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Anyone come from other android devices and have opinions on performance, usability, signal, battery life, etc? I'm considering jumping ship from a nexus s. Primarily for the size and battery life, if it is as good as I hear.
Anyone comment on pros/cons vs other android devices you have owned?
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Well, I just had 1 smartphone before the Defy, which was a Samsung Galaxy Spica - an Android device as well. It was a piece of ****, often crashing multiple times a day at random, problems with WiFi switching (sometimes causing a system crash) and mobile connectivity (no INet axx occasionally) as well as numerous other issues. These occured using the original firmware. Because of the instability it was basically unusable.
I'm really happy I switched to the Defy, because its a reliable phone, fast and you can actually play some games on it - another thing that was barely possible on the Spica.
Ill totally trade my defy for your nexus s xD
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sgtmedeiros said:
Ill totally trade my defy for your nexus s xD
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Doesnt help me until you tell me why
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Defy has incredible battery life, sound, touch accuracy. Invincible exterior and nice contour design.
Good rom support and great signal.
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Motorola has a locked bootloader. About the only thing bad about this phone.
Compared to the nexus S, slower processor and inferior graphics. I got it because it was incredibly cheap for the performance.
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Motorola has a locked bootloader. About the only thing bad about this phone.
Compared to the nexus S, slower processor and inferior graphics. I got it because it was incredibly cheap for the performance.
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That seems a pretty fair summary.
Though I'd add that whilst the CPU/GPU does sit beneath the Nexus S's performance-wise, it's certainly not an under-powered handset.
The battery is really impressive - I get anywhere between 2 and 4 days, depending on how heavily I use it.
I came from an XT701 moto phone. The specs much lower on that phone and u notice the improved performance with the DEFY. one thing the XT701 was better was camera... very nice xenon!
But the DEFY is much better... much more internal memory, much faster, screen doesn't scratch, have dropped it numerous times... not a single scratch, I scratched up my old phone in 6 months.
I've also done the water testing at the pub and it wasfully submerged in a jug of water... and survived, many in the crowd VERY IMPRESSED!
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Anyone have any lag?
Never lol
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Anyone have any lag?
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The Motoblur launcher seems a little laggy. Switched to GoLauncher EX, and it's smooth as. LauncherPro is even smoother, but I prefer Go.
I literally JUST rooted and overclocked it to 1GHz. Pretty easy procedure and runs smoother. It's a really good phone, especially for the price point. Add in the fact that its waterproof and pretty much indestructible makes it awesome.
I am looking at getting this phone on my next contract upgrade, its either the defy or htc desire can anyone point me in the right direction ?
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when overclocking, do you lose any battery life? Don't you lose the blur widgets on another launcher? What do the variety of roms out there provide?
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when overclocking, do you lose any battery life? Don't you lose the blur widgets on another launcher? What do the variety of roms out there provide?
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I'm still on the standard ROM (2.1), just rooted with SuperOneClick, and using SetVsel to overclock. It's scaleable, and I've noticed better battery life when the phone is on standby (SetVsel settings are force 300MHz when screen off), but it does seem to drain more when used (vsel at 1.1GHz I have as the same as it was at stock 800MHz). Haven't noticed any instability.
I havn't played around with any ROMs yet, I just don't want to waste any more time
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I am looking at getting this phone on my next contract upgrade, its either the defy or htc desire can anyone point me in the right direction ?
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This is a good phone, but I'd go for the desire. The reason I got this is because I bought it sim-free, and the desire was about £350, whilst this was £270.
My first Android phone was the G1, then followed by Moto Cliq, HTC Hero, Sony Ericsson X10 Mini Pro and most recently Samsung Galaxy S.
I'm really glad I switched from the Samsung Galaxy S, even though the processor + graphics aren't as good I feel the Defy still performs much better. Maybe that's because the Defy has more RAM?
I've experienced very little lag, during times when you'd expect very heavy multi-tasking.
The downside is the locked bootloader and lack of firmware updates that Moto displays.
As for battery life, I've had decent results. Most older handsets I used to worry about switching down to 2G to extend the battery life.
Using Setvsel I usually have it clocked at 600mhz and undervolted and everything still runs really smooth.
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I am looking at getting this phone on my next contract upgrade, its either the defy or htc desire can anyone point me in the right direction ?
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They're both nice and in performance I think they're roughly equal except the Defy graphics are better and has better battery life.
The Desire will serve you better for Custom ROMs and firmware updates if that's you're main priority. Don't expect the Defy to get anything past FroYo.
As it looks like you're on T-mobile, I'd aim to go through retentions when it comes to upgrade time and back yourself a good deal.
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I am looking at getting this phone on my next contract upgrade, its either the defy or htc desire can anyone point me in the right direction ?
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Bearing in mind that you're posting in the Motorola Defy section, you're probably not going to get particularly unbiased advice...
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I'm really glad I switched from the Samsung Galaxy S, even though the processor + graphics aren't as good I feel the Defy still performs much better. Maybe that's because the Defy has more RAM?
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Maybe, if it were true.
Both have 512MB of RAM.
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Bearing in mind that you're posting in the Motorola Defy section, you're probably not going to get particularly unbiased advice...
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I posted here so i know what people who actually have the phonr think, not just people that judge it by its specs.
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I haven't really reached a limit for the defy's utility yet at 1.1GHz oc, but what I can say for certain is that the LCD's is pretty midrange and it seems that screen on really chews down the battery life as well.
I've seen worse screens (cheaper nokia phones) and better screens (AMOLED, apple iphone and ipod touch screens). It's not really a problem unless you have two or three people trying to see what's going on though.
Hi, I'm an user of an old xperia x8 and I'm thinking in upgrade to an Arc S but I need to know a few things before, like battery life and smoothness of UI in GB and ICS (I'm not planing to install custom kernel/rom).
I've watched some reviews on youtube but the only thing I see there is people scrolling through settings, app drawer, etc... I need to know how it behave in daily use based on your experiences... I hope you can help me
thanks
best regards
What is your budget first of all?
yes i recommend it for you
talking about the battery life,,,, when i bought it i had to recharge it everyday! but as time goes on the battery performance gets better. and when you update it to ICS the battery life is improved and lasts for 4 days (normal use)
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yes i recommend it for you
talking about the battery life,,,, when i bought it i had to recharge it everyday! but as time goes on the battery performance gets better. and when you update it to ICS the battery life is improved and lasts for 4 days (normal use)
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4 days???!!!!
what rom and kernel are you using?
overclocked?
what governor and scheduler?
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yes i recommend it for you
talking about the battery life,,,, when i bought it i had to recharge it everyday! but as time goes on the battery performance gets better. and when you update it to ICS the battery life is improved and lasts for 4 days (normal use)
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could you please define what does normal use mean for you if the same as for me (gmail sync on, some emails.. 15-25 as i use them instead of sms mainly, little bit of gaming like 30 minutes per day, maybe 15 minutes of talking and a couple of sms messages) then your results are astonishing... with such usage my phone struggles to stay unpluged for 20hrs.
anyway, as it was asked, on what rom and settings?!?!
thanks for your answers! well, my budget is enough to buy an xperia arc s, i really like the design (i could buy a Galaxy S but just do not like it). I need the battery to last at least 1 day (15~24 hours is acceptable) with 3g data on, email push notifications, whatsapp and little web browsing, I do not play games on my phone or listen to music. Anyone here using arc s with that kind of use?
thanks!
edit: oh well, a few calls also lol
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thanks for your answers! well, my budget is enough to buy an xperia arc s, i really like the design (i could buy a Galaxy S but just do not like it). I need the battery to last at least 1 day (15~24 hours is acceptable) with 3g data on, email push notifications, whatsapp and little web browsing, I do not play games on my phone or listen to music. Anyone here using arc s with that kind of use?
thanks!
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Well i would not recommend arc s at this moment.. i accept it is a great phone looks great but its a bit outdated at this moment.. i would ask you to buy a xperia nxt series phone..
And samsung looks ugly in my opinion.. you can also check out htc one v..
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thanks for your answers! well, my budget is enough to buy an xperia arc s, i really like the design (i could buy a Galaxy S but just do not like it). I need the battery to last at least 1 day (15~24 hours is acceptable) with 3g data on, email push notifications, whatsapp and little web browsing, I do not play games on my phone or listen to music. Anyone here using arc s with that kind of use?
thanks!
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i am sure it can handle that much of load for a day..samsung sucks..yesterday had a fight on S2 forum on the same topic..got a warning from Forum Mod too
It would be wise for now to go for Xperia P or U considering the same price as Arc S..
If you desire much for Arc S,then simply go for it!
+1 for Samsung sucks!
+1 for the same. Lol.
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Battery of arc s is I think 12 hours if u use these things n tht is enough
None phone give like tht with WiFi n 3 g
The battery is horrible and so far I've seen no actually smooth rom, not even the very stock.
Honestly,i don't recommend Arc. As said above, you should buy Xperia U or whatever.
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yes i recommend it for you
talking about the battery life,,,, when i bought it i had to recharge it everyday! but as time goes on the battery performance gets better. and when you update it to ICS the battery life is improved and lasts for 4 days (normal use)
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WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT 4DAYS
HOW COME??????????????
ArmorD said:
The battery is horrible and so far I've seen no actually smooth rom, not even the very stock.
Honestly,i don't recommend Arc. As said above, you should buy Xperia U or whatever.
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Who said so?
GB with Arconium has a terribly smooth experience!
The same with battery, i get about a whole day with a single charge which is more than enough for me and most of the people!
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This is a wonderful cell phone but if you going to buy a new cell phone im recommend to you buy Xperia S, this is a dual core and more app better than arc s
Tbh, the Xperia s is good, but not a huge leap from the arc. Dual core is used to imply better performance, but it's the context that matters. If microsecond improvements in response really matter then go for an Xperia s, but don't look for a huge difference in performance overall then unless you're a huge gaming freak with no PSP the difference will be negligible.
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Shetz said:
This is a wonderful cell phone but if you going to buy a new cell phone im recommend to you buy Xperia S, this is a dual core and more app better than arc s
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Well he said so tat his budget would be lik in a Arc S range only!
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I would a big NO...... Wait for some days and go for Samsung galaxy S3... Seriously there is a huge difference between Samsung firmwares & Sony firmwares as far stability and performance is concerned..
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I would a big NO...... Wait for some days and go for Samsung galaxy S3... Seriously there is a huge difference between Samsung firmwares & Sony firmwares as far stability and performance is concerned..
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His budget is to buy an arc.. not even close to what siii will cost.. also siii looks ugly in front of arc
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His budget is to buy an arc.. not even close to what siii will cost.. also siii looks ugly in front of arc
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Yeah of course, + 1 for Sony,
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Hi all, I bought my brand new original HTC One X 3 days ago and it got the newest android version for it, JB. But there is a big problem and it is the battery, it's just horrible to see such a awesome phone with a battery life like that. Does anyone know which things I can do to have a better battery life? I already have the almost lowest brightness, no live wallpaper and no antivirus on the phone. I also use the official energi saving function that comes with jelly bean but it doesn't even make the battery better at all, not even a little bit. Please help!!!
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Hi all, I bought my brand new original HTC One X 3 days ago and it got the newest android version for it, JB. But there is a big problem and it is the battery, it's just horrible to see such a awesome phone with a battery life like that. Does anyone know which things I can do to have a better battery life? I already have the almost lowest brightness, no live wallpaper and no antivirus on the phone. I also use the official energi saving function that comes with jelly bean but it doesn't even make the battery better at all, not even a little bit. Please help!!!
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You will find your phones battery life will improve, mine wasn't that good for the first few days.
When ever i get a new phone i always charge it over night & then when its off charge leave it till it bleeps to be put back on charge, do that for the first few times as i find it gives the best life.
Mine is very good now
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Tomb_Raider_Legend said:
Hi all, I bought my brand new original HTC One X 3 days ago and it got the newest android version for it, JB. But there is a big problem and it is the battery, it's just horrible to see such a awesome phone with a battery life like that. Does anyone know which things I can do to have a better battery life? I already have the almost lowest brightness, no live wallpaper and no antivirus on the phone. I also use the official energi saving function that comes with jelly bean but it doesn't even make the battery better at all, not even a little bit. Please help!!!
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can u say how long your on screen time or general battery life is? but at the first few times/days/weeks it's really bad but after few charge cycles it will bet better because the battery has to improve itself with the information the phone gives, you know? wait and charge and after a week or so it will be really better...
Or if you just disable google now you will be good. If you disable google maps aswell your battery life will be perfect. Something is wrong with those two
That issue is just with jelly bean
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tadas_max said:
Or if you just disable google now you will be good. If you disable google maps aswell your battery life will be perfect. Something is wrong with those two
That issue is just with jelly bean
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yup that's also right ^^
one sitvokin
It says 4H 56M on the battery but when I fully charge it and use it for 3 houres (games, music and wifi surf) and almost the whole battery is gone so I have to charge it again
And how do I disable those google things?
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It says 4H 56M on the battery but when I fully charge it and use it for 3 houres (games, music and wifi surf) and almost the whole battery is gone so I have to charge it again
And how do I disable those google things?
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if you play more then 1 hour or so then that's not so bad because if you play a game or two only from full charge you can reache 2- 2,5 hours...with games like THD games or other which make a lil bit more heat or so ....and if you play only games like solitaire for this time or so ...then that's really not normal...you know that in the hox are 4 cores and 8 gpu cores, and therefore the battery isn't like in a phone with 2,500 or more mAh because our has only 1,800 mAh ...if yo uwant to disable it press long home button and then you can press the menu button and there will be settings in that you can disable google now and for the other google things just go in settings then apps and then all apps and there you can click on any app ! but don't deactivate system apps! and if you click on them there will be a button deactivate and yes press it and it is disabled
I usually play Dead Space but not for more than 20 minutes because the phone heats up like hell -.- And I disabled google now hope the battery will be a little bit better, but any more ideas how I can get better battery life please
With my HOX, I found having brightness at 60% or less made the biggest impact. Also, disabling wifi when not needed made a huge difference. Decrease the time between auto syncs, and also check for wakelocks. Might have an app waking the phone a lot.
But I do understand where you are coming from. The battery life was killing me also, so I bought a Note 2 as a primary phone and now use the HOX as a music player for which it is outstanding haha
the first time the battery is always bad ._. just wait some days or so and it will be better...and look with betterbatterystats which wakelocks you have then you can see which apps might make the battery life also more worse...
Thank you very much I will try them, the battery seems to be a little bit better when I turned Google Now off
i have the AT&T HTC ONE XL (L For LTE)
has the Dual Core Snapdragon and i say the battery is better lasting than ones with out the Dual Core CPUs
markjcc said:
i have the AT&T HTC ONE XL (L For LTE)
has the Dual Core Snapdragon and i say the battery is better lasting than ones with out the Dual Core CPUs
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Pretty obvious, isn't it? Plus the Snapdragon S4 Krait has a better manufacturing process (I think 32nm) compared to Tegra 3's 40nm process, so it's more efficient and less power hungry.
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To sum up. You want good battery go back to keypad £20 Nokia or Alcatel phones.
Smartphones will be pants for years to come
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With normal usage... Talk, wifi, handset Bluetooth... I only put my hox to charge wen it gow out of power. And my batery goes between 2 and 3 days. without gaming just regular usage...
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arknailed7754 said:
To sum up. You want good battery go back to keypad £20 Nokia or Alcatel phones.
Smartphones will be pants for years to come
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Not true. Look at the RAZR Maxx. If Motorola can put such a huge battery in a thin phone, there's no reason other manufacturers can't. Also, it was definitely possible to put a bugger battery in the One X, but HTC just didn't do it. They instead released One X+ sometime later and claimed better battery life as a 'feature'. That's just wrong, and very similar Motorola releasing the RAZR, and then the RAZR Maxx soon after. The phone should have had that battery since the start. The only reason I can find with Motorola is that the RAZR is slightly thinner for those who want it that way. But the One X and One X+ have 0 design difference.
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My point was in comparison to old phones.it'll be a long time before we get as good batrery life as on old phones. Reason being smArt phones just do to much nowadays..many forgetting it's actual purpose
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Just don't forget that the T3 is a pretty "old" chip, it needs a lot of power.
Nevertheless, I think the One X isn't that bad regarding battery life. It will drain quickly if you start gaming, but you should expect that. It's no gaming device, it's still a smartphone. Of course you can play your games every now and then but if you expect you can game with that thing for hours without getting it to heat up or charge it in the meantime, you put your money on the wrong device
Hi guys.
I cannot disable Google Now. In my Settings there is nothing like that?
Stock ICS ROM.
Help pls. Thnx a lot.
xsardax said:
Hi guys.
I cannot disable Google Now. In my Settings there is nothing like that?
Stock ICS ROM.
Help pls. Thnx a lot.
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There's no Google Now in ICS.
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I've been migrating from many ROMs and I noticed that stock Sony ROM has a significantly better battery. Even though stock Sony has a lot of bloatware it performs better but AOSP ROMs are a lot smoother. I heavily use my phone with the screen on more than three hours and WiFi on.Has anyone other than me noticed that? Or is it just me.
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I've been migrating from many ROMs and I noticed that stock Sony ROM has a significantly better battery. Even though stock Sony has a lot of bloatware it performs better but AOSP ROMs are a lot smoother. I heavily use my phone with the screen on more than three hours and WiFi on.Has anyone other than me noticed that? Or is it just me.
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yup me too, all jb 4.2.2 ROMS including CM builds and AOSP seem to drain a lot faster even on idle conditions. But i found paranoid android 2.57 jb 4.1.2 far better as far as battery is concerned and maybe better than stock and at the same time fluid and smooth.
lewis021 said:
I've been migrating from many ROMs and I noticed that stock Sony ROM has a significantly better battery. Even though stock Sony has a lot of bloatware it performs better but AOSP ROMs are a lot smoother. I heavily use my phone with the screen on more than three hours and WiFi on.Has anyone other than me noticed that? Or is it just me.
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I have xperia ion LT28at (at&t unlocked). I made the phone rooted and deleted some bloatwares with Link2SD software. There are many bloatwares like At&t related ones. Today I am trying the phone with full battery .
see the pic.
This is the minimal use of my phone after deleting bloatwares in stock rom. It is around 13,5 hours. Brightness was %15~20.
Here is the picture.
So,
How can I extend the battery life?
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This is the minimal use of my phone after deleting bloatwares in stock rom. It is around 13,5 hours. Brightness was %15~20.
Here is the picture.
So,
How can I extend the battery life?
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What was the screen display time during this battery period?
auni said:
What was the screen display time during this battery period?
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it wasnt much. i mostly kept the phone screen off to determine the battery life of this new phone. I bought this phone 2 weeks ago. and still same low battery life.
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it wasnt much. i mostly kept the phone screen off to determine the battery life of this new phone. I bought this phone 2 weeks ago. and still same low battery life.
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If you press "screen" in that battery stats menu you've just shown us, you can see the time that screen was on. That was what we'd like to see to determine if you battery life is abnormal compared to others. What you're showing doesn't tell us a lot. 13 hours is not much, but everyone has a different idea of what "not using the phone much" is.
What would your guess be for screen time, 2 hours, 3 hours?
Anyway, 13 hours is not much, your phone should be able to do much better if you didn't play any games. It really depends in Android what apps you have installed, because some bad apps drain battery in the background.
zedonetx said:
it wasnt much. i mostly kept the phone screen off to determine the battery life of this new phone. I bought this phone 2 weeks ago. and still same low battery life.
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Give couple of more weeks to the phone. Charge more. Usually all the Xperia gives better result after few full charge cycles. And battery life varies actually.
Read the Battery life Thread available in General Section. You should find several tweaks and tips from the other users.
I have the same problem, on stock rom i had something like 0,5% battery drain per hour, on AOSP/ Jelly Bean roms i have 2~4% per hour...
I had 50% of battery at the end of the day. I just used my phone for SMS and calls, no wifi no mobile data 30% screen brightness and on 2G .
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I had 50% of battery at the end of the day. I just used my phone for SMS and calls, no wifi no mobile data 30% screen brightness and on 2G .
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Exactly...if i use 3g....my battery drains alot...2g saves battery
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I know this is probably crazy sounding to some but I just got my Xperia ZL c6506 in the mail yesterday but haven't unboxed it because I read several threads the day before about it having battery issues and not coming back on....At first I thought it was a small issue but apparently there are several of these phones that have had this issue. I would appreciate some feedback now before I open the box....
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I know this is probably crazy sounding to some but I just got my Xperia ZL c6506 in the mail yesterday but haven't unboxed it because I read several threads the day before about it having battery issues and not coming back on....At first I thought it was a small issue but apparently there are several of these phones that have had this issue. I would appreciate some feedback now before I open the box....
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Dude
No cell phone is free of problems ot doesnot mean we stop buying them n using them..go ahead open it up n.emerse in the world of xperia..not to worry
Its a masterpiece n u wont b dissappointed with it...gud luck
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unmaskedfalesh said:
Dude
No cell phone is free of problems ot doesnot mean we stop buying them n using them..go ahead open it up n.emerse in the world of xperia..not to worry
Its a masterpiece n u wont b dissappointed with it...gud luck
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LOL...I want to bad but I keep looking at that Nexus 5 thats out and can't make up my mind.....Thanks for your input, I do appreciate it.
devo3d said:
LOL...I want to bad but I keep looking at that Nexus 5 thats out and can't make up my mind.....Thanks for your input, I do appreciate it.
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Really, my review on 7 months usage. Battery good, for a 5 incher phone totally depends on your usage( working days i get 2 days) weekends i have to charge at least twice a day. some heating issues( which is found in most of the devices),
Some Official Issues
IR blaster Manual function doesnt really work ( I have this, officially they don even know whats the problem with it)
Constant Mic issues, and ear piece issue (during Call) (I have mic issue)
Screen flickering (Fixed in update) but not for all.
Camera Black Spots (Again not For All)
And Right now my phone is under repair for Mic and IR Issue.
These are only negatives, now decide yourselves
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Really, my review on 7 months usage. Battery good, for a 5 incher phone totally depends on your usage( working days i get 2 days) weekends i have to charge at least twice a day. some heating issues( which is found in most of the devices),
Some Official Issues
IR blaster Manual function doesnt really work ( I have this, officially they don even know whats the problem with it)
Constant Mic issues, and ear piece issue (during Call) (I have mic issue)
Screen flickering (Fixed in update) but not for all.
Camera Black Spots (Again not For All)
And Right now my phone is under repair for Mic and IR Issue.
These are only negatives, now decide yourselves
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Thank you, your input is very helpful. I've read about those issues also. This phone seems to have more bugs than the original XZ.
I sure hate to get rid of it...its such a pretty phone and well engineered. All the bugs seem to be from manufacturing, that would be quality control on the companies I guess. Sony should have done better with this being the so called successor to the Z.
I want to sell mine and buy a Nexus 5, pretty good phone
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Well i can say my xperia ZL C6502 dont have any of does issues mentioned. no flickering, IR blaster work perfect, no black pixels on camera, great battery, mic, speaker and earpiece are working perfect. and not heating issues also. i just really love it.
I can confirm what the poster above me said. Back when I had stock rom installed, I could use IR blaster on different devices and even let it learn new commands, no single problem.
And the heating issue some are facing, it's due to the poor coded rom... If you install CM10.2 it takes your phone way longer to heat up.
maclancer said:
I want to sell mine and buy a Nexus 5, pretty good phone
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I guess we'll both have to wait in line....Google is sold out and Ebay's prices are through the roof. :silly:
danieldp1990 said:
Well i can say my xperia ZL C6502 dont have any of does issues mentioned. no flickering, IR blaster work perfect, no black pixels on camera, great battery, mic, speaker and earpiece are working perfect. and not heating issues also. i just really love it.
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I wonder what the differences are in the two models that have such a swing on problems? I got the 6506 for the LTE band....Straight Talk has LTE now and its Prepay...I used it on my ONE X+ and it was great.
einfachgaer said:
I can confirm what the poster above me said. Back when I had stock rom installed, I could use IR blaster on different devices and even let it learn new commands, no single problem.
And the heating issue some are facing, it's due to the poor coded rom... If you install CM10.2 it takes your phone way longer to heat up.
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I love the feel of the phone and the features are pretty cool too....Crap, I'm just having a hard time deciding....LOL
ZL C6503 here.
On .423 stock rom (rooted) everything worked fine, no flickering, no fc's and nice camera quality.
Battery drain wasn't that high neither.
A few days ago I updated to .67 stock rom (also rooted, no other mods installed), suddenly the battery drain was crazy high, even with stamina mode enabled.
I think the problem is not on hardware side, its the poor coded rom. Most problems are software related (at least for me). Some updates seem to behave more like downgrades... For now the most stable rom was .423.
If you don't mind unlocking your bootloader (make TA backup first!), PAC rom should be the best option. It's stable as rock, gives you Android 4.3 features and the battery seems to live longer than on any stock rom.
And for the heating issue: modern 4-core-1080p-devices always struggle with heat to some extent. Depends on screen brightness and the software and games you're running.
Overall the ZL is the best phone I've ever had. It's fast, it's 'small' and packs all the goodies you like
I like the 5 incher compact size of the Xperia ZL. i believe it is the smallest available today with the thin vessel it really looks very sleek. Well that's me, form and function, it completely covers both.
I bought a 6506 - primarily because it was available for a good price...
Performance seems pretty reasonable on a "quasi" stock rom... it does heat up for me when I'm charging it and doing something - like right now I'm making a backup... that seems to heat up pretty well.
Battery drain doesn't seem too bad...
LTE performance is pretty decent... download speeds aren't terribly high in my area (range from ~ 20mb/s to ~ 26mb/s... but uploads range from ~ 6mb/s to 14mb/s... that's a significant increase from what I was getting before.
I'm unsure if I'll keep this for very long or not... I've already created a TA backup... and I'm seriously considering testing cm10.2 or some other rom...
I've had my C6506 for over half a year now, it was in perfect condition out of the box and everything worked great. LTE was nice and fast depending on coverage.
Currently using Omni ROM 4.4, it's IMO the best ROM for the phone right now, the performance is absolutely great, it feels almost like a new phone again. Everything is snappy which was an issue I had with other 4.3 based roms, they just seemed to have little pockets of lag here and there that while they were easy to ignore at the time, once I switched to 4.4 it definitely became noticeably better.
Google implemented IR support so hopefully we'll see that put to use soon for AOSP roms.
Battery life has been pretty good, I'm able to average 10-16 hours during a regular work day depending on usage, if I'm at home using only the wifi I can easily get atleast 20 hours.
I've found the phone only heats up during a few scenarios: Charging the battery, browsing the web at max brightness for an extended period of time(30+ minutes), watching videos or playing a game, and even then, the phone never gets to unbearable heat.
I would highly recommend switching to Omni ROM 4.4, but whether or not the Sony exclusive stuff is worthwhile is up to you.
For me the Sony stuff isn't worthwhile because when I first got my phone backing up the TA partition wasn't widespread knowledge, so I'll never get the DRM locked stuff again.
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I've had my C6506 for over half a year now, it was in perfect condition out of the box and everything worked great. LTE was nice and fast depending on coverage.
Currently using Omni ROM 4.4, it's IMO the best ROM for the phone right now, the performance is absolutely great, it feels almost like a new phone again. Everything is snappy which was an issue I had with other 4.3 based roms, they just seemed to have little pockets of lag here and there that while they were easy to ignore at the time, once I switched to 4.4 it definitely became noticeably better.
Google implemented IR support so hopefully we'll see that put to use soon for AOSP roms.
Battery life has been pretty good, I'm able to average 10-16 hours during a regular work day depending on usage, if I'm at home using only the wifi I can easily get atleast 20 hours.
I've found the phone only heats up during a few scenarios: Charging the battery, browsing the web at max brightness for an extended period of time(30+ minutes), watching videos or playing a game, and even then, the phone never gets to unbearable heat.
I would highly recommend switching to Omni ROM 4.4, but whether or not the Sony exclusive stuff is worthwhile is up to you.
For me the Sony stuff isn't worthwhile because when I first got my phone backing up the TA partition wasn't widespread knowledge, so I'll never get the DRM locked stuff again.
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After reading your comments I might have to give that a try...
Somehow I don't think today will be the day to try 4.4 on my phone...
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I traded my galaxy S3 for the ZL. Loving it so far. Phone display is amazing and the design is sleek. Battery life is far better than S3 and I love the stock ROM very much. With S3 i've had so many lauchers and apps to make the phone look good. But with ZL I'm just using the stock ROM..everything just works the way i want..
I would definitely keep this phone..
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LOL...I want to bad but I keep looking at that Nexus 5 thats out and can't make up my mind.....Thanks for your input, I do appreciate it.
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I bought a Nexus 5 and sold it 3 days later - it was smooth, and I mean pretty darn smooth in the OS, but the ZL beat it in too many ways.
Better Camera, better external speaker, IR Blaster...
I was really excited for the Nexus 5 but i liked my ZL more...and I can't even unlock the bootloader on my ZL.
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After reading your comments I might have to give that a try...
Somehow I don't think today will be the day to try 4.4 on my phone...
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Only thing that concerns me is that I don't know if the AOSP camera app is as good as the stock camera app, it's still gonna take good photos but it's been a long time since I've had stock so I can't really compare. Could be just be me being paranoid lol.
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Only thing that concerns me is that I don't know if the AOSP camera app is as good as the stock camera app, it's still gonna take good photos but it's been a long time since I've had stock so I can't really compare. Could be just be me being paranoid lol.
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No clue on that one...
I know they had some serious issues there for a while...