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[Q] SG Nexus vs. SGSII Test results - why is SGSII so much better?

I just got my Nexus yesterday (from Negri Electronics) and comparing it to my SGSII:
Nexus is rooted and I've installed CWM - otherwise "stock" ICS
SGSII is running CheckROM RevolutionHD 3.1.1
Quadrant Standard for SGN is 1891 v. SGSII is 3648! - any idea why the SGSII is so much better?
Speedtest (with both phones sitting next to each other) is SGN 4.573UP & 1.554 down (H+) and SGSII is 4.634UP and 1.639 down - pretty much the same even after a couple of tries.
While I'm loving ICS and the better screen resolution, I'm having a hard time letting go of my SGSII. When you exclude the screen space used for the "virtual" buttons on the SGN, you are left with essentially the same size screen on both units. Also, even though the SGN is really only a little bit taller than the SGSII, it really (IMHO) makes a difference.
This is going to be tough. Any reason why the quadrant performance is so much better on the SGSII?

Who cares. Quadrant doesn't mean ****. Use the one you like better.
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Well ICS uses the GPU for acceleration in its apps. Perhaps ICS is dedicating a chunk.
Benchmarks are useless anyway. Our G2xs can be modded to read over 7000.
You also need the SGSII on ICS for any decent comparison.
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV

Really? You compare phones by quadrant results?
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well, what feels better/faster to you?

Quadrant doesn't matter. Does the phone perform the way you want it to? Is it smooth? Then who cares?
If bragging about quadrant scores is that important to you then keep our SGSII.

For starters you're comparing a mostly stock phone to a phone with a rom that's been optimized to run better. You're also using a benchmark that hasn't even been updated for 4.0 yet. When the NS came out you had to run it 5-10 times before it finally finished and gave you a meaningless score since it wasn't updated to run on 2.3 at the time. And let's not forget, it has to render the graphics at nearly double the resolution of the SGS2. Give the phone time to stretch its legs, it'll show you how good it is. Besides, benchmarks really only good for posting screenshots on online message boards.

qreffie said:
For starters you're comparing a mostly stock phone to a phone with a rom that's been optimized to run better. You're also using a benchmark that hasn't even been updated for 4.0 yet. When the NS came out you had to run it 5-10 times before it finally finished and gave you a meaningless score since it wasn't updated to run on 2.3 at the time. And let's not forget, it has to render the graphics at nearly double the resolution of the SGS2. Give the phone time to stretch its legs, it'll show you how good it is. Besides, benchmarks really only good for posting screenshots on online message boards.
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Quadrant doesn't even run both cores correctly. Besides that, the GS2 has better CPU/GPU. However, it doesn't have the screen or, the developer support that the GN will have. Personally, Id have a hard time shelling out the cash for a GN if I already had a GS2...
That being said, I'd never consider getting rid of my GN for a GS2 if that makes sense.
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so you using the phone doesn't matter? You would prefer what a software that hasn't been updated in over six months to tell you which is better?

martonikaj said:
Quadrant doesn't matter. Does the phone perform the way you want it to? Is it smooth? Then who cares?
If bragging about quadrant scores is that important to you then keep our SGSII.
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nexus is flying machine! and even with revolution HD
there is no lag, no delay... everything is blazing fast! and i had SGS2 running cognition...and i can tell without any benchmark that it was not as fast as GN is!
remember this is pure android - vanila - and its need some time to get over developers that will make it even faster. and once SGS2 will be running ICs we can do a reall test. but at this stage any results are pointless mate.

Why did you buy the Galaxy Nexus if you want the best benchmark results?
If i had an SGS2 then the only reason to buy the GN is ICS and the design (maybe NFC too), you dont buy it for the specs obviously.

Before someone chimes in about the GNEX camera sucking, it really doesn't. It may not be as good as the SGSII (I owned it, so I know) but it's perfectly serviceable for a phone.
Took today while on a hike...
It's obviously compressed so I could attach it. The original file is crystal clear.

The Samsung Galaxy S II has a significantly better SoC than the Galaxy Nexus. It is no surprise than the Galaxy Nexus doesn't hold a candle to it in benchmarks.

Why am i having deja vu? Of deja vu? Lame thread. And lame comparison.
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Quadrant scores don't matter due to the fact that you have to compare the two devices using the same rom. once ICS is on the SGS2 then there will be a comparable quadrant score.
But can't wait till I get my hands on SGN in a few days
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whatzup282 said:
Quadrant scores don't matter due to the fact that you have to compare the two devices using the same rom. once ICS is on the SGS2 then there will be a comparable quadrant score.
But can't wait till I get my hands on SGN in a few days
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probably not, the sgs2 has a better gpu
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Eclair~ said:
The Samsung Galaxy S II has a significantly better SoC than the Galaxy Nexus. It is no surprise than the Galaxy Nexus doesn't hold a candle to it in benchmarks.
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I don't really know where you get off saying that...
The SoC isn't really any better. And consider that the GN also is running underclocked.
Anandtech Article
That should really say it all.
Also, chiming in to say that benchmarks like Quadrant really don't mean much overall. Keep the phone if you like it.

Wow! A lot of responses. Thanks to those who helped me understand the differences between the phones. I've only had the SGN for a little more than 24 hours so don't yet have an opinion on one over the other in day2day use. Love the screen resolution on SGN and ICS in general though hard to find anything to not like about the SGS2. Hopefully future ROMs & enhancements will make the differences even more pronounced. Usually my "old" phone goes right on sale as soon as I've configured the new one. In the case of SGN v SGS2, I think I'll keep the SGS2 for awhile longer ...

ugh....so many clueless pointless remarks and evidence to back their comments.
To the person that said the SGS2 doesn't have the type of developer community the GN has. You do realize the SGS2 has the largest developer backing of any phone right? It's larger than the Nexus etc...Galaxy phones have always had large developer community and backing since the original one came out and its not changing I wouldn't really worry about one having a larger community than the other as they are both going to be huge.
The Galaxy Nexus is more of a side upgrade than a complete full upgrade (thats what the SGS III is for).
Galaxy Nexus has advantage of vanilla 4.0 ICS and a larger 720P screen that also performs better than the SAMOLED + on the SGS II.
CPU - might as well toss it up as a tie, the TI OMAP has some things that make it favorable for ICS
GPU - no competition the MALI destroys the older SGX 540 even if it is over clocked.
Camera - the SGS II is better but it doesn't really matter, the 5MP on the GN takes fine shots and really you should be using a point and shoot or DSLR if you want real photos.
Quandrant is not a good way to see what phone is faster since its become really pointless lately and can be cheated. It's also not updated for 4.0 ICS as others have stated making the scores even more pointless.
But yea, don't really see the point at all of dishing out $700 for a GN if someone already has an SGS 2.
SGS 2 on ICS will likely be faster than the GN though just due to the MALI GPU and exynos being probably one of the fastest clock for clock. And initial benchmarks from the Galnet ICS show the SGS 2 getting some better scores on things like sunspider but they're close enough.

I have tested both the Galaxy Nexus and the T-Mobile S2. The Nexus is worlds apart better.

Nitro and lag

Okay so I'm thinking about getting it switching from my galaxy s2. Well I went to the att store today. Why did it lagg so bad. I even restarted it and still lag. Expseically in the browser! Went to xda full website and holly crap zooming in and out was a pain! Then on my galaxy s2 it was smooth with no lag at all. Is it really that slow
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keep your s2. simple & done.

It is not as laggy as in the store but its not going to be as buttery smooth as your galaxy S2.

I'm finding the same... The only chance you got is custom roms and kernels. That if we can get CWM going.. honestly I'm thinking of returning this for the nexus...

"Lag" is a really subjective term. Are we talking because it wasn't instantaneous therefore it lagged, or are we talking about it took a second? 3 seconds?
The GS2 has an 800x480 screen resolution vs. the Nitro's 1280x720 so it's doing that much more work to draw the screen. Have you been to the XDA site on your S2 before, if so that means your browser probably cached the site, whereas the Nitro has the initial load lag...Assuming you were using the exact same stock browsers as well?
Don't get me wrong, there's general agreement that the Nitro has lag, but there's also a general agreement that it has a LOT to do with the AT&T bloat and with some tweaking it can be mostly remedied.

As Namuna said, there are a lot of factors involved. I, for one, have no idea how the original nitro in the AT&T store runs. The second I got it, I rooted it and did a factory reset, and I have zero complaints about lag. I also go to the full xda site on my phone (I loathe all mobile versions of websites), and I have no complaints with lag. Scrolling around up and down, zooming in and out may not always be buttery smooth (mostly it is, but sometimes, zooming in and out can drop the frame rate to about 15/s while zooming), but I never experience a delay in scrolling/zooming, so I can't really call it lag. Maybe stutter.

Namuna said:
"Lag" is a really subjective term. Are we talking because it wasn't instantaneous therefore it lagged, or are we talking about it took a second? 3 seconds?
The GS2 has an 800x480 screen resolution vs. the Nitro's 1280x720 so it's doing that much more work to draw the screen. Have you been to the XDA site on your S2 before, if so that means your browser probably cached the site, whereas the Nitro has the initial load lag...Assuming you were using the exact same stock browsers as well?
Don't get me wrong, there's general agreement that the Nitro has lag, but there's also a general agreement that it has a LOT to do with the AT&T bloat and with some tweaking it can be mostly remedied.
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itiskonrad said:
As Namuna said, there are a lot of factors involved. I, for one, have no idea how the original nitro in the AT&T store runs. The second I got it, I rooted it and did a factory reset, and I have zero complaints about lag. I also go to the full xda site on my phone (I loathe all mobile versions of websites), and I have no complaints with lag. Scrolling around up and down, zooming in and out may not always be buttery smooth (mostly it is, but sometimes, zooming in and out can drop the frame rate to about 15/s while zooming), but I never experience a delay in scrolling/zooming, so I can't really call it lag. Maybe stutter.
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Okay another? Why is it that ppl do a factory reset on a new phone? I mean when I got my s2 I rooted it and loaded a rom so i never tested the difference. But why reset it though?
itiskonrad said:
As Namuna said, there are a lot of factors involved. I, for one, have no idea how the original nitro in the AT&T store runs. The second I got it, I rooted it and did a factory reset, and I have zero complaints about lag. I also go to the full xda site on my phone (I loathe all mobile versions of websites), and I have no complaints with lag. Scrolling around up and down, zooming in and out may not always be buttery smooth (mostly it is, but sometimes, zooming in and out can drop the frame rate to about 15/s while zooming), but I never experience a delay in scrolling/zooming, so I can't really call it lag. Maybe stutter.
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hyelton said:
Okay another? Why is it that ppl do a factory reset on a new phone? I mean when I got my s2 I rooted it and loaded a rom so i never tested the difference. But why reset it though?
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Could very well be a placebo. Could be some remnants of factory "crud" that gets cleared out only after a factory reset. I don't think you'll get any argument from anyone that it doesn't make any sense why this helps, but there's plenty enough folks that have done it (myself included) and will say it indeed makes a difference.

Okay I'm between 2 pphones. Need to know by 9 tommrow morning. HTC vivid. Or LG nitro
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hyelton said:
Okay I'm between 2 pphones. Need to know by 9 tommrow morning. HTC vivid. Or LG nitro
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Join the club! Join the club
If you don't mind some slight stutter here and there and don't need to run the latest and greatest looking games, definitely go with the Nitro.
The screen is GORGEOUS
Writing / reading email is a joy on this device.
Just to note, I'm pretty sure all of us here have custom launchers now. The default launcher is really slow, but Go launcher / Launcher Pro / ADW Launcher are pretty snappy.

I'm no Android expert, but with the Adreno 220 the Nitro should be able to run the latest and greatest looking games, right? Anyway, if you browse the web a lot and e-mail then pick this phone.

Yea I don't realty game. Just apps email and lots of web. Don't hate me for what I'm gonna ask. What about tethering? Can I tether on the stock rom while rooted? Cause this is a must. I have the unlimited plan. But 2 ddays out of the week I'm at a friends that has Hughesnet which is horrible to use. I only use about 100 MB during those 2 ddays so i don't abuse it
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8mileroad said:
I'm no Android expert, but with the Adreno 220 the Nitro should be able to run the latest and greatest looking games, right? Anyway, if you browse the web a lot and e-mail then pick this phone.
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The Adreno 220 is great, and so is the 1.5Ghz S3, but games aren't optimized for this resolution, or the current software that's running on the phone. I'm sure we will see a performance increase once we get ICS.

What abouth tethering
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Yea I don't realty game. Just apps email and lots of web. Don't hate me for what I'm gonna ask. What about tethering? Can I tether on the stock rom while rooted? Cause this is a must. I have the unlimited plan. But 2 ddays out of the week I'm at a friends that has Hughesnet which is horrible to use. I only use about 100 MB during those 2 ddays so i don't abuse it
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Tethering is possible without even rooting, but you'll have to install a 3rd party app on your phone and a program on your computer for what I do. I use PDAnet.

So software lag is not to bad compaired to the one in the store. Done root and factory reset and froze loads of apps. But typing and texting isbkinda horrid. I can be typing and sometimes it will stop and freeze while I'm typing then like a sec or 2 it will then type it. I have this issue when just testing :/ but I do love thebscreen

hyelton said:
So software lag is not to bad compaired to the one in the store. Done root and factory reset and froze loads of apps. But typing and texting isbkinda horrid. I can be typing and sometimes it will stop and freeze while I'm typing then like a sec or 2 it will then type it. I have this issue when just testing :/ but I do love thebscreen
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Something to keep in mind is that HTC Vivid uses the same CPU (the Vivid is clocked down to 1.2 GHz)/GPU combo as the Nitro, and the Samsung Skyrocket also. Other than the Nitro having a higher resolution screen to deal with, I'd imagine any drastic performance differences between the 3 phones would be down to software.

The Galaxy Nexus, even with roms, is not as fast as the Exynos GSII

I have a GSM Galaxy Nexus and it has AOKP build 25 with Fugomod kernel on it and this thing still is laggy. I tried many different roms and kernels and it still lags. I'm pretty sure my GSII was faster.
Some people say they have a buttery smooth Nexus and I'm jealous of you because mine feels like a 700mhz single core phone with 256mb of ram.
What's the deal? Why is it lagging (stock keyboard, browsing, app drawer, etc)
And I'm not trying to "bash". I want to keep the phone but the slowness is frustrating.
UPDATE 2/27/11 - I wiped my phone and flashed the Apex 1.02 Rom and now the phone is really fast. Some occasional hiccups but not a big deal.
I'm a very happy GN owner now.

You're holding it wrong.
Edit: somebody delete this thread, OP posted exact same post on a similar oriented thread..

bk201doesntexist said:
You're holding it wrong.
Edit: somebody delete this thread, OP posted exact same post on a similar oriented thread..
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I accidentally posted it in a thread I was reading.

You are either doing it wrong or trolling. My guess is trolling.

Aridon said:
You are either doing it wrong or trolling. My guess is trolling.
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So nobody can state their Galaxy Nexus is laggy? If so then you're a troll? I don't understand that logic.

I'm so sick of people comparing the galaxy nexus to the gs2. They are different classes of phones. The gs2 is running on a screen with a much lower resolution and an old version of android. If I take my PC which runs any game great on my 19" monitor and then connect it to my 46" HDTV the same games run laggy because my video card is working much harder to run the game at the higher resolution. Also if I play a game on windows xp and then play the same game on windows 7 the game tends to run slower because as operating systems evolve they tend to need more resources and also add new enhancements that add more strain on the hardware. I'm sure you can put android 4.0 on a HTC dream but will it run well? Not a chance because android 4.0 uses more juice then android 1.5 that the dream came with. I bet if you could install android 2.3 on the galaxy nexus it would fly like a bat out of hell.
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I came from an E4GT and my GN feels just as fast.

Put foxhound 1.1 stock,my phone runs buttery smooth and Ferrari fast,with 24hrs of battery,everything on,3hr screen. You gotta find the right rom kernel combo man.I pottered around with aokp and apex and Franco for 2 months and then tried foxhound one day. Never going back. Just keep at it. Its fun man.
And guys please don't flame the guy,its very distasteful.
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OMG MEGAHERTZ PROCESSOR RACE!!1
I don't quite get it. Is this a pissing contest? The Gnex runs way fast for a cellphone.
Maybe I'm getting old.

crossover37 said:
So nobody can state their Galaxy Nexus is laggy? If so then you're a troll? I don't understand that logic.
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cablemike01 said:
I'm so sick of people comparing the galaxy nexus to the gs2. They are different classes of phones. The gs2 is running on a screen with a much lower resolution and an old version of android. If I take my PC which runs any game great on my 19" monitor and then connect it to my 46" HDTV the same games run laggy because my video card is working much harder to run the game at the higher resolution. Also if I play a game on windows xp and then play the same game on windows 7 the game tends to run slower because as operating systems evolve they tend to need more resources and also add new enhancements that add more strain on the hardware. I'm sure you can put android 4.0 on a HTC dream but will it run well? Not a chance because android 4.0 uses more juice then android 1.5 that the dream came with. I bet if you could install android 2.3 on the galaxy nexus it would fly like a bat out of hell.
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Ok I get what you're saying but Google knew this so why didn't they add a more powerful GPU to handle these issues?

psycho2097 said:
Put foxhound 1.1 stock,my phone runs buttery smooth and Ferrari fast,with 24hrs of battery,everything on,3hr screen. You gotta find the right rom kernel combo man.I pottered around with aokp and apex and Franco for 2 months and then tried foxhound one day. Never going back. Just keep at it. Its fun man.
And guys please don't flame the guy,its very distasteful.
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I'll try foxhound, thanks.
What's your reason for not using the latest 18.4 Franco Kernel and instead opting for the 14.4 version.

crossover37 said:
I'll try foxhound, thanks.
What's your reason for not using the latest 18.4 Franco Kernel and instead opting for the 14.4 version.
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Unsure about that poster's experience, but 18.4 is awesome for me, and so far synergises really well with CM9.

crossover37 said:
So nobody can state their Galaxy Nexus is laggy? If so then you're a troll? I don't understand that logic.
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You said:
"Some people say they have a buttery smooth Nexus and I'm jealous of you because mine feels like a 700mhz single core phone with 256mb of ram."
That is so far outside the norm that you are either trolling, have a defective device or flashed and did something so screwed up that its messing with your device. So either:
1. Do a complete wipe, including formatting data, cache, dalvik and system. Install AOKP, gaaps with trinity kernel (basic one for all devices). Reboot. Download auto start manager and kill anything like maps or talk that you don't want running at startup. Go into settings and set cpu to 1.2, 400mhz with on demand or performance scaling. Set on boot checked. Reboot. Then tell me the phone is slow.
2. Don't use live wall paper. Most of them are not optimized for ICS
3. Return your device and get another one its broken.

My laptop is faster than your GSII.

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Ok I get what you're saying but Google knew this so why didn't they add a more powerful GPU to handle these issues?
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because google knows this is already powerful enough and the only place that it would make a difference is in benchmarks. Remember the nexus is the reference phone the developers are supposed to base their applications on. So in theory all app should run perfectly on all nexus devices. Basically any app made in 2012 should run perfectly on this phone. Think of it this way this is the minimum hardware requirements for apps and if a manufacturer goes beyond the specs its all gravy basically bragging rights but realistically this device has more than enough power to handle what google intended it for.
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I'll play since I've recently made the jump as well and I think I'm coming in with an "unbiased" opinion. Keep in mind I'm much happier with my GN than I was with my I9100, which I'm also keeping at least until kernel source is released for ICS. Using CM9 on the Nexus and using CM9 on the SGSII, no comparison for me, Nexus wins, hands down as far as fluidity and feel goes, ignoring the fact that so many things still don't work on the SGSII.
There are ever so slight cpu and gpu advantages that I've noticed on the SGSII. Very occasionally might be felt as a lag or stutter. For the most part however I find the GN "smoother" over all. Alternative launchers (Nova) lag for me on the GN going in/out of the app drawer, but removing widgets from the app drawer cured that. I may have to wait an extra second, maybe two, for the desktop to be fully fluid following a boot. I've never experienced keyboard lag, or alike.
In the end however, I didn't buy the GN because I thought it would kill the SGSII performance wise and the specs didn't lead me to believe that would be the case. A couple of non-performance or Android related things I really appreciate are the feel of the phone in my hand, and the action of the buttons. What I used to jokingly refer to as the "panty liner shape" of the phone is comfortable in my pocket.
It might take some more kernel experimenting on your part to find one that feels good for you. When I was on AOKP I found Leankernel to be absolutely buttery. Slight cpu/gpu advantages aside, I feel that the GN is the better phone overall and it's still a bloody fast unit, and my next device will be a Nexus as well. I'd say 95% of the time the phone feels as fast, and potentially more fluid, than my old phone.

So this year we're gonna have all these new quad core phones coming out which is great, but when the new version of android comes out we will get it right away and all those new quad core phones will be waiting up to a year to get it and by then the new version of android will be out yet again. You don't get a nexus phone for it's powerful processor look for it support and long term commitment. I had 5 android phones in the last year and I will never get anything other then a nexus because of all the stress I had trying to get updates for my other phones. My last phone the optimus 3 d was a very good phone butwe just got gingerbread a few weeks ago and lg is saying we will get ice cream sandwich in the third quarter f 2012. By then my nexus phone will probably have the new version of android. And I'm sure that lg will be dropping support for that phone because they'll have a new 1 out. But my nexus phone will most likely be supported through 2013.
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The OMAP SoC in the Galaxy Nexus is superior to that in the GS2. It was the best SoC available for the release date they wanted.
Maybe the Exynos can benchmark higher but as Fancisco pointed out
"Most GPU workloads on 4460 with a 720p screen are limited by the
memory bandwidth, not the GPU computation ability"
I am fairly sure the OMAP SoC we have has a much higher memory bandwidth than the GS2 ^.^

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The OMAP SoC in the Galaxy Nexus is superior to that in the GS2. It was the best SoC available for the release date they wanted.
Maybe the Exynos can benchmark higher but as Fancisco pointed out
"Most GPU workloads on 4460 with a 720p screen are limited by the
memory bandwidth, not the GPU computation ability"
I am fairly sure the OMAP SoC we have has a much higher memory bandwidth than the GS2 ^.^
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Not quite. Not sure about the exact memory channel speed but they both utilize same exact memory setup dual channel LPDDR2
OMAP was the SoC that Google chose
It's essentially a terrible choice with grossly outdated gpu in a platform where GPU will start to drive every day operation
This isn't to say that Mali400MP setup is the greatest in the GPU choice but eventhough it's inefficient, it's able to push through with raw power
I may get a bit of flake for this but Nexus does micro-stutter in some instances in places like the stock app drawer (this is addressed with nova launcher but question was does the GNex stutter).
I wouldn't blame the slight lagginess or stutters on the hardware just yet seeing how ICS is still fairly new and there is also the issue with maturity of apps running ICS.

Thanks guys for your responses. I'm not trying to be a pain; just annoyed that my old phone felt smoother.
I installed Apex rom and so far it feels very fast so hopefully it will stay this way. I kept the kernel that was packaged with the rom.
Another reason I thought it was slow was because I would type on the desktop site of XDA. Using the app doesn't cause the keyboard lag. It still is strange why the keyboard would lag like that while posting on XDA.

Galaxy nexus faster than galaxy s2 & sony xperia s?

I saw the review of the ics gs2 and at the end i saw some benchmarks... on the cpu side the nexus seems to hold its own againts the xperia s which on paper has a faster cpu snapdragon 3 1.5Ghz compare to omap 4460 1.2.. also gs2 seems to be slightly slower in the cpu benchmarks compared to Gnex.... What do you think?
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_ics_vs_gingerbread-review-737p4.php
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ray3andrei said:
I saw the review of the ics gs2 and at the end i saw some benchmarks... on the cpu side the nexus seems to hold its own againts the xperia s which on paper has a faster cpu snapdragon 3 1.5Ghz compare to omap 4460 1.2.. also gs2 seems to be slightly slower in the cpu benchmarks compared to Gnex.... What do you think.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_ics_vs_gingerbread-review-737p4.php
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gs2 is surely faster on graphics (it has a more advanced gpu, though clocked slower), but it has less screen resolution.
on the cpu side they should be pretty equivalent.
i don't know about the xperia.

In real world usage my SGS2 was significantly faster than my GNEX in every department barring taking a picture.

I wouldn't trust that much on benchmarks.
What matters is how polished the stock roms are for each device.
I love how the nexus keep running smooth even after installing a ton of apps, never experienced the same with other devices.

While the MSM8260 (Xperia S) is clocked faster, it has a single channel memory interface while the TI-OMAP 4460 (Galaxy Nexus) has a dual channel interface.
Also beware of those benchmark tools. Most of them are crap. For example they use the phone's resolution to do 2D/3D benchmark which is not a fair way to compare.

biffsmash said:
In real world usage my SGS2 was significantly faster than my GNEX in every department barring taking a picture.
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Was it significantly faster in getting updates?

Benchmarks are cool in a sense, but I've started ignoring them. My GNex has been really fast, even with Window and Transition Animations. There are exceptions. I ABUSE my Android devices with heat (nature of my work environment). When it gets hot, it does lag. At the same time, the CPU is also scaling itself back. When I get the rare lock'n'reboot it's pretty much always due to heat. Typically, flinging through settings, menus, apps, etc is really fast. Right now I have wireless tethering on and I'm streaming audio through Tune In. My battery is almost 120F. It's slower. Any device would be. If I pick up my Nook running CM7, it'll be slower right now too due to heat.
Benchmarks mean very little to me now. I mean, what's the point? What are you gonna do, brag about a superficial number? Get it engraved on your belt buckle? I think they can be an indication of certain aspects of a device, but benchmarks do not necessarily tell someone what kind of user experience that device is going to provide.
If I pick up my favorite device and I can do what I want to do quickly and smoothly then I'm fine with it. Even OCing a high end device is something I've never been able to tell a difference with. Now my Nook, yeah, an overclock worked wonders. On the GNex, pish, nah. Remember too, a lot of these 1.5Ghz devices are pushing a bloated framework too. Beyond that, ICS is going to have it's own limitations, especially when it has bugs to get worked out.
It can kinda be like cramming 16GB's of Ram into a PC running 32 bit Windows 7. The hardware addition is irrelevant and while you can brag about 16 gigs of ram to all of your friends, it's a pointless feature of your system.

one thing for sure is that software optimization means much more than hardware differences between those 3 phones.
thus, it depends on what you're going to run: stock, aosp, cyanogen, miui? that's the question.

zapek666 said:
While the MSM8260 (Xperia S) is clocked faster, it has a single channel memory interface while the TI-OMAP 4460 (Galaxy Nexus) has a dual channel interface.
Also beware of those benchmark tools. Most of them are crap. For example they use the phone's resolution to do 2D/3D benchmark which is not a fair way to compare.
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This. I think one of my favorite aspects of the nexus is its dual channel memory. So important for performance.

biffsmash said:
In real world usage my SGS2 was significantly faster than my GNEX in every department barring taking a picture.
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To me it seems exactly the opossite.. my gnex is faster than my gs2.... except in gaming.. the animations on the gs2 are different, than on the stock ics...
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My nexus is much faster at browsing than my wires gs2, and my work iphone4s..what? I didn't get to choose!
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I've used both the tmobile s2 and now the nexus....I'm a big time xda guy and root user so as the developers went to the nexus, I went to the nexus! Lol! If the s2 gets stock ics, it'll be just as good but that'll be a long time! We nexus users have had ics for months already!
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Simer03 said:
I've used both the tmobile s2 and now the nexus....I'm a big time xda guy and root user so as the developers went to the nexus, I went to the nexus! Lol! If the s2 gets stock ics, it'll be just as good but that'll be a long time! We nexus users have had ics for months already!
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We've had a pretty stable CM9 for the i9100 for quite a while now. But it still can't compare to the Galaxy Nexus....can't wait for mine to come

Just swapped over from the t989 gs2. The nexus is much smoother. We were always telling ourselves that our phones were better because of the supposedly better hardware... There were many threads Lol. Now that I have it I can see the experience doesn't even compare. Never buying anything touchwiz again

The gnex just isnt powerful enough?

I am on stock 4.2.2 with franco.kernel r366. Most of the time it runs ok but sometimes my gnex is laggy as hell, especially whwn downloading app from the Play Store. Sometimes waking to drvice can take 3-4 seconds and sometimes even more. I am using widgetlocker. Not mentioned Chrome which is laggy too. I really can't understand why my gnex act like that... I used my friend's HTC One X and its smooth all the time.
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bar_rodoy said:
I am on stock 4.2.2 with franco.kernel r366. Most of the time it runs ok but sometimes my gnex is laggy as hell, especially whwn downloading app from the Play Store. Sometimes waking to drvice can take 3-4 seconds and sometimes even more. I am using widgetlocker. Not mentioned Chrome which is laggy too. I really can't understand why my gnex act like that... I used my friend's HTC One X and its smooth all the time.
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Same on my moms gnex :/
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Well, there are big differences on the Gnex and HTC one X hardware. You cant just think that it will have the same performance.
The question is, do you really need a phone that is 100% smooth?
But android is becoming a heavy OS. Its natural to evolve this way, as well as hardware.

otaconc said:
Well, there are big differences on the Gnex and HTC one X hardware. You cant just think that it will have the same performance.
The question is, do you really need a phone that is 100% smooth?
But android is becoming a heavy OS. Its natural to evolve this way, as well as hardware.
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Smoothness is the most important features for me. I need my phone to be responsive all the time, that the reason I went back to stock from custom because custom gave me terrible performance, that making a call was an issue.
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bar_rodoy said:
Smoothness is the most important features for me. I need my phone to be responsive all the time, that the reason I went back to stock from custom because custom gave me terrible performance, that making a call was an issue.
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"Need". Otherwise you're probably going to have to buy a new device soon.

I can conquer.
When downloading from the Play store, It is extremely slow on various roms.
I believe the problem is the read\write speeds of the storage which is extremely slow.
too bad

yes, i have the same problem whem the app is installing. Its very slow and laggy. Its important to say that there are many apps for android that are poorly optimized, so even in a powerful hardware you may have some issues.
Considering Gnex is a mid end device, i think soon you have to change your phone to a high end if you want more smoothness and if you are willing to pay the price.

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This didn't happend on 4.1, so it's not a hardware issue
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Most apps are optimized for gingerbread. And of course its going to "lag" while doing intensive operations.
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I'm running stock and I haven't experienced any sort of lag or anomalies. Have you tried flashing stock to verify?

i disagree bro...
if you compare GNex with the smartphones with the same h/w config, u wud definatly agree dat its the best in its generation.

writing to disk normally slows the phone. Probably is more related to the OS than hardware.

No, just 4.2* is junk. Go back to 4.1.2 and you'll see the difference.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grilledmonkey.lagfix
This fixed a lot of lag the op was talking about. It trims the /data and /cache partition, which for some reason doesn't happen on this device but is required just like normal ssd drives.
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That app doesn't work on my device. I tried the app from chainfire I believe that checked if the device was bugged by that emmc trimming failure. Mine wasn't.
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