Anyone come from other android devices and have opinions on performance, usability, signal, battery life, etc? I'm considering jumping ship from a nexus s. Primarily for the size and battery life, if it is as good as I hear.
Anyone comment on pros/cons vs other android devices you have owned?
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Well, I just had 1 smartphone before the Defy, which was a Samsung Galaxy Spica - an Android device as well. It was a piece of ****, often crashing multiple times a day at random, problems with WiFi switching (sometimes causing a system crash) and mobile connectivity (no INet axx occasionally) as well as numerous other issues. These occured using the original firmware. Because of the instability it was basically unusable.
I'm really happy I switched to the Defy, because its a reliable phone, fast and you can actually play some games on it - another thing that was barely possible on the Spica.
Ill totally trade my defy for your nexus s xD
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Ill totally trade my defy for your nexus s xD
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Doesnt help me until you tell me why
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Defy has incredible battery life, sound, touch accuracy. Invincible exterior and nice contour design.
Good rom support and great signal.
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Motorola has a locked bootloader. About the only thing bad about this phone.
Compared to the nexus S, slower processor and inferior graphics. I got it because it was incredibly cheap for the performance.
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Motorola has a locked bootloader. About the only thing bad about this phone.
Compared to the nexus S, slower processor and inferior graphics. I got it because it was incredibly cheap for the performance.
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That seems a pretty fair summary.
Though I'd add that whilst the CPU/GPU does sit beneath the Nexus S's performance-wise, it's certainly not an under-powered handset.
The battery is really impressive - I get anywhere between 2 and 4 days, depending on how heavily I use it.
I came from an XT701 moto phone. The specs much lower on that phone and u notice the improved performance with the DEFY. one thing the XT701 was better was camera... very nice xenon!
But the DEFY is much better... much more internal memory, much faster, screen doesn't scratch, have dropped it numerous times... not a single scratch, I scratched up my old phone in 6 months.
I've also done the water testing at the pub and it wasfully submerged in a jug of water... and survived, many in the crowd VERY IMPRESSED!
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Anyone have any lag?
Never lol
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Anyone have any lag?
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The Motoblur launcher seems a little laggy. Switched to GoLauncher EX, and it's smooth as. LauncherPro is even smoother, but I prefer Go.
I literally JUST rooted and overclocked it to 1GHz. Pretty easy procedure and runs smoother. It's a really good phone, especially for the price point. Add in the fact that its waterproof and pretty much indestructible makes it awesome.
I am looking at getting this phone on my next contract upgrade, its either the defy or htc desire can anyone point me in the right direction ?
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when overclocking, do you lose any battery life? Don't you lose the blur widgets on another launcher? What do the variety of roms out there provide?
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when overclocking, do you lose any battery life? Don't you lose the blur widgets on another launcher? What do the variety of roms out there provide?
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I'm still on the standard ROM (2.1), just rooted with SuperOneClick, and using SetVsel to overclock. It's scaleable, and I've noticed better battery life when the phone is on standby (SetVsel settings are force 300MHz when screen off), but it does seem to drain more when used (vsel at 1.1GHz I have as the same as it was at stock 800MHz). Haven't noticed any instability.
I havn't played around with any ROMs yet, I just don't want to waste any more time
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I am looking at getting this phone on my next contract upgrade, its either the defy or htc desire can anyone point me in the right direction ?
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This is a good phone, but I'd go for the desire. The reason I got this is because I bought it sim-free, and the desire was about £350, whilst this was £270.
My first Android phone was the G1, then followed by Moto Cliq, HTC Hero, Sony Ericsson X10 Mini Pro and most recently Samsung Galaxy S.
I'm really glad I switched from the Samsung Galaxy S, even though the processor + graphics aren't as good I feel the Defy still performs much better. Maybe that's because the Defy has more RAM?
I've experienced very little lag, during times when you'd expect very heavy multi-tasking.
The downside is the locked bootloader and lack of firmware updates that Moto displays.
As for battery life, I've had decent results. Most older handsets I used to worry about switching down to 2G to extend the battery life.
Using Setvsel I usually have it clocked at 600mhz and undervolted and everything still runs really smooth.
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I am looking at getting this phone on my next contract upgrade, its either the defy or htc desire can anyone point me in the right direction ?
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They're both nice and in performance I think they're roughly equal except the Defy graphics are better and has better battery life.
The Desire will serve you better for Custom ROMs and firmware updates if that's you're main priority. Don't expect the Defy to get anything past FroYo.
As it looks like you're on T-mobile, I'd aim to go through retentions when it comes to upgrade time and back yourself a good deal.
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I am looking at getting this phone on my next contract upgrade, its either the defy or htc desire can anyone point me in the right direction ?
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Bearing in mind that you're posting in the Motorola Defy section, you're probably not going to get particularly unbiased advice...
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I'm really glad I switched from the Samsung Galaxy S, even though the processor + graphics aren't as good I feel the Defy still performs much better. Maybe that's because the Defy has more RAM?
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Maybe, if it were true.
Both have 512MB of RAM.
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Bearing in mind that you're posting in the Motorola Defy section, you're probably not going to get particularly unbiased advice...
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I posted here so i know what people who actually have the phonr think, not just people that judge it by its specs.
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I haven't really reached a limit for the defy's utility yet at 1.1GHz oc, but what I can say for certain is that the LCD's is pretty midrange and it seems that screen on really chews down the battery life as well.
I've seen worse screens (cheaper nokia phones) and better screens (AMOLED, apple iphone and ipod touch screens). It's not really a problem unless you have two or three people trying to see what's going on though.
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After flashing, re flashing and re re flashing so many times.... now atleast i have gone bored of the HTC Desire. This is mainly because there are not many good quality apps specially games. I am no Apple fanboy but the app store is something that android doesnt looks like achieving pretty soon.
The main things i like in HTC Desire are as following:-
1) Wifi Hotspot. WOW! thats so cool
2) being able to customize it as u want it to with widgets.
3) FRIENDSTREAM WIDGET its simply awesome
4) weather animations
Thats all.
The major things i dont like are:-
1) Camera. its just ok, not that good.
2) battery.... it drains battery as if its hungry all the time
3) no good games/apps
So what do you have to say? Are you still happy with the Desire or are you planning to go with something else?
As far as i am concerned i have decided to sell it very soon.... but wifi hotspot feature is what i love the most.
If you want to play games get a DS
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Angry Birds, Doodle Jump, Abducted, Alchemy... they are the best games I've installed on my phone
Kept me busy for a good while!
On top of that there's all the emulators - now they aren't so hot for action (but probably better with wiimote add in) games, but for some others they work just fine!
I love my Desire - before that I had the WM HTC Touch HD, now that has a serious lack of games... the best I found was solitaire or ScummVM...
I have to agree, there are not so many really good games in the market right now. But I'm sure this will change. Many surveys etc. suggest more and more developers of mobile application and games are considering developing for android, and seeing as the number of android phones rises continually I think the growing market will attract more and more developers. So I guess you just have to hang in there untill then
Yes I agree there are few game the ones u listed. But they completed and then what after that? Same boring things. When will we have more stuff. Android platform is awesome but.....
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If you want to play games get a DS
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We take a multimedia phone so that we have everything in it. Isn't it?
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We take a multimedia phone so that we have everything in it. Isn't it?
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good point, but as you said its a multimedia phone, emphasis being on a phone, you say there are no good games but what are you comparing this too? a ds? a psp? these are dedicated gaming machines and therefore will always have the upper hand, as other mobile platforms go the games on android are quite good, just check out the gameloft HD series and others like NFS Shift
Rooting and installing a custom ROM is the answer, that is what makes the desires one of the best PDA's on the market nowadays even better than the iPhone I would say.
I have been an iPhone user for the last 2 years I just love how many more things I can do with my desire.
And if the battery issue is a problem try custom kernels, they work great
have tried custom roms... almost all good ones. but the battery problem still persists. actually by reading at various sites like engadget i came to know that the battery drain problem is actually of android os itself. hmmmm....
I was happy until the random reboots started and I cannot send it to service so I am stuck at using it as rare as possible since every time I use it to much it reboots and then gets stuck at the white HTC screen and I have to reinstall the ROM to be able to boot again.
I like(d) it alot, and am thinking of getting another Desire. Or getting a completely different company device. Still confused
Battery drain is not a problem at all. Just compare to other os and you'll see that the situation is better on Android os due to custom kernels and cpu dynamic speed adjusting.
I agree with the battery drain issue, and the touch feeling of screen is not better than IP4
lots of nice games on android you just need to know how to hunt them
with froyo the touch responsiveness is equal to the iphone 4, SLCD desire is pretty close to IP4 screen quality too, a little less density but better colors, the IP4 screen is also much closer to the surface which is nice but ours is a little bigger
my fav game is asphalt 5 but i keep loosing my save game due to messing with my rom
another very impressive game i'm hooked at is panzer panic
also minisquadron, hyperjump, meteor blitz, heavy gunner, backbreaker, need for speed shift and hero of sparta all very impressive
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have tried custom roms... almost all good ones. but the battery problem still persists. actually by reading at various sites like engadget i came to know that the battery drain problem is actually of android os itself. hmmmm....
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I am atm using Deforst with 1113 HAVS kernel and setin SetCpu to 1113 MHZ and I can tell you my battery life is much much better than when running stock froyo
one more thing i'm taking great pictures with the default camera app, you just need to know how to handle it's settings, for example i set sharpness to -2 which removes all the digital treatment ie over sharpness, also set colors and brightness + 1 and of course choosing correcting ISO at night
people are often just blindly impressed by the iphone 4 pics but compare them side by side and you will notice horrible performance at night from the iphone 4 and horrible of noise even at indoor daylight, even the colors produced by the iphone 4 camera are unreal
only two wins for the iphone 4 cam for me, the flawless 720p and HDR
If you really want them in a phone buy and iPhone 4 and jailbreak it for the WiFi hotspot?
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If you really want them in a phone buy and iPhone 4 and jailbreak it for the WiFi hotspot?
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did i read it for real or am i dreaming!!! wifi hotspot can be achieved in the iphone!! thats cool does it works with 3gs too?
ahhhh but then there is no bluetooth. iBluetooth... i used it when i had 3g... but thats no good at all.
desire is still good. but just now had a look at winphone 7 devices. awesomeness redefined
i am a fairly heavy user and get 2 days worth of battery out of mine, if i dont use wifi i am on 3 days. The iphone4 is just as hungry when it comes to battery
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i am a fairly heavy user and get 2 days worth of battery out of mine, if i dont use wifi i am on 3 days. The iphone4 is just as hungry when it comes to battery
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oh REALLY!!!! i dont get more than 1 day... even i have to charge 2-3 times a day. well... very soon, maybe, i will get a new phone. maybe windows phone 7. but it has lots of limitations just like iphone....
lets see.... what happens
My brother agreed to give me the upgrade on his line if I gave him my inc. So i would also have another upgrade in June 2012 so should I upgrade to the thunderbolt or keep my dinc? I'm looking for some advise as to what I should do.
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I say wait...there are a lot of new phones coming out. The thunderbolt wouldn't be worth it to me.
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I agree. The Thunderbolt is not dual-core. Plus Verizon will be getting the Xperia Play and other great phones. Including some great dual-core phones.
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If it was me I would probably wait for a dual core phone with LTE. My girlfriend has the Thunderbolt and it is not much better than my Incredible other that has the big screen that I like.
I say wait too for something with dual core, 3d cam?, and something with a battery that last longer than 3 hours
Seems as though everybody would rather wait. Lol. Seems like an easy enough decision.
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I would hold out although for you it's probably easier said than done. Hard to resist I'm sure!
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I too would wait.
I have to ask, what is the big deal about dual core processors? I mean, what are we expecting these new phones to be able to perform that our Droid Incredible can't?
I just picked up a DInc for the wife, and we now have a TBolt sitting around playing Pandora in the kitchen.
She hated it, ( TB ) but being that it was the 2nd phone she got ( she returned the iPhone ) she's stuck with it. She tried to tell me that she would give me the TB for my DInc, but I really like mine and an not willing to part with it just yet.
Long short I traded my old Eris + a ridiculously small amount of cash for what appears to be a almost new DInc and she seems to be happy with it...
For now...
So, I'd wait
Watch this video. Both of these are dual-core. Super fast compared to the incredible.
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i say wait. thunderbolt looks nice but it's not a major upgrade, especially if you're not in a LTE coverage area.
i'm holding my upgrade for the bionic or for the next HTC LTE phone, whichever come first.
The new Sense 3.0 ROMS are keeping me pretty busy that last few days and also has made it a lot easier to not want a new phone right away. Its almost like getting a new one!
I craved the Thunderbolt. I watched forums on it daily during the whole Thundergate release date situation. I finally got tired of waiting. Ended up spending the $700 on a set of recliners instead (I was going to pay full price for the TB).
Then I started sniffing around the DINC2. Same specs as TB only 4" display and no LTE. Not too shabby. Only problem I've been hearing, locked bootloader? Ugh.
i own a new Thunderbolt, and even thought the specs don't look like an improvement they really are. And even though dual core is out there, the test beween dual and single aren't that far off from each other.
Quadrant scores (which is yes invaild technically) at 1.4 oc 2690, but mostly at 2100-2300
Positives
-more ram (768 mb), which makes a insane difference, almost never lags.
-The cpu is 1 ghz but can safely over clock to 1.4 (because qualcomm has stated it is stable clock from 800mhz-1.41 ghz) and i even got it stable at 1.8
-comes preloaded with 32 gb card, nice plus. and even thought it says 8 emmc, it only has 2.8 GB or something to work with, what is still a good amount.
-screen is gorilla glass, so its tough and durable.
-camera 720p recording (rumors of 1080p with new sense roms)
-if u want to video chat then yes this phone has a front camera thats always nice.
-Even though the screen is big, it doesn't feel it. because got some width instead of just length like droid x it looks smaller.
-And o yea LTE which is insane, almost as good as Wifi N in some areas.
Negatives
-Battery Battery Battery Battery Battery SUCKS. But i upgraded to ginersense 2.1/3.0 mods and my battery life is insanely good all of a sudden.
-$250 for a phone is expensive, But Samsung LTE Charge is 300 and tech specs are same if not worse in some aspects.
-Stock comes with 2.2 but with root gingerbread is easily available.
But with any phone you got to buy it for your needs, so if you need battery throughout the day, dont even bother, but if you can lug around batteries or chargers, its a must upgrade.
Wait for sure.
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yea definitely would wait. i have a feeling this summer we will get some sweet dual core phones, and there isnt any point in getting anything less than the best out there.
+1 for waiting. I'm perfectly happy with my Dinc until something with better hardware comes along.
Oh yeah, just wait. It's what I'd do if I had the option.
Agree
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yea definitely would wait. i have a feeling this summer we will get some sweet dual core phones, and there isnt any point in getting anything less than the best out there.
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My brother has a Thunderbolt, it's pretty nice. As long as you root it, and do a few tweaks with lower voltages the battery life is pretty good (better than my incredible), but once you turn 4G on it'll be significantly worse.
I'd still say wait, unless you really want to jump into a new phone. Who knows when another comparable phone will come out.
The Thunderbolt is pretty large too, some people like that since it'll be easier to do things on- but personally I find it just more of a hassle to carry around.
Hi all,
Im in the process of getting a new contract, and I have 2 options, the Galaxy W or HTC desire S, I was going to get the desire S until i saw the W, hwt ado you alll think,
I compared the two and it was a tie on here
http://geekaphone.com/compare/Samsung-GALAXY-W-vs-HTC-Desire-S
Also will the W be getting ICS?
Thanks.
Well from my expwrience with the W (and having a friend with the DesireS) I can say that I'm really satisfied with my purchase.
The phone itself is pretty speedy (and even speedier if you root it and uninstall the Samsung bloatware plus anything that you don't need) and quite nice to held in hand.
As far as I know it won't get the ICS update, at least officially.
But who cares, in CyanogenMod we trust.
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I don't yet hava a smartphone and I had the same dilemma...
As far as I can tell the Desire S only advantage is the bigger ram, but the Galaxy W has a newer technology as the blutooth, flash, browser and codecs support.
I will know if my decision was good by the end of the week.
anyway, i couldn't find a batter "bang for the buck" in that price range...
I had a long hard look at both these phones before I ended up buying the Galaxy W.
The Desire S is much more well built, but that made it very heavy.
The screen is better on the W than the DS. It just looks much more crisp.
The glass is also alot smooth on the W, no smudge stays after a quick wipe. I hear it is also Gorilla Glass alternative from Samsung. Very impressed.
The W doesnt have a LED notification light, which is annoying.
The W is much faster in terms of CPU, opening the browser for instance was quicker on the W than the DS, but the DS has a much better UI, Sense is far better than TouchWiz.
Battery life on the W is good once you remove the bloat. I get well over 20hrs, that includes calls and gaming.
The W feels plastic'y but not bad due to how light it is. Like a feather.
There is far more community support for the DS than the W, but as you can see we are growing
All in all, both phones are great, but the extra CPU grunt makes it a winner for the W.
Vyker you I couldn't have described it better. Excellent comparison.
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what about the ore RAM u get with the Desire S? it is not a big-a-deal?
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what about the ore RAM u get with the Desire S? it is not a big-a-deal?
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Depends on what you think RAM is?
Yes, it is true to say, "the more the better".
But what does it actually mean to the end user, trying to make a phone call, or play a quick round of a game?
The reality is, 512Mb of RAM on the SGW is more than enough. If used correctly, you should have about 50Mb free at all times, this means that you are using the RAM as intended, to run your phone.
I have on my phone, about 13 applications running all the time, and have 50Mb free. I would rather have only 10-20Mb free, as this means more has been given to make sure my phone runs smoothly.
There are mis-conceptions that "OMFG I only have 20mb left, this phone is ****" are wrong. It doesn't mean you dont have enough. It just means it is being used correctly.
Anyhow, for Gingerbread, 512Mb is perfectly fine to run your phone and your apps. It won't be slow! Don't worry.
You will notice a drop in performance because of CPU clock speed [[email protected] and [email protected]] more than you would because of less RAM. Bear that in mind!
Good Luck!
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I had a long hard look at both these phones before I ended up buying the Galaxy W.
The Desire S is much more well built, but that made it very heavy.
The screen is better on the W than the DS. It just looks much more crisp.
The glass is also alot smooth on the W, no smudge stays after a quick wipe. I hear it is also Gorilla Glass alternative from Samsung. Very impressed.
The W doesnt have a LED notification light, which is annoying.
The W is much faster in terms of CPU, opening the browser for instance was quicker on the W than the DS, but the DS has a much better UI, Sense is far better than TouchWiz.
Battery life on the W is good once you remove the bloat. I get well over 20hrs, that includes calls and gaming.
The W feels plastic'y but not bad due to how light it is. Like a feather.
There is far more community support for the DS than the W, but as you can see we are growing
All in all, both phones are great, but the extra CPU grunt makes it a winner for the W.
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"Battery life on the W is good once you remove the bloat. I get well over 20hrs, that includes calls and gaming."
I'd really be grateful if you could explain a bit more what else you've done to acheive this...because I've also rooted and frozen several system apps just as you advised, following the spreadsheet you gave...but I'm getting no significant improvement in battery life(I'm still around 10hrs on moderate usage with Juice Defender). I AM getting a much smoother experience though. I'm still on stock EU ROM KKL3 by the way. Glad for the help
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Congratulations
Just to share in high hope I am not alone :
I have been using Juice Defender on my HTC Tattoo until now with my SGW i8150 and decided to stop using it and I noticed a change of the battery life as below :
- It seems that the battery lasts even longer
- I am on Unlimited Data
I have not made any further test n I will soon here
2g11, I'd start by removing Juice defender.
One of the best battery savers in Android is to have no "ongoing notification" apps.
In other words, dont let any app running constantly in your notification bar.
The only apps I have running constantly are message apps [SMS, GMail, WhatsApp] and widgets. Everything is not needed.
Since I moved to GO Launcher EX, and stopped using TouchWiz, I've noticed my battery life got worse. So if you use any other Launcher, switch back to TouchWiz.
Hi guys,
Just did a little experiment and needless to say, the results arent surprising. I unfroze all the bloat, unrooted and tadaaa!!....my SGW back to the 'respectable' battery life I used to have with Juice Defender!! This could mean:
1) With the root access, certain apps just override juice defender and switch on the data link at will...OR
2) I dont have a clue..any ideas guys?
BTW: I emailed JD about my experience..still waiting for response
I'm beginning to think I might have to root, freeze the apps then unroot to get the best performance and battery, but will that work?
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Why freeze when you can just back them up and uninstall right away?
At the moment I'm rooted and uninstalled all the bloatware plus other things I don't need and I get around 20+ hours of battery life with mid-high usage on mobile data (since AFAIK wireless drains a lot less battery).
I'm not that sure that rooting impacts battery life that much
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@banelicious Do you use Juice Defender?
I notice lots of people get good battery life WITHOUT juicedefender. The only decent battery life I've had (20+ hrs) was using JD. Dont know maybe I have a slightly weaker battery but I intend to install the new EU FW (XLA2), root/backup/uninstall bloat then see how the battery lasts (without JD).
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@banelicious Do you use Juice Defender?
I notice lots of people get good battery life WITHOUT juicedefender. The only decent battery life I've had (20+ hrs) was using JD. Dont know maybe I have a slightly weaker battery but I intend to install the new EU FW (XLA2), root/backup/uninstall bloat then see how the battery lasts (without JD).
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No I'm not using JD, I just uninstall ed the crap out of my phone.
The W battery is a 1700mAh one,not that bad.
I'm installing juice right now, I'll let you know how it goes
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Did you say 1700? Mine is 1500. Did you get a replacement battery or the italian version has a bigger battery? All the spec sheets I saw had 1500mAh so this is a real surprise...
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1700? you are using the original one?
1700, stock with the phone (bought in early december). I'll post a shot when I get home from work, and I'll check the manual also
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Good discussion, but just to let everyone know, I ended up getting a HTC sensation
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nice!
by the way, anyone know where to buy a good quality spare battery?
1. Battery life sucks. I had to bring a charger to work. Battery life sucks so bad that I switched back to my Thunderbolt, a phone not known for its great battery life either, but at least I'm no longer a slave monitoring my battery use. I can stream music and browse or game at the same time without needing a charger close at hand.
2. The gnex screen is a disappointment, especially at low back light levels. And I thought that SAMOLED pentile matrix screens were supposed to be energy efficient compared to normal LCD displays, but I've never seen such a battery life sucker in a phone. Inverted apps and black backgrounds don't help.
3. CDMA/LTE Radio. Not horrible, and getting better. Pretty much all if my LTE problems were network related. CDMA has been flakier for me but the 4.04 update seemed much better for the short time I used it. All CDMA/LTE combo phones suck battery life.
4. Apps/Market/ICS. So many of the games I've purchased are incompatible with the gnex its laughable. I must have $50 of games that I can't play on my gnex.
5. No good car and home docks.
This criticism post isn't meant to rile up gnex fanboys. My intention is to give valid criticism for people doing research before buying a new phone.
The VZW Nexus is a high maintenance phone, which needs users to constantly monitor battery use, make compromises on how they use their phone, and need chargers close at hand, but there are no good charging docks. Many games are incompatible with the gnex too.
So due to the hassles of using a VZW Nexus, I've gone back to my Thunderbolt as my every day phone, and my gnex has been relegated to being a mini wifi tablet that has a charger nearby.
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You lost me when you said you went back to a Thunderbolt and were previously *****ing about battery life, LTE radios, and the like.
Logical.....not.
Battery life is increased with the 4.0.4 patch.
Games not working isn't the fault of the GNex, its up to the game dev to update their game to make it work in Ice Cream Sandwich.
Poor radio...that's subjective. I get great reception in my town. Its not necessarily the phones fault you get poor signal. Also, signal strength is improved in the 4.0.4 patch.
This phone may not have the most features forever, but that's the point. Nexus phones spur innovation in the other OEM's.
Sorry you're disappointed.
Funny, I came from a Thunderbolt and I thought it had decent battery. Will disagree on the fact that this Nexus is worse than that; it's been better (much better) compared to a Tbolt.
Whatever floats your boat though. One less battery thread then I guess.
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You lost me when you said you went back to a Thunderbolt and were previously *****ing about battery life, LTE radios, and the like.
Logical.....not.
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This is the same guy that got his other thread locked because he's just bashing this phone. And going back to the thunderbolt. What a joke. Leave now plz.
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1. You're doing something wrong with your battery. I'm consistently getting 1 day on the battery and still having some juice left over, and each GNex owner I know personally is getting the same results.
2. Backlight? You do know how AMOLED works right? On power efficiency, remember how you've got an HD display on the GNex? it has more pixels to push than the TBolt. It has already been proven that "pure black" is more efficient, but no one does that. Look at the power draw of the Rezound screen, it's ugly.
You're trolling, don't pretend you aren't.
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This is the same guy that got his other thread locked because he's just bashing this phone. And going back to the thunderbolt. What a joke. Leave now plz.
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yeap, thread closed then opened another one for the same thing.. stupidity has no bounds here..
Where's operation iron fist when you need it?
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What don't you understand? I'd be happy to explain it to you.
On my thunderbolt, I was able to stream the entire Super Bowl (commercials and halftime show too) over LTE with lots of battery life to spare. With my gnex, I would have had to put it on a charger or changed the battery some time in the 3rd quarter.
With my gnex I'm constantly making compromises on my phone use. Do I want to stream music or do want to browse or game? With my thunderbolt, I don't need to worry about making those compromises, I just stream music constantly, and browse and game without constantly monitoring battery usage.
With the vzw gnex, no kernel or rom yet has really helped the battery suck, but my Bolt on stock Sense sips on the battery by comparison. And as I mentioned in my OP, the Thunderbolt isn't known for good battery life, only in a head to head comparison with the gnex does the Bolt seem to have efficient battery use.
Do you still have a Thunderbolt? Go back to using that for a week. You'll be amazed at how much more use you'll get out of it compared to the gnex.
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kurttrail said:
What don't you understand? I'd be happy to explain it to you.
On my thunderbolt, I was able to stream the entire Super Bowl (commercials and halftime show too) over LTE with lots of battery life to spare. With my gnex, I would have had to put it on a charger or changed the battery some time in the 3rd quarter.
With my gnex I'm constantly making compromises on my phone use. Do I want to stream music or do want to browse or game? With my thunderbolt, I don't need to worry about making those compromises, I just stream music constantly, and browse and game without constantly monitoring battery usage.
With the vzw gnex, no kernel or rom yet has really helped the battery suck, but my Bolt on stock Sense sips on the battery by comparison. And as I mentioned in my OP, the Thunderbolt isn't known for good battery life, only in a head to head comparison with the gnex does the Bolt seem to have efficient battery use.
Do you still have a Thunderbolt? Go back to using that for a week. You'll be amazed at how much more use you'll get out of it compared to the gnex.
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Nobody cares what phone you use or what phone you think is better. We all know you're a troll.
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spencer88 said:
This is the same guy that got his other thread locked because he's just bashing this phone. And going back to the thunderbolt. What a joke. Leave now plz.
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LOL! Its my valid criticism of the phone after using it for over a month and a half.
And I'm still using it as a mini wifi tablet.
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kurttrail said:
LOL! Its my valid criticism of the phone after using it for over a month and a half.
And I'm still using it as a mini wifi tablet.
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It's your "valid criticism" that no one cares about. Go troll the thunderbolt forums, leave the adults alone.
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Azeolus said:
1. You're doing something wrong with your battery. I'm consistently getting 1 day on the battery and still having some juice left over, and each GNex owner I know personally is getting the same results.
2. Backlight? You do know how AMOLED works right? On power efficiency, remember how you've got an HD display on the GNex? it has more pixels to push than the TBolt. It has already been proven that "pure black" is more efficient, but no one does that. Look at the power draw of the Rezound screen, it's ugly.
You're trolling, don't pretend you aren't.
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1. When I use my phone the most is over lte. I doubt you'll get that battery life the way I use my phone. I've spent the last month and a half compromising my use to the gnex's battery suck, in comparison to my phone use with my Bolt. I'm sick and tired of being a slave to monitoring battery use.
2. I've installed every inverted app that I can find. Inverted the browser, and have a pure black background. The energy savings is no more than mere minutes.
And I'm not trolling. I'm sharing my valid criticism of my gnex in comparison to my Bolt. Why can't a person do that without being called a troll?
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lrs421 said:
Where's operation iron fist when you need it?
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Iron fist? Can't a person post valid criticism in this forum without veiled threats of violence?
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kurttrail said:
Iron fist? Can't a person post valid criticism in this forum without veiled threats of violence?
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Violence????? Lol. Iron fist is XDA's garbage cleaning initiative. Sigh.
http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/operation-iron-fist-is-now-in-full-force/
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spencer88 said:
Nobody cares what phone you use or what phone you think is better. We all know you're a troll.
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Is name calling allowed in this forum? It certainly isn't on topic, which is my valid criticism of using a VZW Nexus for over a month and a half in comparison to my Bolt.
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I'm more interested to hear what the phone has to say about about you as an owner. And blame the game devs...
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lrs421 said:
It's your "valid criticism" that no one cares about. Go troll the thunderbolt forums, leave the adults alone.
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People researching their next phone purchase may care. And that's my intended audience.
With all the "I get great battery life" posts in this forum, a contrary opinion is needed, especially when you see the screen shots with hardly any display use.
I get great battery use too, in airplane mode and on standby, but if I want to use the display and 4g, the battery sucks much much faster than the same use on my Bolt. That's a fact, Jack!
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Fahrenheit said:
Battery life is increased with the 4.0.4 patch.
Games not working isn't the fault of the GNex, its up to the game dev to update their game to make it work in Ice Cream Sandwich.
Poor radio...that's subjective. I get great reception in my town. Its not necessarily the phones fault you get poor signal. Also, signal strength is improved in the 4.0.4 patch.
This phone may not have the most features forever, but that's the point. Nexus phones spur innovation in the other OEM's.
Sorry you're disappointed.
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I'm using the 4.04 leak now. CDMA Radio seems more stable. I get great LTE signal where I use my phone the most, so constantly switching radios hasn't been a problem, nor a major battery drain for me.
My problem was with CDMA flakiness when driving, but 4.04 seems to have stabilized that, which I did mention in my OP.
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bowsersoulstar said:
Funny, I came from a Thunderbolt and I thought it had decent battery. Will disagree on the fact that this Nexus is worse than that; it's been better (much better) compared to a Tbolt.
Whatever floats your boat though. One less battery thread then I guess.
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How is the VZW Nexus better than your Bolt? Please give an example on how the gnex battery usage is " much better," because I can stream music constantly while browsing or gaming for hours more on my Bolt than I can on my gnex.
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I am on stock 4.2.2 with franco.kernel r366. Most of the time it runs ok but sometimes my gnex is laggy as hell, especially whwn downloading app from the Play Store. Sometimes waking to drvice can take 3-4 seconds and sometimes even more. I am using widgetlocker. Not mentioned Chrome which is laggy too. I really can't understand why my gnex act like that... I used my friend's HTC One X and its smooth all the time.
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I am on stock 4.2.2 with franco.kernel r366. Most of the time it runs ok but sometimes my gnex is laggy as hell, especially whwn downloading app from the Play Store. Sometimes waking to drvice can take 3-4 seconds and sometimes even more. I am using widgetlocker. Not mentioned Chrome which is laggy too. I really can't understand why my gnex act like that... I used my friend's HTC One X and its smooth all the time.
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Same on my moms gnex :/
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Well, there are big differences on the Gnex and HTC one X hardware. You cant just think that it will have the same performance.
The question is, do you really need a phone that is 100% smooth?
But android is becoming a heavy OS. Its natural to evolve this way, as well as hardware.
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Well, there are big differences on the Gnex and HTC one X hardware. You cant just think that it will have the same performance.
The question is, do you really need a phone that is 100% smooth?
But android is becoming a heavy OS. Its natural to evolve this way, as well as hardware.
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Smoothness is the most important features for me. I need my phone to be responsive all the time, that the reason I went back to stock from custom because custom gave me terrible performance, that making a call was an issue.
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bar_rodoy said:
Smoothness is the most important features for me. I need my phone to be responsive all the time, that the reason I went back to stock from custom because custom gave me terrible performance, that making a call was an issue.
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"Need". Otherwise you're probably going to have to buy a new device soon.
I can conquer.
When downloading from the Play store, It is extremely slow on various roms.
I believe the problem is the read\write speeds of the storage which is extremely slow.
too bad
yes, i have the same problem whem the app is installing. Its very slow and laggy. Its important to say that there are many apps for android that are poorly optimized, so even in a powerful hardware you may have some issues.
Considering Gnex is a mid end device, i think soon you have to change your phone to a high end if you want more smoothness and if you are willing to pay the price.
+1
This didn't happend on 4.1, so it's not a hardware issue
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Most apps are optimized for gingerbread. And of course its going to "lag" while doing intensive operations.
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I'm running stock and I haven't experienced any sort of lag or anomalies. Have you tried flashing stock to verify?
i disagree bro...
if you compare GNex with the smartphones with the same h/w config, u wud definatly agree dat its the best in its generation.
writing to disk normally slows the phone. Probably is more related to the OS than hardware.
No, just 4.2* is junk. Go back to 4.1.2 and you'll see the difference.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grilledmonkey.lagfix
This fixed a lot of lag the op was talking about. It trims the /data and /cache partition, which for some reason doesn't happen on this device but is required just like normal ssd drives.
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That app doesn't work on my device. I tried the app from chainfire I believe that checked if the device was bugged by that emmc trimming failure. Mine wasn't.
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