Here is a place to discuss the current methods of S-Off.
We have Sonic2765's java card which will always work, and a promised method from beaups.
Sonic's Java Card will work on any device.
Sonic's thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427960
Beaups method will work on any device even with the minor OTA that was released.
So, it seems safe to take the OTA, but I am not responsible if this is incorrect.
This is amazing! Was waiting for this since I didn't have another phone to use so I could send mine to Sonic. Also glad that beaups said that it WILL work with the latest OTA! Just glad for an exploit since my original One had to be exchanged...
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Beaups method will work on any device even with the minor OTA that was released.
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That, sir, is great news. Cause I'm sick of getting reminded to update..
Any idea if he hopes to release sometime soon? Or after 4.3 is released?
More than likely after 4.3 would be my guess. We wouldn't want verizon to include a fix for the exploit with 4.3 causing a delay in the release. I don't know for sure, just my guess.
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Yea, I think waiting would be a good idea.. AT&T certified their 4.3 recently and it's rolling out now.. hopefully VZW is not far behind. I need FREEDOM!!
Shame... VZ is supposed to release it at the very end of October. Personally, I would rather have it released now
I mean, if he just released it and we had a thread warning everyone wouldn't that be fine?
This is awesome news!
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I mean, if he just released it and we had a thread warning everyone wouldn't that be fine?
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I agree, most of us will be running custom roms anyway, so there would be no reason really to ota, and also no reason why someone won't just make a safe flashable zip for us after ota is released... The only way the soff method would suck is if they patched it and people with replacement after the update, or just new phone owners wouldn't be able to do it, which is kinda a big deal...
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It just needs to be released now. Everyone knows or should know not to take an ota. Ones who takes it well they deserve to possibly be blocked from the exploit. Is he waiting because there maybe issues with his method? Seemed like in the past when an exploit was found it was released rather quickly. Waiting for 4.3 on Verizon will be waiting 6 months. They never released an update when they said they would.
Just give us the root method and collect your bounty
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I don't know shall we wait until after 4.3? I suppose even if we wait nothing will stop Verizon from releasing a small ota even after the 4.3 release to patch the exploit. so waiting may not have much benefit ..
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I agree, most of us will be running custom roms anyway, so there would be no reason really to ota, and also no reason why someone won't just make a safe flashable zip for us after ota is released... The only way the soff method would suck is if they patched it and people with replacement after the update, or just new phone owners wouldn't be able to do it, which is kinda a big deal...
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There will always be that problem with getting replacement phones but with Verizon we know how slow they are for getting updates out. I remember the method for rooting the bolt was the same for years until ics came out.
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I agree, most of us will be running custom roms anyway, so there would be no reason really to ota, and also no reason why someone won't just make a safe flashable zip for us after ota is released... The only way the soff method would suck is if they patched it and people with replacement after the update, or just new phone owners wouldn't be able to do it, which is kinda a big deal...
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yea...but someone who is going to s-off should have the common sense to read the forums before updating...plus most people that are planning on buying ones already have bought them
With the news of the root method found I am sure we will see many people who left the one come back and people considering the one but waiting for a root exploit will now buy the one.
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Super excited to see this happen. This phone is unreal running stock. I just hate having stock anything. I modify everything I own lol cars, computers, tablets, phones, u name it. If I buy it I tweek it.
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Dark Jedi said:
It just needs to be released now. Everyone knows or should know not to take an ota. Ones who takes it well they deserve to possibly be blocked from the exploit. Is he waiting because there maybe issues with his method? Seemed like in the past when an exploit was found it was released rather quickly. Waiting for 4.3 on Verizon will be waiting 6 months. They never released an update when they said they would.
Just give us the root method and collect your bounty
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It will be released when beaups feels that it is ready to be released. He is probably taking his time to make the process as safe as possible for as many people as possible. Just because he found a method doesn't necessarily mean that it is safe and easy to use in its current form. Be patient and be glad that it exists at all.
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Thats a valid point, I just don't see benefit in waiting. but like nexus said, they could release a small patch right after 4.3 and we would have the same outcome. or they may find this exploit before we even release it and the will just patch it in 4.3 either way. But i would like to thank beaups for putting in the time and effort! I know this stuff isn't easy so thanks!
I wish he would make a thread so people could give him thanks and he could give us updates on the process.
I'm not waiting on any vzw updates. Just need to get everything done. It will be done "soon".
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Rumors of ota coming to fascinate, inc, and inc2.
https://twitter.com/#!/TeamAndIRC/status/81435662510850048
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'oly shizzle.
Yes! This just made my day.
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jcase is saying that it's froyo. bummer.
I wonder if it's just a maintenance update, or to unlock bootloader? They did say not to expect GB until August right? lol
PS. Excited for whatever it is.
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jcase is saying that it's froyo. bummer.
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Erm...the Inc2 has Froyo....
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I wonder if it's just a maintenance update, or to unlock bootloader? They did say not to expect GB until August right? lol
PS. Excited for whatever it is.
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Pretty certain that it won't unlock. It isn't GB, but it'll be nice to have some bug fixes.
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Erm...the Inc2 has Froyo....
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No, I know. I'm just saying that the OTA isn't an update to GB. It'll still be 2.2.
Maybe its a preperation patch for a future bootloader patch. Or just a bug fix patch yea.. either way anything is better than nothing!
This maybe still just rumor but some one in fascinate forum posted they looked earlier in Twitter postings and said it maybe GB. Honestly don't think it is either but we'll see when it come.
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please let it be a GB/unlocked bootloader combo~ PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE~
but back to reality, it's likely going to be a froyo with an unlocked bootloader, that would be my guess
Either one would work for us GB would be nice hut as ling as we get an unlock that would be nice.
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TeamAndIRC ✔ jcase 16 hours ago
inc update is GB, thunderbolt is froyo, inc2 is froyo
http://forum.androidcentral.com/verizon-droid-incredible-2/
Why doesn't the Inc2 just jump on GB? Will this just be 2.2.2? Hopefully, the extra .1 will be more than just bugfixes.
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Why doesn't the Inc2 just jump on GB? Will this just be 2.2.2? Hopefully, the extra .1 will be more than just bugfixes.
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It could still be Android 2.2.1 with HTC software bug fixes (ie: for sense/rosie).
This already reminds me of the old Eris forums and rumors of 2.1 for the longest time
Ahhhh...
I loved the days before Xmas as a kid.
At least then I knew when it was coming
That's the idiocy of not shipping these new phones with the latest software. It just creates chaos like this. Ridiculous.
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Moved to proper section.
Unlocked bootloader please
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From HTC today:
"I understand that you are wondering when the Incredible 2 will have its boot loader unlocked. We’re pleased to announce that we have heard everyone’s comments and constructive suggestions and have decided to go forward with this initiative. We currently don’t have information regarding which existing phones will be unlocked. Keep an eye on our official website and official social media outlets for announcements about which phones will be bootloader unlocked and when."
I'm a little concerned. With everyone here rooted and on custom roms, noone will get the OTA update. That means we have to rely on outside sources for the availability of that update. That also means we will have to unroot/go back to stock to get the update. That just seams like a lot of wasted time. I'm going back to stock right know so I don't waste any time.
Then again, maybe it would be better to get it a couple hours after it is released. I mean with sprints network pushing all those updates at once.... waiting might even be faster.
From what i've seen most of the time the ota is leaked here before its released.
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From what i've seen most of the time the ota is leaked here before its released.
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No that was not THE ota but an ota most of the leaks supported ota flash and we will know when the ICS kernel source is released and when you look at your phone and it says there is a firmware update lol
Lol i haven't received an ota on any device since i joined xda
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You will know. It will be posted on BGR, Brief Mobile, Android Police, etc. Sprint usually lets the world know a few days before the OTA is sent. Chances are it is that it will be the last RDF that is posted before they announce.
On the old Epic the source was usually dropped the night before the OTA started. There's always someone lurking on stock and you get a topic on the forum stating "Have OTA notification can someone help me pull it?"
So, in conclusion, there's no cause for alarm.
Plus not everyone here is rooted. There are those that prefer unrooted stock. I can't imagine why but they exist
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Plus not everyone here is rooted. There are those that prefer unrooted stock. I can't imagine why but they exist
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Like me!!
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Lol i thought sprint wasnt doing one for our phones!? Lol jk.. hope i dont miss the official ota update and source.. that would suck! Hahaha. Op, its impossible to miss it.. im sure there are many sprint ppl lurking these threads that will probably let us kno before it happens
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Seeing has how we've been waiting for months...and the E4GT is a popular phone I think you'll see something about it on every tech blog.
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Plus not everyone here is rooted. There are those that prefer unrooted stock. I can't imagine why but they exist
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Rooting doesn't prevent the OTA from installing. Modifying or deleting system files with your root power is what causes the OTA to fail.
If you install the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN OneClick, the OTA will install file. It will disable your root, as all official OTAs do.
Won't our phones get the OTA notification regardless what build/ROM is installed?
Depends if the app that handles the updates was disabled/removed, never present, or still active.
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Makes sense.
Do you know what app handles that and how to check and see if it's still in operation?
That was my thinking before too. When I first installed custom roms with ek02. I thought how I would have get the next OTA update. I just waited until the developer of the ROM i'm using updates it to the latest build. now I don't feel the need to accept any future OTA updats. Plus it will break root anyway, if you didn't change any system files. Might as well wait a few days and get the update with the ROM of your choice. you can always download the OTA update later on and install it manually if you want too. I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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Makes sense.
Do you know what app handles that and how to check and see if it's still in operation?
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I think it is System Updates, but might be Smart Device Manager.
The process to check for updates is distinct from the one that bugs you to install after it is downloaded. They may or may not be in the same app.
Why would you want the official OTA update when you can wait no more than a day and one of our amazing devs will have it rooted and ready to use like any other leak so far.
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Why would you want the official OTA update when you can wait no more than a day and one of our amazing devs will have it rooted and ready to use like any other leak so far.
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LOL Glad I came to the second page... I was just about to post pretty much the same thing.
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Why would you want the official OTA update when you can wait no more than a day and one of our amazing devs will have it rooted and ready to use like any other leak so far.
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Oh trust me that's exactly what I'm going to do but was adding to the conversation for people truly curious and interested in receiving the OTA.
I don't see myself ever running plain old stock again. I'm too spoiled now. lol
I saw that all HTC One carrier variants (hopefully including verizon) will get the 4.3 update by October. Will it be harder to obtain root, s-off, or an unlocked bootloader with the update?
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Arbybear said:
I saw that all HTC One carrier variants (hopefully including verizon) will get the 4.3 update by October. Will it be harder to obtain root, s-off, or an unlocked bootloader with the update?
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There will be custom Roms far before the ota. Never ever take an ota...
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There will be custom Roms far before the ota. Never ever take an ota...
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unless you're not rooted
Then go ahead and take the OTA.
I know I'll take the 4.3 update if I'm not rooted.
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unless you're not rooted
Then go ahead and take the OTA.
I know I'll take the 4.3 update if I'm not rooted.
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I still wouldn't. Who says that we find a security hole on current version but not the new one then you're still stuck.
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I still wouldn't. Who says that we find a security hole on current version but not the new one then you're still stuck.
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well with everyone saying that nobody wants to release a root exploit that'll be patched by 4.3, I would guess that devs would rather root 4.3 than 4.2.2
I am not sure if it works this way with bootloader unlocking and all but I remember reading back in the Windows XP days that exploits would come out after a patch. The exploit guys would see what was patched and then exploit that knowing not everyone had applied the update. So I am going to wait a little bit if an OTA comes out just in case someone can look at what was patched and find a way in.
If you want root, never take an OTA.
End. Of. Story.
If you do not.
OTA away
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I am not sure if it works this way with bootloader unlocking and all but I remember reading back in the Windows XP days that exploits would come out after a patch. The exploit guys would see what was patched and then exploit that knowing not everyone had applied the update. So I am going to wait a little bit if an OTA comes out just in case someone can look at what was patched and find a way in.
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THIS is exactly why you DO NOT EVER take an OTA if you want root.
prime example, the SG4 just got an OTA, it literally didn't update much of anything except take root + recovery away from those foolish enough not to listen to the warnings
I'm unlocked and I usually run stock Rom's. When the first OTA came out I just took it. I lost root but all I had to do was flash my super su zip and I was back in business. Why wouldn't I just be able to do the same with this next OTA?
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I'm unlocked and I usually run stock Rom's. When the first OTA came out I just took it. I lost root but all I had to do was flash my super su zip and I was back in business. Why wouldn't I just be able to do the same with this next OTA?
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Verizon blocking that exploit...
Never_ever_ever
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Look at what happened with the Galaxy S4... the OTA killed them.
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Look at what happened with the Galaxy S4... the OTA killed them.
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we got the safestrap but, yea NEVER OTA!
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Never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever.... ever take an ota! There is literally no reason to because a custom ROM based on out will be out soon.
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Never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever.... ever take an ota! There is literally no reason to because a custom ROM based on out will be out soon.
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It makes so much sense, I am confused why people decide that an OTA is better than an OTA with root?
no patience I believe.
me wants 4.3 NOW
in all reality it'll prob be mostly security fixes and some software fixes like camera, unless VZW actually does us a solid and gets an OTA out to fix that damn bug
It's like this, most uninformed people would rather be able to say they have 4.3 while their friends may only have 4.2 still. "I'm better, my number is higher." Intel played that game with the Pentium 4 back in the day. Just because they had a 2Ghz processor didn't mean the AMD counterpart at 1.46Ghz didn't rip it a new one.
Same goes here. With the newer patches and updates come new FIXES, which is exactly what we don't want. Our wonderful devs here are doing the same things the guys who work with the Verizon updates are... Finding exploits and if Verizon finds them first and you end up patching with an OTA, well you're screwed then aren't you?
Just say no to OTA.
Is there a way to be sure OTA won't get installed? I can remember waking up in the morning to find my Rezounds sitting at the yellow triangle due to failed OTA's that I never initiated? Had the same thing happen on a friends DINC2. I recall deleting otacerts.zip from /system/etc/security to prevent this, does this still apply today?
Being Dev Unlocked worst case is I would have to reunlock using the Unlock_code.bin I have saved?
People keep asking this question for every device whenever there's an OTA on the way. Tons of people go out of their way to warn them not to take an OTA ever if they're interested in root. I say just let them learn from their mistakes.
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People keep asking this question for every device whenever there's an OTA on the way. Tons of people go out of their way to warn them not to take an OTA ever if they're interested in root. I say just let them learn from their mistakes.
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that's a great way to contribute to the forum. good job. :laugh:
OR
we could help the new users out and save them from making the same mistakes you or I may have made.
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People keep asking this question for every device whenever there's an OTA on the way. Tons of people go out of their way to warn them not to take an OTA ever if they're interested in root. I say just let them learn from their mistakes.
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You only take an update if already locked down. Many of these kids are noobs like YOU and don't know better, NO do not take an update unless we tell you it is safe. We can pull what is needed to make it safe.
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Is there a way to be sure OTA won't get installed? I can remember waking up in the morning to find my Rezounds sitting at the yellow triangle due to failed OTA's that I never initiated? Had the same thing happen on a friends DINC2. I recall deleting otacerts.zip from /system/etc/security to prevent this, does this still apply today?
Being Dev Unlocked worst case is I would have to reunlock using the Unlock_code.bin I have saved?
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Not sure. Been away from HTC for awhile. More than likely the code will no longer work. They are blowing Q-fuses on a lot of these devices now to permanently kill RW of the bootloader like old Moto devices. Search and find the files that allow update if on stock. The devs should have already disabled on any custom roms.
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It's like this, most uninformed people would rather be able to say they have 4.3 while their friends may only have 4.2 still. "I'm better, my number is higher." Intel played that game with the Pentium 4 back in the day. Just because they had a 2Ghz processor didn't mean the AMD counterpart at 1.46Ghz didn't rip it a new one.
Same goes here. With the newer patches and updates come new FIXES, which is exactly what we don't want. Our wonderful devs here are doing the same things the guys who work with the Verizon updates are... Finding exploits and if Verizon finds them first and you end up patching with an OTA, well you're screwed then aren't you?
Just say no to OTA.
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Dude... My best friend had his pentium 4 at 3 GHz get its ass beat by my 3200+ at what was it like 2.1. The bus of AMD chips made the difference for sure. I remember that fondly lol
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Road...xy-S4-Galaxy-S-III-and-GALAXY-Note-II_id47806
So how likely are we to get this update quickly since T-Mobile seems to have forgotten about our updates so far. Really want apps2sd already with Wi-Fi calling
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/Road...xy-S4-Galaxy-S-III-and-GALAXY-Note-II_id47806
So how likely are we to get this update quickly since T-Mobile seems to have forgotten about our updates so far. Really want apps2sd already with WiJane-Fi calling
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Sorry bro but I wouldn't hold my breath for any tmobile update. They always have some lame excuse like we're testing for months and months...good news is you can have 4.3 and apps to sd NOW if you root and install a custom rom. Look in the roms change log and it will tell you if its 4.3 and all other features it has. i have apps to sd now with my current rom. So if you don't want to wait for God knows how long you can get these things you want now by rooting. Also you can change back to stock and unroot if you like so its not a permanent thing. There are some wonderful how to root threads in tmobile android development section. Look in the forum for tmobile Samsung galaxy and find the development section where the roms are kept and you should find a how to guide.read read read and when your comfortable with the procedure proceed to root your device. You won't regret it for a second. Best wishes. Otherwise you can wait on tmobile which is likely just going to frusterate you. Ive been with tmobile ten years and my only complaint is their update process.its always one excuse after another why we're not getting our update. So you do have options. You can root and run these things now or wait on tmobile. Its up to you. Best wishes. If your already rooted and just wondering when it will come out my guess is after a newer device is announced. Tmobile is awful when it comes to updates!
Surprisingly the moto x on Tmobile was the first to get the camera fix update. But I guess it's more a patch than an update.
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Sorry bro but I wouldn't hold my breath for any tmobile update. They always have some lame excuse like we're testing for months and months...good news is you can have 4.3 and apps to sd NOW if you root and install a custom rom. Look in the roms change log and it will tell you if its 4.3 and all other features it has. i have apps to sd now with my current rom. So if you don't want to wait for God knows how long you can get these things you want now by rooting. Also you can change back to stock and unroot if you like so its not a permanent thing. There are some wonderful how to root threads in tmobile android development section. Look in the forum for tmobile Samsung galaxy and find the development section where the roms are kept and you should find a how to guide.read read read and when your comfortable with the procedure proceed to root your device. You won't regret it for a second. Best wishes. Otherwise you can wait on tmobile which is likely just going to frusterate you. Ive been with tmobile ten years and my only complaint is their update process.its always one excuse after another why we're not getting our update. So you do have options. You can root and run these things now or wait on tmobile. Its up to you. Best wishes. If your already rooted and just wondering when it will come out my guess is after a newer device is announced. Tmobile is awful when it comes to updates!
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What ticks me off is that this slow update crap is one of the reasons I left Verizon, only to find out it's an issue with t mobile.
Right now I am seriously considering the Nexus 5. For now, thank God I am rooted.
Yes I understand. I went through this with my htc and it makes me furious. It is ALWAYS the same excuse. We're testing and it might take awhile. Its total bs. I honestly think its a marketing strategy of sorts to hold the update as long as possible until the latest and greatest comes out. Then we no longer even care about the update and want to move on..I just don't know why they are this way. I've been with tmobile ten years and I've seen this over and over. Always the same excuse.its really my only complaint about the company. They just won't give us our updates ever so small or large. Until we don't care anymore because we're moving on to something else anyway. Its ridicoulas. So many complain but it seems they turn a deaf ear to our pleas.i was hoping this device would be different and they would send out the update in a timely manner. But its looking like that's not the case. Very frustrating. ..
If you really want bleeding edge updates, check out what happened to the 2013 Nexus 7 and its updates: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380866
It's bad enough when a tablet reboots randomly; I can't imagine a primary communication device like a smartphone doing the same... you know, like in the middle of a phone call.
I agree with realsis, don't count on T-Mobile. Right now you have 4.3 roms but they might not be perfect, I'm sure when Samsung releases the update with Touchwiz and everything, someone will figure out how to port the features to our S4. This seems like it's been repeated a million times, but latest updates can only come from 2 sources: XDA or directly from Google for Nexus devices.
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As soon as the internatinal i9505 galaxy s4 4.3 is realesed we will be able to install it becuase we run the same hardware so thats the good thing
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Sorry but this thread is funny and painful. We know tmobile employees are too dumb to rely on them for software
I'd honestly have a hard time believing that Samsung isn't going to be pushing the providers HARD to get the update out. They've got watches to sell...
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I'd honestly have a hard time believing that Samsung isn't going to be pushing the providers HARD to get the update out. They've got watches to sell...
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That's a good point, but i dont think the carriers care.
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Pray for the update in Oct 2014
Im sure not waiting till october 2014 for this update. hopefully I'll have jumped over to something else. By that time. .in the meantime I'm going to enjoy what we have available here on xda... tmobile ALWAYS uses the same excuse every update. "Oh were testing it" or " there was a issue with it" having been with tmobile ten years ive heard this over and over. Different device SAME story. This might sound odd but I think they hold their updates as a sort of marketing strategy. They will wait till something even greater is released by the time the updates comes out its so old it does not matter and we jump ship to the latest and greatest... think about it..if they gave our updates as they should be given we might actually be happy with our device therefore less likely to buy the latest and greatest new device... I dont know I can't help but think that they hold these updstes for their OWN reasons.. hopefully I'm wrong but ive seen this before....
Correct me if I'm wrong, the "WATCH " is only compatible with the Note 3 when it's released. I could seriously see T-Mobile waiting to see how many S4 owners are desperate enough to go out purchase the N3 just to get the watch before releasing the update.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, the "WATCH " is only compatible with the Note 3 when it's released. I could seriously see T-Mobile waiting to see how many S4 owners are desperate enough to go out purchase the N3 just to get the watch before releasing the update.
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No the watch will be compatible with the s3 s4 and note 2 IF they are updated by T-Mobile/Samsung to 4.3.
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They wouldn't do that as marketing strategy because the only people that care about updates are people that know a lot about the phone so if they continued to never update any phones customers would eventually go to other carriers that care about updates versus buying a new phone again that will never get updated
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nymikey said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, the "WATCH " is only compatible with the Note 3 when it's released. I could seriously see T-Mobile waiting to see how many S4 owners are desperate enough to go out purchase the N3 just to get the watch before releasing the update.
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I still think Samsung is in a nice position (in regards to market-share) to push the telcos to release the update. Seems kind of silly anyway since Samsung are the ones creating the update. One leak to SamMobile would put the pressure back on T-Mobile. Samsung has a lot more to gain from watch sales with multiple compatible devices in the wild than they would hoping that people would upgrade to a N3 AND get the watch.
I'll probably still be running CM, but it'll be nice to have an official 4.3 release
I saw a thread somewhere on xda an hour ago about a leaked Sammy 4.3 for the i9500/i9505 trying to find it again to share the link.
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2465713
[GT-I9505][Leaked firmware] I9505XXUEMI8 (Android 4.3) - Open Europe (OXA) [01-10-13]
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jds3118 said:
I saw a thread somewhere on xda an hour ago about a leaked Sammy 4.3 for the i9500/i9505 trying to find it again to share the link.
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2465713
[GT-I9505][Leaked firmware] I9505XXUEMI8 (Android 4.3) - Open Europe (OXA) [01-10-13]
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I saw this and was wondering is there anything special one needs to do before flashing. Like should I wait for a CWM rom or can I just use the download as is?
Dustin.M650 said:
I saw this and was wondering is there anything special one needs to do before flashing. Like should I wait for a CWM rom or can I just use the download as is?
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Not sure haven't tried it yet lol but from reading the thread I believe if u flash without the new bl file it should work maybe a more experienced dev can work their magic for us. :thumbup:
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According to this, Verizon has approved the 4.4 update, and we should be expecting the OTA rollout "shortly".
dberthia said:
According to this, Verizon has approved the 4.4 update, and we should be expecting the OTA rollout "shortly".
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"Before end of next week."
https://twitter.com/JasonMacHTC/status/431229623532134400
Dibs on March... 2017.
Yeah I just read about it myself.
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I'm debating on taking it or not. It doesn't look like 4.3 Root/S-Off will be happening at all, so I guess at this point, I might as well take it, as there probably won't be another major software overhaul anytime soon.
I'm sure one of our great devs will have a stock rooted Rom available shortly after the ota just like santod did with 4.3
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dbornack said:
I'm debating on taking it or not. It doesn't look like 4.3 Root/S-Off will be happening at all, so I guess at this point, I might as well take it, as there probably won't be another major software overhaul anytime soon.
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4.3 can be S-off'd and unlocked using Firewater.
4.4, we don't know for sure yet...
djerk said:
I'm sure one of our great devs will have a stock rooted Rom available shortly after the ota just like santod did with 4.3
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I was planning to.
santod040 said:
4.3 can be S-off'd and unlocked using Firewater.
4.4, we don't know for sure yet...
I was planning to.
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Wha?!? Man.. I suppose I've just been stuck in the rumrunner thread awaiting updates.
I saw Firewater mentioned, but thought that was just another 4.2 root.
I suppose I should check that out. I was getting anxious here.
Really hope this update helps with the purple camera hue. "Improved low light performance" seems pretty good.
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Update is live and rolling out! See my post in the main general thread. My wife is downloading now. I am in SW Missouri. Have fun!
Do we know or suspect anything yet in regard to
1) keeping root through the 4.4 OTA?
2) the negative impact of accepting the OTA on a rooted device running TWRP? I read something today that seemed to indicate that you needed the stock recovery to accept the OTA, so perhaps this is a moot point.
Related Note:
Why do I care if I am rooted? Why don't I just wait and flash a custom Sense 5.5 based on the new OTA firmware when it becomes available? It's interesting - I keep going back to my stock, rooted, original rom after flashing multiple roms available here on XDA, even some very good ones. HTC has done a pretty darn good job with Sense 5, and while I had no qualms leaving 3.6 behind for stock AOSP Android when available, I find myself missing Sense features when I use AOSP or GPE on my One. I've messed around with a couple of Sense custom roms, and I keep returning to the original firmware. I appreciate the ability to remove apps entirely through TiBu, so keeping root is good, and I reserve the ability to flash a custom rom if I get itchy want to, but I look at the fact that we are soon to receive an OTA, and I am torn. I know that it will be likely a matter of hours before someone Santod posts a stock rooted Verizon 4.4, but I've already set mine up exactly the way I wanted it. It's funny, after spending a couple of months not flashing new roms, both on the last month of my Bolt when there was nothing new and in the first month of having the One when 4.3 couldn't be rooted, I got really annoyed at the amount of time I was spending setting up accounts and preferences and mods and whatnot during the last week of flashing custom One roms. /rambling
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xRogerxC said:
Update is live and rolling out! See my post in the main general thread. My wife is downloading now. I am in SW Missouri. Have fun!
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Oh, crap, that was fast....
OTA Is now live!!!
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Leraeniesh said:
Really hope this update helps with the purple camera hue. "Improved low light performance" seems pretty good.
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It wont. THIS IS A CONFIRMED HARDWARE ISSUE
Leraeniesh said:
Really hope this update helps with the purple camera hue. "Improved low light performance" seems pretty good.
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People talk about this a lot in here, but I've never seen it on my One. I purchased new in January; I wonder if that is the difference.
Verizon pulled a fast one on me. I am thoroughly impressed.
Here's the link to the changelog:
http://support.verizonwireless.com/content/dam/support/pdf/system_update/htc-one.pdf
Build Number: 3.11.605.1
Baseband: 1.13.41.0109_2
arizonaomnia said:
People talk about this a lot in here, but I've never seen it on my One. I purchased new in January; I wonder if that is the difference.
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Also purchased mine in January. It seems to be effecting those who have had their Ones for a longer period.
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Leraeniesh said:
Also purchased mine in January. It seems to be effecting those who have had their Ones for a longer period.
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Not to make you worry or anything, because chances are you're fine...but, it took my One about 3 months to develop camera issue. I'm not sure if they started putting updated hardware in the later builds or not. They very well could have and you'll be good to go.
brholt6 said:
Not to make you worry or anything, because chances are you're fine...but, it took my One about 3 months to develop camera issue. I'm not sure if they started putting updated hardware in the later builds or not. They very well could have and you'll be good to go.
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Yes, camera hardware changed at least 9 times before they got it right.
Sure it's been posted, but the stock update link is here: http://support.verizonwireless.com/support/system_update/htc-one.html
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