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Switch from other phones? Opinions?

Anyone come from other android devices and have opinions on performance, usability, signal, battery life, etc? I'm considering jumping ship from a nexus s. Primarily for the size and battery life, if it is as good as I hear.
Anyone comment on pros/cons vs other android devices you have owned?
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Well, I just had 1 smartphone before the Defy, which was a Samsung Galaxy Spica - an Android device as well. It was a piece of ****, often crashing multiple times a day at random, problems with WiFi switching (sometimes causing a system crash) and mobile connectivity (no INet axx occasionally) as well as numerous other issues. These occured using the original firmware. Because of the instability it was basically unusable.
I'm really happy I switched to the Defy, because its a reliable phone, fast and you can actually play some games on it - another thing that was barely possible on the Spica.

Ill totally trade my defy for your nexus s xD
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sgtmedeiros said:
Ill totally trade my defy for your nexus s xD
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hah2110 said:
Doesnt help me until you tell me why
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Defy has incredible battery life, sound, touch accuracy. Invincible exterior and nice contour design.
Good rom support and great signal.
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Motorola has a locked bootloader. About the only thing bad about this phone.
Compared to the nexus S, slower processor and inferior graphics. I got it because it was incredibly cheap for the performance.

iamnik said:
Motorola has a locked bootloader. About the only thing bad about this phone.
Compared to the nexus S, slower processor and inferior graphics. I got it because it was incredibly cheap for the performance.
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That seems a pretty fair summary.
Though I'd add that whilst the CPU/GPU does sit beneath the Nexus S's performance-wise, it's certainly not an under-powered handset.
The battery is really impressive - I get anywhere between 2 and 4 days, depending on how heavily I use it.

I came from an XT701 moto phone. The specs much lower on that phone and u notice the improved performance with the DEFY. one thing the XT701 was better was camera... very nice xenon!
But the DEFY is much better... much more internal memory, much faster, screen doesn't scratch, have dropped it numerous times... not a single scratch, I scratched up my old phone in 6 months.
I've also done the water testing at the pub and it wasfully submerged in a jug of water... and survived, many in the crowd VERY IMPRESSED!
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Anyone have any lag?

Never lol
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hah2110 said:
Anyone have any lag?
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The Motoblur launcher seems a little laggy. Switched to GoLauncher EX, and it's smooth as. LauncherPro is even smoother, but I prefer Go.
I literally JUST rooted and overclocked it to 1GHz. Pretty easy procedure and runs smoother. It's a really good phone, especially for the price point. Add in the fact that its waterproof and pretty much indestructible makes it awesome.

I am looking at getting this phone on my next contract upgrade, its either the defy or htc desire can anyone point me in the right direction ?
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when overclocking, do you lose any battery life? Don't you lose the blur widgets on another launcher? What do the variety of roms out there provide?
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hah2110 said:
when overclocking, do you lose any battery life? Don't you lose the blur widgets on another launcher? What do the variety of roms out there provide?
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I'm still on the standard ROM (2.1), just rooted with SuperOneClick, and using SetVsel to overclock. It's scaleable, and I've noticed better battery life when the phone is on standby (SetVsel settings are force 300MHz when screen off), but it does seem to drain more when used (vsel at 1.1GHz I have as the same as it was at stock 800MHz). Haven't noticed any instability.
I havn't played around with any ROMs yet, I just don't want to waste any more time
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I am looking at getting this phone on my next contract upgrade, its either the defy or htc desire can anyone point me in the right direction ?
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This is a good phone, but I'd go for the desire. The reason I got this is because I bought it sim-free, and the desire was about £350, whilst this was £270.

My first Android phone was the G1, then followed by Moto Cliq, HTC Hero, Sony Ericsson X10 Mini Pro and most recently Samsung Galaxy S.
I'm really glad I switched from the Samsung Galaxy S, even though the processor + graphics aren't as good I feel the Defy still performs much better. Maybe that's because the Defy has more RAM?
I've experienced very little lag, during times when you'd expect very heavy multi-tasking.
The downside is the locked bootloader and lack of firmware updates that Moto displays.
As for battery life, I've had decent results. Most older handsets I used to worry about switching down to 2G to extend the battery life.
Using Setvsel I usually have it clocked at 600mhz and undervolted and everything still runs really smooth.

coxykidd said:
I am looking at getting this phone on my next contract upgrade, its either the defy or htc desire can anyone point me in the right direction ?
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They're both nice and in performance I think they're roughly equal except the Defy graphics are better and has better battery life.
The Desire will serve you better for Custom ROMs and firmware updates if that's you're main priority. Don't expect the Defy to get anything past FroYo.
As it looks like you're on T-mobile, I'd aim to go through retentions when it comes to upgrade time and back yourself a good deal.

coxykidd said:
I am looking at getting this phone on my next contract upgrade, its either the defy or htc desire can anyone point me in the right direction ?
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Bearing in mind that you're posting in the Motorola Defy section, you're probably not going to get particularly unbiased advice...
spruceyb said:
I'm really glad I switched from the Samsung Galaxy S, even though the processor + graphics aren't as good I feel the Defy still performs much better. Maybe that's because the Defy has more RAM?
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Maybe, if it were true.
Both have 512MB of RAM.

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Bearing in mind that you're posting in the Motorola Defy section, you're probably not going to get particularly unbiased advice...
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I posted here so i know what people who actually have the phonr think, not just people that judge it by its specs.
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I haven't really reached a limit for the defy's utility yet at 1.1GHz oc, but what I can say for certain is that the LCD's is pretty midrange and it seems that screen on really chews down the battery life as well.
I've seen worse screens (cheaper nokia phones) and better screens (AMOLED, apple iphone and ipod touch screens). It's not really a problem unless you have two or three people trying to see what's going on though.

Nitro and lag

Okay so I'm thinking about getting it switching from my galaxy s2. Well I went to the att store today. Why did it lagg so bad. I even restarted it and still lag. Expseically in the browser! Went to xda full website and holly crap zooming in and out was a pain! Then on my galaxy s2 it was smooth with no lag at all. Is it really that slow
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keep your s2. simple & done.

It is not as laggy as in the store but its not going to be as buttery smooth as your galaxy S2.

I'm finding the same... The only chance you got is custom roms and kernels. That if we can get CWM going.. honestly I'm thinking of returning this for the nexus...

"Lag" is a really subjective term. Are we talking because it wasn't instantaneous therefore it lagged, or are we talking about it took a second? 3 seconds?
The GS2 has an 800x480 screen resolution vs. the Nitro's 1280x720 so it's doing that much more work to draw the screen. Have you been to the XDA site on your S2 before, if so that means your browser probably cached the site, whereas the Nitro has the initial load lag...Assuming you were using the exact same stock browsers as well?
Don't get me wrong, there's general agreement that the Nitro has lag, but there's also a general agreement that it has a LOT to do with the AT&T bloat and with some tweaking it can be mostly remedied.

As Namuna said, there are a lot of factors involved. I, for one, have no idea how the original nitro in the AT&T store runs. The second I got it, I rooted it and did a factory reset, and I have zero complaints about lag. I also go to the full xda site on my phone (I loathe all mobile versions of websites), and I have no complaints with lag. Scrolling around up and down, zooming in and out may not always be buttery smooth (mostly it is, but sometimes, zooming in and out can drop the frame rate to about 15/s while zooming), but I never experience a delay in scrolling/zooming, so I can't really call it lag. Maybe stutter.

Namuna said:
"Lag" is a really subjective term. Are we talking because it wasn't instantaneous therefore it lagged, or are we talking about it took a second? 3 seconds?
The GS2 has an 800x480 screen resolution vs. the Nitro's 1280x720 so it's doing that much more work to draw the screen. Have you been to the XDA site on your S2 before, if so that means your browser probably cached the site, whereas the Nitro has the initial load lag...Assuming you were using the exact same stock browsers as well?
Don't get me wrong, there's general agreement that the Nitro has lag, but there's also a general agreement that it has a LOT to do with the AT&T bloat and with some tweaking it can be mostly remedied.
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As Namuna said, there are a lot of factors involved. I, for one, have no idea how the original nitro in the AT&T store runs. The second I got it, I rooted it and did a factory reset, and I have zero complaints about lag. I also go to the full xda site on my phone (I loathe all mobile versions of websites), and I have no complaints with lag. Scrolling around up and down, zooming in and out may not always be buttery smooth (mostly it is, but sometimes, zooming in and out can drop the frame rate to about 15/s while zooming), but I never experience a delay in scrolling/zooming, so I can't really call it lag. Maybe stutter.
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Okay another? Why is it that ppl do a factory reset on a new phone? I mean when I got my s2 I rooted it and loaded a rom so i never tested the difference. But why reset it though?
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As Namuna said, there are a lot of factors involved. I, for one, have no idea how the original nitro in the AT&T store runs. The second I got it, I rooted it and did a factory reset, and I have zero complaints about lag. I also go to the full xda site on my phone (I loathe all mobile versions of websites), and I have no complaints with lag. Scrolling around up and down, zooming in and out may not always be buttery smooth (mostly it is, but sometimes, zooming in and out can drop the frame rate to about 15/s while zooming), but I never experience a delay in scrolling/zooming, so I can't really call it lag. Maybe stutter.
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hyelton said:
Okay another? Why is it that ppl do a factory reset on a new phone? I mean when I got my s2 I rooted it and loaded a rom so i never tested the difference. But why reset it though?
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Could very well be a placebo. Could be some remnants of factory "crud" that gets cleared out only after a factory reset. I don't think you'll get any argument from anyone that it doesn't make any sense why this helps, but there's plenty enough folks that have done it (myself included) and will say it indeed makes a difference.

Okay I'm between 2 pphones. Need to know by 9 tommrow morning. HTC vivid. Or LG nitro
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hyelton said:
Okay I'm between 2 pphones. Need to know by 9 tommrow morning. HTC vivid. Or LG nitro
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Join the club! Join the club
If you don't mind some slight stutter here and there and don't need to run the latest and greatest looking games, definitely go with the Nitro.
The screen is GORGEOUS
Writing / reading email is a joy on this device.
Just to note, I'm pretty sure all of us here have custom launchers now. The default launcher is really slow, but Go launcher / Launcher Pro / ADW Launcher are pretty snappy.

I'm no Android expert, but with the Adreno 220 the Nitro should be able to run the latest and greatest looking games, right? Anyway, if you browse the web a lot and e-mail then pick this phone.

Yea I don't realty game. Just apps email and lots of web. Don't hate me for what I'm gonna ask. What about tethering? Can I tether on the stock rom while rooted? Cause this is a must. I have the unlimited plan. But 2 ddays out of the week I'm at a friends that has Hughesnet which is horrible to use. I only use about 100 MB during those 2 ddays so i don't abuse it
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8mileroad said:
I'm no Android expert, but with the Adreno 220 the Nitro should be able to run the latest and greatest looking games, right? Anyway, if you browse the web a lot and e-mail then pick this phone.
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The Adreno 220 is great, and so is the 1.5Ghz S3, but games aren't optimized for this resolution, or the current software that's running on the phone. I'm sure we will see a performance increase once we get ICS.

What abouth tethering
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Yea I don't realty game. Just apps email and lots of web. Don't hate me for what I'm gonna ask. What about tethering? Can I tether on the stock rom while rooted? Cause this is a must. I have the unlimited plan. But 2 ddays out of the week I'm at a friends that has Hughesnet which is horrible to use. I only use about 100 MB during those 2 ddays so i don't abuse it
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Tethering is possible without even rooting, but you'll have to install a 3rd party app on your phone and a program on your computer for what I do. I use PDAnet.

So software lag is not to bad compaired to the one in the store. Done root and factory reset and froze loads of apps. But typing and texting isbkinda horrid. I can be typing and sometimes it will stop and freeze while I'm typing then like a sec or 2 it will then type it. I have this issue when just testing :/ but I do love thebscreen

hyelton said:
So software lag is not to bad compaired to the one in the store. Done root and factory reset and froze loads of apps. But typing and texting isbkinda horrid. I can be typing and sometimes it will stop and freeze while I'm typing then like a sec or 2 it will then type it. I have this issue when just testing :/ but I do love thebscreen
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Something to keep in mind is that HTC Vivid uses the same CPU (the Vivid is clocked down to 1.2 GHz)/GPU combo as the Nitro, and the Samsung Skyrocket also. Other than the Nitro having a higher resolution screen to deal with, I'd imagine any drastic performance differences between the 3 phones would be down to software.

Why is the Nexus so laggy compared to other phones?

I mean the frames are just so slow when you press the app drawer button. I even have it rooted and tried different ROMS and kernals, but I'm beginning to think it is ICS itself. I had a Sensation that seemed like it was running at 60 FPS and it was just smooth. When people say that their Nexus phone is running "buttery smooth" I'm sure they're blind. After playing with my girl friends SGS2, I'm completely jealous of how smooth and snappy her phone is compared to mine.
So the question is, why the hell is Nexus or ICS so damn slow and choppy compared to other phones like the SGS2 and my old Sensation?

Its not...are you overclocked? That could cause stutteryness. Maybe you should try restarting he phone or clearing RAM? My phone is buttery smooth, faster than any other phone I've seen.
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i hate to say this, but your either trolling or you have a broken phone.
out of every phone i've owned. (including the Sensation and the Galaxy Note) my GF's Nexus is by far the smoothest out of all of them. the closest one i've owned in 'smoothness' was the Note. followed by the Sensation. difference is the Sensation took 1.7GHz to get to anywhere near smooth. whereas the Note and the Nexus were/are bone stock.

For the 1st time you call the app drawer it could be a bit lag, but I can hardly observe that without this thread.

Maybe its your phone. Have you tried another one? My co-worker just got one and he also has occasional lag when he goes back and fourth from the app drawer to the home screen. He returned it, got another and he was able to duplicate the problem. I've had mine since day one and have never had any lag issues, and yes mine is "buttery smooth", and no I'm not blind. We figured it must be a bad batch.

My Galaxy Nexus is way smoother than my Galaxy S2.

my phone is smooth.

OP is nut. Sorry friend. I am unlocked rooted 4.0.4 no mods at all and this phone is fast as one could hope for.

You must have a software bug or something, my UI is easily hitting the 60fps mark and buttery smooth compared to all my previous android phones.

mines buttery smooth

Lol someone is trolling.

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mines buttery smooth
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Can I haz that on my scone pleasez

monkey hung said:
I mean the frames are just so slow when you press the app drawer button. I even have it rooted and tried different ROMS and kernals, but I'm beginning to think it is ICS itself. I had a Sensation that seemed like it was running at 60 FPS and it was just smooth. When people say that their Nexus phone is running "buttery smooth" I'm sure they're blind. After playing with my girl friends SGS2, I'm completely jealous of how smooth and snappy her phone is compared to mine.
So the question is, why the hell is Nexus or ICS so damn slow and choppy compared to other phones like the SGS2 and my old Sensation?
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Don't use LWP's.

I knew you guys would say stupid **** like this. No it's not OC and not I'm not trolling. I'm just f'in disappointed. To me it looks just choppy. It's not just my phone but all Nexus devices that I have seen.
It just feels like it's frame rate is low. If your looking at your home screen, you have some widgets and press the home button to fly back to the main screen, you can see the frames just drop. It's stupid.
It doesn't hold a candle to my old sensation or the sgs2 that I've played with.
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Don't use LWP's.
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LWP's? What's that? Also I'm running the GSM version. I get the occasional home screen lag when going into and out of the app drawer. I highly doubt it's a bug or a hardware issue.
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LWP's? What's that? Also I'm running the GSM version.
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Don't use live wallpapers. Aside from a few of the bundled ones, they're all made for 800x480, and even the optimized ones don't help the framerates.

No worries man, I know what you are talking about but its more to do with the Resolution of the Nexus's screen more than anything. Its pretty taxing on the phone to pull off the resolutions its rendering but it can tweaked to be pretty smooth and fast. The launcher on the Sensation is very optimized whereas the SGS2 is overly powerful that it can run pretty much anything at full blast due to the superior GPU on the SoC. Luckily our phone can run 2D graphics and calculations faster than any other phone on the market even being clocked at 1.2 Ghz.
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Don't use live wallpapers. Aside from a few of the bundled ones, they're all made for 800x480, and even the optimized ones don't help the framerates.
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I'm using a static wallpaper. I know quadrant scores don't mean anything as with antutu but I got some pretty high scores around 7000 with antutu but the FPS is still bad. Maybe I can show a video to you guys!
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No worries man, I know what you are talking about but its more to do with the Resolution of the Nexus's screen more than anything. Its pretty taxing on the phone to pull off the resolutions its rendering but it can tweaked to be pretty smooth and fast. The launcher on the Sensation is very optimized whereas the SGS2 is overly powerful that it can run pretty much anything at full blast due to the superior GPU on the SoC. Luckily our phone can run 2D graphics and calculations faster than any other phone on the market even being clocked at 1.2 Ghz.
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Really? I didn't know that last bit. Hopefully the galaxy nexus plus rumors are true. I would aim for that.
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The Galaxy Nexus, even with roms, is not as fast as the Exynos GSII

I have a GSM Galaxy Nexus and it has AOKP build 25 with Fugomod kernel on it and this thing still is laggy. I tried many different roms and kernels and it still lags. I'm pretty sure my GSII was faster.
Some people say they have a buttery smooth Nexus and I'm jealous of you because mine feels like a 700mhz single core phone with 256mb of ram.
What's the deal? Why is it lagging (stock keyboard, browsing, app drawer, etc)
And I'm not trying to "bash". I want to keep the phone but the slowness is frustrating.
UPDATE 2/27/11 - I wiped my phone and flashed the Apex 1.02 Rom and now the phone is really fast. Some occasional hiccups but not a big deal.
I'm a very happy GN owner now.

You're holding it wrong.
Edit: somebody delete this thread, OP posted exact same post on a similar oriented thread..

bk201doesntexist said:
You're holding it wrong.
Edit: somebody delete this thread, OP posted exact same post on a similar oriented thread..
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I accidentally posted it in a thread I was reading.

You are either doing it wrong or trolling. My guess is trolling.

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You are either doing it wrong or trolling. My guess is trolling.
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So nobody can state their Galaxy Nexus is laggy? If so then you're a troll? I don't understand that logic.

I'm so sick of people comparing the galaxy nexus to the gs2. They are different classes of phones. The gs2 is running on a screen with a much lower resolution and an old version of android. If I take my PC which runs any game great on my 19" monitor and then connect it to my 46" HDTV the same games run laggy because my video card is working much harder to run the game at the higher resolution. Also if I play a game on windows xp and then play the same game on windows 7 the game tends to run slower because as operating systems evolve they tend to need more resources and also add new enhancements that add more strain on the hardware. I'm sure you can put android 4.0 on a HTC dream but will it run well? Not a chance because android 4.0 uses more juice then android 1.5 that the dream came with. I bet if you could install android 2.3 on the galaxy nexus it would fly like a bat out of hell.
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I came from an E4GT and my GN feels just as fast.

Put foxhound 1.1 stock,my phone runs buttery smooth and Ferrari fast,with 24hrs of battery,everything on,3hr screen. You gotta find the right rom kernel combo man.I pottered around with aokp and apex and Franco for 2 months and then tried foxhound one day. Never going back. Just keep at it. Its fun man.
And guys please don't flame the guy,its very distasteful.
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OMG MEGAHERTZ PROCESSOR RACE!!1
I don't quite get it. Is this a pissing contest? The Gnex runs way fast for a cellphone.
Maybe I'm getting old.

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So nobody can state their Galaxy Nexus is laggy? If so then you're a troll? I don't understand that logic.
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I'm so sick of people comparing the galaxy nexus to the gs2. They are different classes of phones. The gs2 is running on a screen with a much lower resolution and an old version of android. If I take my PC which runs any game great on my 19" monitor and then connect it to my 46" HDTV the same games run laggy because my video card is working much harder to run the game at the higher resolution. Also if I play a game on windows xp and then play the same game on windows 7 the game tends to run slower because as operating systems evolve they tend to need more resources and also add new enhancements that add more strain on the hardware. I'm sure you can put android 4.0 on a HTC dream but will it run well? Not a chance because android 4.0 uses more juice then android 1.5 that the dream came with. I bet if you could install android 2.3 on the galaxy nexus it would fly like a bat out of hell.
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Ok I get what you're saying but Google knew this so why didn't they add a more powerful GPU to handle these issues?

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Put foxhound 1.1 stock,my phone runs buttery smooth and Ferrari fast,with 24hrs of battery,everything on,3hr screen. You gotta find the right rom kernel combo man.I pottered around with aokp and apex and Franco for 2 months and then tried foxhound one day. Never going back. Just keep at it. Its fun man.
And guys please don't flame the guy,its very distasteful.
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I'll try foxhound, thanks.
What's your reason for not using the latest 18.4 Franco Kernel and instead opting for the 14.4 version.

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I'll try foxhound, thanks.
What's your reason for not using the latest 18.4 Franco Kernel and instead opting for the 14.4 version.
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Unsure about that poster's experience, but 18.4 is awesome for me, and so far synergises really well with CM9.

crossover37 said:
So nobody can state their Galaxy Nexus is laggy? If so then you're a troll? I don't understand that logic.
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You said:
"Some people say they have a buttery smooth Nexus and I'm jealous of you because mine feels like a 700mhz single core phone with 256mb of ram."
That is so far outside the norm that you are either trolling, have a defective device or flashed and did something so screwed up that its messing with your device. So either:
1. Do a complete wipe, including formatting data, cache, dalvik and system. Install AOKP, gaaps with trinity kernel (basic one for all devices). Reboot. Download auto start manager and kill anything like maps or talk that you don't want running at startup. Go into settings and set cpu to 1.2, 400mhz with on demand or performance scaling. Set on boot checked. Reboot. Then tell me the phone is slow.
2. Don't use live wall paper. Most of them are not optimized for ICS
3. Return your device and get another one its broken.

My laptop is faster than your GSII.

crossover37 said:
Ok I get what you're saying but Google knew this so why didn't they add a more powerful GPU to handle these issues?
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because google knows this is already powerful enough and the only place that it would make a difference is in benchmarks. Remember the nexus is the reference phone the developers are supposed to base their applications on. So in theory all app should run perfectly on all nexus devices. Basically any app made in 2012 should run perfectly on this phone. Think of it this way this is the minimum hardware requirements for apps and if a manufacturer goes beyond the specs its all gravy basically bragging rights but realistically this device has more than enough power to handle what google intended it for.
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I'll play since I've recently made the jump as well and I think I'm coming in with an "unbiased" opinion. Keep in mind I'm much happier with my GN than I was with my I9100, which I'm also keeping at least until kernel source is released for ICS. Using CM9 on the Nexus and using CM9 on the SGSII, no comparison for me, Nexus wins, hands down as far as fluidity and feel goes, ignoring the fact that so many things still don't work on the SGSII.
There are ever so slight cpu and gpu advantages that I've noticed on the SGSII. Very occasionally might be felt as a lag or stutter. For the most part however I find the GN "smoother" over all. Alternative launchers (Nova) lag for me on the GN going in/out of the app drawer, but removing widgets from the app drawer cured that. I may have to wait an extra second, maybe two, for the desktop to be fully fluid following a boot. I've never experienced keyboard lag, or alike.
In the end however, I didn't buy the GN because I thought it would kill the SGSII performance wise and the specs didn't lead me to believe that would be the case. A couple of non-performance or Android related things I really appreciate are the feel of the phone in my hand, and the action of the buttons. What I used to jokingly refer to as the "panty liner shape" of the phone is comfortable in my pocket.
It might take some more kernel experimenting on your part to find one that feels good for you. When I was on AOKP I found Leankernel to be absolutely buttery. Slight cpu/gpu advantages aside, I feel that the GN is the better phone overall and it's still a bloody fast unit, and my next device will be a Nexus as well. I'd say 95% of the time the phone feels as fast, and potentially more fluid, than my old phone.

So this year we're gonna have all these new quad core phones coming out which is great, but when the new version of android comes out we will get it right away and all those new quad core phones will be waiting up to a year to get it and by then the new version of android will be out yet again. You don't get a nexus phone for it's powerful processor look for it support and long term commitment. I had 5 android phones in the last year and I will never get anything other then a nexus because of all the stress I had trying to get updates for my other phones. My last phone the optimus 3 d was a very good phone butwe just got gingerbread a few weeks ago and lg is saying we will get ice cream sandwich in the third quarter f 2012. By then my nexus phone will probably have the new version of android. And I'm sure that lg will be dropping support for that phone because they'll have a new 1 out. But my nexus phone will most likely be supported through 2013.
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The OMAP SoC in the Galaxy Nexus is superior to that in the GS2. It was the best SoC available for the release date they wanted.
Maybe the Exynos can benchmark higher but as Fancisco pointed out
"Most GPU workloads on 4460 with a 720p screen are limited by the
memory bandwidth, not the GPU computation ability"
I am fairly sure the OMAP SoC we have has a much higher memory bandwidth than the GS2 ^.^

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The OMAP SoC in the Galaxy Nexus is superior to that in the GS2. It was the best SoC available for the release date they wanted.
Maybe the Exynos can benchmark higher but as Fancisco pointed out
"Most GPU workloads on 4460 with a 720p screen are limited by the
memory bandwidth, not the GPU computation ability"
I am fairly sure the OMAP SoC we have has a much higher memory bandwidth than the GS2 ^.^
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Not quite. Not sure about the exact memory channel speed but they both utilize same exact memory setup dual channel LPDDR2
OMAP was the SoC that Google chose
It's essentially a terrible choice with grossly outdated gpu in a platform where GPU will start to drive every day operation
This isn't to say that Mali400MP setup is the greatest in the GPU choice but eventhough it's inefficient, it's able to push through with raw power
I may get a bit of flake for this but Nexus does micro-stutter in some instances in places like the stock app drawer (this is addressed with nova launcher but question was does the GNex stutter).
I wouldn't blame the slight lagginess or stutters on the hardware just yet seeing how ICS is still fairly new and there is also the issue with maturity of apps running ICS.

Thanks guys for your responses. I'm not trying to be a pain; just annoyed that my old phone felt smoother.
I installed Apex rom and so far it feels very fast so hopefully it will stay this way. I kept the kernel that was packaged with the rom.
Another reason I thought it was slow was because I would type on the desktop site of XDA. Using the app doesn't cause the keyboard lag. It still is strange why the keyboard would lag like that while posting on XDA.

T-Mobile S4 lag?

Hey guys im coming form the At&t forum and we have been discussing the amount of lag on the phone I was curious if you T-Mobile users are experiencing lag like us At&t users? I'm curious if its the phone or At&t's version is just lagtastic.

I just came over here to post the same thing. Looking through the first couple of pages of threads, it does not look like lag is appearing anywhere in the titles.

I don't have any lag. What kind of lag? Maybe I'm not going through the same app or something.
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In my ~2 years on ATT I've learned that ATT bloatware not only sucks terribly, but also is memory intensive. Get someone that's rooted to debloat and see if they still have lag.

Some people have mentioned lagginess, but it doesn't appear to be wide-spread. Posting additional info about the lag you're seeing would be helpful...

tdesbien31 said:
Hey guys im coming form the At&t forum and we have been discussing the amount of lag on the phone I was curious if you T-Mobile users are experiencing lag like us At&t users? I'm curious if its the phone or At&t's version is just lagtastic.
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Yes I am experiencing lag. I will be posting a video comparing the lag on the S4 vs my S3.
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I have been rocking mine for three days and I'm experiencing little to no lag. The s3 had lag from the TouchWiz interface the lock screen had a little lag and the home button too. Overtime the s3 got faster. I've owned both s3 and note2 and now s4 and I can't tell you that the s4 is dramatically laggyer. But I do notice minors lag in certain apps but its not enough to cry about and it's not something that can't be addressed by either official update or custom ROM.
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pezlomd said:
I have been rocking mine for three days and I'm experiencing little to no lag. The s3 had lag from the TouchWiz interface the lock screen had a little lag and the home button too. Overtime the s3 got faster. I've owned both s3 and note2 and now s4 and I can't tell you that the s4 is dramatically laggyer. But I do notice minors lag in certain apps but its not enough to cry about and it's not something that can't be addressed by either official update or custom ROM.
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Ive owned all of those devices as well, and I can tell you the AT&T Note 2 is dramatically faster than the AT&T S4, and similar in terms of speed to the S3. Im very dissapointed, and was curious to see if you tmobile users are also experiencing this awful lagginess. I owned the One briefey and its MUCH faster which a slower clocked cpu

There is a slight lag once in a while but its not bad.
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wife has had her since May 1 and has not said anything about lag...then again, she is coming from an Exhibit II so i'm sure she probably wouldn't even notice any LOL

tdesbien31 said:
Ive owned all of those devices as well, and I can tell you the AT&T Note 2 is dramatically faster than the AT&T S4, and similar in terms of speed to the S3. Im very dissapointed, and was curious to see if you tmobile users are also experiencing this awful lagginess. I owned the One briefey and its MUCH faster which a slower clocked cpu
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For sure the note 2 is snappier I know it. I wont lie. But the s4 (at least mine) hasnt been lagging that bad at all. This ui is one of the most customizable and tricked out uis ive seen out of the box..I have no been around 3 s4s and they all been running good. Lag I do notice is switching tabs in browser and opening gallery takes like 2 secs. No keyboard lag and quadrant scores are ridiculous
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Coming from the s3, I do feel that the s4 lags a little bit. Switching tabs on chrome and pressing home button is two of them, the camera shutter is laggy as well, it's not instant like how it was on the s3. I have disabled some of the bloat, but can't say it has helped.
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I'm going to go ahead here and say something that will probably upset quite a few people.
Your lag (in my opinion) is most likely
45% Bloatware
40% User error/****ty application choice
5% The phone
Tell me I'm wrong all you want, but that's what I'm sticking with because I have experienced much less lag and much more snappy response than the S3.

TeknoGodz said:
I'm going to go ahead here and say something that will probably upset quite a few people.
Your lag (in my opinion) is most likely
45% Bloatware
40% User error/****ty application choice
5% The phone
Tell me I'm wrong all you want, but that's what I'm sticking with because I have experienced much less lag and much more snappy response than the S3.
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I would normally agree with this, BUT..... I'll address your thesis.
This is a widespread problem on the att forum, and all display models I've played with.
Bloatware: it's all disabled
User error / sharty app: I'm using the same apps I've used on my last 20 phones, most recently the HTC one with 0 lag.
The phone: well that's most likely the problem, I think Samsung failed on this one....
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The phone: well that's most likely the problem, I think Samsung failed on this one....
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FALSE.
i think your carrier is ****ty.
return your unit, and buy a tmobile one.

tdesbien31 said:
I would normally agree with this, BUT..... I'll address your thesis.
This is a widespread problem on the att forum, and all display models I've played with.
Bloatware: it's all disabled
User error / sharty app: I'm using the same apps I've used on my last 20 phones, most recently the HTC one with 0 lag.
The phone: well that's most likely the problem, I think Samsung failed on this one....
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I should've put ATT where I put The Phone... that's really what I meant.
Like I have said, I experienced NO lagging problems. Pure speed and responsiveness. And this is on 3 different T-Mobile S4's that I have used extensively.
Like ^^ said, see if you can return your phone and buy a Tmobile and unlock it if it's that much of a problem, otherwise wait till we got some AOSP, because it's obvious to me that ATT's ROM is ****.

I must agree with my fellow T mobile s4 owners. I rooted. De bloated and took off a few useless window animations and my s4 is flying. Only one tiny tiny thing maaaybe is home button is .05 secs to slow. Personally I feel like its some BS samsung bug or timing issue in software.
Im coming from a rooted htc amaze dual 1.5ghz snapdragon w 1gb ram, that was a fast phone when it was unlocked and set up properly.
With the s4 Even when I had it completly stock it wasnt "lag" it was more touchwiz and bloat. Performance AND battery life have been amazing for me. My device doesnt even have much of the smearing others are reporting.
I dont post much but this device has restored my faith in samsung phones.
If your device is otherwise I think you should replace or buy tmo ver and unlock like previously stated.
Hope it works out for you.

I don't have an S4 so I can't test this, but Jason on All About Android said he turned off Air Gestures and the lag and stuttering went away.

I'm coming from an s2 t989 and am completely pleased with the results. The home button lag isn't evident in my device, I'll get back to you if it comes up .
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+1, Not that it is a huge difference, but this does make a small difference.
Before my S4, I had (still have) the Note II ... The touch screen on the S4 is much snappier (obviously with the new integrated tech.) than any of my previous phones...Note II and S3.
This is definitely not a hardware issue for those who are experiencing the random lag.
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I don't have an S4 so I can't test this, but Jason on All About Android said he turned off Air Gestures and the lag and stuttering went away.
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