Does anybody know of a working OTG cable for the Nexus 7 2013? If so please reply with a link to Amazon. I am planning to hook up either a ps3 controller or xbox 360 controller.
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0095TEL8Y/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Bought it and am using it.
For 2013 version?
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Using it right at this very moment on my very own N7 2013 built in July 2013
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0073EPXO4/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This is what I'm using. Cheap & works great & is pretty thick, I feel like it'll last long.
I use this one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009YPYORM/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
purchased from seller: Atomic Market for around $10
It has the additional bonus of being able to accept power via its additional USB cable.
I find the Nexus 7 LTE 2013 does not need the additional power for typical USB thumb drives, but it might be needed for other devices like an external disk drive.
I find my Chromecast must have this cable powered in order to use a USB thumb drive to root and replace the android operating system.
You can save a few bucks for a cable that does not provide power if you want.
I also own this one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005FUNYSA/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
(purchased from amazon seller: Digital Center(Ships From Hong Kong)
which only costs $1.49 with free shipping. It was $0.83 when I purchased it last year.
It works on the Nexus 7 LTE 2013 with USB thumb drives, but does NOT provide additional power for devices which may need it.
Can you confirm thath this otg power cable charges the nexus 7 2013 while still reading peripheral data from usb port?
HowardZ said:
I use this one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009YPYORM/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
purchased from seller: Atomic Market for around $10
It has the additional bonus of being able to accept power via its additional USB cable.
I find the Nexus 7 LTE 2013 does not need the additional power for typical USB thumb drives, but it might be needed for other devices like an external disk drive.
I find my Chromecast must have this cable powered in order to use a USB thumb drive to root and replace the android operating system.
You can save a few bucks for a cable that does not provide power if you want.
I also own this one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005FUNYSA/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
(purchased from amazon seller: Digital Center(Ships From Hong Kong)
which only costs $1.49 with free shipping. It was $0.83 when I purchased it last year.
It works on the Nexus 7 LTE 2013 with USB thumb drives, but does NOT provide additional power for devices which may need it.
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Can you confirm thath this otg power cable charges the nexus 7 2013 while still reading peripheral data from usb port?
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I can only confirm that both OTG cables I own work on the Nexus 7 2013.
i am using one that came with my minix x5 and it works on all my android devices, but the connection is loose. i would be surprised if there was one that did not work as the cable itself is such a simple thing.
i would also like to know of a working powered option. i thought the powered cables only supply power to the accessory, not to charge the device itself.
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I can only confirm that both OTG cables I own work on the Nexus 7 2013.
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Since you have the USB OTG cable with the additional cable for charging, would you mind testing it by:
1). Connecting a working USB device (mouse, HDD, etc.)
2). Connecting the USB power to the 2nd cable in the OTG cable
I am trying to use a BT keyboard and non-BT wireless mouse and charge the N7, but unfortunately, it drains the battery down heavily.
PS: I CANNOT use both BT keyboard and mouse AND have Wifi ON, as it interferes with the BT radio, making the keyboard and mouse lag heavily. I have created a thread on this also.
What thread is that?
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What thread is that?
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This one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...ess mouse (non-bluetooth) that works with N7?
lanwarrior said:
Since you have the USB OTG cable with the additional cable for charging, would you mind testing it by:
1). Connecting a working USB device (mouse, HDD, etc.)
2). Connecting the USB power to the 2nd cable in the OTG cable
I am trying to use a BT keyboard and non-BT wireless mouse and charge the N7, but unfortunately, it drains the battery down heavily.
PS: I CANNOT use both BT keyboard and mouse AND have Wifi ON, as it interferes with the BT radio, making the keyboard and mouse lag heavily. I have created a thread on this also.
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I have connected a USB thumb drive. The thumb drive works with or without power attached, but it will not charge. I suppose it is built to provide the power to the attached USB device and not to the phone / tablet.
Regards
Howard
I just got a cable from monoprice and it works great.
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=108&cp_id=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=9724&seq=1&format=2
Has anyone found an OTG cable that can be used to power a thumb drive and apply power to the Nexus 7? I'm trying to find one for when I'm traveling. I'd like to be able to watch movies and keep the device charging.
lanwarrior said:
Since you have the USB OTG cable with the additional cable for charging, would you mind testing it by:
1). Connecting a working USB device (mouse, HDD, etc.)
2). Connecting the USB power to the 2nd cable in the OTG cable
I am trying to use a BT keyboard and non-BT wireless mouse and charge the N7, but unfortunately, it drains the battery down heavily.
PS: I CANNOT use both BT keyboard and mouse AND have Wifi ON, as it interferes with the BT radio, making the keyboard and mouse lag heavily. I have created a thread on this also.
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Perhaps a small powered USB hub will reduce the power drain on the N7?
Have a look at this.
Some ****ty spam prevention policies don't allow me posting an outside link.
(Seems I haven't posted "enough" to be considered "trustable"
So figure out the url below.
ptth:\\mehrvarz.github.io\usb-host-mode-power-management-nexus7\
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Some ****ty spam prevention policies don't allow me posting an outside link.
(Seems I haven't posted "enough" to be considered "trustable"
So figure out the url below.
ptth:\\mehrvarz.github.io\usb-host-mode-power-management-nexus7\
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Easy enough to figure out...but I will post clickable link for ya http://mehrvarz.github.io/usb-host-mode-power-management-nexus7/
lanwarrior said:
Since you have the USB OTG cable with the additional cable for charging, would you mind testing it by:
1). Connecting a working USB device (mouse, HDD, etc.)
2). Connecting the USB power to the 2nd cable in the OTG cable
I am trying to use a BT keyboard and non-BT wireless mouse and charge the N7, but unfortunately, it drains the battery down heavily.
PS: I CANNOT use both BT keyboard and mouse AND have Wifi ON, as it interferes with the BT radio, making the keyboard and mouse lag heavily. I have created a thread on this also.
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My y-connector from my n4 doesn't charge while using USB otg. The ability to do so is not written in the software. I'll try to locate the source and report. OTOH, the USB otg connectors from my GNex and N4 all work on my N5 and both old and new N7's.
EDIT: I just ran across this. I'm sure it's for the original N7. I wasn't even aware of it so obviously have not tested it. I did use ziddey's kernel on the N4. Still searching.
2nd EDIT: Available for N7 FLO/DEB 4.4.2. I'm running franco but will revert to stock then try this (as soon as I make a nandroid of my device).
3rd EDIT: That kernel does work to charge while on usb otg. It is a setting you choose to activate during the set-up. I just chose stock everything until I got to the power choices. I will say that although the install was successful, I came as close as I've ever come to thinking my device was bricked. After the install, the screen went black and I couldn't do anything. After about a 30 sec power button mash, everything booted back up. This video shows installation on the N5. Some choices are different on the N7 FHD. As I said above, I was NOT returned to TWRP after installation.
There is a note about altering a sys file for OTG peripherals. I only attached a flash drive and the usb_charge_mode was set to Y (I assume for yes). You may have to perform the edit if using a peripheral device.
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Anyone know if it's possible to use MHL in conjunction with a microUSB to USB host adaptor to output to HDMI and access an external USB drive at the same time? That'd make the SGS2 an amazing portable media unit.
No, it is not posible. Its an either/or connection to the micro USB port.
Shame, because as you say that would really be a great thing. MHL consortium are considering a number of improvements to the 2.0 MHL spec, so in future devices this may be a possibility.
So MHL can't be used when I'll plug a USB-Hub?
No, sadly not.
It's a shame - for now I'd prefer micro USB & separate HDMI port so USB can be utilised as well as an external display.
As would I, and a lot of others I suspect.
But you've got 16 GB memory and can copy your stuff to the memory and watch it later via MHL on your Flat? So this is not a big problem, I think
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But you've got 16 GB memory and can copy your stuff to the memory and watch it later via MHL on your Flat? So this is not a big problem, I think
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Yes, but 16Gb of FAT32 and you can't copy a file > 4Gb
I would use allshare to stream the movie or whatever to your phone from a laptop and connect the phone to TV via the MHL HDMI adapter...that way you have access to ur laptop's data without being hardwired to it
chizzwhizz said:
I would use allshare to stream the movie or whatever to your phone from a laptop and connect the phone to TV via the MHL HDMI adapter...that way you have access to ur laptop's data without being hardwired to it
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Yes, it helps only if your laptop can't play smoothly a HD video
Has anyone got a generic MHL cable to work with the galaxy s 2 yet?
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Has anyone got a generic MHL cable to work with the galaxy s 2 yet?
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Not that I'm aware of...
I bought one from Ebay and can't really do anything good with it. Display shows briefly for 3-4 seconds on TV then disappears again. Don't know why.....I hope it's not the device itself because I tested 2 phones, they were bought at the same time, but none of them would work correctly....
If by generic you mean a not samsung one or one not dedicated to the SGS2 then i actually use a one, from ebay or someting like that, everything works perfect you just cant forget to plug power to it, and about the not working one, it seems mine gets jammed by gsm signal (i.e. when receiving a call), so from time to time the image disappears in a blink of noise, maybe that is your problem too, try it in airplane mode.
Oh, I think I misread that question - I have actually used a generic one with my SGSII (a prototype from the MHL consortium) and it worked fine!
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I would use allshare to stream the movie or whatever to your phone from a laptop and connect the phone to TV via the MHL HDMI adapter...that way you have access to ur laptop's data without being hardwired to it
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No, you can't, when the MHL is connected, the WiFi stops working, I regret not having bought the Optimus 2x
erebocln said:
No, you can't, when the MHL is connected, the WiFi stops working, I regret not having bought the Optimus 2x
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Uhm no. I've been streaming with WIFI through MHL no problem for MONTHS. Using the Original Samsung MHL connector of course.
I have to put mine in offline mode to be able to use the MHL adapter.....
As for USB-OTG no luck yet.....
On Amazon, Ebay, DealExtrem ... you will find adapters that can do 3 things at a time:
- output HDMI
- let phone work as usb host, so that you can plug kbd, mouse, and external HDD (second wifi card, wired ethernet ...); once you have the usb A plug, just pub a hub
- recharge the phone (what is not possible with the legacy short OTG cable).
+ read memory cards
Such devices are sold as MHL devices. Some MHL devices don't to all that.
Take care. MHLv2 is more complex than MHLv1.
doublehp said:
On Amazon, Ebay, DealExtrem ... you will find adapters that can do 3 things at a time:
- output HDMI
- let phone work as usb host, so that you can plug kbd, mouse, and external HDD (second wifi card, wired ethernet ...); once you have the usb A plug, just pub a hub
- recharge the phone (what is not possible with the legacy short OTG cable).
+ read memory cards
Such devices are sold as MHL devices. Some MHL devices don't to all that.
Take care. MHLv2 is more complex than MHLv1.
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Could you post a link as an example for such a device, that works properly (if you've tested, or you know it works) ?
Thank you
I can post links, but ... I have not tested any of those. And don't know any one personally who tested it.
Cable:
http://www.amazon.com/Juiced-Systems-MHL-Adapter-MicroSDHC/dp/B008CQKM2U
http://www.dx.com/p/5-in-1-micro-us...n-micro-usb-adapter-black-257780#.U8HYDNePul0
Monobloc:
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Micro-USB-Ho..._MobilePhoneDataCables_JN&hash=item258600844e
I don't like the monobloc version; I fear it's too heavy, and may help breaking the phone plug.
There are all sorts of OTG and MHL cables. I have seen OTG dongles as short as 4cm (monobloc), with small cable (8cm: 4-8€), with long cable (1.5m .... should be 7 feet), pure HDMI (passive cable, no card reader, 8-12€), VGA (including very cheap HDMI to VGA converter, 20-30€ ... including sound output). In some case, you need to buy accessories (extra power supply, extra uUSB cable, extra HDMI cable). Also seen a very cute hybrid card reader: http://dx.com/p/285865 (I love this product design, and I love this URL syntax )
Don't forget that there can be mistakes in item description.
Here I have described how to build an external battery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54036759&postcount=17
On previous phone, I just soldered additional battery to internal one; on my new phone, I will do something more complex, and more flexible.
Loosing power via OTG/MHL is not a fatality. Most phone have an other hidden power input:
généric, that uses the USB plug:
http://www.dx.com/p/reverse-qi-wire...arger-receiver-for-micro-usb-cellphone-312805
TRIPLE CHECK POLARITY; I took the wrong one; have to fold the cable.
So ... even if your OTG/MHL module takes power from your USB, and can not recharge your phone, the specific shell can charge your phone the other way So, you need to build an internal specific module:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK7PRJ4SiK0
S2 specific back shell, so called receiver:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2013-newest-wireless-charger-for-samsung-galaxy-s2/1266101036.html
http://www.exportprive.com/en/batte...reless-charger-set-for-samsung-galaxy-s2.html
http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/QI-Wireless-Charger-for-Samsung-Galaxy_821969998.html?s=p
The SGS2 is not designed to accept wireless chargers, so, you have two options:
- solder and take the pins out (cf youtube) (do not solder coild to battery, or you could overcharge the batt, and burn your phone ... I mean, physically set fire)
- find an item that includes back shell + specific battery (exportprive)
Many recent phones have the internal connectors, so you just need to change the back-cover. In this case, the software will be able to know the charger is wireless (as opposed to AC, and USB; advanced battery tools will show those 3 possibilities). I believe the motherboard for my HTC One M8 is designed to have those pins, but I can't find the specific cover yet (maybe in a few months); only found it for M7.
I bought a original Samsung USB OTG Cable for my Samsung Galaxy S3 from online store ( shopsection.com ) , can anyone post tips and tricks about it.
according to my testing, Most of all USB devices can access
1- Amazing cable, it works perfect in Galaxy S II, Galaxy S III and Galaxy Note
2- Connect pendrive 2GB, 4GB, 8Gb, 16GB and access files , documents, songs, movies instant from your S3
3- Like to draw anything without C-Pen stylus? connect USB mouse and draw anything u want as like in computer mouse cursor
4- feeling touch to type on touch screen? connect USB keyboard via OTG cable and start typing SMS and Emails.
5- Does your friends running out of battery ?, connect their mobile with their usb data cable to OTG cable and get charged
6- Also if your friend give access for "Mass storage" access his files from his mobile phone
7- want to take instant printout from your S 3, connect printer USB to OTG cable and give a shot
Article from other websites about OTG cable,
- Remote Access your mobile using Data modem
- support PS3 controller
also if anyone has more tips and tricks for this OTG cable, kindly post it. so thrilled to enjoy its benefits.
I heard also Xbox 360 wired remotes work as well
I have a chinese non-oem OTG cable and works fine with pretty much every USB devide I have (usb memories, keyboard, mouse). I havent tried game remotes or a printer.
Not as amazing as the adapter Samsung will be releasing whenever they can be bothered because it will use the full 11 pins and allow MHL and other accessories simultaneously, but like always they take so long releasing accessories people just get pissed off while they waiting.
Yes Micheal 100% acceptable. only advantage for OTG cable was they launched long back after few months from Galaxy SII. But same cable we are using it for Galaxy Note and Galaxy SIII. But we are really worried for Flip Cover launch for SIII. it took nearly 2 weeks time from SIII mobile launch.
There are plenty of local manufacturers releasing case and covers and even OTG cable. only this guy has the original samsung OTG cable in India shopsection.com/item/USB_Host_OTG_Cable_for_Samsung_Galaxy_S_3 for sale with offer price.
Michael_P said:
Not as amazing as the adapter Samsung will be releasing whenever they can be bothered because it will use the full 11 pins and allow MHL and other accessories simultaneously, but like always they take so long releasing accessories people just get pissed off while they waiting.
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Another friend from Singapore told me, OTG cable used to connect medical equipment. not sure what it is.
is it possible to connect usb device to OTG and can we use hdmi port to display mobile screen USB host to TV ??? did anyone tried this?
fbloise said:
I heard also Xbox 360 wired remotes work as well
I have a chinese non-oem OTG cable and works fine with pretty much every USB devide I have (usb memories, keyboard, mouse). I havent tried game remotes or a printer.
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ananmetro said:
Another friend from Singapore told me, OTG cable used to connect medical equipment. not sure what it is.
is it possible to connect usb device to OTG and can we use hdmi port to display mobile screen USB host to TV ??? did anyone tried this?
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You need MHL cable to connect HDMI to Tv and you can't connect over Mass Storage mode to Tv, Car etc because Samsung in their wisdom decided not to include it, and I know iPhone has things like blood pressure and heart rate monitors you can connect but never heard of it on Android, but it's possible to create a driver to connect pretty much anything with a USB port to Android.
Bought this otg cable for cheaper rate in local market, it worked for 2 months but i could not connect my Sony Pendrive 8GB. any application needed to upgrade on my Note to support 8gb? can your post me the link whr u purchased samsung otg cable, how long u hv been using it? is that original with warranty?
all those tips tested by you?
ananmetro said:
I bought a original Samsung USB OTG Cable for my Samsung Galaxy S3 from online store ( shopsection.com ) , can anyone post tips and tricks about it.
according to my testing, Most of all USB devices can access
1- Amazing cable, it works perfect in Galaxy S II, Galaxy S III and Galaxy Note
2- Connect pendrive 2GB, 4GB, 8Gb, 16GB and access files , documents, songs, movies instant from your S3
3- Like to draw anything without C-Pen stylus? connect USB mouse and draw anything u want as like in computer mouse cursor
4- feeling touch to type on touch screen? connect USB keyboard via OTG cable and start typing SMS and Emails.
5- Does your friends running out of battery ?, connect their mobile with their usb data cable to OTG cable and get charged
6- Also if your friend give access for "Mass storage" access his files from his mobile phone
7- want to take instant printout from your S 3, connect printer USB to OTG cable and give a shot
Article from other websites about OTG cable,
- Remote Access your mobile using Data modem
- support PS3 controller
also if anyone has more tips and tricks for this OTG cable, kindly post it. so thrilled to enjoy its benefits.
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I myself tested most of features and its working as i said. Not sure what is problem with your flashdrive, but mine everything works. format your memory card and test it again.
bought it from https://www.shopsection.com/item/USB_Host_OTG_Cable_for_Samsung_Galaxy_S_3
Its original samsung accessories and you get 6 months warranty. so you can claim if any issues after 2 months. I believe only these guys selling Samsung S3 original products like flip cover and stylus pen in India
https://www.shopsection.com/item/Flip_Cover_for_Samsung_Galaxy_S3_i9300_(Blue)
moyud said:
Bought this otg cable for cheaper rate in local market, it worked for 2 months but i could not connect my Sony Pendrive 8GB. any application needed to upgrade on my Note to support 8gb? can your post me the link whr u purchased samsung otg cable, how long u hv been using it? is that original with warranty?
all those tips tested by you?
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Um, how about these tips:
Super cool video JoyStick connectivity is really great....
NZtechfreak said:
Um, how about these tips:
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Can you buy any brand USB OTG cable and they will work?
alfy! said:
Can you buy any brand USB OTG cable and they will work?
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Wow 2nd post. Read much? :thumbdown:
fbloise said:
I heard also Xbox 360 wired remotes work as well
I have a chinese non-oem OTG cable and works fine with pretty much every USB devide I have (usb memories, keyboard, mouse). I havent tried game remotes or a printer.
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Does anybody know if arduino is doing anything with this? It would be awesome if you could edit and upload arduino sketches using an android phone and an otg cable.
moyud said:
Bought this otg cable for cheaper rate in local market, it worked for 2 months but i could not connect my Sony Pendrive 8GB. any application needed to upgrade on my Note to support 8gb? can your post me the link whr u purchased samsung otg cable, how long u hv been using it? is that original with warranty?
all those tips tested by you?
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The first thing that you need to check is how your thumb drive is formatted. I haven't tried a thumb drive on my SIII yet but on Atrixs I've evaluated they could only interface with FAT thumb drives. NTFS wouldn't work. You should also try a different model of thumb drive, I don't know about the power requirements but it might just be too high.
USB On The Go cable awareness not upto the level. Samsung must advertise about their accessories too as like Nokia. OTG cable is really useful to access files instant. but i wonder why its only suitable for very few models and since Galaxy Y is also has update android firmware.
anybody tried OTG cable other than S III?
Anyone know if a 32GB flash drive would work with otg cable?
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rvpals said:
Anyone know if a 32GB flash drive would work with otg cable?
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Yes.
Did anyone get external usb hard drive to work with otg cable on the same three. I have tried but it does not work for me, both 2.5&3.5
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rvpals said:
Did anyone get external usb hard drive to work with otg cable on the same three. I have tried but it does not work for me, both 2.5&3.5
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I think the external hard drives will only work if you use a usb port multiplier with a external power source. Dont quote me on that though!
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Miggless said:
I think the external hard drives will only work if you use a usb port multiplier with a external power source. Dont quote me on that though!
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I have actually try plugin my external hard drive with 2 headed USB cable, one connects to the USB OTG cable, one end connects to a USB port for power, and it still doesn't work.
It would be nice if it would work though.
Hi All,
Has anyone tested the new nexus 7 (2013) with a slim port and tried USB OTG at the same time?
I am very keen to find out if i can use a Nexus 7 as a portal Media machine to play back movies from a thumb drive on Hotel TVs when i travel without the need to move the file.
I understand I'd lose ability to charge the nexus 7 using USB OTG (OTG limitation) but I can live with that.
Thanks for any results
Tony.
Acuum2 said:
Hi All,
Has anyone tested the new nexus 7 (2013) with a slim port and tried USB OTG at the same time?
I am very keen to find out if i can use a Nexus 7 as a portal Media machine to play back movies from a thumb drive on Hotel TVs when i travel without the need to move the file.
I understand I'd lose ability to charge the nexus 7 using USB OTG (OTG limitation) but I can live with that.
Thanks for any results
Tony.
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AFAIK the Slimport cable needs to be directly plugged into the USB port so it can switch the Nexus 4 from standard microUSB to Slimport broadcast mode on negotiating with the hardware. If you attempted to run the Slimport adaptor through a hub or Y-cable it wouldn't work.
Thanks,
I was wondering if I could plug an OTG cable into the female on something like:
(sorry if direct product links aren't allowed)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Slimport-HD...=UTF8&qid=1378228626&sr=8-2&keywords=slimport
Acuum2 said:
Thanks,
I was wondering if I could plug an OTG cable into the female on something like:
(sorry if direct product links aren't allowed)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Slimport-HD...=UTF8&qid=1378228626&sr=8-2&keywords=slimport
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I have attempts to connect an OTG cable to the female port on my Slimport without any luck. The Slimport worked well otherwise.
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vcallas said:
I have attempts to connect an OTG cable to the female port on my Slimport without any luck. The Slimport worked well otherwise.
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Thank you for the test results.
shame... oh well!
T.
vcallas said:
I have attempts to connect an OTG cable to the female port on my Slimport without any luck. The Slimport worked well otherwise.
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Yeah, the microUSB port on the Slimport is for power only, the data pins aren't even wired up.
Suppose I connect Nexus 7 to a monitor through SlimPort. This monitor has USB ports built in. If I connect a keyboard or mouse to this USB port, will it work with the tablet?
unni_kmr said:
Suppose I connect Nexus 7 to a monitor through SlimPort. This monitor has USB ports built in. If I connect a keyboard or mouse to this USB port, will it work with the tablet?
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No - this wont work.
As stated above the data pins on the slimport are not connected so the USB can't be used for anything other than power.
ie. Tablet can't do anything else over usb when the slimport is in use.
Bluetooth keyboard + mouse could work for you though
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No - this wont work.
As stated above the data pins on the slimport are not connected so the USB can't be used for anything other than power.
ie. Tablet can't do anything else over usb when the slimport is in use.
Bluetooth keyboard + mouse could work for you though
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Thanks. My intention was to use the tablet as a PC alternative for my parents. I have dropped the idea. Now I am thinking about getting one of those Android mini PCs instead (thread here).
The issue is the limited number of pins on the Micro USB port are multi-purpose.
A Micro USB port has 5 pins, one is power and another is ground, that leaves 3 for data. These 3 "flip" (for want of a better word) between USB mode and Slimport mode, So it can only do one or the other at any time.
So the lack of data pins on the slimport pass-through port (as stated above) is not the issue. They didn't bother wiring them up because they share a couple of pins in common and so wouldn't work anyway.
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Just to clarify a slimport Micro USB connector has 5 pins. Samsung on the other hand are now using MHL 3.0 and they are pushing on with an 11 pin connectors that open up all sorts of options such as simultaneous data connections and even multiple displays! nice!
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A Micro USB port has 5 pins, one is power and another is ground, that leaves 3 for data. These 3 "flip" (for want of a better word) between USB mode and Slimport mode, So it can only do one or the other at any time.
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Exactly. SlimPort™ Technology White Paper has a nice explanation along with the good picture showing SlimPort architeture (see page 4)
I've got a Note 10.1 2014 mounted in the dash of my truck to replace the radio and am on a mission to figure out how to get USB OTG to work with charging. I've read an ocean of threads regarding hacking MHL adapters, but there is not any information specific to the Note 10.1 2014.
Right now I've got a relay system in the dash that switches between a OTG cable and a charge cable depending if the ignition is on or off. This works for my basic purposes, but if I use GPS navigation and wifi tethering, I run the battery pretty low after only 3-4 hours. When I turn off the truck it begins charging, but that wont work for a road trip.
I've tried the Samsung smart dock (without reading that it wouldn't work), and of course, it doesn't work, although it would be the perfect solution.
My idea is that there would be some way to use the 11 pin MHL connector on the device to get what I'm after. Looking at the pinout, it seems that there are some USB host pins within the 6 additional MHL pins, but I do not know of anyone who has tapped into them and had OTG working.
Is anyone else trying to get this to work on a Note 10.1 2014? I'm happy to hack up and solder anything and everything imaginable to give it a try, but I'd like to collaborate about it and see if we as a group can get this working.
Im about ready to rip apart my smartdock and see exactly why it wont work with this tablet.... have no idea why it qont recognise the tablet...
morgancole said:
I've got a Note 10.1 2014 mounted in the dash of my truck to replace the radio and am on a mission to figure out how to get USB OTG to work with charging. I've read an ocean of threads regarding hacking MHL adapters, but there is not any information specific to the Note 10.1 2014.
Right now I've got a relay system in the dash that switches between a OTG cable and a charge cable depending if the ignition is on or off. This works for my basic purposes, but if I use GPS navigation and wifi tethering, I run the battery pretty low after only 3-4 hours. When I turn off the truck it begins charging, but that wont work for a road trip.
I've tried the Samsung smart dock (without reading that it wouldn't work), and of course, it doesn't work, although it would be the perfect solution.
My idea is that there would be some way to use the 11 pin MHL connector on the device to get what I'm after. Looking at the pinout, it seems that there are some USB host pins within the 6 additional MHL pins, but I do not know of anyone who has tapped into them and had OTG working.
Is anyone else trying to get this to work on a Note 10.1 2014? I'm happy to hack up and solder anything and everything imaginable to give it a try, but I'd like to collaborate about it and see if we as a group can get this working.
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Man, you really gotta get us a screenie of this! That's bad ass.
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Meanwhile, is there a possibility for that knock-out?
High current charging has an impact on the signal lines. So USB 2.0 current is limited to 500mA, or probably the 900mA from USB3, if the port can provide it. On a standard USB2 port the Note remains self-powered. And even with 900mA it will slowly discharge while in use, despite the battery charging at max current. On a 2A charger, the operating power bypasses the battery, which is much more healthy for it.
Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately I asked imprecise. What I liked to ask is, if there is meanwhile a possibility to charge the tablet while using the usb connection e.g. with an external hard disk?
Almost certainly not. Samsung could have provided a charger jack, or even support wireless charging. But it was not meant to be.
I just tried one of the charge and 2 female usb adapters off ebay and it didnt charge. It detected the usb connectors connection, but wouldnt charge.
$5 lost...
Did you used the wall plug? Because the tab needs 2A for charging...
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Why not take away the USB requirement? I assume you want this to allow external storage, in this case get some sort of NAS that can be 12V powered and install that in your truck then allow the Note to connect to this via Wifi, then the USB port can be dedicated entirely for charging only.
Plus you have the benefit that when at home you can transfer file to your NAS without needing to leave you PC.
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atunguyd said:
Why not take away the USB requirement? I assume you want this to allow external storage, in this case get some sort of NAS that can be 12V powered and install that in your truck then allow the Note to connect to this via Wifi, then the USB port can be dedicated entirely for charging only.
Plus you have the benefit that when at home you can transfer file to your NAS without needing to leave you PC.
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Check out ravPower wireless hub. Just ordered one since my otg hub quit working. It can charge and store with sd card. Will post when it comes in
sidyoung57 said:
Check out ravPower wireless hub. Just ordered one since my otg hub quit working. It can charge and store with sd card. Will post when it comes in
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Are you using the LTE/3G for internet access? if not then setting up a wireless network in your truck might work. I use a HooToo TM001 (also have the TM002) to do this set up. The hub has a 6000mah battery that when the USB drive is not installed can charge a device.
i know it's been a while since OP posted, but i've been using a wireless HD so i can use external storage and maintain a charge. if you get the seagate wireless plus, you'll be able to charge and stream at the same time as long as you use a usb3.0 cable to charge from (it's included). using a 2.0 cable will turn off wifi.
it's quite a bit more than OTG, but it does allow you to have tons of storage available while still having a charging option.
I use a nexus 7 in the dash of my car (sure do wish I had space for the note 10.1 in there though!) With the nexus 7 I bought a y-cable that allows me to charge AND use otg functions. However, a specific kernel was needed im pretty sure. I set it all up a while back so I cant remember specifically sorry. Its all nexus 7 forums here though.
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I use a nexus 7 in the dash of my car (sure do wish I had space for the note 10.1 in there though!) With the nexus 7 I bought a y-cable that allows me to charge AND use otg functions. However, a specific kernel was needed im pretty sure. I set it all up a while back so I cant remember specifically sorry. Its all nexus 7 forums here though.
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can you click on about tablet and let me know which kernel please
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can you click on about tablet and let me know which kernel please
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yeah mate, i'll have a look for you. the nexus 7 is out of the car now cus im trying to make a custom facia to fit the samsung note 10.1 in there. so I'll have to charge it up and have a look which kernel it was running. but im pretty sure it was just the default one that came with the AutoDroid rom in the nexus 7 forums.
if you don't hear back from me just pm me, I'm forgetful as hell and its coming into exam time....so yeah
I just received the phone and tried to use it with this dock with no results (the power led lights on and android P notifications shows the connection with a USB device, however it is not properly recognized).
I tried with an USB key, a mSD and with a HDMI cable attached. Any advice on alternative solutions? (both HW and SW).
I wish I could relate or let alone try to understand what you just said. I would have been fine with typos , but clearly your sentence structure is off even without proper punctuation. Regardless, thank you for the information sir.
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I wish I could relate or let alone try to understand what you just said. I would have been fine with typos , but clearly your sentence structure is off even without proper punctuation. Regardless, thank you for the information sir.
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Thanks for the tip Sir. I rewrote the sentences in a clearer way to make them easily understandable.
I was using a third party DASH cable originally for my OP3, with my OP7P and noticed it does the same thing as your dock. Side note the OP7P could not be recognized in fastboot with said third party DASH cable.
But the OEM cable works without fail ever time could be pin/or chip? configuration but I don't know enough about Warp/DASH/VOOC to say.
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I was using a third party DASH cable originally for my OP3, with my OP7P and noticed it does the same thing as your dock. Side note the OP7P could not be recognized in fastboot with said third party DASH cable.
But the OEM cable works without fail ever time could be pin/or chip? configuration but I don't know enough about Warp/DASH/VOOC to say.
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I made some further tests and these are the results:
- With the dock powered with a PD cable (so charging the phone as well) the video signal works as expected but no other devices are recognized (I tried a USB key, a keyboard and the usual microSD but none are visible)
- Using a simple USB-C to HDMI cable the video out works like a charm
I think the USB issue might be related to the drivers needed to identify the device (a similar situation happened to me on the Nexus 7 several years ago and I fixed it changing the kernel). For now I think I will have to find a different dock. The best one for my needs should have 2 USB, mSD slot, HDMI and Ethernet. Any tips?
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I made some further tests and these are the results:
- With the dock powered with a PD cable (so charging the phone as well) the video signal works as expected but no other devices are recognized (I tried a USB key, a keyboard and the usual microSD but none are visible)
- Using a simple USB-C to HDMI cable the video out works like a charm
I think the USB issue might be related to the drivers needed to identify the device (a similar situation happened to me on the Nexus 7 several years ago and I fixed it changing the kernel). For now I think I will have to find a different dock. The best one for my needs should have 2 USB, mSD slot, HDMI and Ethernet. Any tips?
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One further update:
I used the same dock on the Mi A1 with Android P and it is properly recognized with both the mSD and the USB key attached. Obviously there is no HDMI out since the port is only a USB 2.0 one rather than a 3.1 like the OP7P.
At this point I think it might be related to drivers only, because the notification for an attached USB is there but it is not simply recognized (to be honest if i use the PD-USB while having the mSD inserted, the phone is charged but no popup for attached USB device is shown in that case).
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One further update:
I used the same dock on the Mi A1 with Android P and it is properly recognized with both the mSD and the USB key attached. Obviously there is no HDMI out since the port is only a USB 2.0 one rather than a 3.1 like the OP7P.
At this point I think it might be related to drivers only, because the notification for an attached USB is there but it is not simply recognized (to be honest if i use the PD-USB while having the mSD inserted, the phone is charged but no popup for attached USB device is shown in that case).
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Yeah I'm having the same issue, tried an HP dock and a Dell dock. Neither one supported USB. I don't understand why this is, never had this issue on older model Android phones. Must be the drivers.
FYI - The HP one displayed the picture on the monitor via HDMI, but wouldn't charge the phone. Dell one would charge, but wouldn't support the monitor. I have another model Dell dock that I'm going to try next week that I think will work better.
Another quick update.
All the test were performed with OTG on and with USB debug enabled and disabled to see if there are any differences in results(no differences for now)
Atzbee Dock
- HDMI Out working even without an external power source
- No USB drive/key detected
- Phone charging works
EC Technology Dock
- HDMI Out working even without an external power source
- No USB drive/key detected
- Phone charging works
So how can we escalate this to OnePlus? We should not be having these problems.
I made some further tests with several devices.
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Works with every device so far (not tested with Ethernet)
Vava 8 in 1 old & Vava 8 in 1 new
HDMI, USB flash, sd card and transflash work at the same time (even without an external power source).
I am finding problems in the connection of a keyboard or mouse that are never recognized (except for the original OTG cable)
Ethernet is never recognized.
To make sure before I buy one, the vava 8 in 1 hub works with usb flash drive while charging the phone?
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To make sure before I buy one, the vava 8 in 1 hub works with usb flash drive while charging the phone?
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Yes (on USB 3.0), however it is confirmed that is a limitation of the kernel, since flashing a different one seems to make everything work smoothly as reported here.
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Yes (on USB 3.0), however it is confirmed that is a limitation of the kernel, since flashing a different one seems to make everything work smoothly as reported here.
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So it only works on a modified device? (unlocked bootloader, flash new kernel) stock does not work?
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So it only works on a modified device? (unlocked bootloader, flash new kernel) stock does not work?
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it works on USB .3.0 on hubs with stock kernel, but no keyboards or mouse (charging always worked for me). Modifying is needed to achieve the full functionality of the hub
You have to flash a custom kernel to get the USB type C keyboard and mouse working! Stock kernel does not work! Flash it and whalla! read my thread. https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/help/otg-usb-hub-recognizing-mouse-keyboard-t3936188
I just want to report that this issue has been resolved with Android 10. The HP dock I was using now supports the keyboard and mouse. Display and charging also still works.
Well that's a huge bummer, I regret buying the tmo variant. I reported this and chatted with one of the people there about pd+otg issues. I am able to get usb hubs to work if plugged into a c-typeA(f) adapter. That of course means no PD or HDMI, so it's awesome that Android 10 includes that fix!
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I just want to report that this issue has been resolved with Android 10. The HP dock I was using now supports the keyboard and mouse. Display and charging also still works.
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Hello quentin0, could you please share with us the model of the hp dock you are using ? Thanks a lot !
Everything works, SD card, Ethernet, HDMI (Desktop mode or Mirror which one you want), Keyboard, Mouse, Flash drive. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07XRJDMLD?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
Rooted but stock kernel even charge the phone but slowly if you supply external power.
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Wow exactly what I was looking for... Thx a lot !