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I have a perm rooted g2 using cyanogen 6.1 r3... When the OTA update comes out will it affect my rooting in any way or add and extra security features..i know I'm not the only one wondering so does anyone have any input?
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Tman0604 said:
I have a perm rooted g2 using cyanogen 6.1 r3... When the OTA update comes out will it affect my rooting in any way or add and extra security features..i know I'm not the only one wondering so does anyone have any input?
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Why don't you do a google search? There's a lot of information out there... even the 250 page Gingerbread user manual has been released.
It's basically just an improved UI with some extra **** added in.
it will make you more awesome and sexier to the ladies eyes, consequently, you will get laid like crazy bro....
I've never received an OTA while running a custom ROM. If you're running rooted stock, I'd keep my eyes peeled for news here before installing it, just in case it will do something to root.
Otherwise, I like to be surprised so I know very little about it other than near field communications will be built into Gingerbread.
Also, Gingerbread will go back in time and kill Hitler.
infamousjax said:
why don't you do a google search? There's a lot of information out there... Even the 250 page gingerbread user manual has been released.
It's basically just an improved ui with some extra **** added in.
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Tman0604 said:
I have a perm rooted g2 using cyanogen 6.1 r3... When the OTA update comes out will it affect my rooting in any way or add and extra security features..i know I'm not the only one wondering so does anyone have any input?
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You won't get an OTA if you're running a custom ROM. But Cyanogen is bound to come out with a 2.3 version way before any official OTAs. I can't imagine it'll affect rooting etc because everyone running Cyanogen will want their phones to stay rooted.
Stevie have you misunderstood Sleef?
Official OTA updates could maybe affect ease of rooting,... when 2.1 landed for the Hero those who jumped in head first and applied the OTA got stuck for about 2 months until a new method was found.
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Stevie have you misunderstood Sleef?
Official OTA updates could maybe affect ease of rooting,... when 2.1 landed for the Hero those who jumped in head first and applied the OTA got stuck for about 2 months until a new method was found.
EDIT.... STEVIE.... Apologies, you were quoting/responding to the OP, not Sleef.
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EDIT.... STEVIE.... Apologies, you were quoting/responding to the OP, not Sleef.
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Yeah, I was, no problem. But thanks for adding the additional info, which I should have done really - which is as you say that if course you're on a *stock* ROM and are rooted/S-OFF you should not accept/apply an OTA until it's been verified it won't lock you out of root/S-OFF !
any 2.3 ota will most certainly change the way we have to root, and it might be a while until someone works out how to do it again.
Custom 2.3 roms will be out pretty quick, even if its just a rooted stock so you have no real need to accept any ota that is offered once rooted.
It'll help you get a gf because somehow she'll realize that despite you not owning an iphone, you have gingerbread!
hehe
I probably could have been a little less vague.
Also, I'm positive that someone who knows what they're doing will take the OTA and make a flashable ROM out of it so eager folks can take it for a spin without actually applying the OTA themselves. 2.3 CyanogenMod shouldn't be too far behind.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but should the source code be made available, a dev could make a working ROM even before the G2 specific OTA, right?
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Sorry this is a little off topic but I was on my cousins rooted droid x. I went on rom manager and there were much more providers for roms.
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Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but should the source code be made available, a dev could make a working ROM even before the G2 specific OTA, right?
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AFAIK,... The 2.3 source from Google is out,... but the 2.3 kernel from HTC is still needed before anything stable can be built (instead of trying generic builds not specifically for our device so all hardware/features will not work). HTC usually release their source after releasing the update.
Someone please correct me if I am wrong....
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AFAIK,... The 2.3 source from Google is out,... but the 2.3 kernel from HTC is still needed before anything stable can be built (instead of trying generic builds not specifically for our device so all hardware/features will not work). HTC usually release their source after releasing the update.
Someone please correct me if I am wrong....
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I don't think the source code is out yet, just the SDK. Shouldn't need a 2.3 kernel from HTC to make a stable build, I'm sure Cyanogen is up to the job.
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I don't think the source code is out yet, just the SDK. Shouldn't need a 2.3 kernel from HTC to make a stable build, I'm sure Cyanogen is up to the job.
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Aha,... ok.
I assumed there would be a problem going from 2.6.32 (froyo kernel) to 2.6.35 (gingerbread) as that is where there were holdups on the Hero. Fingers crossed then.
.... a teeny bit OT... Has anyone heard of Bumptop? Or is it just me that didn't know what it was? Google took over earlier this year, and it does resemble the 3d gallery + the Android 3.0 tablet video. Just installed to my laptop,... Very nice, even without a touchscreen. Maybe that is what we have to look forward to next year?
Now that I know I can get ladies with gingerbread this will help me a lot -_-
But those of you that actually put real info thanks lol...I just getting more into android development and just want to make sure nothings gonna get messed up if I do get the ota update..cyanogen I'm sure is gonna have it ready shortly, seeings how they broke froyo pretty quick. In all entirty I was just making sure if wouldn't add s back ok somehow and increase security features.
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Gingerbread has been released to developers.
http://developer.htc.com/
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You can flash this only via RUU (and probably from SD card if you extract rom.zip). OTA is not available.
Were are all the people that ranted that there is no Gingerbread update now!
Lol, anyone has tested it?
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You can flash this only via RUU (and probably from SD card if you extract rom.zip). OTA is not available.
Were are all the people that ranted that there is no Gingerbread update now!
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There still technically isn't as most of the comments seemed to be for an OTA update.
So, is that it? Or can we expect more? As it stands, it's a big "take your ****ing GB and don't come running to us expecting support, suckers!"
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So, is that it? Or can we expect more? As it stands, it's a big "take your ****ing GB and don't come running to us expecting support, suckers!"
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Wait, let me guess - you won't be buying another HTC device unless you get moar?
awesome
I don't care if there is more, I'm happy with my installed ROM. I'm just in awe of htc's way of doing things, which I find inappropriate to say the least.
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i dont get what the big fuss over getting gingerbread from htc is, we already hav more gb roms than you can imagine to choose from, i can understand someone that hasnt a clue about android and there phone, they see there getting an update and think happy days, but surely all the people that are on xda should hav knowledge of rooting and stuff, so they dont need gingerbread as they already should hav it, im using xjs miui conversion and couldnt care less if htc release gingerbread, doesnt put me off buying another htc phone, ramble over lol
Any rooted realese?
I can only talk for myself, and in my case what bothers me is the whole " Gingerbread? yes! no! yes but not whole!" followed by nothing more than a developers build, released last minute. That's just f'ed.
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i try my best not to take any notice, yes its hard because its all you seem to see here, the thing is htc make brilliant phones, and while there making brillliant phones and the cleverer devs are rooting them and making amazing roms then we have nothing to worry about
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I can only talk for myself, and in my case what bothers me is the whole " Gingerbread? yes! no! yes but not whole!" followed by nothing more than a developers build, released last minute. That's just f'ed.
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Indeed. If they announce Gingerbread update via Facebook, it should be an update that the average Facebook user can actually get to their phone.
If they had announced here that a developer build was coming, that would have been ok. Then again, as a whole the amount of support for Desire wouldn't have been, only the announcement part.
timestamps on the files seem to suggest they have had this ready since 15th - 22nd july.
fairly last minute considering testing period
I don't remember them announcing it will be an OTA release. Even more, there was a rumor it might be a ruu. So they delivered the update on schedule, but you jumped to conclusions based on something they never promised, and now it is a problem too. It is not HTC's problem if majority of population who inhabitate Facebook's pages are idiots or not. Which they probably are
Bah so no on the air update? that sucks.
anyone checked to see if it is S-Off?
So that means that we normal users (unrooted) cannot install it?
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So that means that we normal users (unrooted) cannot install it?
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you can instlal it by running the RUU on your laptop with the phone connected simples
it will unroot and reset to factory defaults
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I don't remember them announcing it will be an OTA release. Even more, there was a rumor it might be a ruu. So they delivered the update on schedule, but you jumped to conclusions based on something they never promised, and now it is a problem too. It is not HTC's problem if majority of population who inhabitate Facebook's pages are idiots or not. Which they probably are
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"Hi everyone. We have more news about our build of Gingerbread for Desire. Our testing has gone well so we will begin rolling out the update by the end of July! Thank you again for your support!"
Ok.
Where is the rumor that it might be a ruu?How many times HTC released a rom by ruu, on any device???
The update on schedule was "by" not "at"...
"Testing has gone well" - that means that the update is in developer state or ready to release?What that means to you, smartass?
"It is not HTC's problem if majority of population who inhabitate Facebook's pages are idiots or not. Which they probably are " - do you have a Facebook page, moron? If you do, do you feel a little bit "idiotic"?
Doing some searching online and not to many people seem to have my version. Is there a reason for that? Does anyone know when the update is gonna come for my version the WiFi issue is bugging me. Thanks for your help.
Same version here pal, I think it's an Asian-HK version or at least that's what the CID application says
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BTW, from what I've read here, the OTA update should be available on the beginning of May.
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dino024 said:
Doing some searching online and not to many people seem to have my version. Is there a reason for that? Does anyone know when the update is gonna come for my version the WiFi issue is bugging me. Thanks for your help.
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I have the same version. But I am running a custom ROM now so not really worried about the update just yet. I might go back to stock later on when the update does come out for the HK version.
Hey guys,
I recently bought my one x and i want to root it eventually and right now i would like to leave it as it is. But i want it also to update via the official updates. Will it be harder or even impossible to root afterwards if i update?
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I would update personally as there are many nice fixes/improvements in the new updates.
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I would update personally as there are many nice fixes/improvements in the new updates.
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Yes but will it affect rooting process?
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and313 said:
Yes but will it affect rooting process?
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If you plan on unlocking your bootloader via the HTC Dev route then not really.
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It might affect your ability to get S-Off, but we don't know as we don't have S-Off.
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If you plan on unlocking your bootloader via the HTC Dev route then not really.
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Ok thanks
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and313 said:
Hey guys,
I recently bought my one x and i want to root it eventually and right now i would like to leave it as it is. But i want it also to update via the official updates. Will it be harder or even impossible to root afterwards if i update?
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You should go root, update, and flash a custom ROM. From my experience, my One X is my first super phone after jumping over from a crappy Nokia phone.
The first day when I got my phone, I got all excited with playing around it. I've been reading lots of stuff here on XDA. It was very tempting to root in on day one, but I managed to let it stay. But immediately, the day after, I risked it all and tried to root it, even if I don't have any experiece or background on handling an Android device.
All the hardwork payed off and just this morning, I updated my phone to ARHD 7.2.0 on stock kernel. Everything feels better right now than what I had on day 1.
But in the end, it is still your choice if you want to hack your phone or not. But trust me, it's worth it.
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You should go root, update, and flash a custom ROM. From my experience, my One X is my first super phone after jumping over from a crappy Nokia phone.
The first day when I got my phone, I got all excited with playing around it. I've been reading lots of stuff here on XDA. It was very tempting to root in on day one, but I managed to let it stay. But immediately, the day after, I risked it all and tried to root it, even if I don't have any experiece or background on handling an Android device.
All the hardwork payed off and just this morning, I updated my phone to ARHD 7.2.0 on stock kernel. Everything feels better right now than what I had on day 1.
But in the end, it is still your choice if you want to hack your phone or not. But trust me, it's worth it.
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Damn you i will stay on the stock for a week or so just to see that everything is ok and after that... Flashing
What do you mean with arhd?
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Hey did you unlocked the bootloader to?
Root is fine.. But to have a custom rom we need to have bootloader unlocked right?
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Hey did you unlocked the bootloader to?
Root is fine.. But to have a custom rom we need to have bootloader unlocked right?
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As far as i know. Use htcdev to unlock bootloader
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Right. Go to HTCdev website to unlock.
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monchee said:
You should go root, update, and flash a custom ROM. From my experience, my One X is my first super phone after jumping over from a crappy Nokia phone.
The first day when I got my phone, I got all excited with playing around it. I've been reading lots of stuff here on XDA. It was very tempting to root in on day one, but I managed to let it stay. But immediately, the day after, I risked it all and tried to root it, even if I don't have any experiece or background on handling an Android device.
All the hardwork payed off and just this morning, I updated my phone to ARHD 7.2.0 on stock kernel. Everything feels better right now than what I had on day 1.
But in the end, it is still your choice if you want to hack your phone or not. But trust me, it's worth it.
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Totally agree. I've had Android for a while now and my first few I kept stock for that reason, the OTA updates. Kept my Hero and Desire on stock. I then got a DHD and now have a One X and both of these I rooted and flashed custom ROMs and can honestly say was best decision I made. There are spme quality ROMs and developers in this community. As long as you do your research you shouldn't find it too hard, theres very good guides on here. I am also running ARHD 'cause I like the stock look but its so much smoother and quicker. Most devs are also very good at keeping up with the official updates too (If not quicker in many cases.).
Like monchee said its your choice, but personally I don't think I could have a device now without root and custom ROM!
Hope this helps
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divyanshu308 said:
Hey did you unlocked the bootloader to?
Root is fine.. But to have a custom rom we need to have bootloader unlocked right?
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You need to unlock bootloader to get root too.
I would suggest waiting at least a couple of weeks to see if you have any defects as HTC are refusing to repair unlocked phones in many instances.
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Of course. I just tought the officiall htc ota's would do their job better. I had a legend before i bought the one x and i really enjoyed s-off,cwm and root.
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Here is a place to discuss the current methods of S-Off.
We have Sonic2765's java card which will always work, and a promised method from beaups.
Sonic's Java Card will work on any device.
Sonic's thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427960
Beaups method will work on any device even with the minor OTA that was released.
So, it seems safe to take the OTA, but I am not responsible if this is incorrect.
This is amazing! Was waiting for this since I didn't have another phone to use so I could send mine to Sonic. Also glad that beaups said that it WILL work with the latest OTA! Just glad for an exploit since my original One had to be exchanged...
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Beaups method will work on any device even with the minor OTA that was released.
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That, sir, is great news. Cause I'm sick of getting reminded to update..
Any idea if he hopes to release sometime soon? Or after 4.3 is released?
More than likely after 4.3 would be my guess. We wouldn't want verizon to include a fix for the exploit with 4.3 causing a delay in the release. I don't know for sure, just my guess.
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Yea, I think waiting would be a good idea.. AT&T certified their 4.3 recently and it's rolling out now.. hopefully VZW is not far behind. I need FREEDOM!!
Shame... VZ is supposed to release it at the very end of October. Personally, I would rather have it released now
I mean, if he just released it and we had a thread warning everyone wouldn't that be fine?
This is awesome news!
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I mean, if he just released it and we had a thread warning everyone wouldn't that be fine?
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I agree, most of us will be running custom roms anyway, so there would be no reason really to ota, and also no reason why someone won't just make a safe flashable zip for us after ota is released... The only way the soff method would suck is if they patched it and people with replacement after the update, or just new phone owners wouldn't be able to do it, which is kinda a big deal...
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It just needs to be released now. Everyone knows or should know not to take an ota. Ones who takes it well they deserve to possibly be blocked from the exploit. Is he waiting because there maybe issues with his method? Seemed like in the past when an exploit was found it was released rather quickly. Waiting for 4.3 on Verizon will be waiting 6 months. They never released an update when they said they would.
Just give us the root method and collect your bounty
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I don't know shall we wait until after 4.3? I suppose even if we wait nothing will stop Verizon from releasing a small ota even after the 4.3 release to patch the exploit. so waiting may not have much benefit ..
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I agree, most of us will be running custom roms anyway, so there would be no reason really to ota, and also no reason why someone won't just make a safe flashable zip for us after ota is released... The only way the soff method would suck is if they patched it and people with replacement after the update, or just new phone owners wouldn't be able to do it, which is kinda a big deal...
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There will always be that problem with getting replacement phones but with Verizon we know how slow they are for getting updates out. I remember the method for rooting the bolt was the same for years until ics came out.
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I agree, most of us will be running custom roms anyway, so there would be no reason really to ota, and also no reason why someone won't just make a safe flashable zip for us after ota is released... The only way the soff method would suck is if they patched it and people with replacement after the update, or just new phone owners wouldn't be able to do it, which is kinda a big deal...
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yea...but someone who is going to s-off should have the common sense to read the forums before updating...plus most people that are planning on buying ones already have bought them
With the news of the root method found I am sure we will see many people who left the one come back and people considering the one but waiting for a root exploit will now buy the one.
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Super excited to see this happen. This phone is unreal running stock. I just hate having stock anything. I modify everything I own lol cars, computers, tablets, phones, u name it. If I buy it I tweek it.
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Dark Jedi said:
It just needs to be released now. Everyone knows or should know not to take an ota. Ones who takes it well they deserve to possibly be blocked from the exploit. Is he waiting because there maybe issues with his method? Seemed like in the past when an exploit was found it was released rather quickly. Waiting for 4.3 on Verizon will be waiting 6 months. They never released an update when they said they would.
Just give us the root method and collect your bounty
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It will be released when beaups feels that it is ready to be released. He is probably taking his time to make the process as safe as possible for as many people as possible. Just because he found a method doesn't necessarily mean that it is safe and easy to use in its current form. Be patient and be glad that it exists at all.
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Thats a valid point, I just don't see benefit in waiting. but like nexus said, they could release a small patch right after 4.3 and we would have the same outcome. or they may find this exploit before we even release it and the will just patch it in 4.3 either way. But i would like to thank beaups for putting in the time and effort! I know this stuff isn't easy so thanks!
I wish he would make a thread so people could give him thanks and he could give us updates on the process.
I'm not waiting on any vzw updates. Just need to get everything done. It will be done "soon".