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[Q] defy buying help

Hi all,
i am thinking of selling my galaxy ace (1month old) and buying a defy. Though the problem is there is no service center of motorola in my whole state. I am from India. What i want to ask is this-
does this phone has any bugs or shortcomings which may lead me to visit a service center. Samsing galaxy ace has a sod bug.
I really cannot take the risk of buying this phone if it has any bugs which might appear later.
Scanned the forum. Seems like phone can have earpiece issues. Can any Indian user confirm that we are not hving this issue.
About mb525 or mb526, Is there any way to check this on the shop?
Thanks.

seems like mb526 hasn't released yet but there are leaked roms of 526 which are compatible with red lense defy.

If before buying, you can check that the phone has red lens, then there shouldn't be a problem for the earpiece. (most red lens donot have earpiece problems) you can also check by entering the IMEI # on the box, here: moto110.com check if your phone is manufacuted in late jan -feb or later, 2011, then there shouldn't be a problem.
apart from doing something that may brick you phone, there is not a high possibility that may lead you to a service center. Make sure you keep all the ports closed when not using them. ( USB and Headphone slots)
Regarding MB526, there is no official news from moto about that, but there are leaked versions of Gingerbread (2.3.3 & 2.3.4) which have device name set to MB526 by default. This may be a hint to a new Defy+ or Defy2. Just a hint.
In a shop in india, you probably wouldn't be getting defy as MB526. But who knows, maybe the shop is selling defys with 2.3.4 already flashed. Only way to check is by switching it on, then going to system settings to find that out. It would say:
Model number: MB526
Android version: 2.3.4

dude defy is the best handset..i surveyed alot b4 buying this beautiful handset..defy is worth it..dint have any probs till now..and dude motorola has service centre in every city..
MB526 is not yet out in the market...only leaked android 2.3.4 is out which was for mb526(which also runs on mb525).
no ear piece problem till now...everything runs smoothly
btw ACE sucks to be frank...even u will think like me once u use defy with custom ROM

arpith.fbi said:
dude defy is the best handset..i surveyed alot b4 buying this beautiful handset..defy is worth it..dint have any probs till now..and dude motorola has service centre in every city..
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dude moto doesn't even have a single showroom in UP & Uttarakhand, let alone a service center. This was the main reason of me buying ace.
I will be buying defy online. And they have a june model. So I think I am sold. Thanks a lot guys.

praky said:
dude moto doesn't even have a single showroom in UP & Uttarakhand, let alone a service center. This was the main reason of me buying ace.
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moto doesnt have exclusive showroom anywhere in india i guess..but as far as i know they have service centre in all cities..at my place there r 2 service centres..
same case with sony ericsson..they dont have exclusive showroom..coz they cant keep a whole shop just to showcase few mobiles..
i understand that sellers dont keep moto phones after they backed out of indian market..they say no one buys moto..
even i bought online as models were not available at my place..i had to go to bangalore just to see defy with my naked eyes ..to feel it in my hands..but online price was cheaper..so i bought it

arpith.fbi said:
moto doesnt have exclusive showroom anywhere in india i guess..but as far as i know they have service centre in all cities..at my place there r 2 service centres..
same case with sony ericsson..they dont have exclusive showroom..coz they cant keep a whole shop just to showcase few mobiles..
i understand that sellers dont keep moto phones after they backed out of indian market..they say no one buys moto..
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hey dude, how to check for a service center in my city?
no one buys moto because there are no ads. you know i can have near 10 exceptional ads keeping in mind water resistant features of defy.

The biggest complaint I see on the non-us moto forum for Defy Indian users is the phones they're buying for (or from) their carrier are all 2.1.
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/50767?tstart=0

[Q] Purchasing a new Phone
I'm also planning to buy Motorola Defy. But am not sure whether it would be a good decision or not. I live in India (presently at Kolkata, but would be shifting to Bangalore in a couple of months).
I have heard that the support of Moto over here is not impressive & I may land into trouble if there are some issues with the phone after the expiry of warranty period (coz many believe that most of the hardware inside moto aren't discrete & thus the whole board needs to be replaced). If this is true, the cost for repairing can be very high!
My second concern is the OS support. I don't know whats MB526 is actually. Do the new phones come with MB526 & no earphone problem?
What are the prerequisites, that I must check before buying this phone?

please guys this is moto and thats samsung !!
how u can compare ??
motorola = benz - bmw -
samsung = kia motor - lifan - ...

hei!how to check my moto defy manufracture date!
i used my imei and all of the code got behind the phone and i duno which one is msn number!
the site require msn number to check the manufracture date!help pls
edit: just checked with msn code on box
it is manufracture on january 2011
suppose not be problem for earpiece rite @@

Finally after a couple of months of deliberation i got my new Defy!
First check was camera lens colour and it was red! A check of the MSN number revealed that mine is manufactured on March 2011
After that i was pretty certain i got the BAYER camera but wanted to check that too so i ran adb and i got:
Code:
07-09 21:24:17.163 1233 1233 D LibCommonCamera: CameraCommon: Detected BAYER device
Gingerbread! Here i come!

Hi football fan, where did you buy from? And @ what price?

Hi football fan..me also looking forward to buy Defy after months of research
Well did u buy it from online..?'m looking it to buy from letsbuy or flipkart..!
and hows u r DeFy??

praky said:
hey dude, how to check for a service center in my city?
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just google
pritishnanda said:
My second concern is the OS support. I don't know whats MB526 is actually. Do the new phones come with MB526 & no earphone problem?
What are the prerequisites, that I must check before buying this phone?
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MB526 is a new defy model which will be released soon..
present defy model number is MB525.
OS support will always be there for defy officially or unofficially
As far as i know earphone problem is not an issue here.. very few people got this problem.
before buying a defy just make sure that it has red lens..coz all the new defy are red lens and will be red lens only.so support will only be fore red lens in future.
All the best

arpith.fbi said:
just google
MB526 is a new defy model which will be released soon..
present defy model number is MB525.
OS support will always be there for defy officially or unofficially
As far as i know earphone problem is not an issue here.. very few people got this problem.
before buying a defy just make sure that it has red lens..coz all the new defy are red lens and will be red lens only.so support will only be fore red lens in future.
All the best
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Dude any confirmation about MB526 releasing??actually 'm planning to buy defy if MB526 come i will wait..
read in some forums that it has speed of 1Ghz with gingerbread OS..
really confused now..

abirokz said:
Dude any confirmation about MB526 releasing??actually 'm planning to buy defy if MB526 come i will wait..
read in some forums that it has speed of 1Ghz with gingerbread OS..
really confused now..
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hardware is same in both mb525 and mb526...CM7 also comes with default overclocked to 1Ghz and gingerbread OS
well cant say when they will release mb526..still development in its OS is going on..final touches..u may have to wait alot !

arpith.fbi said:
hardware is same in both mb525 and mb526...CM7 also comes with default overclocked to 1Ghz and gingerbread OS
well cant say when they will release mb526..still development in its OS is going on..final touches..u may have to wait alot !
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Thanks for the info dude..
Seems to be go with MB525 is a better option i think..
Well MB526 got 1Ghz OMAP "3620" and 1700mAh battery these are the hardware differences i think..

abirokz said:
Thanks for the info dude..
Seems to be go with MB525 is a better option i think..
Well MB526 got 1Ghz OMAP "3620" and 1700mAh battery these are the hardware differences i think..
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not a big difference dude...CM7 in mb525 will deliver btr performance and hardly u may get 2 hrs extra on battery with 1700mAh

arpith.fbi said:
not a big difference dude...CM7 in mb525 will deliver btr performance and hardly u may get 2 hrs extra on battery with 1700mAh
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How will it deliver better performance? Does this oc the cpu to 1GHZ (the same as Gingerbread)?

It's really unlucky,my experiance on buying defy

I have pay attention to defy for a long time.And I really like it.Today,I have made up my mind to buy it!
How ever ,as you know,in Shenzhen ,Guangdong Province.there is so many JS in Hua Qiang Bei.May be I was not enough lucky to own a new one.When I recieve Defy,I found that,the phone is new, but the accessories have been replaced……

周矛顺啊 said:
......When I recieve Defy,I found that,the phone is new, but the accessories have been replaced……
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How do you know, the accessories have been replaced?
Can you attach the pictures of your defy's accessories?

Same happend to me,my charger was used and someone just put it back in box without any package I'm from Croatia btw.
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How to check the phone hardware

Hello
I have bought an note2, but.i hv resivr.it.as open box, so is there way or code.i can dail to check all the phone hardware so i can know if my phone got.prob or not
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saberzaid said:
Hello
I have bought an note2, but.i hv resivr.it.as open box, so is there way or code.i can dail to check all the phone hardware so i can know if my phone got.prob or not
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You shouldn`t have accepted a phone with a broken seal in the first place. You never know what happened to it and it may be a repaired device. As you should have warranty just keep it for now and i hope you will enjoy your phone mate

just check the SN on the invoice, compare it to the box, and the number under your battery (on your note), if everything is the same, then it should be ok. i myself always use this method to buy my gadget, some people are eager to buy the newest stuff and after couple of weeks they regret it and sell it sometimes much lower than retail price, their 'mistakes' is my gain

Water Proof test Xperia Acro S

Hello xda,
me and my friend have did the Xperia Acro S under water to see how it holds.
It did a very good job the music keeps playing and the screen is working fine so try it out if you really want to try it!
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsty2GrS1ZA&feature=plcp
Video 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSIx4v5y6Ak
Hope you liked it!
Greetings SK

safariking said:
Hello xda,
me and my friend have putted the Xperia Acro S under water to see how it holds.
It did a very good job the music keeps playing and the screen is working fine so try it out if you really want to try it!
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsty2GrS1ZA&feature=plcp
Hope you liked it!
Greetings SK
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putted is not a word. How does the phone perform? I am thinking of getting 1 or the ion or the htc one x

mikailmohammed said:
putted is not a word. How does the phone perform? I am thinking of getting 1 or the ion or the htc one x
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This is a very good phone it holds very good you can even use it as a hammer!

mikailmohammed said:
putted is not a word.
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Yes it is.

cracksquirrel said:
Yes it is.
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Technically yes, but not in the context the op used it in.

Great...awesome
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Does the screen actually work while wet?? And how well??

zackspeed said:
Does the screen actually work while wet?? And how well??
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Would be nice to see. Scuba phone

memphis77 said:
Would be nice to see. Scuba phone
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Need to remember - Only 1 meter down deep :silly:

What do you guys think about the water resistance of this phone while earphones are plugged in?
I'm not sure if it would survive a run in the rain while listening to music. But that's one thing i would like to do and also one of the reasons i bought this phone.
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it is water "resistance" so you will screw it if you put in on water when one of those ports covers are open or even not "properly closed"! but if you use a bluetooth headset you will be still fine cuz the cover is not open anymore! and under the water i just tried to unlock the screen but it didnt work "perfect"! the screen was still working but not perfect not as good as it works out of water but when the screen is wet out of water like when u just take the phone out of water it works good!

Brave man indeed lol XD

Afik it is only ip 56 or 57...
That is a looooong way from water proof...
So keep that in mind if you really want to test it...
And have a look at a ip list to see what ip56/57 really is about...
I would like to see a ip68 phone instead...
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^should be okay if the phone is not completely exposed. newer phone can be dunked in water briefly and still survive (iphone 4/ galaxy s3)

Xperia S - Still worth buying?

Hey there.
Planning to buy a new phone in April or May, and have narrowed it down to XS and S3 Mini.
Now, I love the XS design, camera and all other features. All in all, its quite an awesome phone. Just a few questions to be asked:
1. Are the capacitive buttons alright? I'm buying the phone online, so no chance to use. I've seen many people on video reviews saying they're hard to touch. Is it really that difficult?
2. Is the back cover a bit flimsy? I've seen in a couple video reviews them mentioning it easily comes off. Is this a big issue? Because I don't think I hold the phone so tightly for it to come off.
3. Is it still worth buying? Do note that I am going to use Stock for a month before switching to FXP CM10. And its a 2012 June phone, so yeah.
4. How do I go about saving all my SD card stuff on this? If I flash CM10, how do I retain the SD card stuff, which I would have transferred? I don't quite understand. And how will I go about with the mass storage? How does it work?
Thanks a bunch in advance. All replies, including useless, troll ones will be thanked with the button.
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My Name is Win, and if you are reading this, you have been defeated.

1. They are good... no problems for me
2. No, for me, i never pull out back cover while using phone or without want it
3. im using stock (now GB,, before ICS) and with root + delete a lot of blotware, its really smoth ...
4. I dont know what you mean, but its work like SD without remove it ... to pc connect via MTP, and on phone its like normal SD (i think its normal SD on motherboard but hidden)

mmm273 said:
1. They are good... no problems for me
2. No, for me, i never pull out back cover while using phone or without want it
3. im using stock (now GB,, before ICS) and with root + delete a lot of blotware, its really smoth ...
4. I dont know what you mean, but its work like SD without remove it ... to pc connect via MTP, and on phone its like normal SD (i think its normal SD on motherboard but hidden)
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Thanks so much for the reply. For the last question,
If I have songs and stuff on my ad card. I transfer them to the phone. I flash cm10, so do tyr transferred files remain like an SD card? Because I don't understand how this works.
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My Name is Win, and if you are reading this, you have been defeated.

Nothing would be formatted on the sd card, you would lose nothing when flashing roms.
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yes, its normal SD card, 32GB, then phone have 1GB rom .. if you flashed rom, it will wippe the 1GB..
its like you have 32GB SD card in the phone without chance to remove / change it ...

Lt. Win said:
Hey there.
Planning to buy a new phone in April or May, and have narrowed it down to XS and S3 Mini.
Now, I love the XS design, camera and all other features. All in all, its quite an awesome phone. Just a few questions to be asked:
1. Are the capacitive buttons alright? I'm buying the phone online, so no chance to use. I've seen many people on video reviews saying they're hard to touch. Is it really that difficult?
2. Is the back cover a bit flimsy? I've seen in a couple video reviews them mentioning it easily comes off. Is this a big issue? Because I don't think I hold the phone so tightly for it to come off.
3. Is it still worth buying? Do note that I am going to use Stock for a month before switching to FXP CM10. And its a 2012 June phone, so yeah.
4. How do I go about saving all my SD card stuff on this? If I flash CM10, how do I retain the SD card stuff, which I would have transferred? I don't quite understand. And how will I go about with the mass storage? How does it work?
Thanks a bunch in advance. All replies, including useless, troll ones will be thanked with the button.
- Lt. Win
My Name is Win, and if you are reading this, you have been defeated.
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I suggest you to buy phone with latest manufacturing so that you dont get yellow tint
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danlivesey said:
Nothing would be formatted on the sd card, you would lose nothing when flashing roms.
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mmm273 said:
yes, its normal SD card, 32GB, then phone have 1GB rom .. if you flashed rom, it will wippe the 1GB..
its like you have 32GB SD card in the phone without chance to remove / change it ...
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Oh, now I get it.
RISHI RAJ said:
I suggest you to buy phone with latest manufacturing so that you dont get yellow tint
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What is this Yellow Tint? I remember hearing somewhere that its fixable?
- Lt. Win
My Name is Win, and if you are reading this, you have been defeated.

I'd would wait for the Xperia z which would be realising it about may I think
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Li-polymers said:
I'd would wait for the Xperia z which would be realising it about may I think
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I would like to, but its going to be very expensive. I'm getting XS for 20k INR (~$360-365) online. That would be for like 30K. My budget ends on 21K tops.
Edit: Since I'm buying it online at eBay India, how do I avoid the yellow tint issue? What do I ask the seller?
- Lt. Win
My Name is Win, and if you are reading this, you have been defeated.

Lt. Win said:
I would like to, but its going to be very expensive. I'm getting XS for 20k INR (~$360-365) online. That would be for like 30K. My budget ends on 21K tops.
Edit: Since I'm buying it online at eBay India, how do I avoid the yellow tint issue? What do I ask the seller?
- Lt. Win
My Name is Win, and if you are reading this, you have been defeated.
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From where r u.Im also from India.I bought it from a retailer.Although i didnt know of that issue at that time but i was lucky.If u can confirm it to be 12W30 & beyond its safe.Sony replaces screen but its not as good as original one & yeah phone is worth buying
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RISHI RAJ said:
From where r u.Im also from India.I bought it from a retailer.Although i didnt know of that issue at that time but i was lucky.If u can confirm it to be 12W30 & beyond its safe.Sony replaces screen but its not as good as original one & yeah phone is worth buying
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How can I find out whether its 12W30 or not? Is it on the box or what?
- Lt. Win
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Lt. Win said:
How can I find out whether its 12W30 or not? Is it on the box or what?
- Lt. Win
My Name is Win, and if you are reading this, you have been defeated.
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Under battery cover on the sticker
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Hayden18 said:
Under battery cover on the sticker
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Oh, so I'll need to be lucky on this one. :/
- Lt. Win
My Name is Win, and if you are reading this, you have been defeated.

I paid 300$ for my brand new unlocked XS,I think it's worth it :good:

i have 12W8 and i dont have yellow tint... mybe im lucky

G.Trenchev said:
I paid 300$ for my brand new unlocked XS,I think it's worth it :good:
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Just 300? Nice.
I have to pay ~365 on eBay India and ~455 in shops. Anyway, by the time its April, prices would have dropped a bit I hope.
- Lt. Win
My Name is Win, and if you are reading this, you have been defeated.

i pay 120€ for my, 1,5 year warranty, complete with no damage