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Gingerbread?

Will our beloved incredibles ever get 2.3? I googled it and found no concrete answers. I wanna know so i dont root and miss out on ota 2.3. I figured if anyone were to know, it would be the guys at xda.
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watt9493 said:
Will our beloved incredibles ever get 2.3? I googled it and found no concrete answers. I wanna know so i dont root and miss out on ota 2.3. I figured if anyone were to know, it would be the guys at xda.
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It could be a very very long wait seein as there are a bunch of new phones for them to pay attention to while ignoring the Dincs.
Go ahead and root, tons of us applied the update manually to 2.2 without issue.

I have a family member working for a Verizon as a DM, I try to get information out of him, all he told me is that the Inc is "supposed" to get 2.3, had no timetable when.

When the Evo 3D comes out and the source code gets released for Sense on 2.3 hopefully the guys over here can make it work on the DInc.

I agree with Ben. Root and get 2.3 now. Why wait for a buggy IT'S when we've been building and debugging the source already.
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If VZW releases 2.3 for DInc, XDA ROM-ers will do loads of stuff with it anyway...

PGleo86 said:
If VZW releases 2.3 for DInc, XDA ROM-ers will do loads of stuff with it anyway...
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I think thats kind of a big "if" though :/ but I still have hope!
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Gingerbread released to developers

Gingerbread has been released to developers.
http://developer.htc.com/
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You can flash this only via RUU (and probably from SD card if you extract rom.zip). OTA is not available.
Were are all the people that ranted that there is no Gingerbread update now!

Lol, anyone has tested it?
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monsterfly said:
You can flash this only via RUU (and probably from SD card if you extract rom.zip). OTA is not available.
Were are all the people that ranted that there is no Gingerbread update now!
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There still technically isn't as most of the comments seemed to be for an OTA update.

So, is that it? Or can we expect more? As it stands, it's a big "take your ****ing GB and don't come running to us expecting support, suckers!"
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FoRmaTiTo said:
So, is that it? Or can we expect more? As it stands, it's a big "take your ****ing GB and don't come running to us expecting support, suckers!"
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Wait, let me guess - you won't be buying another HTC device unless you get moar?

awesome

I don't care if there is more, I'm happy with my installed ROM. I'm just in awe of htc's way of doing things, which I find inappropriate to say the least.
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i dont get what the big fuss over getting gingerbread from htc is, we already hav more gb roms than you can imagine to choose from, i can understand someone that hasnt a clue about android and there phone, they see there getting an update and think happy days, but surely all the people that are on xda should hav knowledge of rooting and stuff, so they dont need gingerbread as they already should hav it, im using xjs miui conversion and couldnt care less if htc release gingerbread, doesnt put me off buying another htc phone, ramble over lol

Any rooted realese?

I can only talk for myself, and in my case what bothers me is the whole " Gingerbread? yes! no! yes but not whole!" followed by nothing more than a developers build, released last minute. That's just f'ed.
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i try my best not to take any notice, yes its hard because its all you seem to see here, the thing is htc make brilliant phones, and while there making brillliant phones and the cleverer devs are rooting them and making amazing roms then we have nothing to worry about

FoRmaTiTo said:
I can only talk for myself, and in my case what bothers me is the whole " Gingerbread? yes! no! yes but not whole!" followed by nothing more than a developers build, released last minute. That's just f'ed.
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Indeed. If they announce Gingerbread update via Facebook, it should be an update that the average Facebook user can actually get to their phone.
If they had announced here that a developer build was coming, that would have been ok. Then again, as a whole the amount of support for Desire wouldn't have been, only the announcement part.

timestamps on the files seem to suggest they have had this ready since 15th - 22nd july.
fairly last minute considering testing period

I don't remember them announcing it will be an OTA release. Even more, there was a rumor it might be a ruu. So they delivered the update on schedule, but you jumped to conclusions based on something they never promised, and now it is a problem too. It is not HTC's problem if majority of population who inhabitate Facebook's pages are idiots or not. Which they probably are

Bah so no on the air update? that sucks.

anyone checked to see if it is S-Off?

So that means that we normal users (unrooted) cannot install it?

black187 said:
So that means that we normal users (unrooted) cannot install it?
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you can instlal it by running the RUU on your laptop with the phone connected simples
it will unroot and reset to factory defaults

erklat said:
I don't remember them announcing it will be an OTA release. Even more, there was a rumor it might be a ruu. So they delivered the update on schedule, but you jumped to conclusions based on something they never promised, and now it is a problem too. It is not HTC's problem if majority of population who inhabitate Facebook's pages are idiots or not. Which they probably are
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"Hi everyone. We have more news about our build of Gingerbread for Desire. Our testing has gone well so we will begin rolling out the update by the end of July! Thank you again for your support!"
Ok.
Where is the rumor that it might be a ruu?How many times HTC released a rom by ruu, on any device???
The update on schedule was "by" not "at"...
"Testing has gone well" - that means that the update is in developer state or ready to release?What that means to you, smartass?
"It is not HTC's problem if majority of population who inhabitate Facebook's pages are idiots or not. Which they probably are " - do you have a Facebook page, moron? If you do, do you feel a little bit "idiotic"?

[Q] New to DINC2!

Greetings! I am new to the DINC2, just downgraded from my Droid X2 (or upgraded, however you want to call it) and love it! The phone (unfortunately) came out of the box with 2.3.3 (I even asked the guy to check before he started setting everything up). Anyways, I came from the DX2 because there isn't much development going on for it at the moment and I honestly needed something smaller. So far I love it!
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Holy crap did this thing come with a lot of bloat! I've looked around the forums and seen that GB is unrootable at the moment. Does this phone work at all like the DX2 as far as SBF goes (probably not, since RSD is Motorola)? Anybody have a clue when it's going to be rootable again? Like an ETA? I will gladly donate to whoever is working hard to make this possible!
Thanks!

From my less than 24hrs with the inc2 I have figured out there is no eta for root. You cannot sbf like motos. You can not downgrade like the incredible via a ruu. We are waiting for an exploit. It took over 2 months for an exploit to be found for 2.2. So it is a waiting game.
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zax10 said:
From my less than 24hrs with the inc2 I have figured out there is no eta for root. You cannot sbf like motos. You can not downgrade like the incredible via a ruu. We are waiting for an exploit. It took over 2 months for an exploit to be found for 2.2. So it is a waiting game.
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That's all I needed to hear! Thanks!

TheMavic said:
That's all I needed to hear! Thanks!
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There is a custom sense launcher I the thread somewhere. I don't know if it works for us or not, but it may let you hide apps. I know launcher pro does. And has some sense theming if you want it.
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zax10 said:
From my less than 24hrs with the inc2 I have figured out there is no eta for root. You cannot sbf like motos. You can not downgrade like the incredible via a ruu. We are waiting for an exploit. It took over 2 months for an exploit to be found for 2.2. So it is a waiting game.
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This is true. However, if you can't wait a probable couple of months till root (by alpharevx/unrevoked) then you could always obtain s-off by purchasing an xtc clip. This is the only known way to root gingerbread currently.

Will JB be 100% working for our phone when the tools are released?

At the IO google said that they would release JB developer tools for JB. So will we have the full potential of 4.1 JB?
I ask this because JB probably won't be released (offically) for our phone.
PS: do you think the performance boosts of JB will have an significant effect on our phone? It seemed to on the nexus.

Probably not. We don't have kernel source for ICS as it is, even though our phone is slated to get it, but I wouldn't count on it so getting JB to work on our phone is highly unlikely.
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AJGO23 said:
Probably not. We don't have kernel source for ICS as it is, even though our phone is slated to get it, but I wouldn't count on it so getting JB to work on our phone is highly unlikely.
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I'm 76% sure we will get ICS. They have it for the S and they said they would release it at the end of August.
You must consider that JB is just an updated ICS. So we don't need an offical JB to have it running 100%. And Google will have a dev tool out that may help us. Lastly they have a dump floating around. Chances are that we can use that to help us build a 100% working ASOP JB build. But this all depends on when or if we get ICS.
Can a dev jump in and let me know of my logic is correct
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joefrog1996 said:
I'm 76% sure we will get ICS. They have it for the S and they said they would release it at the end of August.
You must consider that JB is just an updated ICS. So we don't need an offical JB to have it running 100%. And Google will have a dev tool out that may help us. Lastly they have a dump floating around. Chances are that we can use that to help us build a 100% working ASOP JB build. But this all depends on when or if we get ICS.
Can a dev jump in and let me know of my logic is correct
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I'm no dev but I have GREAT news!!!
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Linch89 said:
I'm no dev but I have GREAT news!!!
I just saved 15% by switching to Geico
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You sir win the Internet.
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joefrog1996 said:
I'm 76% sure we will get ICS. They have it for the S and they said they would release it at the end of August.
You must consider that JB is just an updated ICS. So we don't need an offical JB to have it running 100%. And Google will have a dev tool out that may help us. Lastly they have a dump floating around. Chances are that we can use that to help us build a 100% working ASOP JB build. But this all depends on when or if we get ICS.
Can a dev jump in and let me know of my logic is correct
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And you believe everything HTC and Verizon tells you...? that Dev tool is worthless if it doesn't include specific Dinc 2 files that goes once again back to kernel source. That dump isn't as useful to us as you think otherwise we would have fully working ICS on our phones from ICS dumps. Trust me, if it were as simple as you believe it is, our devs would have done it already. The situation with JB is pretty much the same as ICS if not worse since there is also the issue of resizing XHDPI JB to WVGA because there are no JB phones with WVGA resolution. Don't quote me on that last part, but I'm sure a dev can correct me or explain it better.
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AJGO23 said:
And you believe everything HTC and Verizon tells you...? that Dev tool is worthless if it doesn't include specific Dinc 2 files that goes once again back to kernel source. That dump isn't as useful to us as you think otherwise we would have fully working ICS on our phones from ICS dumps. Trust me, if it were as simple as you believe it is, our devs would have done it already. The situation with JB is pretty much the same as ICS if not worse since there is also the issue of resizing XHDPI JB to WVGA because there are no JB phones with WVGA resolution. Don't quote me on that last part, but I'm sure a dev can correct me or explain it better.
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Nexus S will receive the update and it is a single core WVGA phone. So, I'll be looking closely on feedback from Nexus S users. That should give us an idea of the performance gains that we can theoretically expect, if any, over ICS. And there is no need to be overly cynical about HTC and their promise of giving us ICS. They said they will by August end and so just wait for it. Regardless of what may have happened in the past, you will just burden your mind with needless thoughts...
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litetaker said:
Nexus S will receive the update and it is a single core WVGA phone. So, I'll be looking closely on feedback from Nexus S users. That should give us an idea of the performance gains that we can theoretically expect, if any, over ICS. And there is no need to be overly cynical about HTC and their promise of giving us ICS. They said they will by August end and so just wait for it. Regardless of what may have happened in the past, you will just burden your mind with needless thoughts...
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They said to be determined by the end of August which is a big difference. And honestly at this point I don't really care if we get official ICS anymore I'm pretty content with the work that our devs have done so far without it, if official ICS is so important to some of these users they might as well have just stayed stock and waited for an OTA. I don't mean to take this out on you personally, but these threads about JB and "perfect and bugless" ICS roms have gotten ridiculously out of hand. Not to mention the amount of user that lack to read the threads let alone the OP when it comes to figuring out what bugs exist. Not directed at you at all, but more towards the users that have lately been demanding and expecting stuff from devs and not really contributing back to the community. I'm sure you've seen some of those posts. End rant
On second thought I shouldn't be on XDA at 2 morning when I have to be up at 7. No hard feelings? :beer:
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AJGO23 said:
They said to be determined by the end of August which is a big difference.
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Its been clarified by reps at both HTC and VZW that what they meant was that the date is to be decided but that we will have it by the end of August. Take that for what you will, as I don't believe there has been anything official that clarifies this. I am pretty confident that we will get it and can only hope that we will get kernel source soon after.
Back to the OP's question, I highly doubt that we will have a 100% working JB rom anytime soon considering we still have issues on ALL of our ICS roms. Once we have official ICS our awesome dev's will probably be able to get JB working well pretty quickly.
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cstone1991 said:
I am pretty confident that we will get it and can only hope that we will get kernel source soon after.
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HTC has to release kernel source regardless because of the Chinese OTA they released. It might be as late as October, but they have to release it regardless or else they'd be in violation of some law that has an acronym I can't remember.
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joefrog1996 said:
I'm 76% sure we will get ICS. They have it for the S and they said they would release it at the end of August.
You must consider that JB is just an updated ICS. So we don't need an offical JB to have it running 100%. And Google will have a dev tool out that may help us. Lastly they have a dump floating around. Chances are that we can use that to help us build a 100% working ASOP JB build. But this all depends on when or if we get ICS.
Can a dev jump in and let me know of my logic is correct
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i am only 27.381818% that you are actually 76% sure that jellybean, we will get
i used 45/7 ths of my brainpower to answer this

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i am only 27.381818% that you are actually 76% sure that jellybean, we will get
i used 45/7 ths of my brainpower to answer this
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I didn't say anything about JB in 76%, and to be honest I don't think there is a chance of us getting official JB. We don't even know about official ICS for the dinc 2 yet.
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joefrog1996 said:
I didn't say anything about JB in 76%, and to be honest I don't think there is a chance of us getting official JB. We don't even know about official ICS for the dinc 2 yet.
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Just stop while you're ahead.
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AJGO23 said:
They said to be determined by the end of August which is a big difference. And honestly at this point I don't really care if we get official ICS anymore I'm pretty content with the work that our devs have done so far without it, if official ICS is so important to some of these users they might as well have just stayed stock and waited for an OTA. I don't mean to take this out on you personally, but these threads about JB and "perfect and bugless" ICS roms have gotten ridiculously out of hand. Not to mention the amount of user that lack to read the threads let alone the OP when it comes to figuring out what bugs exist. Not directed at you at all, but more towards the users that have lately been demanding and expecting stuff from devs and not really contributing back to the community. I'm sure you've seen some of those posts. End rant
On second thought I shouldn't be on XDA at 2 morning when I have to be up at 7. No hard feelings? :beer:
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OTA ICS will (should) help remove many of the small bugs we have with Camera etc... And once we get a hand on our kernel source, I believe devs will be knee deep in Jellybean goodness... The main reason why I am looking forward for the OTA is for the kernel source... Hell no I am going to go stock.. Once the kernel is up, I am gonna go with Nits' Sense 4 ROM!
The To be determined thing is crappy of them... They say on their FB page that the "Release Date" is the thing to be determined, NOT whether it gets ICS or not... which makes sense given it is in the table of release dates and given they previously confirmed to give it ICS... anyway, time will tell... No breaking my head on this...
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i am only 27.381818% that you are actually 76% sure that jellybean, we will get
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45/7 > 1 !!!
You used more brain power than you HAVE!! Hope you didn't burn out and fuse your brain... We need you for the Sense 4a ROM...

litetaker said:
OTA ICS will (should) help remove many of the small bugs we have with Camera etc...
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We really only need the kernal for ASOP. IC sense 3.6 has fully working cam.... IDK about video. Phone video is pointless because it has low FPS and the audio is terrible.
Why is camera always better on sense?
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joefrog1996 said:
We really only need the kernal for ASOP. IC sense 3.6 has fully working cam.... IDK about video. Phone video is pointless because it has low FPS and the audio is terrible.
Why is camera always better on sense?
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Yeah, I should try that ROM too, sometime... I was wondering how functional it is... The Sense 4 ROM has some issues with GPS too (if you toggle it, it will not come back on). But I don't like how Sense 3.6 is.

Even if we don't get an OTA HTC still has to release source because of the Chinese and Inc S ICS OTA. That's why I don't understand why some of the other users are so anxious for an official OTA, even with these other OTAs flash timing appears to still have not been fixed, whatever that is I haven't had it happen personally (knock on wood). We all need to relax and just wait for source to be posted and let the devs do their thing.
On a different topic, anyone else thing the default sig on the XDA app is kind of redundant?
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litetaker said:
Yeah, I should try that ROM too, sometime... I was wondering how functional it is... The Sense 4 ROM has some issues with GPS too (if you toggle it, it will not come back on). But I don't like how Sense 3.6 is.
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In my experience it was bugless (IC 3.6) although it was laggy. It was laggy in the wrong places (homescreen, and scrolling through certain apps) and smooth in the wrong places (app drawer, GP, settings).
You need to check it out
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AJGO23 said:
Even if we don't get an OTA HTC still has to release source because of the Chinese and Inc S ICS OTA. That's why I don't understand why some of the other users are so anxious for an official OTA, even with these other OTAs flash timing appears to still have not been fixed, whatever that is I haven't had it happen personally (knock on wood). We all need to relax and just wait for source to be posted and let the devs do their thing.
On a different topic, anyone else thing the default sig on the XDA app is kind of redundant?
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I agree, there were a few things that happened recently that have gotten us excited..... (The S getting ICS and JB)....... but we need to chill out. And in the mean time enjoy what we DO have, and not think about what we don't and might not get.
Funny thing is this thread only exists becuase of the recent changes.
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10-4

Verizon HTC One S-Off Discussion Thread

Here is a place to discuss the current methods of S-Off.
We have Sonic2765's java card which will always work, and a promised method from beaups.
Sonic's Java Card will work on any device.
Sonic's thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427960
Beaups method will work on any device even with the minor OTA that was released.
So, it seems safe to take the OTA, but I am not responsible if this is incorrect.

This is amazing! Was waiting for this since I didn't have another phone to use so I could send mine to Sonic. Also glad that beaups said that it WILL work with the latest OTA! Just glad for an exploit since my original One had to be exchanged...

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Beaups method will work on any device even with the minor OTA that was released.
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That, sir, is great news. Cause I'm sick of getting reminded to update..

Any idea if he hopes to release sometime soon? Or after 4.3 is released?

More than likely after 4.3 would be my guess. We wouldn't want verizon to include a fix for the exploit with 4.3 causing a delay in the release. I don't know for sure, just my guess.
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Yea, I think waiting would be a good idea.. AT&T certified their 4.3 recently and it's rolling out now.. hopefully VZW is not far behind. I need FREEDOM!!

Shame... VZ is supposed to release it at the very end of October. Personally, I would rather have it released now

I mean, if he just released it and we had a thread warning everyone wouldn't that be fine?

This is awesome news!
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I mean, if he just released it and we had a thread warning everyone wouldn't that be fine?
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I agree, most of us will be running custom roms anyway, so there would be no reason really to ota, and also no reason why someone won't just make a safe flashable zip for us after ota is released... The only way the soff method would suck is if they patched it and people with replacement after the update, or just new phone owners wouldn't be able to do it, which is kinda a big deal...
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It just needs to be released now. Everyone knows or should know not to take an ota. Ones who takes it well they deserve to possibly be blocked from the exploit. Is he waiting because there maybe issues with his method? Seemed like in the past when an exploit was found it was released rather quickly. Waiting for 4.3 on Verizon will be waiting 6 months. They never released an update when they said they would.
Just give us the root method and collect your bounty
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I don't know shall we wait until after 4.3? I suppose even if we wait nothing will stop Verizon from releasing a small ota even after the 4.3 release to patch the exploit. so waiting may not have much benefit ..
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daavvis said:
I agree, most of us will be running custom roms anyway, so there would be no reason really to ota, and also no reason why someone won't just make a safe flashable zip for us after ota is released... The only way the soff method would suck is if they patched it and people with replacement after the update, or just new phone owners wouldn't be able to do it, which is kinda a big deal...
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There will always be that problem with getting replacement phones but with Verizon we know how slow they are for getting updates out. I remember the method for rooting the bolt was the same for years until ics came out.
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daavvis said:
I agree, most of us will be running custom roms anyway, so there would be no reason really to ota, and also no reason why someone won't just make a safe flashable zip for us after ota is released... The only way the soff method would suck is if they patched it and people with replacement after the update, or just new phone owners wouldn't be able to do it, which is kinda a big deal...
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yea...but someone who is going to s-off should have the common sense to read the forums before updating...plus most people that are planning on buying ones already have bought them

With the news of the root method found I am sure we will see many people who left the one come back and people considering the one but waiting for a root exploit will now buy the one.
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Super excited to see this happen. This phone is unreal running stock. I just hate having stock anything. I modify everything I own lol cars, computers, tablets, phones, u name it. If I buy it I tweek it.
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Dark Jedi said:
It just needs to be released now. Everyone knows or should know not to take an ota. Ones who takes it well they deserve to possibly be blocked from the exploit. Is he waiting because there maybe issues with his method? Seemed like in the past when an exploit was found it was released rather quickly. Waiting for 4.3 on Verizon will be waiting 6 months. They never released an update when they said they would.
Just give us the root method and collect your bounty
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It will be released when beaups feels that it is ready to be released. He is probably taking his time to make the process as safe as possible for as many people as possible. Just because he found a method doesn't necessarily mean that it is safe and easy to use in its current form. Be patient and be glad that it exists at all.
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Thats a valid point, I just don't see benefit in waiting. but like nexus said, they could release a small patch right after 4.3 and we would have the same outcome. or they may find this exploit before we even release it and the will just patch it in 4.3 either way. But i would like to thank beaups for putting in the time and effort! I know this stuff isn't easy so thanks!

I wish he would make a thread so people could give him thanks and he could give us updates on the process.

I'm not waiting on any vzw updates. Just need to get everything done. It will be done "soon".