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[Q] To S-OFF or not

I recently found someone who can S-OFF my VZW One for 60$ or so. Only problem is they have to open my phone and according to the email I got, there will be "signs of light scratches" on the aluminum due to how easy it is to scratch and "signs of entry" due to prying.
Should I bother sending my phone in and get it back scuffed up or just wait for a software based S-OFF?

Sonic2756 said:
I recently found someone who can S-OFF my VZW One for 60$ or so. Only problem is they have to open my phone and according to the email I got, there will be "signs of light scratches" on the aluminum due to how easy it is to scratch and "signs of entry" due to prying.
Should I bother sending my phone in and get it back scuffed up or just wait for a software based S-OFF?
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sounds like they have to take the phone apart to get go some things.
(based upon S-OFF method on the Rezound using a paper clip_
but that had a removable battery. so idk man
I would do this if S-OFF doesn't come in like 4-6 months

Sonic2756 said:
I recently found someone who can S-OFF my VZW One for 60$ or so. Only problem is they have to open my phone and according to the email I got, there will be "signs of light scratches" on the aluminum due to how easy it is to scratch and "signs of entry" due to prying.
Should I bother sending my phone in and get it back scuffed up or just wait for a software based S-OFF?
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I think what you should do is borrow the $60 from a friend and if you don'd like the job the guy did, or you don't like the phone itself, sell it with the S-OFF and pay your friend back and make a profit. That's what a friend of mine said he might do wile we were discussing this situation in a Skype call.

ribo911 said:
I think what you should do is borrow the $60 from a friend and if you don'd like the job the guy did, or you don't like the phone itself, sell it with the S-OFF and pay your friend back and make a profit. That's what a friend of mine said he might do wile we were discussing this situation in a Skype call.
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Lol Ryan
Anyway, he's had the phone for a bit you know, he likes it enough. What he's mainly concerned about is physical damage or paying and then having a free software tool released a week later.
I'm still thinking it's better to wait since you want a stock room anyway, and you know you can wait and save money, too.
Besides, the One is a great phone stock, anyway.

isoh said:
Lol Ryan
Anyway, he's had the phone for a bit you know, he likes it enough. What he's mainly concerned about is physical damage or paying and then having a free software tool released a week later.
I'm still thinking it's better to wait since you want a stock room anyway, and you know you can wait and save money, too.
Besides, the One is a great phone stock, anyway.
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Only question is "when". Not even the S4 has an unlocked bootloader and that's been out for a while :/.
I was hoping that root bounty thread would at least bring a out of it but that died out quick.

Sonic2756 said:
Only question is "when". Not even the S4 has an unlocked bootloader and that's been out for a while :/.
I was hoping that root bounty thread would at least bring a out of it but that died out quick.
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The only thing is you have to think: is this really important to me? Will I ever regret this? The bloatware seems to be under control for the most part and the rooted apps you could get aren't life changing. To be honest, rooting is pretty lame. It's exciting until you do it. It's neat and all but I don't think it's worth $60...buyers remorse always sucks more than Verizon's ROM.
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Sonic2756 said:
I recently found someone who can S-OFF my VZW One for 60$ or so. Only problem is they have to open my phone and according to the email I got, there will be "signs of light scratches" on the aluminum due to how easy it is to scratch and "signs of entry" due to prying.
Should I bother sending my phone in and get it back scuffed up or just wait for a software based S-OFF?
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I don't think I would believe this person unless they were a close personal friend of yours.
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Sonic2756 said:
I recently found someone who can S-OFF my VZW One for 60$ or so. Only problem is they have to open my phone and according to the email I got, there will be "signs of light scratches" on the aluminum due to how easy it is to scratch and "signs of entry" due to prying.
Should I bother sending my phone in and get it back scuffed up or just wait for a software based S-OFF?
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Its called Jtagging and is not new. Basically they are taking the phone apart, and reflashing it. Totally possible. Problem here is the htc one is notoriously hard to take apart without damage, expect damage to the device if you go this route.

jcase said:
Its called Jtagging and is not new. Basically they are taking the phone apart, and reflashing it. Totally possible. Problem here is the htc one is notoriously hard to take apart without damage, expect damage to the device if you go this route.
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Haha, I saw this. The review from iFixIt or whatever its called where they tear down the phone piece by piece and rate by repairability. It rated, on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being easy to repair.....drumroll.........a 1, lol. Because of how hard it is to disassemble. Apparently HTC has this sucker bonded together quite well.
In any event, you have a HUGE factor to consider here with the jtagging. As much as I'm a proponent of s-off, it only benefits you if its a public s-off method that everyone has (being developers). Say you send in your phone, get s-off, then what? Nobody else is even unlocked, except very few of us. Its the same instance as we're in right now, a couple of us have unlocked devices, but there's only 2/3 devs, and only a handful of people who can use the roms. Snail racing, lolz.
Honestly, I'd wait till s-off becomes public through an exploit or something, otherwise you have nothing.

There's also the JavaCard S-Off exploit which has been mentioned a few times on the One forums. Haven't heard from anyone who has actually done it though, so not much else I can say on it.

karn101 said:
There's also the JavaCard S-Off exploit which has been mentioned a few times on the One forums. Haven't heard from anyone who has actually done it though, so not much else I can say on it.
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Actually just talked with some friends and we might be getting a java card with 250 or so uses in the next 2 weeks or something. Apparently it works on any 1.54 HTC phone so I'm assuming the VZW One is included .

karn101 said:
There's also the JavaCard S-Off exploit which has been mentioned a few times on the One forums. Haven't heard from anyone who has actually done it though, so not much else I can say on it.
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Is this like the new-age xtc clip?
Speaking of, whatever happened to that thing. I still have one laying around but I haven't seen any new development in a long time.

Sonic2756 said:
Actually just talked with some friends and we might be getting a java card with 250 or so uses in the next 2 weeks or something. Apparently it works on any 1.54 HTC phone so I'm assuming the VZW One is included .
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If this ever happens, let me know. I will gladly pay you for service

PapaSmurf6768 said:
If this ever happens, let me know. I will gladly pay you for service
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Ordering one later tonight. If it works on my one I'll probably do a $15-20 mail me your phone I mail it back type deal. Will provide proof once I get it and test it etc.

Sonic2756 said:
Ordering one later tonight. If it works on my one I'll probably do a $15-20 mail me your phone I mail it back type deal. Will provide proof once I get it and test it etc.
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Awesome!

Sonic2756 said:
Actually just talked with some friends and we might be getting a java card with 250 or so uses in the next 2 weeks or something. Apparently it works on any 1.54 HTC phone so I'm assuming the VZW One is included .
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can I claim one of these 250 spots?

andybones said:
can I claim one of these 250 spots?
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Sure. I just got proof that everything is legit and it should be here on tuesday!

Sonic2756 said:
Sure. I just got proof that everything is legit and it should be here on tuesday!
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What state are you in? If semi local I'd pay for the service and go to you.
I would in fact most likely buy one myself if you can direct me to this card.
Couldn't this theoretically mean a dev could run code through the SIM slot if it were programmed with the HTCDev unlock bin? I assume there must be a way for a user to program their own SIM code and unlock/S-off that way and revert back to signed code after the process. (I'm thinking in flow charts as I have yet to do any more than minor app development on Android, just trying to help)

rmaccamr said:
What state are you in? If semi local I'd pay for the service and go to you.
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Colorado

Sonic2756 said:
Colorado
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Mail it is, though I am still reluctant knowing so few have the exploit so it's not like many developers have eyes on ROMs atm.

[Q] I'm screwed, dropped a friend's n7 on the 2nd day

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Seadra said:
He bought it yesterday , so I'm really ****ed. I talked to him on the phone and he was somewhat crying as he was hardly able to afford this after selling his laptop , as it's in India and it's really expensive in India. He didn't buy it from Google, so no RMA there.
I dropped it, sides got scratched :crying:. The scratches isn't on the back cover or the display. It's on the very sides (between the screen and the back) I don't know what that part is called, it's a glossy black which is rounded on the screen, may as well be a part of the screen.(I hope not)
I can I think afford 30-40$ max to get his tablet fixed, not more than that unfortunately. He bought it for 390$(Indian price).
Please Please, help a fellow member out I was about to root this thing for him so he can have some goodies but sooo unfortunate of this event. It's 12AM right now and I will be meeting him at 11AM tomorrow and I really don't want him to get much worried(not that he already is) and he is my best friend so that can ruin our friendship aswell :crying::crying::crying:
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Not sure how you're going to find that particular part for it, much less find it for 40 bucks or less, maybe buy him a fosman TPU case to cover up the markings.
Might be helpful if you posted a pic.

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You can't repair the screen like that.
Full replacement or none at all.
Either he forgives you which is going to be hard, under the circumstances you mentioned or you sell your Nexus 5 and buy him a new Nexus.
Then, take his old Nexus, sell it and buy another phone for yourself.

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Seadra said:
Thing is we both are students, if i try to sell my n5, my parents won't allow me to do that.
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Wow! Definitely sucks for both of you! Sometimes doing a favor for a friend will turn around and bite you on the ass! I'm not going to comment about if you end up having to sell your N5 to make it right and your parents have a problem with it. I think you know that you have to make it right, even if it means using a dumb phone for a while. Talk to your friend, see what he wants you to do, suck it up!

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Seadra said:
Yeah, I know. I'll try everything to make this right.
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Awesome! I feel for you! I've rooted a lot of devices for friends and family but I've been lucky so far!

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Seadra said:
hehe(smiling after like 12hrs), anyways this will be my last device. I won't ever bring someone's phone or tab or help them with their stuff. Will help them only when it's with them.
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You have to use your best judgement! I personally don't want to be buying anyone a new device unless maybe she is damn good looking and willing to show some gratitude! Otherwise....

T-a mobile gives me a hard time....

The first time I had the LG G3 I went to return it for an exchange at the last day (my 14th) day. As a result I got into an argument with the sales representative about the display. I told her that the digitizer is visible on mine and it bugs the crap out of me, and so I wanted to excersize my right for an exchange for another G3. Then she started spewing nonsense and saying things like "Well you can't really see it, so it's not a big deal", etc. Well it is a pretty big deal if you buy a $600 product.
We ended up exchanging the phone 2 times straight that day. The second G3 I got had an extremely visible digitizer and the screen had a bad yellow tint. The third G3 was the last they will give me and they made it very clear to me that no matter what it is they won't exchange it. Guess what? It still has a more visible digitizer than my original one and the color temperature was still allot warmer. My whites look...yellowish.
I'm sorry for the rant, but why would those employees give me such a hard time trying to exchange a product? Its rediculus. Now I'm stuck with one worse than the original when it comes to the screen...

Funny never ever ever had a problem returning a phone with in the 14 days
also they will do that if you returned it a time or 2 already it cost the store money each time you do and exchange
also if your a PITA customer lol they will give you a hard time just for the fun of it

It cost the store money end of the day its business

Yeah and I believe their personal statistics (or the store's) are marred due to returns and exchanges.

helikido said:
The first time I had the LG G3 I went to return it for an exchange at the last day (my 14th) day. As a result I got into an argument with the sales representative about the display. I told her that the digitizer is visible on mine and it bugs the crap out of me, and so I wanted to excersize my right for an exchange for another G3. Then she started spewing nonsense and saying things like "Well you can't really see it, so it's not a big deal", etc. Well it is a pretty big deal if you buy a $600 product.
We ended up exchanging the phone 2 times straight that day. The second G3 I got had an extremely visible digitizer and the screen had a bad yellow tint. The third G3 was the last they will give me and they made it very clear to me that no matter what it is they won't exchange it. Guess what? It still has a more visible digitizer than my original one and the color temperature was still allot warmer. My whites look...yellowish.
I'm sorry for the rant, but why would those employees give me such a hard time trying to exchange a product? Its rediculus. Now I'm stuck with one worse than the original when it comes to the screen...
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I've seen you post about this type of thing in a couple of different places. I think you're being too picky. I think it's very unlikely 3 G3s in a row had problems.

bigkevbosky said:
I've seen you post about this type of thing in a couple of different places. I think you're being too picky. I think it's very unlikely 3 G3s in a row had problems.
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The first one had a minimal visible digitizer with a nice toned display. But it had backlight bleeds on the edge. The second one was just completely washed out with an extremely visible digitizer that it was just exchanged on the spot. The third one I had no choice but to keep, but the digitizer was not as visible and the display still had a yellow tint compared to the original.
If you ask me for $600 I have all the right to exchange the phones all the way until I final have a good one without any physical flaws.

Didn't you return your G3 for dust too? How many have you tried? Gosh you really are trying to break the record of some guy on G+ returning like 10 different G3's at T-Mobile and AT&T. Then he gets mad at T-Mobile for them having to mail him a check even though he paid cash. I think he did that twice. lmao Don't tell that's you? lol

This is more lg's problem. Perhaps you should take it up with them instead of the middle man I bet you would actually get somewhere.

sweets55 said:
Didn't you return your G3 for dust too? How many have you tried? Gosh you really are trying to break the record of some guy on G+ returning like 10 different G3's at T-Mobile and AT&T. Then he gets mad at T-Mobile for them having to mail him a check even though he paid cash. I think he did that twice. lmao Don't tell that's you? lol
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That was the first one. The second one was exchanged again on the spot for an obvious faulty display.
ThePagel said:
This is more lg's problem. Perhaps you should take it up with them instead of the middle man I bet you would actually get somewhere.
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What are my chances of actually getting a good phone with LG vs T-mobile?

I hate the fact that all the gray colors on my G3 have a yellow tint to them now. Man this kinda blows. Even with I use trickster mod.

helikido said:
That was the first one. The second one was exchanged again on the spot for an obvious faulty display.
What are my chances of actually getting a good phone with LG vs T-mobile?
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If you tell them what happend at the tmobile store, complain politely and ask them to make sure its good before they send it I bet its a for sure thing

helikido said:
The first time I had the LG G3 I went to return it for an exchange at the last day (my 14th) day. As a result I got into an argument with the sales representative about the display. I told her that the digitizer is visible on mine and it bugs the crap out of me, and so I wanted to excersize my right for an exchange for another G3. Then she started spewing nonsense and saying things like "Well you can't really see it, so it's not a big deal", etc. Well it is a pretty big deal if you buy a $600 product.
We ended up exchanging the phone 2 times straight that day. The second G3 I got had an extremely visible digitizer and the screen had a bad yellow tint. The third G3 was the last they will give me and they made it very clear to me that no matter what it is they won't exchange it. Guess what? It still has a more visible digitizer than my original one and the color temperature was still allot warmer. My whites look...yellowish.
I'm sorry for the rant, but why would those employees give me such a hard time trying to exchange a product? Its rediculus. Now I'm stuck with one worse than the original when it comes to the screen...
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I can consider myself very lucky for owning a flawless unit then.

I know if you came in to my store and tried that you would have gotten turned way and told to take it up with LG since we would have allowed you 1 exchange NOT 2 or 3

ThePagel said:
If you tell them what happend at the tmobile store, complain politely and ask them to make sure its good before they send it I bet its a for sure thing
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Think you have to send your phone to LG so you would need another phone. I don't think it's a quick process and I doubt they look over the phone with a magnifying glass to see the slightest thing wrong if it's even wrong. I guess worth a shot. If it was me I would've just returned it and got a different phone or wait a month and try again.

sweets55 said:
Think you have to send your phone to LG so you would need another phone. I don't think it's a quick process and I doubt they look over the phone with a magnifying glass to see the slightest thing wrong. I guess worth a shot. If it was me I would've just returned it and got a different phone or wait a month and try again.
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Yeah it will take a week at the minimum to get the new phone more likely 2 - 3. I would have done the same thing as you and got the m8 or s5. Luckily I got a great phone and didn't need to.

sweets55 said:
Didn't you return your G3 for dust too? How many have you tried? Gosh you really are trying to break the record of some guy on G+ returning like 10 different G3's at T-Mobile and AT&T. Then he gets mad at T-Mobile for them having to mail him a check even though he paid cash. I think he did that twice. lmao Don't tell that's you? lol
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Do you have the G+ link for that?
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This thread reminds me about being on MacRumors and people talking about how they had returned like seven iPads until they got one that didn't have one of the several ridiculously impossible to notice defects.
This is why I'm glad I don't work retail any more. It made me wish there was a policy to be allowed to slap customers for being absurd.

CheesyNutz said:
I know if you came in to my store and tried that you would have gotten turned way and told to take it up with LG since we would have allowed you 1 exchange NOT 2 or 3
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I know if you tried to do that with me I would be sure to put you in a very very tough position when it comes to your job. If you sell me something, it better be as damn good as it was advertised. If you exchange a faulty product, it better be better and not WORSE than the one I just had.
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If you tell them what happend at the tmobile store, complain politely and ask them to make sure its good before they send it I bet its a for sure thing
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Yes but the problem is that with LG I have to send in the phone. That's something I cannot afford to do since I have no spare phones. Can they not just send me a unit and then I ship mine back?
SomeGuyDude said:
This thread reminds me about being on MacRumors and people talking about how they had returned like seven iPads until they got one that didn't have one of the several ridiculously impossible to notice defects.
This is why I'm glad I don't work retail any more. It made me wish there was a policy to be allowed to slap customers for being absurd.
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If you can not see the flaw, you must be blind. Sorry. But the display models and the first G3 I had where all cooler than the one I currently have...by a good margin. So no, its a very VISIBLE flaw. Well I wouldn't call it a flaw, but out of the ordinary characteristic.

helikido said:
I know if you tried to do that with me I would be sure to put you in a very very tough position when it comes to your job. If you sell me something, it better be as damn good as it was advertised. If you exchange a faulty product, it better be better and not WORSE than the one I just had.
Yes but the problem is that with LG I have to send in the phone. That's something I cannot afford to do since I have no spare phones. Can they not just send me a unit and then I ship mine back?
If you can not see the flaw, you must be blind. Sorry. But the display models and the first G3 I had where all cooler than the one I currently have...by a good margin. So no, its a very VISIBLE flaw. Well I wouldn't call it a flaw, but out of the ordinary characteristic.
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Indecision on the definition of flaw? I think you need a new hobby...this phone thing doesn't seem to be working out for you.
Sent from my amazing LGG3!

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Indecision on the definition of flaw? I think you need a new hobby...this phone thing doesn't seem to be working out for you.
Sent from my amazing LGG3!
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Got plenty of hobbies, and this phone thing worked out with me for 5 years just fine.

Three replacements and four phones in thirty days. . .

So the first phone was new and had crackling speakers. Second phone that was sent to me was refurbished and had a smudge underneath the screen so it wasn't cleanable unless I opened the hw. Third refurbished phone had a glass gap between the screen and the base of the phone, so there was bleeding light coming from the back of the phone. Now T-Mobile is sending me a fourth refurbished (most likely) phone.
All the replacements seen to be refurbished.
Imagine. . .I played for S-Off each time and a screen protector each time. That's around $140 ($25x4 + $10x4) USD just on replacement bs.
Anyone else having these issues?
I unrooted, restored stock ota, re locked, and re s-oned the first two devices (fourth device is coming 6/1/15) to restore original (warranty) status despite all these issues being hardware related. Keep in mind I'm no newb to phones.

ahrion said:
So the first phone was new and had crackling speakers. Second phone that was sent to me was refurbished and had a smudge underneath the screen so it wasn't cleanable unless I opened the hw. Third refurbished phone had a glass gap between the screen and the base of the phone, so there was bleeding light coming from the back of the phone. Now T-Mobile is sending me a fourth refurbished (most likely) phone.
All the replacements seen to be refurbished.
Imagine. . .I played for S-Off each time and a screen protector each time. That's around $140 ($25x4 + $10x4) USD just on replacement bs.
Anyone else having these issues?
Keep in mind I'm no newb to phones.
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If you are not new to the phone section, you would not pay for s-off everytime before you check the phone for defects or whatever. So you could save a lot of money,
if you check your device with Pixel test and eyes before you set it s-off
Other then that, i do not have any problems with the phone. Its a huge improvment from m7 build quality to m9.

SoLdieR9312 said:
If you are not new to the phone section, you would not pay for s-off everytime before you check the phone for defects or whatever. So you could save a lot of money,
if you check your device with Pixel test and eyes before you set it s-off
Other then that, i do not have any problems with the phone. Its a huge improvment from m7 build quality to m9.
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I already checked for defects. However it was only noticeable during the night. As for the smudge, it can be taken off with a microfiber, however once the oil of the skin touches the screen it comes back. All of these were freak incidents.
Pixel test has nothing to do with my problems with the phones as I have no dead pixels.
Like I said, definitely very aware of my phone and its uses. I've had every phone out there and do numbers of different ports for audio. So its not like this is my first rodeo.

ahrion said:
So the first phone was new and had crackling speakers. Second phone that was sent to me was refurbished and had a smudge underneath the screen so it wasn't cleanable unless I opened the hw. Third refurbished phone had a glass gap between the screen and the base of the phone, so there was bleeding light coming from the back of the phone. Now T-Mobile is sending me a fourth refurbished (most likely) phone.
All the replacements seen to be refurbished.
Imagine. . .I played for S-Off each time and a screen protector each time. That's around $140 ($25x4 + $10x4) USD just on replacement bs.
Anyone else having these issues?
Keep in mind I'm no newb to phones.
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nope i saw tons of M9 go and come back with no issues, except clicky speakers and the company in here is not covering that, even some iPhone units suffers from something similar
state your country please

hamdir said:
nope i saw tons of M9 go and come back with no issues, except clicky speakers and the company in here is not covering that, even some iPhone units suffers from something similar
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U.S.A.

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U.S.A.
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that's strange are you sure HTC is sending refurbs in the US, maybe its a carrier issue?
please try to get in connect with some of HTC members on twitter like @ urbanstata

hamdir said:
nope i saw tons of M9 go and come back with no issues, except clicky speakers and the company in here is not covering that, even some iPhone units suffers from something similar
state your country please
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T-Mobile is very generous as they credited me $60 at no hassle or haggling. They've sent me several replacements with no hassle. However they said if the third replacement they send me is defected, they'll allow me to choose a swap of the M9 for another phone. . .which is not what I want because I like this phone.

ahrion said:
T-Mobile is very generous as they credited me $60 at no hassle or haggling. They've sent me several replacements with no hassle. However they said if the third replacement they send me is defected, they'll allow me to choose a swap of the M9 for another phone. . .which is not what I want because I like this phone.
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like i said lots of HTC's nice guys on twitter, get in touch
https://twitter.com/urbanstrata
https://twitter.com/JasonMacHTC

Sorry to hear that you're having issues getting a unit without defect. I ordered my developer edition phone a few days after it was available and it showed up in perfect condition. I had read about issues regarding gaps at the screen and body, and a "clicky" area at one of the screen boundaries, however my phone was free of all of those. My old M7 had one pixel that would only display in white, but I kept it and was very happy with it.
Bottom line - I hope you get an M9 that you are happy with, because this phone is awesome. As hamdir notes in the sticky thread at the top, the upcoming firmware update brings great improvements to daytime camera performance and battery performance. HTC continues to show themselves as a company dedicated to delivering a great experience for their customers.

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Sorry to hear that you're having issues getting a unit without defect. I ordered my developer edition phone a few days after it was available and it showed up in perfect condition. I had read about issues regarding gaps at the screen and body, and a "clicky" area at one of the screen boundaries, however my phone was free of all of those. My old M7 had one pixel that would only display in white, but I kept it and was very happy with it.
Bottom line - I hope you get an M9 that you are happy with, because this phone is awesome. As hamdir notes in the sticky thread at the top, the upcoming firmware update brings great improvements to daytime camera performance and battery performance. HTC continues to show themselves as a company dedicated to delivering a great experience for their customers.
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That's all good and stuff. . but it's the hardware that is failing this device. All these defects. Don't get me wrong, I love my phone. However this is not okay for me and shouldn't be acceptable for anyone else.
I just want my phone to work as intended.

ahrion said:
That's all good and stuff. . but it's the hardware that is failing this device. All these defects. Don't get me wrong, I love my phone. However this is not okay for me and shouldn't be acceptable for anyone else.
I just want my phone to work as intended.
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You appear to be the exception and not the rule with regard to defective M9s. If you hold out for an M9 that meets your standards, I think you'll be very pleased with the device. Good luck!

I ended up with 3 of them at one point. Got to choose between two grey and one gold silver. One of the greys had phucked up speakers. Kept it for a few weeks prior to paying for S off... What kind of momo would pay 25 USD the second they receive the phone. Ended up paying $450 cdn for one after all the credits they gave me for the hassle.

Andrewbud said:
I ended up with 3 of them at one point. Got to choose between two grey and one gold silver. One of the greys had phucked up speakers. Kept it for a few weeks prior to paying for S off... What kind of momo would pay 25 USD the second they receive the phone. Ended up paying $450 cdn for one after all the credits they gave me for the hassle.
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Sounds like me. Hah

I wish I'd sent mine back. Horrid battery and camera experience with this one

If it makes you feel better, I went through 3 Galaxy S6s with defects before I went to the M9. Yeah, I'm not happy with this onr, but it's more the camera and the heat that's ruining my experience. I'm just not sure why the hell you paid for S-Off 4 times. After the first, I would have waited to make sure the phone was FLAWLESS.

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If it makes you feel better, I went through 3 Galaxy S6s with defects before I went to the M9. Yeah, I'm not happy with this onr, but it's more the camera and the heat that's ruining my experience. I'm just not sure why the hell you paid for S-Off 4 times. After the first, I would have waited to make sure the phone was FLAWLESS.
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Trust me. I did. Until I looked at the phone when it was dark. For now on I'm going to be running tests every time I get a phone.

Is the replacement with T-Mobile or asurion? Or another private insurance..I remember with my wifes note4 they gave us a new phone right there in the store..and it was past the 15 days return policy...but then again it was Verizon not T-Mobile

xavierxxx2p said:
Is the replacement with T-Mobile or asurion? Or another private insurance..I remember with my wifes note4 they gave us a new phone right there in the store..and it was past the 15 days return policy...but then again it was Verizon not T-Mobile
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They do it from asurion for some reason?

Hello boys and girls.
Would you be so kind to explain me how to understand if my htc one m9 is refurbished? Tried ##778# code and it does not work for me. And my phone is not rooted also.
Thank You in advance.
Best Regards,

So the third replacement they sent me (fourth phone) was also defected. So I finally called @HTC and explained to them what happened. They're sending me a new device, not some cleaned up BS used device. The one they will send me is going to be brand new. Good guys HTC (warranty).

Received my phone today: very slight cosmetic damage

Hi everyone,
Yes I do mean very slighly but I can be very OCD about such things. I'd value an opinion on whether this is acceptable or not so. Please see links
thanks:!

all I can say is that I did not had those
however, they don't look that bad

yeah, i prob would not be happy, u never know what could be wrong them with the phone or if it was just done during production, i would try to do an exchange before the return period is over

Bradl79 said:
yeah, i prob would not be happy, u never know what could be wrong them with the phone or if it was just done during production, i would try to do an exchange before the return period is over
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Yeah I hear you. 99% of the people wouldn't be bothered or wouldn't notice. Don't you just hate when this happens . I'll give it a day or two and then decide.

Jeroen1000 said:
Yeah I hear you. 99% of the people wouldn't be bothered or wouldn't notice. Don't you just hate when this happens . I'll give it a day or two and then decide.
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Complain. They might offer some money back or a free case or something. Lay it on thick

Free case aint enough. Tell them 20% off, as device looks like used/refurbished. If they don't agree, return it and order again.
Device that is new, should look as new, not used.

Those pics are terrible but I don't need them, have a similar problem. My antenna lines aren't perfect, there are some micro gouges and what looks like wear. Same on my OnePlus 5 that I returned. Mine is minor and I'll live with it but yours might be worse, can't see.
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Free case aint enough. Tell them 20% off, as device looks like used/refurbished. If they don't agree, return it and order again.
Device that is new, should look as new, not used.
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20%, you are a dreamer lol.

Getting mine delivered tomorrow, I really hope I don't run into issues like this one

I created a complaint so let's see what happens. I probably could live with it so I'd take some form of compensation over having to wait for a new unit. But it appears to be sold out...So replacing it might take a long time:crying:

droidhd said:
Free case aint enough. Tell them 20% off, as device looks like used/refurbished. If they don't agree, return it and order again.
Device that is new, should look as new, not used.
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A used/refurbished 5t xD
My sides are gone

Got my replacement...guess what, now it is way worse. I hope they'll replace it again without much fuzz.

Jeroen1000 said:
Hi everyone,
Yes I do mean very slighly but I can be very OCD about such things. I'd value an opinion on whether this is acceptable or not so. Please see links
thanks:!
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Did u have to send urs in first then they replaced it or did they send u one and sent urs back

Bradl79 said:
Did u have to send urs in first then they replaced it or did they send u one and sent urs back
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They inspect the one you send in first. If it is free of damage/passes inspection they will send out the replacement.

Jeroen1000 said:
Got my replacement...guess what, now it is way worse. I hope they'll replace it again without much fuzz.
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You are acting ridiculous over something that has no effect whatsoever on the performance of the phone, will not be seen by anyone with a case on and will be indistinguishable from actual wear and tear after a few days of ownership. It's $500-600 phone not a million dollar piece of artwork.
I too have OCD about certain things but this is just absurd.
Edit: Now if there was a real defect like the screen was damaged, the camera lens cover was scratched or something along those lines I would totally understand where you are coming from. But for something as trivial as a smudge I think you are just making a mountain out of a molehill and missing out on time you could be enjoying an awesome performing device. If you look hard enough, you'll always be able to find something wrong with everything. Im sure OnePlus wont keep sending you replacement after replacement so you'll either have to live with the smudges you will find on every device or they will refund your money, in which case you just gave them a nice interest free loan for over a month.

I'm with the OP, the marks may be very small but he paid for a new device. Mine was unmarked, theirs should be too. It's weird.