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Xperia X10i or HTC Desire

Hello
First sorry if this is in the wrong forum, I'm new to smartphones and Android and have a bit of a dilema!
I have an Xperia X10i and am supposed to be exchanging it for a HTC Desire next week, for reasons I will go into, but my big question first is am I making the right choice.
I got out my X10 yesterday after another delay with getting the HTC and after finding some UI changes and other apps on these awesome forums, I am starting to like the X10 more.
Sure the battery lasts about 9 hours but I'm looking into fixes, other things I didn't enjoy, like the UI I have changed with the awesome ADW Launcher.
Now the main reason I wanted to change the phone was, and this is going to sound really childish and stupid, but was for multitouch, well that and the newer version of android, which I think the X10 will get eventually, however for some reason I feel I need multitouch?
When getting a smartphone I looked forward to playing all my old Snes Roms etc on the way to work on the train, which is nigh on impossible to do properly without multitouch.
I installed the Wiimotion? app to use a Wii mote on my X10 which is awesome but won't help when I'm on the train.
Now I know that's a bit of a frivilous reason but I dunno, seeing all my work colleague pinch and zoom and playing Monkey Island and Conta got me jealous.
I haven't used a Desire but had a quick go of a mates Legend and wasn't blown away or anything. I actually think I prefer the look/style of my X10, but I still like the Desire, I know the camera's better on the X10 but that's pretty much it isn't it?
So there is my question really, should I change my X10 for a Desire, mainly for the updated Android and Multitouch!
I've posted this in X10 and Desire forums, again sorry if thats a no-no.

I bought my desire a couple of weeks ago now, and when deciding what to buy i was posed with the same question, x10 or desire, at first i was drawn to the x10, i liked it looks and the ui looked cool to, but after comparing the stats at gsm arena it was clear the the better fone was the desire, for starters the amoled screen isnt only better than the xperias lcd but it aparantly also uses less battery, obviously the other thing was multi touch, at this level of technology multi touch should be as standard in all handsets and i think sony have shot themselves in the foot there, also the desire has more ram, and ofcourse sence witch is easly the best launcher on android, i can easly get 24 hrs plus battery out of my desire with moderate usage

Cheers dude yea I made the mistake of asuming multitouch was as standard, I've heard differing opinions on the screen apparently the X10 is better in sunlight? But the Desire has much more colours?

rakber said:
Cheers dude yea I made the mistake of asuming multitouch was as standard, I've heard differing opinions on the screen apparently the X10 is better in sunlight? But the Desire has much more colours?
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to be hones pal, my hero has a standard lcd and its no better in sunlight than my desire, the desires screen reflects the sun alot more tho so watch out for sunglare as for colours, the desire has 16 million and the xperia has 64 thousand lol you can compare full phone specs ere http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3077&idPhone2=2964

Xperia only has 64 thousand colours due to the version of Android it is running...it will be better with an upgrade to 2.1/2.2. However multi touch will never find it's way onto the x10.
I love my Desire and you can use ADW on it too. Plus i like having multi touch so i can press B to run on Pokemon... lol.

"i like having multi touch so i can press B to run on Pokemon... lol."
Exactly dude, lol, it may be a little thing for some people, but I don't know if I can really live without it!
And cheers for the link AndroHero

get the desire! its awesome!

SiL3nTKiLL said:
get the desire! its awesome!
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Agreed!!

Don't get the X10 , i haven't tested it myself but i have only heard bad things about it from people i know.
HTC Desire = Great phone ( Best phone i have ever had )

Cheers guys, yea hopefully I can get the Desire on Wed, just waiting for delivery, hopefully there not jerking me around.

if I make choice again i take Desire
compare with X10 ,Desire is much much better in all specification

I've heard nothing but bad things about SE's smartphones, not heard one good review. Their old dumphones used to be amazing though =D

I've had my X10 since 31th of March and I managed to withdraw the purchase and the first thing I did was buy the Desire. I think that the X10 is prettier but the UI isn't really that nice anymore although I'm also having troubles with the Sense atm.
But I actually think that the Desire is a better phone and I'm happy I changed.

Get a HTC desire much better phone in every aspect.. Apart from maybe the camera. The x10i will most likely never get froyo but the htc desire will (even if we have to wait a while)
Cheers

I wanted a x10 at first too, but when they announced it wouldn't have multi touch I was kinda shocked. Few days went by and more confirmations about no multitouch were coming in so that's when I dropped my (to be purchased) X10.
Now I think the X10 is ugly and fat. UI I liked before became too blue. And no information about 2.2.
Desire seems more future proof to me.
-android 2.2
-Amoled
-More Ram
- (not sure about this) More users
I don't see x10 getting any update aside from the 2.1 update which it should have from the start....
I wanted the multi touch for the games too

Just an update for those in the same predicament I was.
I (finally) got the HTC Desire on Friday and love it already,
it's feels much more fluid than the X10,
am loving the multitouch, can finally play Mario Kart and Parodious on the train!
The camera feels pretty decent, haven't used it much, but I never really do,
Everything just seems slightly easier, but I put that down to HTC being more experienced than SE with smartphones,
which is a shame because I honestly think I prefer the actual look of the X10, it's screen seemed eyecatching for some reason, and it is still a bloody good phone even with it's limitations.
The Desires only fault for me is it looks to much like an iPhone/etc, other than that great phone.
So when SE have a couple more smartphones under the belt I'll give them another look
but for now I'm happy with my Desire.
Thanks for all the help guys!
P.S. Any recommendatons for vital/usefull apps would be much appreciated. Thanks again guys.

Hi sorry about this guys but I was wondering is there any way to save space with the HTC Desire as I'm quickly filling it up with apps
Can I save apps to the SD without rooting it or is there any other workaround/tip?
Thanks and sorry guys.

desire or xperia x10 or samsung galaxy S?

I`m a bit confused right now ... i really loved the HTC evo 4G but since i live in India ... i cant get my hands on that...
The only good phones i am left with are desire , xperia x10 or samsung galaxy
Pls let me know which one should i go for
And i wanted to know how are the games in desire .. are they even comparable to iphone games??... and can it be jailbreaked like the iphone????

heres a youtube vid of nova on the desire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vn2DuPeE-E

Avoid the Xperia X10, mainly due to the terrible terrible battery life and the fact it's still running Android 1.6, as well has having much lower performance than the Desire and Nexus One which use almost identical internals.
As for 'jailbreaking', in Android circles the equivalent is known as 'rooting' to enable you to install all the awesome custom firmwares available on this forum to enable new features, speed up your device or even get the latest versions of Android before they're even released.
Games-wise, there is a decent selection, but truthfully the iPhone is the king of mobile gaming. I haven't found this to be a problem however, as I realised after owning an iPod Touch before my android phone that with most games I'll play them for a few minutes when I download them and then never really touch them again. I use music, video, email, social networking and general internet browsing far more.
As for Desire vs Galaxy S...kind of hard to choose.
Galaxy S Pros and Cons:
+ Large, amazing Super AMOLED screen
+ Most powerful Android device out, especially it's GPU (for 3D games)
+ DivX video support
+ Video-out if you want to connect it to a screen
+ Reportedly great sound quality for headphones
+ Battery life better than most other high-end Android phones
- The phone itself looks like a cheap iPhone ripoff (why Samsung why?!)
- Samsung use their 'TouchWiz' interface on top of Android which looks kind of ugly and adds little
- Samsung don't have a good track record with updates...they've confirmed Froyo but no word on whether it'll ever get anything above that
- Reportedly all custom roms will need to be based off Samsung's official roms, so won't have as large a variety as HTC phones
- Apparently many users have had GPS problems
HTC Desire Pros and Cons:
+ Huge variety of custom roms
+ Similarity with Nexus One means since Nexus One gets updates first, most can be quickly ported to Desire
+ HTC Sense interface on top of Android looks great and improves usability (especially the widgets)
+ HTC's default apps for mail, weather, etc are extremely well designed
+ Will most likely be able to run Android 3.0 (Gingerbread) ported from the Nexus One once it's released
+ Very good build quality and nicer-looking hardware
- Battery life not as good
- Smaller screen that's regular AMOLED rather than Samsung's new variety
- Not as powerful as Galaxy S
Hope that helps! I'm currently in the middle of deciding between the Desire and Galaxy S myself, so done a fair bit of research and tried both out.

AXIS of Reality said:
- Not as powerful as Galaxy S
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as you can see my quadrant score says diffrent

That would be because you're running Froyo, which the Galaxy S has been confirmed to be receiving later this year. =P
The more apt comparison is lower on that graph showing the 2.1 Desire and Nexus One far lower than the 2.1 Galaxy S.

well thanks for that .. i am leaning towards htc desire more now ... just to confirm are there any better andriod phones in the market which are gsm and available outside US ??

AndroHero said:
as you can see my quadrant score says diffrent
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Which battery meter are you using?

vinayendra: since you mentioned only games in your post, my advice to you is to avoid android platform and go with Iphone if games are your priority...
If you still need to choose between these 3 phones, Galaxy would be your choice, cause it's better GPU will be advantage with games

I cant speak for the galaxy S but having used both desire and the xperia the desire wins hands down. The xperia is really laggy and the old version of android is a deal breaker. Once sony pull their fingers out and update the xperia it might be a different story but I dont think we will see that for a few more months yet
the only advantage the xperia has is the large internal apps storage, you dont need to root it if your wanting loads of apps unlike the desire

AndroHero said:
heres a youtube vid of nova on the desire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vn2DuPeE-E
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id love to know how to get that game running on my desire, I had it for my palm pre and loved it but the desire just gives me a black screen then it closes

djoni1980 said:
vinayendra: since you mentioned only games in your post, my advice to you is to avoid android platform and go with Iphone if games are your priority...
If you still need to choose between these 3 phones, Galaxy would be your choice, cause it's better GPU will be advantage with games
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Games or not my priority .. i already have a ipod touch ... for me the main things are cool apps maybe even GPS , email and very good user interface ... i have a htc 3G touch ... it really sucks ...after having that i had decided not to go for HTC again ... But i cant buy iphone 4 as it takes a year to come to my country ... and i heard andriod phones are awesome ... so going back to HTC
So anyone owns a desire .. plz tell the pros and cons of desire which u felt while using

Take the desire you wont regret it.and someone already mentiond pros & cons on page 1.
You only have to choose
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

AXIS of Reality said:
That would be because you're running Froyo, which the Galaxy S has been confirmed to be receiving later this year. =P
The more apt comparison is lower on that graph showing the 2.1 Desire and Nexus One far lower than the 2.1 Galaxy S.
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can you not read? it clearly says samsung galaxy s 2.2 on the benchmark

pms said:
Which battery meter are you using?
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the one that comes with the expresso theme for 2.2 sence roms

AndroHero said:
can you not read? it clearly says samsung galaxy s 2.2 on the benchmark
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LOL, actually it says <2.2, which is 2.1

djoni1980 said:
LOL, actually it says <2.2, which is 2.1
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oh yeah so it does lol

If you have access to those phones in India go and try them out in person because you won't have a clue on what everyone is going on about except for prior experience on your old Touch.
An Android phone is perfect if you live your online life through Google, if you don't I suggest you move.
An iPhone is known for simplicity and just working until you somehow manage to get yourself into the zoom feature and you're screwed unless you know the zoom out function. These high end phones are true powerhouses in pocket computing and are for more than showing off to your mates that you have a cool phone. If that's all you're going to do, you deserve an iPhone. If you're rolling up your sleeves and learning how to individualise yourself from every other Android user out there then you will quickly learn about live wallpapers, widgets, shortcuts and button combinations. Go further than that and its roms, themes, radios, adb commands so on and so forth.
Know what you want and shop according to it. One of these phones will tick most if not all of your needs and wants. Or something in the near future will. Between the 2 phones, out of the box you are looking at a difference of interface more than anything else. Really suggest you go try them out.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Jabbafat23 said:
If you have access to those phones in India go and try them out in person because you won't have a clue on what everyone is going on about except for prior experience on your old Touch.
An Android phone is perfect if you live your online life through Google, if you don't I suggest you move.
An iPhone is known for simplicity and just working until you somehow manage to get yourself into the zoom feature and you're screwed unless you know the zoom out function. These high end phones are true powerhouses in pocket computing and are for more than showing off to your mates that you have a cool phone. If that's all you're going to do, you deserve an iPhone. If you're rolling up your sleeves and learning how to individualise yourself from every other Android user out there then you will quickly learn about live wallpapers, widgets, shortcuts and button combinations. Go further than that and its roms, themes, radios, adb commands so on and so forth.
Know what you want and shop according to it. One of these phones will tick most if not all of your needs and wants. Or something in the near future will. Between the 2 phones, out of the box you are looking at a difference of interface more than anything else. Really suggest you go try them out.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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I'd mostly agree with that.
Android phones really are 'enthusiast' phones, in the sense that you get out of them what you put in. For example, customising it to work exactly how you want and look how you want it to look.
The iPhone is made as a very controlled system, so you have only the absolute minimum freedom (ie: change your wallpaper or order of icons). This is ideal for many people who want something that just 'works' and has been tuned to be an intuitive experience for the majority of people.
Android is based around making your phone uniquely yours, such as through the use of the homescreens to fill with whatever you want (widgets, controls, shortcuts, folders, etc). What this means is it requires more time and attention than an iPhone, but the end result is a phone and way of working that is of your own design.
Think of it like Lego:
- the iPhone is where you follow the instructions and get what is shown in the picture on the box (which can annoy people who want to do their own thing).
- Android is where you are given a pile of lego bricks to build whatever you want, so it's far more personalised even if it's not as polished as the iPhone (which can confuse or put of people who prefer a guiding hand and it to be done for them)
I'm happy to sacrifice some polish in the interface for the chance to really make my phone mine, but there are many who feel the other way. That's why it's great we have the oppurtunity to choose between Android and iOS (and soon Windows Phone 7, which seems like a halfway point between the two).

thanks for all that ... Now i am convinced to go for a desire which i will buy sometime this week
i have a small doubt ( a n00b one) .. whats the use of "rooting" and installing ROM`s???.. is it the same as "jailbreaking" in iphone where i can install paid apps and games for free and play with my looks ?? ... or is there anyother use??

i have HTC Desire which i bough from a friend in England, (i live in Seattle) and absolutely love it. My co-worker has Tmobile Samsung Vibrant. Ill give my impressions and quick pros and cons, i may sound little bias but here it is.
Samsung Galaxy Pros
Large SuperAMOLED screen, true 800x480 res, multitouch (Which, while is brighter than the Desire, not that much better, almost cant tell the difference.)
Better battery life, Galaxy also comes with 1500 mAh battery whereas Desire come with 1400 mAh ( again only one day of test with moderate use)
Better GPU
16 Gb of internal storage (which is a huge plus)
720p @30 frames video capture (which also is possible on the Desire with a custom ROM)
Cons
Built quality is extremely cheap, back is shiny plastic which is prone to scratches
Has ugly iphone 3GS style bezel around the screen
No camera flash (this one is a huge let down by Samsung which is beyond any comprehension)
Ugly UI which is a blatant iOS rip off (this one may be strictly preferential depending if you like iOS look or not)
Samsungs proven lack of support track record
Not clear whether gonna have large dev support on XDA
External speaker is horrible, tiny sound (Desire is the same)
That is all i can think of at the moment
Desire Cons
Uses old Clear pad 2000 touch panel which lacks true multitouch support or supports it in a broken way (you can google Nexus one touch screen problems, there is 70 pages plus thread about it)
Uses Cheap Pentile pixel arrangement, which some argue is better for media but horrible if ou spend most of the time reading text on your device. ( you can google Pentile on Nexus One, Anandtech.com has very informative article about this)
Eternal speaker is horrible, sound is tiny and quite
video capture is crap
When using on low brightness, screen has pink hue
Battery life is mediocre
Pros
Built quality is way better than Galaxy, also looks sophisticated compared to Galaxy
Camera flash
Huge support from XDA developers since it is almost identical to Nexus One
Runs Sense, although i equally hate Sense, it is a lot better that TouchWiz
Has hardware buttons (this one is a deal breaker for me as Galaxy touch sensitive buttons are unresponsive at times and generally suck)
AMOLED is almost as good as Galaxy's ( aside from cheap ass touch panel that HTC used on Desire and Nexus One, why HTC why)
That is all i can think of at the moment. I am eligible for an upgrade with Tmobile, but i think ill keep the Desire. Just better phone aside from crappy screen. Hope this helps

HTC Desire. Still the best around?

With all the new versions of the Desire becoming available is the original Desire still the best?
I love my desire and I've had it for about 10 months or so. The wife's contract is due for renewal soon and she does seems to like my HTC desire.
It would be her first smart phone.
I'm very pleased with mine. I am currently running an older LeeDroid ROM (Soon to be upgraded with his latest to be released version).
Would the original Desire still cut the mustard for the next 18 months or so?

Desire has been around for around 1 Year and till today it is one of the top phones. I own a Desire myself and have to say it's a great phone till today.
There's quite alot of phones coming out but nothing amazing has come out yet.
Not many people like the new Desire S because it's not that different from the standard Desire.Just a tiny bit different in memory.
Desire HD is quite big and battery life is appaling.
Desire Z quite heavy.
All the new versions aren't that amazing that would make me jump to them instead of staying with my Original Desire.
I've heard good things about the samsung galaxy S 2 which is coming out in March.If you want to consider that.

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There's quite alot of phones coming out but nothing amazing has come out yet.
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True that - I was expecting dual-core HTCs early this year.
The way I see it, the Desire would probably get left behind by HTC in the following 3 or 4 months (right after we get the official Gingerbread in April) to make room for their newer (dual-core?) models. After that? Well, it's up to us to keep it "alive and kicking" with new ROMs and crazy experimental stuff.

I think for new people the Desire S is probably a good choice... enough internal memory and a good size.
I think this is the point of the S... to be something to bring new people in. I love the desire original and wouldn't upgrade to an S
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I think it is one of the best phones around still around.
I like the Desire S, think it looks quite nice, but not enough internal differences to justify an upgrade just yet.
I don't really like the Desire HD. Much too large to use with just one hand. Desire Z is a bit heavy, but I guess it caters for the people who prefer a physical keyboard.
I've still got about 14 months left with my Desire, so nearly 18 months, and I'm more than sure it'll be just fine for that amount of time.

what phone does your wife have at the moment?
I assume not a Desire - Desire / Desire S would make sense unless she wanted a bigger screen (Desire HD)
for me - like Jigswa said - the DHD is too big personally...
Oh also - unless you want rooting and custom roms and stuff - a DS would make sense (over the Desire Original) if you can hold out for it...
The only reason I say it is because its likely to be around for longer than the Desire original from an official capacity...

Lothaen said:
what phone does your wife have at the moment?
I assume not a Desire - Desire / Desire S would make sense unless she wanted a bigger screen (Desire HD)
for me - like Jigswa said - the DHD is too big personally...
Oh also - unless you want rooting and custom roms and stuff - a DS would make sense (over the Desire Original) if you can hold out for it...
The only reason I say it is because its likely to be around for longer than the Desire original from an official capacity...
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She's currently got a Nokia 6700 I think. Nothing fancy. But with her love of Facebook and Angry Birds she want's to now get a smart phone. Oh and something she can use for mobile broadband i.e. tethering.
A colleague of mine has just got a Galaxy S and to me it seemed a bit lightweight and felt plasticy.
I'm, trying to get her a decent 18 month contract. I've seen a few good little deals.
She probably won't want exactly the same phone as me. So maybe a Desire S would be the better option.

Had 2 iPhones before finally taking the plunge into Android. Had my eye on the Desire for awhile and thank god I finally bought it. Running the Oxygen Gingerbread rom ATM.. easiest thing in the world to get running. Had it for about 8 months now too but I won't be upgrading atleast until dual-core htc's.

I know exactly where you are coming from with the Galaxy S feeling light and plasticy - the Desire feels more substantial - as long as you don't want a super light phone!
Also I felt the UI was clunky and too iPhone-esque
the DHD felt heavier than the Desire too.
Desire S will fix any issues with installing stuff to the phone too by having the same storage space as the DHD - it will have Gingerbread out the box, and a nice clean Sense UI win win all round.
Desire S seems a perfect phone for people who don't have Android already IMO!

Apart from weak GPU, weak multi-touch in games, and lack of native DIVX support, I think Desire is still a good phone if those are not important too you. The battery and the internal memory are not issues for me anymore with custom ROMS and HBOOT.

HTC Desire Is 5x better then S(boottime, apps launchtime..so many bugs) i realy like my Desire Using 8 months
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Not many people like the new Desire S because it's not that different from the standard Desire.Just a tiny bit different in memory.
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It is simply amazing how many people claim this, someone would get under impression it is true...
Desire S has moar internal memory, moar ram, packs 2nd generation Qualcomm cpus which rectify the first gen shortcomings, and on top of that, has better battery. Although it is not in the upgrade path for the original Desire owners, it is an upgrade nevertheless and excellent choice for the new users. You are trashing a device with superb specifications b4 it even went retail.
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Desire HD is quite big and battery life is appaling.
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I agree, a colleague of mine has it. My fist is of enough size to comfortably use the biggest mices, yet I can't reach the opposite end of the screen with my thumb
Battery is roughly equal to the original Desire, both devices out of the box.
The biggest issue in my opinion is that they stuffed equal resolution on 0.6" bigger screen. Greater dot pitch usually means lower quality, I haven't used it enough to be 100% sure though.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

The original Desire still has a lot of processing grunt compared to newer phones. Nothing is really better than it so to speak, a few phones are better at some things and worse at other but generally it's pretty level and just comes down to prefferance on a few features.
It'll be a sad day when I do retire my Desire its served me well so far and has at least a year left in it.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Premium App

Using my desire over 10 months now. I'm still satisfied with it's performance.
It 's my first htc phone.
I've had some doubts about build quality before, because that was told to me.
I can say that i'm suprised. Beeing always in my pocket without case or screen protection, it is still looking like new.
It is still fast en reliable.
If i would by a new phone, would be desire again or maybe thinking about desire S.

my fist android
From a long line of old symbian nokias i finally decided to make a hole in my budget and to get a new phone. As i was keeping a close eye on Android and the HTC Desire for some time i got that phone.
It was a very good phone with it's stock froyo, and know it's an excellent phone with the Oxygen rom.
As some of the other members say, i do not see any good reason to upgrade maybe until dual-core HTC's come out.

The normal Desire is still up-to-date. But when the Desire S will be out there in the wild it will be the better one. Still that quite compact design, whithout the week points the original archives (internal mem, multitouch).
The cost-benefit analysis will show up that the older Desire will still be ok for a long time even bought new.

I bought my desire 3 months ago, and the only thing that annoys me is the 2-point touchscreen... Multi-touch is a must to a device like this but we can't have everything so apart from that is the best phone i've ever had ! Desire S is cool but in my opinion at the moment we're between a generation change so next stop is dual core, and desire s is single core. I will change my phone next year probably to a htc dual-core that will be announced this year.
My good old desire never lets me down !

I agree with everyone here. It has been an amazing phone. Its handled mass rom fllashhing and crazy overclocking and its handled it brilliantly. Had no problems with it at all. Rather have this than a Nexus, but I would like a DHD because the bigger screen.
I got a Galaxy Tab 4 months ago and since then my Desire has been neglected as it doesn't compete with the Tab. Recently got back into using it and I've realised why I fell in love with it.
Sent from zombie infested Gingerbread.

I suggest you stick around with the HTC Desire till the end of the year or whenver Dual Core phones are released. The new models don't offer much of an advantage and I heard the HTC Desire HD has worst voice quality sound than the Desire....... The voice quality sound on the Desire is pretty terrible so I don't know how HTC managed to make it even worst with the Desire HD.

hopefully it will still work
I am not one for changing my phone when something new comes out and unless something breaks it will have to last me 2 years. The worry I have is will the microusb connecter last that long. Supposedly is it designed for up to 10,000 cycles of insertion but my niece has some sort of nokia with this connecter and its a struggle after 14 months to get it to charge (I have had to give her my htc lead and charger as it is the only one that works).
I don't like capitative keys, I had the ipod that had them and it was god awful to use , too sensitive. So the desire s is a step back from my pov
The desire is a nice phone and does me very well thanks

[Q] Do you recommend buying Desire ?!

Hi all
Do you recommend buying Desire ?!
I tried Android at Wildfire and found it so good and amazing so i sold it and want to get a new more powerful device
It costs around 420~500 USD in my country - Egypt and the devices in that range is New Galaxy Ace or used Galaxy S and i don't like both
already compared it to Desire S and couldn't find any huge different which will cost me more 100 USD !!!
so do you recommend buying HTC Desire ? and is it true it will updated to New Sense same one in Desire S ???!!!

Desire S has the double of space (1.1 GB internal memory) compared to the normal Desire
Desire will never get sense 3.0
But if u can spend a bit more or found a cheap offer, i'll go for the samsung galaxy s 2, once buyed it u can stay with it for 2-3 years without need to change phone (the same is not true for the desire s in this moment, because it's already "old")
Just my opinion if you going to buy a new phone, anyway i will stay with an other year or more with my desire (got it in april 2010) before buy an other top phone, this is my personal philosophy

I just recently bought a used Desire for about $200 CAD and I love it.
My voice plan with Rogers comes to like 22$ and I have no desire to add a $25 data plan to get $50/month plan to get a phone subsidized from them.
I just the App2SD with a 1GB ext4 partition on my SD card to get around the limited space the phone has.

andQlimax said:
Desire S has the double of space (1.1 GB internal memory) compared to the normal Desire
Desire will never get sense 3.0
But if u can spend a bit more or found a cheap offer, i'll go for the samsung galaxy s 2, once buyed it u can stay with it for 2-3 years without need to change phone (the same is not true for the desire s in this moment, because it's already "old")
Just my opinion if you going to buy a new phone, anyway i will stay with an other year or more with my desire (got it in april 2010) before buy an other top phone, this is my personal philosophy
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Galaxy S II will cost me about 800$ and this is too much for phone , buying i7+6GB laptop will be better idea
i think that i already saw costume roms for Desire with sense 3 and circle lock screen or i am wrong ??!!
and i am still noob at Android but i thing with root i can add more extra space for phone to install apps to it exactly like installing them to phone memory and it's so easy to get 8 or 16 GB SD Card ???
and as you said Desire S seems to be old and same as Desire so i think spending more money on it will not be a good idea

What about Desire HD , If i managed to get it with good deal do you recommend it ?
will it be updated to new Sense the one in Sensation officially or also will be custom rom ?

MohamedYousri said:
What about Desire HD , If i managed to get it with good deal do you recommend it ?
will it be updated to new Sense the one in Sensation officially or also will be custom rom ?
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DHD is a fair bit better and still has some decent rom support. It will probably get the sense update, so if you can't really find a newer phone i'd say yeah, go for it.

i'm also pretty much new with android and htc so let me give you some n00b insight...
i've owned Desire for 3 months and i got used to it by now. it can give you both joy and anger. it depends on how you use it. if you live it on stock ROM it'll work smooth and you can find tips and tricks how to make it somewhat better without rooting and flashing roms: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653310
if you decide to root and flash custom ROMs then you can get even better device with many tweaks already built-in new software. for example you can flash Desire HD rom and therefore don't have to actually buy DHD (hardware is not that much different IMHO). now i'm running InsertCoin Gingerbread based rom which hasn't even been released for Desire yet, with many Sense 3.0 goodies which probably won't be officially included in GB update at all. as a downside, these roms can have some bugs, but are overall better than stock. just take a look into some rom development topics...
Desire has it's flaws but overall i'm waaay satisfied... although it's now an old rag D) it still kicks many "smartphone" butts out there. i came from nokia x6 and now i wonder why did i go there in a first place...
anyway, i think you can't go wrong with it. you can of course buy DHD for somewhat better hardware or spare some more money for sensation, but if you're unviling to do so, Desire is still great choice...just my 2 cents!! cheers, i hope this helps a bit!

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DHD is a fair bit better and still has some decent rom support. It will probably get the sense update, so if you can't really find a newer phone i'd say yeah, go for it.
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The problem is getting SGSII or Sensation that thier prices are too high now and sooner their prices will be lower than now so i don't think it's good idea to get 2 months old phone right now ,,,
i liked HTC Sense a lot so i am choosing from HTC not Samsung also HTC have bigger support from developers than Samsung as i can see
but i read that it's sound is low and LCD Screen not that good ,, is this true ?

heraSK said:
i'm also pretty much new with android and htc so let me give you some n00b insight...
i've owned Desire for 3 months and i got used to it by now. it can give you both joy and anger. it depends on how you use it. if you live it on stock ROM it'll work smooth and you can find tips and tricks how to make it somewhat better without rooting and flashing roms: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653310
if you decide to root and flash custom ROMs then you can get even better device with many tweaks already built-in new software. for example you can flash Desire HD rom and therefore don't have to actually buy DHD (hardware is not that much different IMHO). now i'm running InsertCoin Gingerbread based rom which hasn't even been released for Desire yet, with many Sense 3.0 goodies which probably won't be officially included in GB update at all. as a downside, these roms can have some bugs, but are overall better than stock. just take a look into some rom development topics...
Desire has it's flaws but overall i'm waaay satisfied... although it's now an old rag D) it still kicks many "smartphone" butts out there. i came from nokia x6 and now i wonder why did i go there in a first place...
anyway, i think you can't go wrong with it. you can of course buy DHD for somewhat better hardware or spare some more money for sensation, but if you're unviling to do so, Desire is still great choice...just my 2 cents!! cheers, i hope this helps a bit!
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Thanks a lot very useful post ,,,
I will ditch my N8 for Android/HTC ,,, I really loved Android and HTC from using Wildfire for 10 days only !!!
mmmmm , DHD Roms working on Desire ?? very good and new info for me...
and i am agree with you that there is no much difference at specification just bigger screen and camera but ditching 12MP Cam - the best i ever used - means that i don't care that much for it
so your are happy with desire and it's worth it's money,,, is there any news about official update from HTC ???
and what is DHD latest official version right now ??

Comparing DHD to Incredible S latest HTC one core device they are the same !!! and i think that DHD is even better !!!

MohamedYousri said:
Thanks a lot very useful post ,,,
I will ditch my N8 for Android/HTC ,,, I really loved Android and HTC from using Wildfire for 10 days only !!!
mmmmm , DHD Roms working on Desire ?? very good and new info for me...
and i am agree with you that there is no much difference at specification just bigger screen and camera but ditching 12MP Cam - the best i ever used - means that i don't care that much for it
so your are happy with desire and it's worth it's money,,, is there any news about official update from HTC ???
and what is DHD latest official version right now ??
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yeah, x6 had much better camera, and camera is my only problem with desire. but the phone (any phone) is never meant to be a substitute for real camera..so no real prob here....
DHD rom for desire is actually a port, so desire can run it. it's not THE rom from DHD. with that said, you can put virtually any rom into desire but with more or less tweaking to the point where hardware eventually becomes incapable of running much newer rom. therefore sense 3.0 stuff are greatly tweaked for desire to be able to run it. it's not like the real thing but pretty much close. and it's getting better every day... modders here are the wizards, i tell you...
so yeah, i'm happy with desire, didn't regret spending the money on it at all!
as for the official update from HTC, there were many contradictory statements, and the final one is that there WILL be gingerbread update but no word on sense update. you can find it in desire-general section.

I'm using Desire since April 2010, so it's more than a year now. I was very excited about the whole Android thing. And still am. But the phone itself has some big issues. First of all is the huge lack of internal memory. I can't even install the most necessary apps. Secondly it's the overheating problem. My Desire was one of the first Amoled batches and it had issues with the SOC. While using processor demanding apps like navigation, flash playback etc. It was constantly rebooting. Had to repair it. For 3 times. Then it's the speaker and battery. They both are weak. After my previous E61 Desiree's speaker really sucks. Camera is decent too. But in overall I still like, though I would really consider buying SGS back then. Now I'll wait for another year or so. Btw I'm now using MIUI ROM and it gave a second breath to Desire. Good luck with buying!
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Thanks all for your help , i will back again when i get the final prices for D , DHD and Ds as i will not buy it from my country , my cousin will get it to me so i am waiting the prices from him
if you will choose between Desire,Desire S and Desire HD , What will you choose ? and why ?
and if you have other suggestions - even if not HTC - let me know

MohamedYousri said:
Thanks all for your help , i will back again when i get the final prices for D , DHD and Ds as i will not buy it from my country , my cousin will get it to me so i am waiting the prices from him
if you will choose between Desire,Desire S and Desire HD , What will you choose ? and why ?
and if you have other suggestions - even if not HTC - let me know
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I'd go for dhd, bigger screen and same specs of ds, regular desire is a bit outdated compared to them both imo...

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I'd go for dhd, bigger screen and same specs of ds, regular desire is a bit outdated compared to them both imo...
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+1
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What about HD Games like Asphalt HD and NFS , are their performance good at this devices ?!

MohamedYousri said:
What about HD Games like Asphalt HD and NFS , are their performance good at this devices ?!
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Those are working good, but ofc latest tegra games will run no more than decent, adreno 205 is a relatively weak gpu compared to the latest hardware goodness like tegra 2 SOCs...

best buy at the moment is Samsung Galaxy S 2 for 400€.

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best buy at the moment is Samsung Galaxy S 2 for 400€.
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400€ is an awful lot for something to deserve the best buy tag.

Beso said:
best buy at the moment is Samsung Galaxy S 2 for 400€.
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Yes, 400€...in your dreams...

[Q] Upgrade due next week but is there a better phone than the DHD?????

Hi All.
So my contract is up for renewal on monday and they have offered me a new phone if i stay with them another 12 months.
I currently have a DHD wich i love to bits, but is there a better htc model. they have offered me a desire sensation, or a desire s, but i have been reading up about the phones and none seem as good as the DHD.
And obviously iphones are a definate no no, although it would be good to get one and run it over in my van!!!!
Any suggestions??
jamie

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Any suggestions??
jamie
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If you're talking about the HTC Sensation, thats the best choice you can make ... Dont know if a Desire Sensation exist... Think in a couple of days theres a way to permroot the Sensation, then you will have a lot of fun with that stuff

Samsung Galaxy S 2 is the smarttest choice, HTC Sensation is the second choice. Both are dual core

I would go for the sgs 2 as well. They have Cyanogenmod nightly builds which is the most important thing to me these days. Further down the list is the superb hardware.
Sent from my Cyanogenmod 7 phone.

Sure, the SGS is a nice one, but in my opinion it looks... simply cheap

I have the optimus 2x and it doesn't feel faster than the DHD. I believe later versions of android will utilize the second core better but until then you won't feel much difference.
To your question, the galaxy s series are very fast and with open bootloaders and everything, but the feel very cheap and plasticy when held ( imo ) I wouldn't buy them over the DHD or the sensation. On the other hand they do have cm7 support but many hardware drivers are missing so they don't work as good with cm as our DHDs do. I bet the Sensation will have a more operational cm built before the sgs II despite the head start. If you don't care about cm though or you don't mind/like the way the sgs II feels in your hand, it's the best you can buy.
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XL3N7 said:
I have the optimus 2x and it doesn't feel faster than the DHD. I believe later versions of android will utilize the second core better but until then you won't feel much difference.
To your question, the galaxy s series are very fast and with open bootloaders and everything, but the feel very cheap and plasticy when held ( imo ) I wouldn't buy them over the DHD or the sensation. On the other hand they do have cm7 support but many hardware drivers are missing so they don't work as good with cm as our DHDs do. I bet the Sensation will have a more operational cm built before the sgs II despite the head start. If you don't care about cm though or you don't mind/like the way the sgs II feels in your hand, it's the best you can buy.
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i totally agree with you, i think if the Samsung was designed more "stylish" it may be my choice, but the Sensation is really more exclusive (?) ... excuse my Enlish, its not my favourite languige, but i try to do my best

Any suggestions??
jamie
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I would stay with the DHD and renew to sim only contract, saves you a lot of money.
Good luck with the choice!
don't brick a phone with a van, use a microwave.. ;-)

The Sensation now has s-off and able to install custom Roms. Think I saw the info on Android Police.
LeeDrOiD already has a custom rom for it. He supports all his roms well and has a high attention to detail.
I personally would have bought one and LeeDrOiD powered it, but it doesn't support 850mhz (edit: 3g) , which I really want now. ....... So a SGS2 on order.
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The Sensation now has s-off and able to install custom Roms. Think I saw the info on Android Police.
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Indeed, now it's only a matter of time before it gets cm and a plethora of custom sense roms.
Thanks for the info.

Wonder if the battery life is any good on those two phones.

i have got both sgs2 and dhd so since you have dhd u know its performance check out this video for sgs2 performance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LNL56Aae08
sgs2 is a great device even better than dhd but i love the sense ui