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[COMP]Google N1 vs HTC Desire

So, what do you think about this battle?) Who'll win?
The only things that I don't like in N1 are: display with strange colour rendition, camera which is pink maniak (hey, like pink panther) and silent ring.
Will these thing be removed in HTC Desire?
Or maybe it's better to wait for Samsung Wave (super AMOLED display, but strange OS)

Honestly the Desire imo, fm radio, wm playback and ram/rom are just a few of the things that make it ahead of the N1 for me.

For me, the N1 is clearly the better Phone with the Noice Cancellation and way faster Software/Firmware-Support from Google.
I will never again use a Phone with Sense because of the lazy HTC-Support.
I believe the Community-Support will be much better for the N1, just look whats done so far. It was a nice Idea from Google to gave the N1 to many Android-Software-Developres for free.
And my personal Opinion: I couldnt believe my eyes when i saw a picture from the Desire at MWC. It looks much cheaper in real life than on the leaked Promo-Shots from last year. For me, the N1 looks better.

Currently have a N1, but "broke" it (still working, apart from few sensors),
with the insurance money, I will buy a Desire, since it will be available here.
No contenst unless theyll start also selling N1 straight to Finland.
HW buttons are better, going to miss notification led thou. And will cry if fastboot unlock is disabled.

i prefer Desire,because i don't like N1's track-ball....

Desire ROM on Nexus hardware
Get the best of both the worlds

It's not a case of which one is better, the desire will sell more purely because it's avaliable in store and it's avaliable on all 5 UK Networks.
People can walk into a store not knowing who HTC are and walk out with a Desire, for the Nexus you have to be specifically wanting the Nexus and then go online and pay a lot of money to get one shipped over.

Same screen as nexus?
Wonder if it will have the same screen as nexus ... if so that will suck.
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2010/02/the-nexus-ones-dirty-display-secret/

Is it common for people to remove the sense UI from android phones and run a more stock style android interface? Is this easily done with a phone like the Desire in the near future? Im on WinMo now with my Raph/Fuze and just tired of dealing with the HTC interface, hate windows too. Been using the android port for the last few months and love it. Im just stuck trying to decide between getting a nexus or the Desire whenever it will be available in the states. Plus i dont want the Sense UI, thats my main concern with the Desire.

mbomberz1 said:
Is it common for people to remove the sense UI from android phones and run a more stock style android interface? Is this easily done with a phone like the Desire in the near future? Im on WinMo now with my Raph/Fuze and just tired of dealing with the HTC interface, hate windows too. Been using the android port for the last few months and love it. Im just stuck trying to decide between getting a nexus or the Desire whenever it will be available in the states. Plus i dont want the Sense UI, thats my main concern with the Desire.
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What are your reasons for not wanting Sense UI?

I'm thinking the desire may be better quality build (minus the dust prob and hardware buttons which some may view as a plus or minus, I having lived with capacitive buttons for a year, despise them). Although I would much prefer the option to have either sense or the standard android, and as I'm not familiar with android and their homescreens, is this possible on a stock desire rom?
From what I can tell, sense is mostly just a theme along with widgets, so change the theme and then don't use the widgets right?

It's 99% Likely you'll be able to flash stock 2.1 android... A Nexus one rom, providing you root

brummiesteven said:
It's 99% Likely you'll be able to flash stock 2.1 android... A Nexus one rom, providing you root
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Yea, not sure i'd want to root, already been down that path with my blackstone. hmmmm.......

OnlinePredator said:
Yea, not sure i'd want to root, already been down that path with my blackstone. hmmmm.......
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Technically you should just be able to install Launcher2.apk and switch between Sense home and Stock Android Home. Although you'd still have all the Sense apps ie contacts etc but you'd be able to replace these too.

brummiesteven said:
What are your reasons for not wanting Sense UI?
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Well i have not actually used Sense, just some of the Roms on my Fuze that try to mimic it. It might just be the Windows Mobile underlying that makes me hate the HTC skin, im just annoyed with it all. Using the stock android on my phone, even with the odd glitches here and there due to the early port, leaves me feeling much more free and happier with my phone.

I'm thinking nexus, purely as I don't want to root my device (hehehe root my device.....)
Although I do prefer the optical trackpad and the hardware buttons.......grrr hard decisions...

For me, it will come down to which one I can get AT&T 3G on. The phones are almost identical, and I will surely root/flash it, so the stock ROM won't matter. I do think the Nexus looks better, and will probably get better support from Google.

Motoroi is looking better than both at the moment though......except of course looks lol. But with hdmi out, 720p recording and 8mp camera with xenon flash.....v.nice! Wonder if they seriously think a 550mhz chip will suffice though?

htc Desire^^ because I dont like the trackball, and I LOVE the Sense UI

OnlinePredator said:
Motoroi is looking better than both at the moment though......except of course looks lol. But with hdmi out, 720p recording and 8mp camera with xenon flash.....v.nice! Wonder if they seriously think a 550mhz chip will suffice though?
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Just looked up the Motoroi for the 1st time... looks kinda pathetic next to the Desire and Nexus..
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=2067&id2=2251&id3=2218

htc hd3 design, revealed/pictures (exclusive specs)

here it is he hd7 that a lot of people have been waiting for!
i got this from wmpoweruser & engadget enjoy, do you like the design or not?
what about the 8gb internal memory?? is this a prototype? Hope so
pictures
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/22/htc-hd7-pictured-and-specced-by-rumormongers-trying-to-outdo-one/
here are the full specs guys
http://wmpoweruser.com/exclusive-htc-hd7-full-specs-revealed-confirms-t-mobile-usa-aws-support/

And the F network at school blocks wmpoweruser because of some random reason

Essentially a retooled Supersonic/EVO. At least on the outside.

Tom Servo said:
Essentially a retooled Supersonic/EVO. At least on the outside.
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buzzer noise
a retooled hd2 but 4.3 in screen I'm loving it but if it looks the same dows it mean it has the same specs? further is this the thing we've been waiting for to run wp7 on the hd2?

I would like to see ...
real pictures of the device, specifications (committed) with dualcore snapdragon and at least 16gb flash memory ... and a link to pre-order

Looks very similar to the HD2, and this is a good thing, considering that (for me) the HD2 is one of the most beautiful phones in the market. Let's hope for good specs also.
But I think I will skip Windows Phone 7, really. I don't like the Metro UI, too minimal for my tastes and it wastes a lot of screen real-estate in the home. Also I'm not very fond of C# as a language / platform. I really prefer Java. And I don't know if I could survive with the new limitations the system gives. I have always loved Windows Mobile for its flexibility and, for me, Windows Phone 7 could be the new iPhone competitor, but not the right upgrade to Windows Mobile 6.5.
When I look at a phone operating system, I look at:
1) Flexibility.
2) Feature rich.
3) Opennes.
4) C/C++/Java support.
Actually, only Symbian^3 seems to achieve these 4 goals (with an eye to Meego). Other systems seems to be developed with the casual user in mind, Android included. I'll wait patiently for Windows Phone 8 hoping for a new level of flexibility, expecially in programming support. I don't want to be forced in using proprietary tools / platforms and, in 2011 and over, I really hope Microsoft will pay a f*ucking license for Java Embedded. Really good news from the JavaOne this year.

Kinda looks like my HD3 concept

this is not HD7
its HTC Desire HD
here's some clue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHO9A9Zf5g8

looks ok...i still prefer android over wmobile, never making the switch back!

Quick question, what phone was the hd6?

too bad
Beautiful hardware. Too bad it's so locked down, limmited and crippled by WiPhone7.

It is very much the Desire HD. By the way... I called my local O2 Dealer here in Germany. He told me that the HD7 will very likely have the specifications as the Desire HD.
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gaijin1% said:
Beautiful hardware. Too bad it's so locked down, limmited and crippled by WiPhone7.
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You're an idiot.

gaijin1% said:
Beautiful hardware. Too bad it's so locked down, limmited and crippled by WiPhone7.
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From a tweakers point of view it is and I agree. From a casual users point of view it is far from being crippled as you so dramatically put it.

accessing said:
Quick question, what phone was the hd6?
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there is no HD6, this is basically the HD3, they named it HD7 because it is running WP7, so they gave it the 7 to match

gaijin1% said:
Beautiful hardware. Too bad it's so locked down, limmited and crippled by WiPhone7.
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This guy's talking like he's been using WP7 for a long time and is actually able to compare the lockdown'endes of this operating system... What OS would you like to free this phone with Marty McFly?
The comments on here make me just shake my head sometimes...

Actually, it is indeed a real Windows Phone 7 (though it looks a lot like the HD2/Desire HD):
http://windowsphone7central.com/pages/index.php/htchd7
And it is titled the HD3 on that device, but it may be a carrier branding preference.

Jaxbot said:
Actually, it is indeed a real Windows Phone 7 (though it looks a lot like the HD2/Desire HD):
http://windowsphone7central.com/pages/index.php/htchd7
And it is titled the HD3 on that device, but it may be a carrier branding preference.
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Why did they give it the 8250 and not the newer 8255 like the Desire HD?!?!?!?!? The rumors must be wrong, giving a device with the greatest gaming capabilities an old crap 8250 when there is a much better 8255 is retarded.

Mr.Sir said:
Why did they give it the 8250 and not the newer 8255 like the Desire HD?!?!?!?!? The rumors must be wrong, giving a device with the greatest gaming capabilities an old crap 8250 when there is a much better 8255 is retarded.
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Considering that WP7 appears to run much faster than Android on comparitive hardware (thanks to not having Sense and all other sorts of HTC's UI "enhancements"), do you really need anything more powerful than a Snapdragon?
I'm more worried about the 8 GB of internal memory

lordcanti86 said:
Considering that WP7 appears to run much faster than Android on comparitive hardware (thanks to not having Sense and all other sorts of HTC's UI "enhancements"), do you really need anything more powerful than a Snapdragon?
I'm more worried about the 8 GB of internal memory
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I dont want the extraa CPU power, I want the 4x better GPU and lower power consumption.
Graphics on adroid are the same as on wp7, which means Adreno 200 is still crap compared to adreno 205.

Worth Buying?

Hello good people,
First of all, Merry Christmas,
So I'm currently looking to buy a new phone. My current phone is a i900 Omnia which is great but I really like the HD2 and DHD. I probably won't buy a new phone for a year or two so would like something which will last.
Is there any people here that had/have a HD2 and upgraded to DHD? Was it worth it? The DHD is about $250 more then HD2 here and I'm wondering if I should get it or not. I like the tweak ability of the HD2 but have never used it so I don't know how it feels whereas I tried out DHD and was very impressed. Even if I did get the HD2 I would still use Android and WinMo for GPS, unless there's something as good as iGO8 on Andoid.
Also I read some people have issues recording in 720p, freezing while recording. Is there a workaround with this issue?
I had only a little play with Android so I'm new to all this root etc...
Thank you, have a nice day

Currently, android on HD2 is not so good as DHD, and I'm sure it's not going to, so pick up your choice between winmo or android.
I myself moved from HD2 to DHD, for finger friendly UI and newly developed apps.
Another good thing is android is both dev and user friendly, no more registry tweaks or volidate cleaning! Apps gone as you want it to, also easy to get back from market.

It is not a bad phone but the battery life sux big time. You need to carry spare battery with you.
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twosix said:
It is not a bad phone but the battery life sux big time. You need to carry spare battery with you.
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I take issue with that statement, battery life on my DHD is typically around 20+ hrs. I use my device constantly with no problem about losing power.
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The battery life is ok for a phone with big display
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Thanks for replies people,
Is the touch screen much different from the HD2, as far as the sensitivity and such? When I tried the DHD I went into the messaging and tested out typing and it was just such a breeze, atm it's always a hustle without a stylus.
I'm not too worried about battery life, I won't be watching movies on the go, maybe just some gaming, web browsing and mp3 playing.
I just want a device that makes my life easier, I read that WinMo on HD2 needs ALOT of tweaks and registry changes to get running how it should be and while I am a computer whiz and love messing around with everything, I think now I just want something that works mint out of the box with great potential if I decide to try other stuff. Also apparently the SuperRAM Android builds on HD2 runs extremely well.
Are there any other good devices with 4.3" screen and 1Ghz CPU? I tried the Galaxy S but didn't like the build quality and typing seemed crap compared to DHD.
Is the DHD what I'm looking for?

Did you say Stylus?? hahahaha.. havent heard that word in a while... plus the stylus doesnt usually work on a capcitive screen..
In respect of HD2.. rightly said.. you need to do a lot of twearks,, but once done you are good to go.. or you find a good custom ROM and you are all set... With Sashmi you can install all your tweaks and the apps automatically when you flash a new ROM.. PLUS to Root (read HSPL) a WinMo phone is just too easy and straightfwd...
While going thru the rooting for DHD, goodness... i got confused.. so many times
ErOR22 said:
Thanks for replies people,
Is the touch screen much different from the HD2, as far as the sensitivity and such? When I tried the DHD I went into the messaging and tested out typing and it was just such a breeze, atm it's always a hustle without a stylus.
I'm not too worried about battery life, I won't be watching movies on the go, maybe just some gaming, web browsing and mp3 playing.
I just want a device that makes my life easier, I read that WinMo on HD2 needs ALOT of tweaks and registry changes to get running how it should be and while I am a computer whiz and love messing around with everything, I think now I just want something that works mint out of the box with great potential if I decide to try other stuff. Also apparently the SuperRAM Android builds on HD2 runs extremely well.
Are there any other good devices with 4.3" screen and 1Ghz CPU? I tried the Galaxy S but didn't like the build quality and typing seemed crap compared to DHD.
Is the DHD what I'm looking for?
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I just upgraded to dhd from hd2 last week. I had been running mdj's dhd roms for more than a month....so the upgrade was not revolutionary. It was not a necessary upgrade except that I was flashing new roms every other day....
The pros of dhd compared to hd2
Slightly better screen...colors and sharpness
Better screen sensitivity
Better battery
Maybe a bit faster and more stable??
Better cam & video
But external speaker is very soft.
if I had known...I prob would not upgrade. Now my son is running mdj gingerbread on the hd2...lots of potential...
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Yes Stylus!! LOL, Omnia has a resistive touchscreen so a stylus makes things easier. Yeah I've been doing alot of reading for HD2 and now how to flash, and I agree that it's much less confusing then rooting the DHD. The initial shock of reading how to root was overwhelming haha!
I think my only best bet now is to go and try a HD2 in a shop, but I must wait till the 5th for shops to open. If I can save 200bux for near same experience then I'm all for it. I'm a student and don't have cash just lying around lol, I mean the DHD costs more then my car!! (Had my 180sx stolen from where I study and needed something which nobody would bother stealing...POS '91 Ford Festiva)
@genting1 Will you be looking to go back to a HD2? Are you now regretting buying? Is the DHD enough?

IN that case.. an HD2 it is for you.. thats the phone I have had the longest
ErOR22 said:
Yes Stylus!! LOL, Omnia has a resistive touchscreen so a stylus makes things easier. Yeah I've been doing alot of reading for HD2 and now how to flash, and I agree that it's much less confusing then rooting the DHD. The initial shock of reading how to root was overwhelming haha!
I think my only best bet now is to go and try a HD2 in a shop, but I must wait till the 5th for shops to open. If I can save 200bux for near same experience then I'm all for it. I'm a student and don't have cash just lying around lol, I mean the DHD costs more then my car!! (Had my 180sx stolen from where I study and needed something which nobody would bother stealing...POS '91 Ford Festiva)
@genting1 Will you be looking to go back to a HD2? Are you now regretting buying? Is the DHD enough?
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Not regret...just that it did not have the WOW factor....as the hd2 and mdj did a fantastic job.
But I do miss my garmin gps on hd2 winmo
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Dude if ur a Android fan then buy a DHD
Yes HD2 is good but its good for moding, Android on it sometimes gets stuck n then u have to put a new build on it
I had hd2 for a long time n its the best phone I had
Learnt a lot about moding on HD2
Just got my DHD 2 weeks ago n no problems so far
HTC did an OTA update that fixed all the issues
Now DHD is the best phone as far as I no
Wait for few more days get some more money
Ask few of ur friends for some maybe they can help u out with ur money problem
But don't buy HD2 if ur gonna use Android for every day use
Hope this helps

To my fellow student...
I know what it's like, the ability and situation to spend money on any device you wish...an upgrade is however, necessary. Your old phone seems quite old, judging by its manufacture date and stylus interactions. What you have to remember, as a student as well as a person, is what device will serve your needs more? Do you want a more multimedia-oriented phone or a business phone? What will consume less time and work out of the box? Right now, it is a very critical time for me. I have seven exams in January alone. If you are in a situation even a fraction of what i'm in....well you get the point. I previously owned the HD2 for the best of a year before "upgrading" to a Desire HD. I would say that Windows Mobile, although an extremely flexible OS that allows for many tweaks and customisations, is an extremely old and "outdated" OS...it requires a dedicated owner and a lot of time to get it the way YOU want it. Also, you will get into a habit of regularly flashing custom roms and trying out another Android build etc. I believe that it is a phone for people who wish to experiment and realise the potential of a device.
On the other hand, you have a Desire HD. I would see it as an entertainment class phone. It has the same size screen as my old HD2, but more vibrant colours. The speakers are low and softer in volume, although who ever uses phone speakers to listen to music? As students and on the train and in lessons, we use our phones to listen to OUR choice of music in privacy and as a form of time-passing and relaxation. The Desire HD is a valuable music player, as it reproduces sounds far better than my HD2, thanks to SRS and Dolby sound effect algorithms. It is quite adept at playing multimedia, and has 720p capture AND playback abilites. There is also an 8mp camera sensor, and nice applications.
Personally, I believe a Desire HD will be more suited to you. It is a newer model with more powerful/updated hardware. From what I assume, if you were to purchase a HD2, primarily you would use it for Android on a daily basis and GPS navigation within Windows? If that is so, i'd suggest going for a Desire HD. I have one, and it is flawless. Android on the HD2 will never be on the level of a Desire HD. It natively runs the OS, and the device is fully stable. Booting into Android on a HD2 and back and forth to Windows will take at least a minute either way. It's up to you in the end, but I advise you go for a Desire HD. Although it's more expensive, it's all the more appealing and filling. Thus you will have the latest device, best hardware, a smooth OS experiance and the ability to download programs from the Market at the swipe of a finger. As a side note, if you want another device recommendation, it would be a HD7. Rumours have it that it is selling for £414.00 on Amazon and less on Ebay! In the end, the choice falls to you. I hope i've clarified the situation for you
(And in case you are wondering, no I don't regret getting a Desire HD. The experiance, smoothness and perfection alone are enough to make me happy and show off my device)

I won't even look at WP7 until it matures more and see how it turns out, seems too limited too me and I don't think I will be happy with it.
I'm not a fanboy of either OS but I do feel WinMo is getting old and customizing is essential to get the most out of it. I haven't had too much interest in Android until recently when I was researching more about it and it has really grown on me.
I've been keen for a HD2 for months and months simply to try Android without completely moving to a full Android device but that was before I knew more about Android and it seems like it's a great OS. Definitely "future proof" where developers will spend time on it so new software will always be available, unlike WinMo.
Better hardware is a lot what I've been thinking about, so why not right, it would be time for once to own the best right NOW.
But anyway, I think I've been convinced and I'm gona break my own "rule" ($400 max for a phone, in the past anyway lol) and thank you all for your time to help me out, I look forward to owning a Desire HD
So first thing I should do with the phone is get S-OFF and flash Buzz 1.0.6 kernel and then update to latest version? Or get S-OFF, update and then change kernel?

I'd suggest S-off, then flashing Android Revolution HD (either latest one for android 2.2.1) or Android Revolution 1.9.3 for android 2.2...real difference is slightly faster IO speeds..but with latest rom you can't flash a custom kernel...yet! You can also try Leedroid, and try out kamma's kernel, although I have gps problems with this combination. Hope I helped!

The Htc Sensation Rom is Simply Beautifull !!!

hi everybody .. just finished to look the video of the Htc Sensation and i hope someone will port this rom on the DHD ..
PS : sorry for my english

The DHD questions section isn't really the best place to post a thread about how beautiful a rom for a completely different device is

Lol. It's possible.. but will take some time for sure.
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https://twitter.com/htc/statuses/58287330590601216
You got to be kidding me..... How can something like 'Sense' be to heavy to run on a 1ghz processor? Most app's don't even require this.

mesut19 said:
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You got to be kidding me..... How can something like 'Sense' be to heavy to run on a 1ghz processor? Most app's don't even require this.
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Sense 3.0 will run on a 1ghz processor, its just marketing.

mlenderink said:
Sense 3.0 will run on a 1ghz processor, its just marketing.
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+1 its all about the business tactics.

we are building the sensation rom for dhd, will take some time though.....lots to do

Yup, you can follow the devs working on it in the dev thread! They have it sort of working now, although the different screen resolution seems to be a problem. However, they say it's working very smooth! No lag at all! So the 1Ghz is not a problem.
Just have to be patient for the resolution to be fixed... which seems to be a not so easy fix...

It runs fine on a DHD, I loaded the sense 3 alpha rom and it ran perfectly fine. It's currently non-functional and the resolution isn't ported yet.
+1 It's just marketing.

Maybe HTC is thinking on the battery life of their old phones.
Our 1GHz CPU has alot more work to do for the Sense 3.0 UI and they can't just shrink the already bad battery life.
That would make sense, as the Flyer is getting the new UI right? And it has the same CPU/GPU but a way bigger battery

now take a look at it again..
what is so special or surprising in this?

Could be to do with the current battery, but if you look at the improvements CoreDroid have made to their ROM, they have managed to get a much faster Sense ROM, but with much better battery, so surely HTC would be able to do this? CoreDroid claim to have better battery by 50%, if HTC managed to do the same, running a ROM made originally for a dual-core processor would result in the same battery life that we have now. Just think about it and you'll understand.
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It's HTC marketing, for people who don't know much about phones to make them upgrade.

True, but most people that get Android tend to know what they are doing, am I not correct? If you have never used Android before, and your phones due an upgrade, surely you would go for an iPhone, due to the ease of use and the general market share the iPhone has. And even if you did go for a top spec Android phone such as the Desire HD, why, just a few months after you have bought it, would you go out and buy a new phone just because if a software update and a few internal changes? As far as I'm concerned, if it is HTC using ways of Marketing, then they will be loosing me as a customer. I've gone from a Desire to a Desire HD on a contract upgrade, I only chose the Desire HD due to the updated sense, and that's gods honest truth, and now, 5 months later, I'm being told that my phones spec doesn't match up to that required of the new update, despite the fact that to-date the DhD is the most powerfules phone on sale in the UK. HTC's gonna loose customers if they keep showing off shiny new things, and not giving it to so-called 'respected customers'.
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True, but most people that get Android tend to know what they are doing, am I not correct? If you have never used Android before, and your phones due an upgrade, surely you would go for an iPhone, due to the ease of use and the general market share the iPhone has. And even if you did go for a top spec Android phone such as the Desire HD, why, just a few months after you have bought it, would you go out and buy a new phone just because if a software update and a few internal changes? As far as I'm concerned, if it is HTC using ways of Marketing, then they will be loosing me as a customer. I've gone from a Desire to a Desire HD on a contract upgrade, I only chose the Desire HD due to the updated sense, and that's gods honest truth, and now, 5 months later, I'm being told that my phones spec doesn't match up to that required of the new update, despite the fact that to-date the DhD is the most powerfules phone on sale in the UK. HTC's gonna loose customers if they keep showing off shiny new things, and not giving it to so-called 'respected customers'.
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Yeah I know what you mean, but 5 months is a long time in the technology world. Their marketing will try to convince anybody to upgrade since old stuff is not "good enough".
Desire HD is a SICK phone, I don't really see why to upgrade from it and that's maybe what they are tying to achieve with this marketing?
As you've said, noobs don't usually buy an android and if they do they probably go back to a iphone, so who are they trying to fool?

ErOR22 said:
Yeah I know what you mean, but 5 months is a long time in the technology world. Their marketing will try to convince anybody to upgrade since old stuff is not "good enough".
Desire HD is a SICK phone, I don't really see why to upgrade from it and that's maybe what they are tying to achieve with this marketing?
As you've said, noobs don't usually buy an android and if they do they probably go back to a iphone, so who are they trying to fool?
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Thanks for helping confirm what I put, HTC are fooling nobody because I doubt a lot of people are going to get the Sensation despite the beautiful UI. W have already proven it can work on the Desire HD, and your right it is a sick phone! I reckon HTC will eventually release the full 3.0 update, due to demand, but it will be well after the Sensation release.

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POKER FACE..... really? it´s great!!!!! and thank´s of course gekrem!!!
pd: i think that there´s no problem with the processor we can do OVERCLOCK and set up performance!!!! only a little condition... bad battery drain..

Desire HD ->Sensation/SGII

I'm concerned... My DHD is a super smartphone, but after all it's just a device that is getting "old".
I can't really say what will my next phone be. Sensation? GalaxySII?
The Sensation has good specs(although I played for a whole day with one, and it didn't seemed so fast), but lacks the beauty of the DHD.
SGS2 definitely has power on his side, and a amazing screen. But again, it's plastic body is hideos and overall seems like a larger Iphone.
So please tell me... what should I be looking at? I don't dig Sony Ericsson crapphones, nor other semimanufacturers like Motorola, LG, Huaweii or God knows what.

I guess an important question is, what do you need it for? That should inform your decision. (For me, I've never really seen the point in a dual-core phone, as I've never played a game on a phone and never will.)

Sensation and SGII getting old too - the next generation was in many previews, so wait for the future updates with better sound and displays and so on... If you want an actual smartphone, you have to buy one every two month. Dual and Quad Core are in all minds. They give you the chance for recording FULL HD Videos, navigate faster than before, play games with actual upcoming graphicchips...you must know, what you prefer. At this time the DHD has more abilities than the new HTC devices, because their resolutions are not supported by all apps. Also there are more specific roms and themes.

What do I need it for? What do you need it for? I use it at it's full potential, with games, various aps, recording, browsing, teethering etc etc.
Whoever buys a smartphone to use it a simple phone is not a normal person(no offence ).
Neo, your opinion is to wait for now. Probably you're right

I'll be very honest...I wouldn't be looking anywhere. Yes, the newer phones are more powerful, but trust me, if you upgrade, you aren't actually getting anything more. Dual core processors still aren't being utilised fully yet. The Sensation is literally nothing over a DHD with an official Sense 3.0 ROM, it's all very much the same.
To be honest, you've answered the question yourself. Stick with the DHD, you'll be happiest that way!

lambomanx1 said:
I'll be very honest...I wouldn't be looking anywhere. Yes, the newer phones are more powerful, but trust me, if you upgrade, you aren't actually getting anything more. Dual core processors still aren't being utilised fully yet. The Sensation is literally nothing over a DHD with an official Sense 3.0 ROM, it's all very much the same.
To be honest, you've answered the question yourself. Stick with the DHD, you'll be happiest that way!
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Second that motion!
I use my Desire HD with Sense 3.5 (RCMix3D Bliss ROM) and it performs very well. Once the bluetooth problem has been fixed, Capychimp will have an awesome ROM for us all...

lambomanx1 said:
Stick with the DHD, you'll be happiest that way!
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I guess that's what I've wanted to hear from the beginning.

pupilov said:
I guess that's what I've wanted to hear from the beginning.
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I know what you mean. I got my DHD when the dual core phones were coming out, on purpose; I knew it was going to be cheaper, and I knew I wasn't loosing out much. I rooted from the very start, then worried that I had made the wrong decision when the SGS2 and Sensation came out...looking at everything now though, it's pretty clear I haven't

ive been on my dhd 4 a yr now nd havent been fascinated by any of the recent phones.....although i still use stock roms.....i love the sense interface so sammy is definitely out of the question. all dual cores as i have been readng havent really been utilized yet...im eagerly anticipating sense 3.5 update....it would b a new experience smhow. other than that i guess the only phone i wish was there is an android htc portrait slider...u know smthng like the dell venue pro for WP. Anyone thnks were gettng smthng like that anytime from htc?

Stick with DHD...because it same man...if ur next phone is sensation/sgs2...it will be outdated to...maybe will be a quad core cpu maybe...the technology in growing fast...haha
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Neo, your opinion is to wait for now. Probably you're right
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You can see it in my signature.. i was often unable to wait, because i wanted to test all new systems...at least the WP7 UI, before i bought my DHD. I think, WP7 style is a modern way to operate with a smartphone, but today no abilities to have an individual style. Android UI is a new form of windows mobile, not really futuristic, but i can change all i want. On the DHD it´s nearly perfect at this time.
Maybe in one year i will use again a WP7 phone, because i like many of it´s features, especially the menus inside and the live tiles (with another style). But i hope, that google won´t sleep all the time and works also on new interfaces. The last updates remind me to the times, when windows mobile was updated. I miss the really impressive changes... see, what will come in the next years.

I would wait if i were you.... even the so called dual core are being updated. Word on the street is that dual core 1.2-1.5 GHz should be the standard before the end of the year....HTC have some nice lineup comming soon

I took your advises seriously. Me and my DHD are friends for almost a year now, so it has a few scratches and dents. So, in order to complete our "new" friendship, I send it back to HTC for a complete makeover(new housing and a internal cleaning ).
Thank you guys!