I wanted to just add a comment to a thread somewhere expressing a valid point in regards to s-off.....but it should almost be said in all of them so here it is.
A lot of people have growing concerns regarding s-off ever being re-accomplished with the new hboot versions (1.54 etc). People say that when the VZW S4 can't even get unlocked, how do we expect this to ever happen for HTC? An extremely large oversight that people are missing here is that yes, the VZW S4 community is very large. And with regards to unlocking the bootloader, you could also include the AT&T crowd into the mix as its kinda a dual deal. But these are the only two carrier devices being effected by the bootloader issue. Both carriers xda communities combined. However, when it comes to s-off for our device, you're not just involving VZW users. Or just adding another carrier to the mix. You literally have EVERY HTC One around the globe effected by this circumstance. So not only do you have vzw devs working on it, but at&t, tmo, sprint, rogers, bell, etc etc etc etc etc.....all of am around the globe. There are FAR FAR FAR more people interested in this than there are people for other bootloaders for other devices. This is the advantage of owning a worldwide single-product release.
So yes, I say there is a significantly larger hope for s-off being achieved than most people give credit for.
EXAMPLE - look at how many devices were effected by moonshine/revone and tell me how many phones/carriers were obtainable through this....:good:
TechSavvy2 said:
I wanted to just add a comment to a thread somewhere expressing a valid point in regards to s-off.....but it should almost be said in all of them so here it is.
A lot of people have growing concerns regarding s-off ever being re-accomplished with the new hboot versions (1.54 etc). People say that when the VZW S4 can't even get unlocked, how do we expect this to ever happen for HTC? An extremely large oversight that people are missing here is that yes, the VZW S4 community is very large. And with regards to unlocking the bootloader, you could also include the AT&T crowd into the mix as its kinda a dual deal. But these are the only two carrier devices being effected by the bootloader issue. Both carriers xda communities combined. However, when it comes to s-off for our device, you're not just involving VZW users. Or just adding another carrier to the mix. You literally have EVERY HTC One around the globe effected by this circumstance. So not only do you have vzw devs working on it, but at&t, tmo, sprint, rogers, bell, etc etc etc etc etc.....all of am around the globe. There are FAR FAR FAR more people interested in this than there are people for other bootloaders for other devices. This is the advantage of owning a worldwide single-product release.
So yes, I say there is a significantly larger hope for s-off being achieved than most people give credit for.
EXAMPLE - look at how many devices were effected by moonshine/revone and tell me how many phones/carriers were obtainable through this....:good:
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Boy I hope you're right lol
Didn't really think about it this way, +1 for I hope you're right.
The problem is that when the bootloader isn't locked down, there's very little reason for people to really get S-OFF
S-off shouldn't be our concern. Unlocking the bootloader should be our main concern, along with root. In all honesty, s-off isn't even necessary and most people don't even know what it actually does. It could cause more harm than good.
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S-Off is fun though, I used to love being able to flash radios whenever I wanted on my Thunderbolt without an RUU. Flashing custom splash screens was fun too.
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All I want is the Google Edition rom, or as close as we can get to it.
If s-off isn't necessary for that, then I'm not concerned about s-off. I mean I hope it happens for the people who want it though
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josh995 said:
All I want is the Google Edition rom, or as close as we can get to it.
If s-off isn't necessary for that, then I'm not concerned about s-off. I mean I hope it happens for the people who want it though
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You can install newts Google edition with an unlocked bootloader, s-off not necessary.
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do you need s-off for boot animations? I want that google play edition animation
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do you need s-off for boot animations? I want that google play edition animation
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Nope. Just root. Splash screens need s-off.
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S-OFF is nice if we can't get an unlocked bootloader through HTCDEV. At this point, I'll take what I can get. I am waiting to pull the trigger on the phone now that HTC shut off the unlocking option. There might be a step where we can:
1- get s-off
2- unlock bootloader / load custom recovery
3- disable s-off (s-on again)
squabbi has built a nice AIO toolkit and I suspect when something is found for our hboot (or another attack vector is found) the toolkit can be modified to include the verizon version. I think once we (verizon people) can change the CID, we will be able to unlock the bootloader and it will be a non-issue.
Maj
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S-OFF is nice if we can't get an unlocked bootloader through HTCDEV. At this point, I'll take what I can get. I am waiting to pull the trigger on the phone now that HTC shut off the unlocking option. There might be a step where we can:
1- get s-off
2- unlock bootloader
3- disable s-off (s-on again)
squabbi has built a nice AIO toolkit and I suspect when something is found for our hboot (or another attack vector is found) the toolkit can be modified to include the verizon version. I think once we (verizon people) can change the CID, we will be able to unlock the bootloader and it will be a non-issue.
Maj
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If we got s-off then the bootloader wouldn't even matter.
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If we got s-off then the bootloader wouldn't even matter.
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I updated my #2 to add flashing custom recovery.. I currently have my rezound s-off, but I never liked it being s-off. I always prefer being s-on for extra protection. (a phone condom if you will)
Take from a someone who owed a ONE from various carriers, S-off is overrated.
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MajikUF said:
I updated my #2 to add flashing custom recovery.. I currently have my rezound s-off, but I never liked it being s-off. I always prefer being s-on for extra protection. (a phone condom if you will)
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Yeah. I remember when I screwed up my rezound. Then I fixed it, put up a guide and got hated on lol
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Take from a someone who owed a ONE from various carriers, S-off is overrated.
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This^ I tell everyone this. They think they need s-off when really they are just too lazy to flash a boot img.
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Yeah. I remember when I screwed up my rezound. Then I fixed it, put up a guide and got hated on lol
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This^ I tell everyone this. They think they need s-off when really they are just too lazy to flash a boot img.
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What about aroma kernels? It is not overrated. Sometimes a boot img cannot be extracted and like I said it makes aroma flashing impossible (maybe TWRP dumlock supports it not sure). Even so, its nice knowing the carrier can never lock my device or unroot it. And as of now, no one else can unlock their device. So no, S-off is not overrated. Just so everyone knows, s-off will not be achieved until the newest hboot is cracked. I am not sure if its possible but if it is, it will probably take a few months. Good luck to everyone working on it
S-Off is kind of a big deal. You can remove that tampered flag when you unlock your boot loader. Hell you can unlock your phone without losing all your data and flagging that tampered line. Most people enjoy peace of mind of being able to relock the bootloader without tampered so the factory warranty and other securities are still available to them.
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S-Off is kind of a big deal. You can remove that tampered flag when you unlock your boot loader. Hell you can unlock your phone without losing all your data and flagging that tampered line. Most people enjoy peace of mind of being able to relock the bootloader without tampered so the factory warranty and other securities are still available to them.
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As much as I want s-off, these are definitely not the reasons why.... I'm contempt with what I'm doing to my warranty.
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S-Off is kind of a big deal. You can remove that tampered flag when you unlock your boot loader. Hell you can unlock your phone without losing all your data and flagging that tampered line. Most people enjoy peace of mind of being able to relock the bootloader without tampered so the factory warranty and other securities are still available to them.
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But there is also a risk you could ruin your phone if you do something wrong. I enjoy s-off but people need to understand what they are truly doing to their phones before they do something they can't undo.
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Take from a someone who owed a ONE from various carriers, S-off is overrated.
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Take it from someone whom also owned a HTC One that was s-off on other carriers.... you are completely wrong.
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Hello Dear XDa'er
I bought myself the HTC one X and I wanted to ask if possible in the future would be S-OFF? I dare not htcdev on the way because of the warranty.
Thank you for your answers.
Ps: sorry for my bad English
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Hello Dear XDa'er
I bought myself the HTC one X and I wanted to ask if possible in the future would be S-OFF? I dare not htcdev on the way because of the warranty.
Thank you for your answers.
Ps: sorry for my bad English
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Only time will tell
FordSierra88 said:
Hello Dear XDa'er
I bought myself the HTC one X and I wanted to ask if possible in the future would be S-OFF? I dare not htcdev on the way because of the warranty.
Thank you for your answers.
Ps: sorry for my bad English
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S-Off is not guaranteed to come at any time. It may do, but as far as I know Revolutionary has been stumped at the latest HBoots.
Also, illegitemate S-Offing is not going to rescue your warranty necessarily, and neither is using HTC-Dev going to totally break your warranty:
http://htcdev.com/bootloader/ said:
Please understand that you will not be able to return your device to the original state and going forward your device may not be held covered under the warranty for all claims resulting from the unlocking of the bootloader. HTC bears no responsibility if your device is no longer usable afterwards.
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Their point is that they won't repair under warranty anything that breaks as a result of unlocking the bootloader.
There isn't any hard-and-fast rule here, and people have reported different experiences, but it's better than nothing!
Sorry to ask this... i consider myself not a noob on android, rooting etc, but for some reason S-OFF has passed me by... what is S-OFF?
torespen said:
Sorry to ask this... i consider myself not a noob on android, rooting etc, but for some reason S-OFF has passed me by... what is S-OFF?
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S-Off is (in my understanding) essentially full control over all partitions (including CID which controls network lock etc.), radio partitions, etc.
HTC-Dev provides a semi S-Off bootloader state, allowing you to write to all system partitions EXCEPT the above (and possibly others that I've forgotten about).
The advantages of full S-Off are: able to carrier-unlock phone for free, able to update radio without flashing official HTC ROMs, able to revert to S-On fairly simply.
With HTC-Dev, although you can "re-lock" your bootloader, the phone reports as "re-locked" rather than "locked".
(I may be making all of this up but it is my understanding based on my research).
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Their point is that they won't repair under warranty anything that breaks as a result of unlocking the bootloader.
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That would mean that your warranty would remain identical, only bricked devices wouldn't be repaired. (If you limit yourself to installing roms, that is)
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That would mean that your warranty would remain identical, only bricked devices wouldn't be repaired. (If you limit yourself to installing roms, that is)
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Problem being if you read through their examples about overclocking etc and killing your cpu. It's very easy to say that some hardware has failed due to custom rom etc.
Now I have a nooby question too. I come from a desire which was prior to bootloader-gate (oh sigh, i did one of those). AFAIK our bootloader was unlocked from the factory so we could flash stuff straight up. S-OFF was pretty easy as well so we could do whatever we wanted pretty much
AFAIK, without unlocking bootloader, the best we can do is flash stock roms and attain root (once a stock bootloader method is available) but we can't get into custom roms/kernels without unlock? I'm pretty much at the point where I want to start tinkering with things... but just wonder if it's worth waiting, or if I should just go and htcdev unlock my phone now
I am a little wary of the warranty implications above, that is the only reason i hesitate.
M.
The S stands for Security
mattman83 said:
I am a little wary of the warranty implications above, that is the only reason i hesitate.
M.
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Me too
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That would mean that your warranty would remain identical, only bricked devices wouldn't be repaired. (If you limit yourself to installing roms, that is)
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Well, possibly. As mentioned above, it's possible that the manufacturer could argue that, e.g. screen issue was due to overclock of CPU, overheating of glue holding screen resulting in the problem.
In reality I doubt that would happen, as (in the UK at least) under warranty it falls on the manufacturer to prove that the problem was due to a non-warranty problem. The CPU won't "remember" that it's been overclocked, and so with a factory reset I can't see how they could tell.
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Problem being if you read through their examples about overclocking etc and killing your cpu. It's very easy to say that some hardware has failed due to custom rom etc.
Now I have a nooby question too. I come from a desire which was prior to bootloader-gate (oh sigh, i did one of those). AFAIK our bootloader was unlocked from the factory so we could flash stuff straight up. S-OFF was pretty easy as well so we could do whatever we wanted pretty much
AFAIK, without unlocking bootloader, the best we can do is flash stock roms and attain root (once a stock bootloader method is available) but we can't get into custom roms/kernels without unlock? I'm pretty much at the point where I want to start tinkering with things... but just wonder if it's worth waiting, or if I should just go and htcdev unlock my phone now
I am a little wary of the warranty implications above, that is the only reason i hesitate.
M.
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I think since HTCDev started there has been far less S-On rooting, for two reasons. First of all, why bother? We can attain mostly-S-Off "legitimately" so why waste energy working out how to root S-On. Secondly, the lock-down of the OS has got better with every iteration, and, at least on recent phones, no hack has been discovered (again, there's less incentive to try due to HTCDev).
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The S stands for Security
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D'oh, meant to type that and forgot. Lol
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I think since HTCDev started there has been far less S-On rooting, for two reasons. First of all, why bother? We can attain mostly-S-Off "legitimately" so why waste energy working out how to root S-On. Secondly, the lock-down of the OS has got better with every iteration, and, at least on recent phones, no hack has been discovered (again, there's less incentive to try due to HTCDev).
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Point taken
So basically it's harder to do than ever and less incentive to do than ever. Solution... go do htcdev I actually signed up for the site a while reading the thread, just waiting for the (apparently very slow) confirmation email. No work tomorrow due to good friday so I suspect my phone might get some ARHD love
I think warranty laws in australia are similar to what you say. Using non-genuine ink in printer they can't void your entire warranty, only if they can prove the ink was the issue. Slightly different issue, it's not like you've just hacked your printer firmware to increase print speeds or something... but I get what you mean.
M.
Edit - signed up again on different email and got activation stuff immediately - silly. Noticed they need to update the unlock page though... first step "remove and reinsert the battery" heh
Edit 2 - all done
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I thought it stood for 'Safety'
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Excellent explanation and discussion by qpop and mattman on S-off thing. All I needed to know as new HTC user.
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For those waiting for S-OFF by Revolutionary, it looks like you are very unlikely to get it. Baadnewz just asked in the #alpharev channel if the One would get S-OFF:
[19:46] <baadnewz> IEF you have any plans for ONE ? :B
[19:46] <baadnewz> (kick incoming)
[19:47] <burgd> To Krait or not To Krait
[19:56] <_anonymous> you got one bnz?
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[20:13] * baadnewz is now known as baad_away
[20:17] * zookii ([email protected]/zookii) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
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[20:20] <@IEF> baad_away: One X is pretty unlikely, we focus on qualcomm stuff.
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That's a real shame that. I guess now it's either HTCDev or nothing.
Odd reply, the XL (or X 4G) is going to be the far less popular device, I don't know why you would intentionally look at something that's going to get that much less usage?
M.
Evil-Dragon said:
For those waiting for S-OFF by Revolutionary, it looks like you are very unlikely to get it. Baadnewz just asked in the #alpharev channel if the One would get S-OFF:
That's a real shame that. I guess now it's either HTCDev or nothing.
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That is a shame.. Guess I'll roll with S-ON in a few days if there's no word of any further progress.
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Well according to Paul over at Modaco, S-Off is being worked on.
http://android.modaco.com/topic/352...s-mac-and-linux/page__p__1932154#entry1932154
f3nd3r said:
Well according to Paul over at Modaco, S-Off is being worked on.
http://android.modaco.com/topic/352...s-mac-and-linux/page__p__1932154#entry1932154
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Cool, anyone know if it will be possible to go from S-ON to S-OFF?
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Might as well reply here, then.
The One X is a completely different architecture (nvidia tegra), with it's own set of restrictions/security measures. Therefore, it felt it was not wise to get peoples' hopes up, and simply said it's 'unlikely'. There's really no point in asking for 'plans', you don't plan on finding exploits.
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Odd reply, the XL (or X 4G) is going to be the far less popular device, I don't know why you would intentionally look at something that's going to get that much less usage?
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There's One S and One XL which run on Snapdragon S4. Who says it will be 'far less popular' ? Because you say so?
If you knew a bit about architectural differences and our focus on Qualcomm-chipset phones in the past, then maybe you wouldn't find the reply so odd. I find your reply superficial. Does that help the discussion? Nope.
Sorry if I offended, that was not my intention. I'm a huge fan of what you've done in the past (being a Desire user). I do appreciate the difference between the phones and I get that even though the UI is basically identical, alot of the underlying parts are vastly different.
I also get that you do have more experience with the qualcomm since that's where you've focused in the past (and also the provider HTC have used most - the tegra is a little different for them).
Well, I'm sold. Those are the two magic words I needed to hear. Can't wait for that bad boy.
http://androidheadlines.com/2012/05/featured-verizon-wireless-turns-down-htcs-one-series-in-favor-of-droid-incredible-4g-lte.html
Even though the incredible 4G seems to have a few things that it lacks compared to the One X, it does have an unlocked bootloader which the One X does not. It seems that there was quite following of fans that wouldn’t have it any other way. This small group of android nerds is extremely passionate about the capability to tweak and change their devices. For those of you that are unfamiliar with what an unlocked bootloader does, it allows you somewhat endless possibilities to customize the firmware (or OS) on your device. Which can enhance its user experience, looks, features and the like. This move by HTC to keep the bootloader unlocked is because HTC says they fully support the ability to keep things open and customizable.
HTC is fully committed to the bootloader unlocking program and that Verizon is also completely behind it. Ultimately leading to its choice to make the incredible 4G LTE with this feature. While Verizon is behind the idea now. They could of course change their mind at any time.
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I'm very surprised by this news and very happy at the same time. This might bring some additional devs to the phone. Thanks for the news. You may want to post this in the Incredible 4G sub forum if its not already there.
That's great news and really cool to see that Htc is still going to be allowing the unlocked bootloader.
I'm sure this will be a big plus for me when it comes time to try out a new phone in the future
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That's great news and really cool to see that Htc is still going to be allowing the unlocked bootloader.
I'm sure this will be a big plus for me when it comes time to try out a new phone in the future
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But still, the fact remains that it will be unlocked by HTC's online unlock tool. Which does not grant S-OFF. Granted that this is better than nothing, but I really want to know how much can be done without S-OFF. I mean, S-OFF was a huge thing for rezound, which recently got it. And I heard, until S-OFF was achieved, AOSP ROMs were impossible on Rezound. So, how much can be done by simply unlocking it by HTC's tool and not getting S-OFF? What is the difference between unlocked bootloader with S-ON (i.e. HTC's unlock method) and unlocked Bootloader via S-OFF like I did for the Dinc2? That is my basic question.
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But still, the fact remains that it will be unlocked by HTC's online unlock tool. Which does not grant S-OFF. Granted that this is better than nothing, but I really want to know how much can be done without S-OFF. I mean, S-OFF was a huge thing for rezound, which recently got it. And I heard, until S-OFF was achieved, AOSP ROMs were impossible on Rezound. So, how much can be done by simply unlocking it by HTC's tool and not getting S-OFF? What is the difference between unlocked bootloader with S-ON (i.e. HTC's unlock method) and unlocked Bootloader via S-OFF like I did for the Dinc2? That is my basic question.
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SON and SOFF has nothing todo with getting AOSP. The main problems with aosp on our phones is getting the RIL to work with aosp. Our devs have said the ril is the most complicated theyve seen.
Anyway, when we were just s on we can still have perm root, the thing is kernels werent able to flash in recovery, was flashed in bootloader. We couldnt flash radios, or change firmwares. But it was just fine. Now that we have soff everythings easier to flash. Though getting soff required a wire trick to short out the motherboard to acquire it.
So having just an unlocked bootloader will just mean 1 more step flashing roms, thats all.
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Well, I'm sold. Those are the two magic words I needed to hear. Can't wait for that bad boy.
http://androidheadlines.com/2012/05...ries-in-favor-of-droid-incredible-4g-lte.html
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I can't understand how Verizon can play double standards like this. On the one side, they say they are 100% behind unlocking bootloaders for HTC and on the other hand they don't allow Motorola phones like the Droid X2, etc. to have unlocked bootloaders... unimpressed :/
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I can't understand how Verizon can play double standards like this. On the one side, they say they are 100% behind unlocking bootloaders for HTC and on the other hand they don't allow Motorola phones like the Droid X2, etc. to have unlocked bootloaders... unimpressed :/
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i do think its htc dev unlock for the inc lte (not a completely unlocked b/l)
but in (slight) defense of vzw...its not all on them
for example samsung just makes their devices unlocked by default and offers them to carriers so no issue there
htc has their unlock program and i imagine offers the devices with it built in to carriers, and unless one of them threatens to not carry it as is (like possibly att did) then thats how it comes
moto encrypts (which is much stricter than s-on btw) its devices and then asks the carriers if they want them to then unlock it...none of them are gonna say yes
Hopefully we'll be able to get root with s-off... I want this phone.. 4" screen, step ups in hardware... Hopefully all the great devs will follow from the dinc 1 and 2...
well, the rezound had htc-dev-unlock and just got s-off finally after what 8 months?
s-off is always a possibility.
but htc unlock to me, is still very nice, as we can root, and do just about everything we can with s-off, it's just a little getting used to.
htc unlock may infact even make it so some dev wont want to "waste" time for s-off as the phone is already rooted
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well, the rezound had htc-dev-unlock and just got s-off finally after what 8 months?
s-off is always a possibility.
but htc unlock to me, is still very nice, as we can root, and do just about everything we can with s-off, it's just a little getting used to.
htc unlock may infact even make it so some dev wont want to "waste" time for s-off as the phone is already rooted
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yeah personally i dont care about having to flash kernels through hboot....it wouldnt prevent me from getting the phone...and im imagine much like the rezound and other s3 phones got s-off from the same project, the inc lte would benefit from work on the one series
Still a little bummed about the camera but this is definitely good news. Thanks for the heads up!
I'd like to start off by saying that I am aware that we are nowhere near getting s-off at the present moment so no need to tell me this.
Me and my friend were talking about his HOX and whether he should unlock the bootloader. I said yes - since I've done it myself and benefits outweigh risks. I did a lot of explaining and I also mentioned S-Off. He then asked whether if we could get rid of the evidence of HTCdev unlock when we get S-Off in the future. It was a really interesting question, but...
I didn't know the answer and this is why I turn to the Trusty XDA community to fill us in . I was thinking technically we could since we have access to all of the device rather than just certain parts.
Looking forward to some answers!
Thank you all in advance.
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Yes, you should be able to, if we get S-OFF.
Some will say that htcdev have a record of your IMEI, and so you will lose warranty, but asking for the ability to unlock and unlocking are different things. Plausible deniability.
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Yes, you should be able to, if we get S-OFF.
Some will say that htcdev have a record of your IMEI, and so you will lose warranty, but asking for the ability to unlock and unlocking are different things. Plausible deniability.
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Agreed and understood. Thanks alot.
I just bought one of these off ebay locked to AT&T. I've tried three different unlock services and can't get this phone unlocked. First two said they could not even do it. The last one gave me an unlock code which did not work. They informed me that they get codes directly from the HTC supplier and if that code did not work I would be unable to unlock this phone ever.
I know modding this phone is at its early stages but does anyone think I'll be able to do an unlock similar to the One S in the future? or better yet anyone have a reccomendation for an unlock service. Any advice would be appreciated, I'd hate to resell it over something so basic.
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I just bought one of these off ebay locked to AT&T. I've tried three different unlock services and can't get this phone unlocked. First two said they could not even do it. The last one gave me an unlock code which did not work. They informed me that they get codes directly from the HTC supplier and if that code did not work I would be unable to unlock this phone ever.
I know modding this phone is at its early stages but does anyone think I'll be able to do an unlock similar to the One S in the future? or better yet anyone have a reccomendation for an unlock service. Any advice would be appreciated, I'd hate to resell it over something so basic.
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if 2 vendors said they could not unlock it, its a good possible that it cant be unlocked, most vendors get them directly from HTC or At&t,
That method works with this phone partially , i say that cause i can do the strings n -8/ etc etc etc, and i see my IMEI, but i dont see the *Unlock_code*
could be possible i got the phone already unlock and reason why it doesnt show, or they didnt but the unlock code in the phone this time..
it would be nice to see others try and see if they get results, at least if others do see the *unlock code*
http://cell-code-shop.com
I did buy a code from them, they gave it to me, i never used it so i can't say for a fact this will work, but it depends on if its worth $15 to try.
Have you tried the htc dev way?
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Night_Slayer said:
Have you tried the htc dev way?
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he is wanting to sim unlock it
Sim unlock not hboot unlock
Opps lol
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Thanks to all that responded. I'm going to try and give AT&T a call and see if I can get the code from them. I saw in the One X forum some reported success. If that doesn't work then I'll be patient and start getting this phone ready for new roms in development.
I currently have a Galaxy s 4G and in comparison modding this HTC seems more complicated than I remember compared to my Samsung.
I'm new to HTC, so in which order do I need to do these things? Thanks again
Root, Unlock Boot loader, Recovery, Super CID, -S Off
Unlock bootloader, root, Supercid, s-off, flash custom recovery, backup, flash custom rom
ilostchild said:
Unlock bootloader, root, Supercid, s-off, flash custom recovery, backup, flash custom rom
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Bootloader unlocked. What is the best method to root. I'm pretty sure I saw only one thread and I did not see any feedback in regard to either method. Thanks again
I'm actually curious about the best root method for this phone as well.
Currently the is one in the Android Development section in this sub forum that reads "Depracated".
I just have failed to see an alternative.
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mattplo said:
I'm actually curious about the best root method for this phone as well.
Currently the is one in the Android Development section in this sub forum that reads "Depracated".
I just have failed to see an alternative.
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Thanks for pointing that thread out must have missed it. Any way, it was easy and it worked.
ilostchild said:
if 2 vendors said they could not unlock it, its a good possible that it cant be unlocked, most vendors get them directly from HTC or At&t,
That method works with this phone partially , i say that cause i can do the strings n -8/ etc etc etc, and i see my IMEI, but i dont see the *Unlock_code*
could be possible i got the phone already unlock and reason why it doesnt show, or they didnt but the unlock code in the phone this time..
it would be nice to see others try and see if they get results, at least if others do see the *unlock code*
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I tried to see if I could use the the One S method, like you I don't see the unlock code, but I do see the IMEI. One thing I noticed is that the date 01/26/13 is listed in two places. Do you see that as well? Isn't that the date it becomes illegal to unlock your phone?
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I tried to see if I could use the the One S method, like you I don't see the unlock code, but I do see the IMEI. One thing I noticed is that the date 01/26/13 is listed in two places. Do you see that as well? Isn't that the date it becomes illegal to unlock your phone?
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Just means the unlock code was in the phone this time, and that don't matter now unlocking phones is legal once again.
I'm not sure I follow, I am still locked to AT&T. There does not appear to be an unlock code within that block like the One S. In regards to the date 01/26/13, I see that in the results when I run the command in terminal emulator. I think its odd that date in particular is included in the block. The legal part of unlocking the phone does not concern me.
Update!!!
After several failed attempts with different unlock services I finally got my phone unlocked. I'm not sure why none of the codes worked but thanks to CID and S-Off threads and also the config.dat files sieempi creates I was able to do it. Thanks for everyone's input!
Glad you got it all figured out.
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Bootloader unlocked. What is the best method to root. I'm pretty sure I saw only one thread and I did not see any feedback in regard to either method. Thanks again
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use the one by jmz:fingers-crossed:
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use the one by jmz:fingers-crossed:
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I was waiting for someone to create their rootkit but Im not going to wait anymore. I will get one put together and post it tomorrow sometime after my new one vx arrives
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If anyone is having issues getting the unlock code just contact me. I have done 2 and this one is a keeper. Giving it a test ride. It might be slower than other services but so far 2 of 2.
Service is not free and depending on the kind of user it might be different price. Only pm because this is not sales section.
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Guys a newbie here but eager to learn how to root my htc m7 can anyone help me out with this? I have read that you must use sunshine to unlock this device is this true??I know yall usually hate dealing with nubes but I would appreciate any help. My m7 is horrible now hoorid batt slow operation it needsmajor help guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
I honestly don't remember using anything called sunshine. But, that doesn't necessarily mean anything.
YouTube is your friend! ? im a very visual person when it comes to tech stuff. Search for "HTC One m7 rooting" and then filter it to videos from one year.
Watch them at least twice before starting to do anything. I highly recommend the ROMs by Santod. He has been around for quite some time, and is active in development.
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Guys a newbie here but eager to learn how to root my htc m7 can anyone help me out with this? I have read that you must use sunshine to unlock this device is this true??I know yall usually hate dealing with nubes but I would appreciate any help. My m7 is horrible now hoorid batt slow operation it needsmajor help guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Robertjm said:
I honestly don't remember using anything called sunshine. But, that doesn't necessarily mean anything.
YouTube is your friend! ? im a very visual person when it comes to tech stuff. Search for "HTC One m7 rooting" and then filter it to videos from one year.
Watch them at least twice before starting to do anything. I highly recommend the ROMs by Santod. He has been around for quite some time, and is active in development.
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For the VERIZON variant of the m7, to unlock the boot loader (which u need for root), yes u need sunshine. All other variants can unlock their bootloaders for free via htcdev, but vZw had HTC block all the vzw variants from Doing that. But the bonus is, Sunshine will unlock your boot loader AND gain u S-off. Which u definitely want if u plan on modding your phone. After Sunshine does it's magic, all u have to do is flash TWRP and then flash SuperSU, and you're rooted. Sunshine DOES cost $25, but it's the best $25 I ever spent...