Hey guys, i bought a Powerbank just now. Apparently, it doesn't work. It didn't charge. I bought a USB Cable cos i tried on one of my friend's powerbank and it didn't work too. I don't know whyy but it doesn't work at all.
Voltage perhaps. Did it say it should be compatible? You should always check the compatibility on these things.
Also, shouldn't these things be already charged in order to charge anything else themselves? Is this the case for you?
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TiTAN-O-One said:
Hey guys, i bought a Powerbank just now. Apparently, it doesn't work. It didn't charge. I bought a USB Cable cos i tried on one of my friend's powerbank and it didn't work too. I don't know whyy but it doesn't work at all.
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I have one that charges. I used one of friends one, it didn't charge. Voltage issue or Current, both might affect. Use the 1A one instead of 2.5A
i bought vivan powerbank(sell in indonesia) and it charging, but i think it is better to use your original charger/usb charger because when you use powerbank your Wonder will getting hot, hotter than charging with original charger/usb.
Actually, i found out why it can't charge. I didn't use the original cable one tht came with the powerbank. I bought a brand new Flat-wired MicroUSB cable and hook up on the powerbank and its not charging. Tried with hTC and Original Samsung cables and its not doing anything. I'll send an attachment someday to show you how my powerbank looks like.
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You need a short USB cable with thick wires. The longer the cable and the thinner the wires inside it, the higher the resistance and the higher the voltage drop. I had a simmilar problem with my external USB 2,5 HD drive. Made a really short USB cable with double traces to make it finally work.
So best you can do to fix it is either find a short cable with thick traces or to build one If you have the skills.
But honestly if I were you I would sell this PowerBank and use this money to buy one of those 2900 mA batteries for your Wounder.
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You need a short USB cable with thick wires. The longer the cable and the thinner the wires inside it, the higher the resistance and the higher the voltage drop. I had a simmilar problem with my external USB 2,5 HD drive. Made a really short USB cable with double traces to make it finally work.
So best you can do to fix it is either find a short cable with thick traces or to build one If you have the skills.
But honestly if I were you I would sell this PowerBank and use this money to buy one of those 2900 mA batteries for your Wounder.
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But it looks hideous carrying a gigantic phone around public areas... i mean if i were to take it on the train, people will be like "what on earth is that?"
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TiTAN-O-One said:
But it looks hideous carrying a gigantic phone around public areas... i mean if i were to take it on the train, people will be like "what on earth is that?"
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Not that gigantic like you think, though it would be thicker of course, but not that big like a 5" smartphone.
I was thinking the same way like you but already heve seen smartphones which are double as thick like the SGW is and it still looked ok to me. But when I see those 5" smartphones I ask myself if we need a back bag for the next generation of smartphones
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Not that gigantic like you think, though it would be thicker of course, but not that big like a 5" smartphone.
I was thinking the same way like you but already heve seen smartphones which are double as thick like the SGW is and it still looked ok to me. But when I see those 5" smartphones I ask myself if we need a back bag for the next generation of smartphones
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Yea, laptops are getting smaller and phones are getting more bigger than that someday >< Anyways, on a positive note, i can always share this powerbank with many people :thumbup:
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honeyx said:
You need a short USB cable with thick wires. The longer the cable and the thinner the wires inside it, the higher the resistance and the higher the voltage drop. I had a simmilar problem with my external USB 2,5 HD drive. Made a really short USB cable with double traces to make it finally work.
So best you can do to fix it is either find a short cable with thick traces or to build one If you have the skills.
But honestly if I were you I would sell this PowerBank and use this money to buy one of those 2900 mA batteries for your Wounder.
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Lol was learning that during Physics lessons. Anyway, you're right. I have a Valore power bank and its wire is short and thick, and it charges well.
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This is probably a dumb question but what kind of USB cable would I buy if I wanted an extra charging cable. I don't know what the phone side of the cable is called (USB mini ?) I know it is slightly different than my camera but really close.
u can use ur old vibrant one if u have one thats what i did for extra
pairustwo said:
This is probably a dumb question but what kind of USB cable would I buy if I wanted an extra charging cable. I don't know what the phone side of the cable is called (USB mini ?) I know it is slightly different than my camera but really close.
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Any Micro-USB cable will do.
Kawaisa said:
Any Micro-USB cable will do.
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Just be sure you know what you are buying. Some will be charge only cables, which means they can't be used as a USB to transfer data.
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Towle said:
Just be sure you know what you are buying. Some will be charge only cables, which means they can't be used as a USB to transfer data.
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Ahh. Now I see why my camera cable wouldn't fit. I didn't think there would be another form factor that was so similar. (But then again the 2nd gen Kindle has it's own form factor USB port)
I don't think my camera is charge only but it does have a block where some of the pins would go and so won't fit the Hercules.
Goto monoprice.com. Order a crapload of them of varying lengths. Get ones with ferrit cores if you want, but not necessary. They might help with data integrity of data transfers. I find that they get in the way. But monoprice has inexpensive cables of high quality. Almost all around a buck. Fast delivery too.
If you are looking for usb power bricks, make sure they are 5 volt outputs. Do not skimp here as this could hose your phone if cheap electronics send bad voltage to your phone.
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PorchSong said:
Goto monoprice.com. Order a crapload of them of varying lengths. Get ones with ferris's but not necessary. They might help with data integrity of data transfers. I find that they get in the way. But monoprice has inexpensive cables of high quality. Almost all around a buck. Fast delivery too.
If you are looking for usb power bricks, make sure they are 5 volt outputs. Do not skimp here as this could hose your phone if cheap electronics send bad voltage to your phone.
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There is no such thing as "bad voltage." All USB chargers are approx 5V but if it were a bad charger and was outputting 12volts or 1volt the phones charging circuity will handle it and either not charge at all or adjust accordingly. Bottom line is ANY USB charger will work (or not) but chances of it damaging the phone unless it was hitting it with 120VAC are very slim.
Lol this thread is probably making it more complicated for you. Just go on Ebay and search for micro USB cable and make sure it says charge/data. Most will have a phone manufacturer name in the title (HTC Samsung Motorola etc.) Any of them will work.
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There is no such thing as "bad voltage." All USB chargers are approx 5V but if it were a bad charger and was outputting 12volts or 1volt the phones charging circuity will handle it and either not charge at all or adjust accordingly. Bottom line is ANY USB charger will work (or not) but chances of it damaging the phone unless it was hitting it with 120VAC are very slim.
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Yeah, I've been using my iPad charger for the phone quite a bit. Works great. I'm set on chargers I just need more cables.
The microUSB cable is too short, and need a longer one. Will any of the long ones that pop up on ebay work fine or does it need to be a specific type of cable or something.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3M-long-Mic...Accessories&hash=item231ed566ca#ht_2678wt_958
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cellet-8ft-...Accessories&hash=item48461ce9f3#ht_1700wt_952
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3M-long-Mic...Accessories&hash=item231fb19fec#ht_2697wt_958
etc
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5460&seq=1&format=2
Cheap and quality! Especially for 15ft. They have smaller lengths if that's too long for you....
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http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5460&seq=1&format=2
Cheap and quality! Especially for 15ft. They have smaller lengths if that's too long for you....
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Wow that's a great find.
Working well for you I assume?
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fergie716 said:
Wow that's a great find.
Working well for you I assume?
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Absolutely! I got the 6ft ones with ferrite cores. But I am sure the 15ft ones are the same thing.
Longer cable cause greater power loss
i bought a kindle3 last year, and the cable is very long. When i use it to connect my phone to USB port on laptop, my phone can't be recognized
The one that came with the phone was to long for me. I switched to the one that came with my one x. I use the one x charger to it looks better made
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bigdipper said:
Longer cable cause greater power loss
i bought a kindle3 last year, and the cable is very long. When i use it to connect my phone to USB port on laptop, my phone can't be recognized
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That is just a faulty cable.
Perhaps you can use an existing USB cable?
I've plenty of these from my past units - I find Nokia cables very well made
My N8 USB cable have locking clasps at the micro-USB side and works pretty well for fast charging
For longer cable needs I bring with me the charging cable of my Logitech K800 wireless keyboard
Great quality USB cable for charging and connecting to KIES or just plain transferring files
I have one white original for my kindle, but using it with gs3 charger, as it's twice as long...
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I always look to monoprice.com for cables. You are guaranteed to get a high quality cable. You can get one shipped for maybe $1 more than those ebay cables.
Huge +1000 on Monoprice cables. They also have USB AC & Car power adapters. Super easy to stock up on extra cables & chargers.
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Huge +1000 on Monoprice cables. They also have USB AC & Car power adapters. Super easy to stock up on extra cables & chargers.
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Never heard of Monoprice, I'll check them out. thanks
can you guys get the monoprice cables to work with the AC adapter?
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can you guys get the monoprice cables to work with the AC adapter?
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That's the whole point, to make the cable that came with the charger longer. That way one can lay in bed, charge, and use the phone at the same time.
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That's the whole point, to make the cable that came with the charger longer. That way one can lay in bed, charge, and use the phone at the same time.
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Yeah, I just wish (KICKSTARTER!) that someone made a microusb cable that didn't protrude so much from the end of the phone, making it a pain to hold comfortably in landscape mode. Even the right-angle microusb cables I have aren't good enough.
Somebody should really make one that sits flush against the phone, with some extra silicone padding along the base, so you can't even really tell that it's plugged in. It'd be a little pricier, being niche, but I'd buy it... and if marketed right, lots of others would too.
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That's the whole point, to make the cable that came with the charger longer. That way one can lay in bed, charge, and use the phone at the same time.
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so the length doesn't affect charging performance?
Do longer cables negatively impact charging?
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so the length doesn't affect charging performance?
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Good question, I don't know. Maybe someone else can chime in.
I can't decide between 6, 10 and 15 ft.
I was going to get the 15 ft until someone else mentioned the longer cables affect charging performance. I don't know if there is any truth to that.
Can someone who knows chime in please
I just bought two 15ft cables on monoprice for two bucks a pop. There's a lot of positive reviews, so my guess is that it works just fine
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Totally off-topic but for everybody that buys cables from Monoprice, do you guys have free shipping code or something?
I know their products and prices are good. But it seems like unless I'm buying a lot of cables, the shipping doesn't justify the cost.
Charging isn't an issue over 6 feet, but if you're using it for data, don't go over 6 feet...
This is what I use. No issues.
Mediabridge - USB 2.0 A-Male to Micro-B Cable (6 Feet)
I'm not as handy as some in the forums...but I can glue things together. Any phone stands out there that would work nicely with the n5 charger and the nexus?
I've a case on so I can't rely on the chargers magnets unfortunately, so I need proper stand
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I'm not 100% sure what you're asking here, but get one of these and call it a day.
http://www.tylt.com/vu/
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I'm not 100% sure what you're asking here, but get one of these and call it a day.
http://www.tylt.com/vu/
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I'm assuming he wants to make his own type of DIY stand.
Do you have the Tylt? I'm interested in it.
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I'm assuming he wants to make his own type of DIY stand.
Do you have the Tylt? I'm interested in it.
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Yep, it's sitting right next to me. Wonderful charger. I use it for my N7 and my N5.
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Yep, it's sitting right next to me. Wonderful charger. I use it for my N7 and my N5.
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Very pricey, I want it. I'll have to see catch it at a deal.
The Tylt definitely is a looker, but I can't justify spending that much on a charger.
I just want something around $15 - $25 that outputs higher than 1A... I want to at least attempt to come close to the max Qi for the Nexus 5.
The cheap $15 one I have right now is 1A max output (so less of course) and I'd say it charges a little over half as fast as the stock charger.
I don't want to spend higher than that for essentially a glorified usb cable.
Missed out on the tylt deal (also already have the nexus) so I couldnt get one. So trying the diy route
Yeah I'm with you guys, they definitely charge a premium for it. I missed out on the sale too but bought it anyway and I'm glad I did. It's really one of the most convenient accessories if not THE most convenient accessory I've ever bought for a phone/tablet and it's that convenience you pay for. I wish it was cheaper, but still think it's worth the asking price.
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Yeah I'm with you guys, they definitely charge a premium for it. I missed out on the sale too but bought it anyway and I'm glad I did. It's really one of the most convenient accessories if not THE most convenient accessory I've ever bought for a phone/tablet and it's that convenience you pay for. I wish it was cheaper, but still think it's worth the asking price.
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I read a post on here a few minutes ago about staying away from wireless chargers because they damage the battery. How true is this?
dinggus said:
I read a post on here a few minutes ago about staying away from wireless chargers because they damage the battery. How true is this?
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Don't really see how, and I have no issues with either of my devices. I would think if wireless chargers damaged the battery, then phone manufacturers wouldn't add that feature. Do you mind linking that post?
_MetalHead_ said:
Don't really see how, and I have no issues with either of my devices. I would think if wireless chargers damaged the battery, then phone manufacturers wouldn't add that feature. Do you mind linking that post?
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Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2583508
Article that was posted by a user: http://gizmodo.com/how-to-take-care-of-your-smartphone-battery-the-right-w-513217256
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Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2583508
Article that was posted by a user: http://gizmodo.com/how-to-take-care-of-your-smartphone-battery-the-right-w-513217256
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Ahhh the heat thing. Yeah, that *can* degrade the performance of a battery over an extended period of time, but I don't see that being a major concern. Your phone gets warmer during gaming sessions or just browsing the web than it does when on a wireless charger so the argument can be made that it's worse for the battery to actually use the phone than to charge it wirelessly. That said, at least in my experience, my TYLT charger doesn't make my N5 or N7 warm at all. And my N5 is on it all the time. Bottom line- use your phone the way you want to, you're going to be upgrading long before your battery dies anyway.
Slightly OT, but does it matter if you plug in your Qi charger into a USB 2.0 port on a computer, or do you need to use a USB 3.0?
I know that the mAh of USB 2.0 is something like only 500mAh, but I believe it still supplies the same 5V as USB 3.0 would. Would a Qi charger go by the 5V input, or would is use the 500mAh max draw rendering the charge time absolutely horrendous?
I don't really know how it works too well. I have my Qi charger plugged into a USB port on my power bar for my night stand. But I'd like to have 2 more, 1 for my desk (hooked to my desktop computer) and another for my notebook.
Just came across this on Kickstarter and depending on how efficient it is I may jump on it. What do you guys think about this little Qi enabled powerbank?
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects...ration-portable-wireless-charger?ref=category
AliLaPointe said:
Just came across this on Kickstarter and depending on how efficient it is I may jump on it. What do you guys think about this little Qi enabled powerbank?
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects...ration-portable-wireless-charger?ref=category
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NVM googled what lugaluke meant lol
AliLaPointe said:
Just came across this on Kickstarter and depending on how efficient it is I may jump on it. What do you guys think about this little Qi enabled powerbank?
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects...ration-portable-wireless-charger?ref=category
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It seems pretty decent. If they start selling any of these babies on Amazon, I'd probably jump on board due to not having a wireless charger for my devices yet. Nice find!
Just got word from the creators and they are claiming 70% efficiency.
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So it's just a nice looking, average efficiency, poor battery, overpriced qi power bank?
Znamir81 said:
So it's just a nice looking, average efficiency, poor battery, overpriced qi power bank?
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Couldn't write it any better than you did.
What stop anyone from getting a cheap USB power pack and plugging a cheap Qi charger on it? Having a < $20 Qi charger at home, I couldn't recommend paying much more for one. It just work brilliantly and it's cheap as f***.
I just can't seem to see the point of such a device.
Yeah it's neat and nice looking (for some), but it's such a waste of energy (wall power --> battery --> wireless charge --> phone battery) that you'd be better of plugging a USB power pack directly on your phone if in an emergency.
I could see myself using such a device since I got a rubber plug in my micro USB port, but still, that's mostly me being lazy not wanting to use a cable.
That's only my opinion, it might be the next best thing on the market, what do I know
Any thoughts on a super slim qi charger I could attach to a power bank? Thinking about taking your advice and making my own.
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Hi there, simple question... Why all 2m cables I got from eBay failure to efficiently charge my phone? Used with 3 different original HTC chargers but I always get a message stating that not enough power goes to the phone when being used whilst charging. What cable should I buy? I need 2 meters or similar long... Or maybe it is the length of cable that doesn't let enough juice going to the device...? please advice, thanks in advance
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It's because of the length. The longer your cable is, the higher is the resistance (R=p*l/A). I had a similar problem with two cables. One was thin as hell and the other one was thicker. The thicker one charged perfect so if you buy a long cable make sure that it is thick enough to reduce the resistance.
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It's because of the length. The longer your cable is, the higher is the resistance (R=p*l/A). I had a similar problem with two cables. One was thin as hell and the other one was thicker. The thicker one charged perfect so if you buy a long cable make sure that it is thick enough to reduce the resistance.
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Thanks for an advice mate. Any chance for link to website that you bought yours from?
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In my oppinion, length is not the main problem.
Don't buy cables from ebay. Diameter of wires inside the cable affects charging process much more.
Those cheapo ebay cables work enough, so you won't RMA them, but actually those are often only data cables, not intended for charging at all.
Next time, if you break some cables, check original one and that, which you bought - cut them and notice difference in their thickness (wires, not the whole cable).
Once I have bought "ORIGINAL OEM htc charger" from ebay. It was counterfeit, it was charging very slow, so i measured cahrger and it was nothing, but garbage 5V / 1A charger was only able to supply about 0,7 AMPS, but voltage decreased to about 3 V. Ok, so I tossed it away, and I said "ok then, at least I have a cable". wrong. it was same garbage.
From that day, I only buy official accessories. The phone was expensive enough, not to buy cheap accessories.
So my advice: try to avoid those cheap cables. Try to buy cable of any length you need, but some more expensive one.
A phone charges more slowly if it thinks the USB cable is offering a data connection.
Google for "usb short data pins", or just go straight to https://plus.google.com/+AmiFischman/posts/2JzDyodpJsq
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Thanks for an advice mate. Any chance for link to website that you bought yours from?
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I bought from a store in germany, where I live.
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I picked up three Samsung USB cables that were being offered for $2 and they work extremely well. Decent length and fast charging.
USB Cables
remusator said:
In my oppinion, length is not the main problem.
Don't buy cables from ebay. Diameter of wires inside the cable affects charging process much more.
Those cheapo ebay cables work enough, so you won't RMA them, but actually those are often only data cables, not intended for charging at all.
Next time, if you break some cables, check original one and that, which you bought - cut them and notice difference in their thickness (wires, not the whole cable).
Once I have bought "ORIGINAL OEM htc charger" from ebay. It was counterfeit, it was charging very slow, so i measured cahrger and it was nothing, but garbage 5V / 1A charger was only able to supply about 0,7 AMPS, but voltage decreased to about 3 V. Ok, so I tossed it away, and I said "ok then, at least I have a cable". wrong. it was same garbage.
From that day, I only buy official accessories. The phone was expensive enough, not to buy cheap accessories.
So my advice: try to avoid those cheap cables. Try to buy cable of any length you need, but some more expensive one.
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detail information. The inner cable should be 20 AWG or bigger.
Monoprice sells these cables. You can choose what AWG. Theyre inexpensive and quality control on them are pretty amazing.
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Monoprice sells these cables. You can choose what AWG. Theyre inexpensive and quality control on them are pretty amazing.
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+1 for Monoprice cables and 2.1a charger
http://www.frys.com/product/8031734?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG is where I got mine (they have a store near me, but ship Intl). It charges my Verizon HTC one efficiently with the OEM plug. 10ft is 3.3m give or take .1 they have different colors, I just prefer red
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