.

There are also other good nav programs out there like copilot or sygic, but as everybody says, google maps navigation es very good and now offers street view (when u arrive at the destination i believe) and yes, there are programs to record calls (same as hd2, doesn't have such a program out of the box either!!)
Desire all the way (this is coming from an ex-touch hd owner, wich isn't as fast as hd2, but i know winmo very well!!!)

qwerty1q said:
- why? have u tried Garmin or iGo on your HD2?
- Im using VITO Audio Notes to record all calls and it works brill, cant find this
program works on Desire, do u know any?
- HD2 battery can keep 12-15h, I am using internet often
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Yes I've tried iGO on the HD2 and it's crap compared to Google Maps IMO

I am a recent convert, I had the HD2 and love flashing it .
However I am glad I moved to the Desire, generally Android is a MUCH BETTER OS!
More app support etc
And you still get the benefits of HTC Sense UI
Im so glad to have a phone that just works!
And google maps navigation is the best !

There are few apps for Win-Mo and next to no free apps. Reason enough to avoid

al89nut said:
There are few apps for Win-Mo and next to no free apps. Reason enough to avoid
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Plus Win 6.5.x OS is pretty much dead, no Win 7 upgrade and such.

I sold my HD2 to get my Desire. There isn't a market place for the HD. no free apps of worth nor any reasonable priced ones. If you don't mind the phone as it is out the box its not bad, but the Desire is FAR SUPERIOR. From operation to apps, to even the screen.
Desire ftw
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Thanks guys for all posts.
Regarding call recording - people complain that u can record only your voice, the other side is missing or very quiet.
Can u send me a link call recording program on Desire? Cant find any.
Do I need to flash Desire or current software for O2 UK is fine?
Cheers

Depends if you like the customisations O2 make to their phones. Personally, I always get phones SIM-free when upgrading (from CPW, P4U, etc) as you can then get updates straight from HTC as opposed to waiting on the operator...

Yesterday I sold my HD2 and got a Desire. Android is much better, fluent and nice looking OS that Windows Mobile.
You questions:
- since I can't use google navigation in Bulgaria I have to search for other options. I found that iGO has a version for Android. It's called iGO My Way - http://www.igomyway.com/android/en/overview.html. I haven't tried it yet, but I will when I have some free time this weekend. As far as I know it uses the maps form iGO, so if you were happy before with iGO, you should be with my way also.
- about the battery life - I can't tell you since I didn't used it enough time, but it's been 8 hours since the full charge and now the battery is on 70%. During that time I've installed 3-4 apps, at least 10 minutes of browsing, 10 minutes of talk time. Compared to the HD2 - with that time since a full charge and this usage, now it would be at 50%.

I've had desire for almost a week now, like all new things I've had a good play and enjoyed it for the most part.
It's fair to say if you are mad in love with all the [email protected] apps Android wins hands down.
However, as a phone the rom scene on Desire doesn't come close to HD2. Leo's Energy roms in particular are simply amazing the Dinik Glass Cookie mod is pure pleasure and has a beautiful interface absolutely knocks any desire rom I've seen into the long grass. The bigger screen may not be amoled but I find it more comfortable. I have all the Sat Nav apps for PPC and as a rule they all destroy Iphone/Android counterparts. Igo works on the Desire but it's slightly more of an ar$e to get working WELL.
As a phone personally (I've owned them all) I think HD2 wins over both Desire and Iphone 3GS. If you are an app man it slips to last place despite having superior Sat Nav (because thats almost all it does have). So far for me the Iphone is in last place bacause I detested it TBH. I know you're not asking about the Iphone but thought I'd share my thoughts on hod the HD2 compares to my last 3 phones.
This is based solely on the fact a hundred variations of iFart style apps and nice looking but ultimatly hard to control games do nothing for me.
I still have my HD2 and I think as a measure of how much I prefer it I think it will be my tool of choice for my forthcoming holiday. I'm using the Desire day by day at the mo but haven't decided if I'll keep it yet.

spritable said:
Yesterday I sold my HD2 and got a Desire. Android is much better, fluent and nice looking OS that Windows Mobile.
You questions:
- since I can't use google navigation in Bulgaria I have to search for other options. I found that iGO has a version for Android. It's called iGO My Way - http://www.igomyway.com/android/en/overview.html. I haven't tried it yet, but I will when I have some free time this weekend. As far as I know it uses the maps form iGO, so if you were happy before with iGO, you should be with my way also.
- about the battery life - I can't tell you since I didn't used it enough time, but it's been 8 hours since the full charge and now the battery is on 70%. During that time I've installed 3-4 apps, at least 10 minutes of browsing, 10 minutes of talk time. Compared to the HD2 - with that time since a full charge and this usage, now it would be at 50%.
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ht tp://foru m.xda-developers.co m/sh owthread.ph p?t=630887
Get rid of the spaces. Brut maps offers Google Navigation anywhere.

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Which one do I keep HD2 or Desire?
Done keeping Desire, on o2 in Uk it comes supplied with some satnav software.
Not tried it much but seems very well with turn by turn voice guidance.

safsephiroth666 said:
ht tp://foru m.xda-developers.co m/sh owthread.ph p?t=630887
Get rid of the spaces. Brut maps offers Google Navigation anywhere.
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Thanks for pointing that out. I will have a look right away...
BTW, I found a WVGA version of iGO for the Desire. It's called iGO Motonav and it uses the iGO 8.3 maps and has a nice GUI.

qwerty1q said:
Hi guys,
I have HD2 and next month going to update my wife's contract.
Would u buy another HD2 or go for Desire?
- can u record all calls in Desire?
- do u have on Desire any decent navigation like Garmin or iGo8
- how long keeps the battery?
Thanks for all answers.
All the best
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I have both hand sets battery for me far better on the HD2 with a good rom and radio and to be honest any of those kind of tweeks are far easyer on the windows phone.
copilot works realy well on both hand sets
i think there are .cab , .apk on both phones if you wantd to record calls

Having spent a week searching for any calls recorder on Desire, my conclusion is - you can't record calls on Desire. This is essential for my job, so I will buy another HD2 then.
Any idea about Dell Streak? The same questions for the first post.
Thanks for all answers

desire or xperia x10 or samsung galaxy S?

I`m a bit confused right now ... i really loved the HTC evo 4G but since i live in India ... i cant get my hands on that...
The only good phones i am left with are desire , xperia x10 or samsung galaxy
Pls let me know which one should i go for
And i wanted to know how are the games in desire .. are they even comparable to iphone games??... and can it be jailbreaked like the iphone????

heres a youtube vid of nova on the desire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vn2DuPeE-E

Avoid the Xperia X10, mainly due to the terrible terrible battery life and the fact it's still running Android 1.6, as well has having much lower performance than the Desire and Nexus One which use almost identical internals.
As for 'jailbreaking', in Android circles the equivalent is known as 'rooting' to enable you to install all the awesome custom firmwares available on this forum to enable new features, speed up your device or even get the latest versions of Android before they're even released.
Games-wise, there is a decent selection, but truthfully the iPhone is the king of mobile gaming. I haven't found this to be a problem however, as I realised after owning an iPod Touch before my android phone that with most games I'll play them for a few minutes when I download them and then never really touch them again. I use music, video, email, social networking and general internet browsing far more.
As for Desire vs Galaxy S...kind of hard to choose.
Galaxy S Pros and Cons:
+ Large, amazing Super AMOLED screen
+ Most powerful Android device out, especially it's GPU (for 3D games)
+ DivX video support
+ Video-out if you want to connect it to a screen
+ Reportedly great sound quality for headphones
+ Battery life better than most other high-end Android phones
- The phone itself looks like a cheap iPhone ripoff (why Samsung why?!)
- Samsung use their 'TouchWiz' interface on top of Android which looks kind of ugly and adds little
- Samsung don't have a good track record with updates...they've confirmed Froyo but no word on whether it'll ever get anything above that
- Reportedly all custom roms will need to be based off Samsung's official roms, so won't have as large a variety as HTC phones
- Apparently many users have had GPS problems
HTC Desire Pros and Cons:
+ Huge variety of custom roms
+ Similarity with Nexus One means since Nexus One gets updates first, most can be quickly ported to Desire
+ HTC Sense interface on top of Android looks great and improves usability (especially the widgets)
+ HTC's default apps for mail, weather, etc are extremely well designed
+ Will most likely be able to run Android 3.0 (Gingerbread) ported from the Nexus One once it's released
+ Very good build quality and nicer-looking hardware
- Battery life not as good
- Smaller screen that's regular AMOLED rather than Samsung's new variety
- Not as powerful as Galaxy S
Hope that helps! I'm currently in the middle of deciding between the Desire and Galaxy S myself, so done a fair bit of research and tried both out.

AXIS of Reality said:
- Not as powerful as Galaxy S
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as you can see my quadrant score says diffrent

That would be because you're running Froyo, which the Galaxy S has been confirmed to be receiving later this year. =P
The more apt comparison is lower on that graph showing the 2.1 Desire and Nexus One far lower than the 2.1 Galaxy S.

well thanks for that .. i am leaning towards htc desire more now ... just to confirm are there any better andriod phones in the market which are gsm and available outside US ??

AndroHero said:
as you can see my quadrant score says diffrent
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Which battery meter are you using?

vinayendra: since you mentioned only games in your post, my advice to you is to avoid android platform and go with Iphone if games are your priority...
If you still need to choose between these 3 phones, Galaxy would be your choice, cause it's better GPU will be advantage with games

I cant speak for the galaxy S but having used both desire and the xperia the desire wins hands down. The xperia is really laggy and the old version of android is a deal breaker. Once sony pull their fingers out and update the xperia it might be a different story but I dont think we will see that for a few more months yet
the only advantage the xperia has is the large internal apps storage, you dont need to root it if your wanting loads of apps unlike the desire

AndroHero said:
heres a youtube vid of nova on the desire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vn2DuPeE-E
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id love to know how to get that game running on my desire, I had it for my palm pre and loved it but the desire just gives me a black screen then it closes

djoni1980 said:
vinayendra: since you mentioned only games in your post, my advice to you is to avoid android platform and go with Iphone if games are your priority...
If you still need to choose between these 3 phones, Galaxy would be your choice, cause it's better GPU will be advantage with games
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Games or not my priority .. i already have a ipod touch ... for me the main things are cool apps maybe even GPS , email and very good user interface ... i have a htc 3G touch ... it really sucks ...after having that i had decided not to go for HTC again ... But i cant buy iphone 4 as it takes a year to come to my country ... and i heard andriod phones are awesome ... so going back to HTC
So anyone owns a desire .. plz tell the pros and cons of desire which u felt while using

Take the desire you wont regret it.and someone already mentiond pros & cons on page 1.
You only have to choose
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

AXIS of Reality said:
That would be because you're running Froyo, which the Galaxy S has been confirmed to be receiving later this year. =P
The more apt comparison is lower on that graph showing the 2.1 Desire and Nexus One far lower than the 2.1 Galaxy S.
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can you not read? it clearly says samsung galaxy s 2.2 on the benchmark

pms said:
Which battery meter are you using?
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the one that comes with the expresso theme for 2.2 sence roms

AndroHero said:
can you not read? it clearly says samsung galaxy s 2.2 on the benchmark
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LOL, actually it says <2.2, which is 2.1

djoni1980 said:
LOL, actually it says <2.2, which is 2.1
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oh yeah so it does lol

If you have access to those phones in India go and try them out in person because you won't have a clue on what everyone is going on about except for prior experience on your old Touch.
An Android phone is perfect if you live your online life through Google, if you don't I suggest you move.
An iPhone is known for simplicity and just working until you somehow manage to get yourself into the zoom feature and you're screwed unless you know the zoom out function. These high end phones are true powerhouses in pocket computing and are for more than showing off to your mates that you have a cool phone. If that's all you're going to do, you deserve an iPhone. If you're rolling up your sleeves and learning how to individualise yourself from every other Android user out there then you will quickly learn about live wallpapers, widgets, shortcuts and button combinations. Go further than that and its roms, themes, radios, adb commands so on and so forth.
Know what you want and shop according to it. One of these phones will tick most if not all of your needs and wants. Or something in the near future will. Between the 2 phones, out of the box you are looking at a difference of interface more than anything else. Really suggest you go try them out.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Jabbafat23 said:
If you have access to those phones in India go and try them out in person because you won't have a clue on what everyone is going on about except for prior experience on your old Touch.
An Android phone is perfect if you live your online life through Google, if you don't I suggest you move.
An iPhone is known for simplicity and just working until you somehow manage to get yourself into the zoom feature and you're screwed unless you know the zoom out function. These high end phones are true powerhouses in pocket computing and are for more than showing off to your mates that you have a cool phone. If that's all you're going to do, you deserve an iPhone. If you're rolling up your sleeves and learning how to individualise yourself from every other Android user out there then you will quickly learn about live wallpapers, widgets, shortcuts and button combinations. Go further than that and its roms, themes, radios, adb commands so on and so forth.
Know what you want and shop according to it. One of these phones will tick most if not all of your needs and wants. Or something in the near future will. Between the 2 phones, out of the box you are looking at a difference of interface more than anything else. Really suggest you go try them out.
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I'd mostly agree with that.
Android phones really are 'enthusiast' phones, in the sense that you get out of them what you put in. For example, customising it to work exactly how you want and look how you want it to look.
The iPhone is made as a very controlled system, so you have only the absolute minimum freedom (ie: change your wallpaper or order of icons). This is ideal for many people who want something that just 'works' and has been tuned to be an intuitive experience for the majority of people.
Android is based around making your phone uniquely yours, such as through the use of the homescreens to fill with whatever you want (widgets, controls, shortcuts, folders, etc). What this means is it requires more time and attention than an iPhone, but the end result is a phone and way of working that is of your own design.
Think of it like Lego:
- the iPhone is where you follow the instructions and get what is shown in the picture on the box (which can annoy people who want to do their own thing).
- Android is where you are given a pile of lego bricks to build whatever you want, so it's far more personalised even if it's not as polished as the iPhone (which can confuse or put of people who prefer a guiding hand and it to be done for them)
I'm happy to sacrifice some polish in the interface for the chance to really make my phone mine, but there are many who feel the other way. That's why it's great we have the oppurtunity to choose between Android and iOS (and soon Windows Phone 7, which seems like a halfway point between the two).

thanks for all that ... Now i am convinced to go for a desire which i will buy sometime this week
i have a small doubt ( a n00b one) .. whats the use of "rooting" and installing ROM`s???.. is it the same as "jailbreaking" in iphone where i can install paid apps and games for free and play with my looks ?? ... or is there anyother use??

i have HTC Desire which i bough from a friend in England, (i live in Seattle) and absolutely love it. My co-worker has Tmobile Samsung Vibrant. Ill give my impressions and quick pros and cons, i may sound little bias but here it is.
Samsung Galaxy Pros
Large SuperAMOLED screen, true 800x480 res, multitouch (Which, while is brighter than the Desire, not that much better, almost cant tell the difference.)
Better battery life, Galaxy also comes with 1500 mAh battery whereas Desire come with 1400 mAh ( again only one day of test with moderate use)
Better GPU
16 Gb of internal storage (which is a huge plus)
720p @30 frames video capture (which also is possible on the Desire with a custom ROM)
Cons
Built quality is extremely cheap, back is shiny plastic which is prone to scratches
Has ugly iphone 3GS style bezel around the screen
No camera flash (this one is a huge let down by Samsung which is beyond any comprehension)
Ugly UI which is a blatant iOS rip off (this one may be strictly preferential depending if you like iOS look or not)
Samsungs proven lack of support track record
Not clear whether gonna have large dev support on XDA
External speaker is horrible, tiny sound (Desire is the same)
That is all i can think of at the moment
Desire Cons
Uses old Clear pad 2000 touch panel which lacks true multitouch support or supports it in a broken way (you can google Nexus one touch screen problems, there is 70 pages plus thread about it)
Uses Cheap Pentile pixel arrangement, which some argue is better for media but horrible if ou spend most of the time reading text on your device. ( you can google Pentile on Nexus One, Anandtech.com has very informative article about this)
Eternal speaker is horrible, sound is tiny and quite
video capture is crap
When using on low brightness, screen has pink hue
Battery life is mediocre
Pros
Built quality is way better than Galaxy, also looks sophisticated compared to Galaxy
Camera flash
Huge support from XDA developers since it is almost identical to Nexus One
Runs Sense, although i equally hate Sense, it is a lot better that TouchWiz
Has hardware buttons (this one is a deal breaker for me as Galaxy touch sensitive buttons are unresponsive at times and generally suck)
AMOLED is almost as good as Galaxy's ( aside from cheap ass touch panel that HTC used on Desire and Nexus One, why HTC why)
That is all i can think of at the moment. I am eligible for an upgrade with Tmobile, but i think ill keep the Desire. Just better phone aside from crappy screen. Hope this helps

Desire or galaxy S

Hello,
I dont now which phone to choose. I like both of them. I like Htc sense and touchwiz too. What i need from the phone ?
1. Good media player
2. Good internet browsing
3. good gps
Im thinking to buy a galaxy S, but i heard about cool thing for htc desire called OpenDesire. This thing makes desire really super phone. How do you think will something similar will be gor galaxy S ?

OpenDesire is a stock Android ROM, removing all the HTC Sense gubbins, and isn't something 'available' for the Galaxy S as it's written specifically for the Desire...

im really confused because i dont which phone to choose :/.

Definitely go Desire all the way.
I have heard people complaining the Sammy is slow in menus and GPS is super crap. Takes long to get a lock etc.

MisterMonitor said:
Hello,
I dont now which phone to choose. I like both of them. I like Htc sense and touchwiz too. What i need from the phone ?
1. Good media player
2. Good internet browsing
3. good gps
Im thinking to buy a galaxy S, but i heard about cool thing for htc desire called OpenDesire. This thing makes desire really super phone. How do you think will something similar will be gor galaxy S ?
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hello, I had both Galaxy S as well as the Desire I returned the Galaxy S after just 3 days of use as the battery life was just appalling! It was laggy, hated the UI (very slow compared to previous versions of TouchWiz) and also hated the "iPhone style" in the menu.. I hate iOS which is why I got Android! Also, the screen is very nice, but I really could not put it into my own pocket! Anyways whats the differance 0.3 inches eh?
Now that I('ve got the Desire, I just love it! Sense UI, fast, snappy, and NO lag! NEVER! Notofications bar, better than any notificatio0ns you get on any other phone, pull it down and sellect what you want! Love it! Camera is, well, equal, I dont use it that much to notice!
Music player, very good however in the Desire you dont get an equalizer! Once again, I love the phone!
It may seem that I am being biased, but thats the way I feel Just one more thing, when you type, you make mistakes, just like everyone, on the Galaxy S you have to use you fingers to get that little line to move where you want to correct, whereas on the Desired, you can use the Track Pad! Love this feature!
ohh and about the GPS.. well Galaxy S has accuracy of 5-30 meters (didn't get to test myself, thats what I've read), and on mine Dersire, 1-3 Meters! now you know which to pick!
hope this helps! good Luck!

Thanks for your post. Really helpfull.
But samsung galaxy S is getting 2.2froyo with a lot of fixes and also GPS fix. So i think they will fix lag . Also there's a lagfix for samsung.

Hi, why don't you go to a store, check them both, and buy the one which steals your heart
that's what I do if I need to chose between several phones

You now you can try each of them. But you cant try GPs and other stuff. Its better to ask in forum, because people owns that phones and can say much more prons/cons than you find by trying them

I own both phones. In fact I had a Desire and got rid of it for an iPhone but recently upgraded my contract and got a Galaxy S.
It's a great phone with some nice features such as 720p mkv video playback, streaming is nice too and the Super AMOLED screen is MUCH nicer than the SLCD in the Desire now. Movies look gorgeous on this thing.
However I chose to use the Desire again because it's got a few extras which I missed such as flash, LED notifications, the amount of custom roms available currently including Cyanogenmod 6 (currently use) and also the lag on the Galaxy S was driving me nuts in the end! Even with custom roms and lag fixes applied it would still lag sometimes, especially when trying to answer phone calls. The battery in the Galaxy did seem to a last a bit longer than the desire but I'm sure that can be sorted by watching what apps I use / finding the perfect rom.
At the end of the day they are both great phones and I'm sure you would love whichever one you had. My Dad borrowed my phone today and was watching mks in his dinner hour at work and was so impressed!

Its so hard to make a decision. Desire with OPenDesire ROM is super phone. So fast and battery lives longer and much more. I very like Galaxy S, but he have a buggy OS

MisterMonitor said:
Its so hard to make a decision. Desire with OPenDesire ROM is super phone. So fast and battery lives longer and much more. I very like Galaxy S, but he have a buggy OS
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I had the problem after returning the Galaxy S, I had 2 choices, SE X10 or the Desire, was not disapointed

so the best choice now from androids is HTC Desire ?

MisterMonitor said:
so the best choice now from androids is HTC Desire ?
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If you are asking it on Desire forum, what else would you expect? I personally have desire and I'm very satisfied with it. Earlier I had Galaxy Spica which was ok also over the earlier non-android phone.

MisterMonitor said:
so the best choice now from androids is HTC Desire ?
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Given the Desire is nearly 6 months old now, I'd be inclined to wait a month or two if I were you as new models should launch shortly.
Regards,
Dave

But i heard that samsung have a buggy OS. And have no costum ROMs and etc. There's a lot of good roms for Desire, including the OpenDesire which makes your phone super

Personally I would prefer the Desire over Galaxy S.
I've had a little look at the Galaxy S and I think the camera app is a bit superior over the HTCs built in stuff - and when it gets the FroYo update it will probably be even more so.
But everything else seems nicer, smoother in the Desire.
Also I don't like the iPhone-esque of the Galaxy S - didn't like the iPhone - felt it was restrictive and thus went to Android in the first place... it was either that or the win Phone 7 - and that seems more orientated towards Xbox...

i were almost buying Galaxy S, but then i heard about super thing called OpenDesire. And heard that samsung OS is buggy, laggy. And no costum ROMs

HTC Desire HD/Ace is out soon apparently and looks nice, as is the Desire Z (but that might be US only)

EddyOS said:
HTC Desire HD/Ace is out soon apparently and looks nice, as is the Desire Z (but that might be US only)
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As I understand it, it will be released as the Desire Z in Europe, and the G2 in the US.
However, reports today suggest that the processor is underclocked to 800Mhz, which may mean it is being pitched as a lower end phone than the current Desire. Time will tell, as clock speed isn't everything!
Regards,
Dave

Not very smart to ask this in this section

Worth Buying?

Hello good people,
First of all, Merry Christmas,
So I'm currently looking to buy a new phone. My current phone is a i900 Omnia which is great but I really like the HD2 and DHD. I probably won't buy a new phone for a year or two so would like something which will last.
Is there any people here that had/have a HD2 and upgraded to DHD? Was it worth it? The DHD is about $250 more then HD2 here and I'm wondering if I should get it or not. I like the tweak ability of the HD2 but have never used it so I don't know how it feels whereas I tried out DHD and was very impressed. Even if I did get the HD2 I would still use Android and WinMo for GPS, unless there's something as good as iGO8 on Andoid.
Also I read some people have issues recording in 720p, freezing while recording. Is there a workaround with this issue?
I had only a little play with Android so I'm new to all this root etc...
Thank you, have a nice day

Currently, android on HD2 is not so good as DHD, and I'm sure it's not going to, so pick up your choice between winmo or android.
I myself moved from HD2 to DHD, for finger friendly UI and newly developed apps.
Another good thing is android is both dev and user friendly, no more registry tweaks or volidate cleaning! Apps gone as you want it to, also easy to get back from market.

It is not a bad phone but the battery life sux big time. You need to carry spare battery with you.
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twosix said:
It is not a bad phone but the battery life sux big time. You need to carry spare battery with you.
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I take issue with that statement, battery life on my DHD is typically around 20+ hrs. I use my device constantly with no problem about losing power.
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The battery life is ok for a phone with big display
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Thanks for replies people,
Is the touch screen much different from the HD2, as far as the sensitivity and such? When I tried the DHD I went into the messaging and tested out typing and it was just such a breeze, atm it's always a hustle without a stylus.
I'm not too worried about battery life, I won't be watching movies on the go, maybe just some gaming, web browsing and mp3 playing.
I just want a device that makes my life easier, I read that WinMo on HD2 needs ALOT of tweaks and registry changes to get running how it should be and while I am a computer whiz and love messing around with everything, I think now I just want something that works mint out of the box with great potential if I decide to try other stuff. Also apparently the SuperRAM Android builds on HD2 runs extremely well.
Are there any other good devices with 4.3" screen and 1Ghz CPU? I tried the Galaxy S but didn't like the build quality and typing seemed crap compared to DHD.
Is the DHD what I'm looking for?

Did you say Stylus?? hahahaha.. havent heard that word in a while... plus the stylus doesnt usually work on a capcitive screen..
In respect of HD2.. rightly said.. you need to do a lot of twearks,, but once done you are good to go.. or you find a good custom ROM and you are all set... With Sashmi you can install all your tweaks and the apps automatically when you flash a new ROM.. PLUS to Root (read HSPL) a WinMo phone is just too easy and straightfwd...
While going thru the rooting for DHD, goodness... i got confused.. so many times
ErOR22 said:
Thanks for replies people,
Is the touch screen much different from the HD2, as far as the sensitivity and such? When I tried the DHD I went into the messaging and tested out typing and it was just such a breeze, atm it's always a hustle without a stylus.
I'm not too worried about battery life, I won't be watching movies on the go, maybe just some gaming, web browsing and mp3 playing.
I just want a device that makes my life easier, I read that WinMo on HD2 needs ALOT of tweaks and registry changes to get running how it should be and while I am a computer whiz and love messing around with everything, I think now I just want something that works mint out of the box with great potential if I decide to try other stuff. Also apparently the SuperRAM Android builds on HD2 runs extremely well.
Are there any other good devices with 4.3" screen and 1Ghz CPU? I tried the Galaxy S but didn't like the build quality and typing seemed crap compared to DHD.
Is the DHD what I'm looking for?
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I just upgraded to dhd from hd2 last week. I had been running mdj's dhd roms for more than a month....so the upgrade was not revolutionary. It was not a necessary upgrade except that I was flashing new roms every other day....
The pros of dhd compared to hd2
Slightly better screen...colors and sharpness
Better screen sensitivity
Better battery
Maybe a bit faster and more stable??
Better cam & video
But external speaker is very soft.
if I had known...I prob would not upgrade. Now my son is running mdj gingerbread on the hd2...lots of potential...
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Yes Stylus!! LOL, Omnia has a resistive touchscreen so a stylus makes things easier. Yeah I've been doing alot of reading for HD2 and now how to flash, and I agree that it's much less confusing then rooting the DHD. The initial shock of reading how to root was overwhelming haha!
I think my only best bet now is to go and try a HD2 in a shop, but I must wait till the 5th for shops to open. If I can save 200bux for near same experience then I'm all for it. I'm a student and don't have cash just lying around lol, I mean the DHD costs more then my car!! (Had my 180sx stolen from where I study and needed something which nobody would bother stealing...POS '91 Ford Festiva)
@genting1 Will you be looking to go back to a HD2? Are you now regretting buying? Is the DHD enough?

IN that case.. an HD2 it is for you.. thats the phone I have had the longest
ErOR22 said:
Yes Stylus!! LOL, Omnia has a resistive touchscreen so a stylus makes things easier. Yeah I've been doing alot of reading for HD2 and now how to flash, and I agree that it's much less confusing then rooting the DHD. The initial shock of reading how to root was overwhelming haha!
I think my only best bet now is to go and try a HD2 in a shop, but I must wait till the 5th for shops to open. If I can save 200bux for near same experience then I'm all for it. I'm a student and don't have cash just lying around lol, I mean the DHD costs more then my car!! (Had my 180sx stolen from where I study and needed something which nobody would bother stealing...POS '91 Ford Festiva)
@genting1 Will you be looking to go back to a HD2? Are you now regretting buying? Is the DHD enough?
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Not regret...just that it did not have the WOW factor....as the hd2 and mdj did a fantastic job.
But I do miss my garmin gps on hd2 winmo
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Dude if ur a Android fan then buy a DHD
Yes HD2 is good but its good for moding, Android on it sometimes gets stuck n then u have to put a new build on it
I had hd2 for a long time n its the best phone I had
Learnt a lot about moding on HD2
Just got my DHD 2 weeks ago n no problems so far
HTC did an OTA update that fixed all the issues
Now DHD is the best phone as far as I no
Wait for few more days get some more money
Ask few of ur friends for some maybe they can help u out with ur money problem
But don't buy HD2 if ur gonna use Android for every day use
Hope this helps

To my fellow student...
I know what it's like, the ability and situation to spend money on any device you wish...an upgrade is however, necessary. Your old phone seems quite old, judging by its manufacture date and stylus interactions. What you have to remember, as a student as well as a person, is what device will serve your needs more? Do you want a more multimedia-oriented phone or a business phone? What will consume less time and work out of the box? Right now, it is a very critical time for me. I have seven exams in January alone. If you are in a situation even a fraction of what i'm in....well you get the point. I previously owned the HD2 for the best of a year before "upgrading" to a Desire HD. I would say that Windows Mobile, although an extremely flexible OS that allows for many tweaks and customisations, is an extremely old and "outdated" OS...it requires a dedicated owner and a lot of time to get it the way YOU want it. Also, you will get into a habit of regularly flashing custom roms and trying out another Android build etc. I believe that it is a phone for people who wish to experiment and realise the potential of a device.
On the other hand, you have a Desire HD. I would see it as an entertainment class phone. It has the same size screen as my old HD2, but more vibrant colours. The speakers are low and softer in volume, although who ever uses phone speakers to listen to music? As students and on the train and in lessons, we use our phones to listen to OUR choice of music in privacy and as a form of time-passing and relaxation. The Desire HD is a valuable music player, as it reproduces sounds far better than my HD2, thanks to SRS and Dolby sound effect algorithms. It is quite adept at playing multimedia, and has 720p capture AND playback abilites. There is also an 8mp camera sensor, and nice applications.
Personally, I believe a Desire HD will be more suited to you. It is a newer model with more powerful/updated hardware. From what I assume, if you were to purchase a HD2, primarily you would use it for Android on a daily basis and GPS navigation within Windows? If that is so, i'd suggest going for a Desire HD. I have one, and it is flawless. Android on the HD2 will never be on the level of a Desire HD. It natively runs the OS, and the device is fully stable. Booting into Android on a HD2 and back and forth to Windows will take at least a minute either way. It's up to you in the end, but I advise you go for a Desire HD. Although it's more expensive, it's all the more appealing and filling. Thus you will have the latest device, best hardware, a smooth OS experiance and the ability to download programs from the Market at the swipe of a finger. As a side note, if you want another device recommendation, it would be a HD7. Rumours have it that it is selling for £414.00 on Amazon and less on Ebay! In the end, the choice falls to you. I hope i've clarified the situation for you
(And in case you are wondering, no I don't regret getting a Desire HD. The experiance, smoothness and perfection alone are enough to make me happy and show off my device)

I won't even look at WP7 until it matures more and see how it turns out, seems too limited too me and I don't think I will be happy with it.
I'm not a fanboy of either OS but I do feel WinMo is getting old and customizing is essential to get the most out of it. I haven't had too much interest in Android until recently when I was researching more about it and it has really grown on me.
I've been keen for a HD2 for months and months simply to try Android without completely moving to a full Android device but that was before I knew more about Android and it seems like it's a great OS. Definitely "future proof" where developers will spend time on it so new software will always be available, unlike WinMo.
Better hardware is a lot what I've been thinking about, so why not right, it would be time for once to own the best right NOW.
But anyway, I think I've been convinced and I'm gona break my own "rule" ($400 max for a phone, in the past anyway lol) and thank you all for your time to help me out, I look forward to owning a Desire HD
So first thing I should do with the phone is get S-OFF and flash Buzz 1.0.6 kernel and then update to latest version? Or get S-OFF, update and then change kernel?

I'd suggest S-off, then flashing Android Revolution HD (either latest one for android 2.2.1) or Android Revolution 1.9.3 for android 2.2...real difference is slightly faster IO speeds..but with latest rom you can't flash a custom kernel...yet! You can also try Leedroid, and try out kamma's kernel, although I have gps problems with this combination. Hope I helped!

I am Jealous of HD2

How come HD2 can have wm 6.5, android,meego and wp7?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/24/htc-hd2-can-now-dual-boot-windows-phone-7-and-android-promises/

Because it's an old device who turned into a "testmachine".

ArtieQ said:
Because it's an old device who turned into a "testmachine".
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HAHAHA
But seriously
i may be wrong but i think it has the same specs

I have put on Android/DHD ROM on my HD2 and it runs very well (my Desire still runs a non DHD ROM)

its an old device with decent hardware.
most stuff nowadays is not far off what a hd2 is anyhow - and why would you want to dual boot anyway - isnt android good enough?

Im not jealous of the HD2 wtf lol
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Just my thought, but probably cause it's great hardware with bad software. The Desire, or any other Android phone does not suffer form the ****ty software so it's less interesting to get other software running on it.

im jealous of its design. It looks better than all phones. I love analog buttons...

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Just my thought, but probably cause it's great hardware with bad software. The Desire, or any other Android phone does not suffer form the ****ty software so it's less interesting to get other software running on it.
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Yes, exactly what I was thinking. The difference between running WM6.X and Android on there is miles apart.

rouvax said:
im jealous of its design. It looks better than all phones. I love analog buttons...
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I'm too, but size is annoyed me after one year of usage...
HD2 is a miracle device, it's refresh you after every Rom flash as itself

dexteral said:
How come HD2 can have wm 6.5, android,meego and wp7?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/24/htc-hd2-can-now-dual-boot-windows-phone-7-and-android-promises/
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Buy yourself one....
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HTC-HD-2-HD2...77401?pt=AU_Mobile_Phones&hash=item3cb480cbb9

I LOVE ANDROID PHONES ESP. DESIRE BECAUSE (OF ITS SPEED, SIMPLICITY AND UI) IT DOESNT CRASH ON YOU WHILE CALLING, DOESNT RESTART RANDOMLY, ETC WHICH I HAD WITH ALMOST ALL MY WM 6.5 DEVICES WITH THE LAST BEING XPERIA X1.
BUT ON AN ANOTHER NOTE I WOULDNT MIND TESTING DIFFERENT OSs LIKE I DO ON MY VAIO OR DELL. DONT TELL ME YOU PEOPLE ARE NOT TEMPTED.
AND YES I AM CONSIDERING BUYING A USED HD2 TO JUST TEST OUT THESE OSs.
SORRY FOR THE CAPS.

IMHO I don't care One os is enough to personalize, save contacts, sms, photos etc....with two or more I guess I'd get crazy!!

I have to agree - its nice to try/trial (I have a HTC Touch HD with the SD bootable version of android) and to play with - but one OS is decent enough I think...
There was a poll on the hd2 thread a little while ago and it looked like about half of the users were using an android OS now - so as long as you have that option you're doing alright!

I don't rate the HD2, I had it for a year. It's got a crap battery life, it's big, the one single bar for all of the buttons isn't a brilliant design. I don't care much for dual booting any of the five or more OS's it can run, the Desire is a far better device and I am glad I switched.

I have both the HD2 and Desire. For a every day android device, my preference goes to the Desire. IMO the Desire is a native android device and will always run android better. Even with nand on the HD2, it still has it's problems.