This was posted everywhere else but in here, so I figured I'd bring it here too.
I got a notification from Google Play that this app was on sale for 99 cents for the next week. Highly recommended since most people use either the XDA application or Tapatalk.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.quoord.tapatalkHD&hl=en
Lol! Beat ya to it! Just not in its own thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44585402
For some reason though it won't let me buy the thing!!! :banghead:
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Just bought the app and man this app is sweet! Looks great on Illusion with a custom theme. Really smooth transitions and so many features. Highly recommend this app and for a buck, its totally worth it. Thanks for bringing it up!
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TheLastSidekick said:
This was posted everywhere else but in here, so I figured I'd bring it here too.
I got a notification from Google Play that this app was on sale for 99 cents for the next week. Highly recommended since most people use either the XDA application or Tapatalk.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.quoord.tapatalkHD&hl=en
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Not happy about buying it twice. That's bull excrement.
Funny that the beta would no longer connect to XDA. Buy it again, and suddenly it's working fine. All the annoying bugs fixed without a new beta release. Weird, huh?
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Not happy about buying it twice. That's bull excrement.
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I feel you man. I'm buying it today. I'd ask for a refund honestly from the developer'.
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Aerowinder said:
Not happy about buying it twice. That's bull excrement.
Funny that the beta would no longer connect to XDA. Buy it again, and suddenly it's working fine. All the annoying bugs fixed without a new beta release. Weird, huh?
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I had the same problem when the Tablet version went live to Tapatalk HD. I still had the older beta version from right before it went live. My work around for that was to Fire up the app, let it prompt me to buy the new version and then I just hit back. The prompt closed out and I was able to use the version like normal.
I missed the initial sale of .99 when it came out of beta and the price skyrocketed to $3.99 or something like that. It never came down again. Not sure if anyone can use this work around or not, but I would suggest just ponying up the .99 for the new app. It is a pretty big upgrade in style and performance, so I doubt we'll have to do this all over again for a few years. TTv2 hadn't changed its overall look and functionality ever I think.
I have this new version, uninstalled my previous Tapatalk HD version on my tablet, I still use the TTv2 as well.
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I feel you man. I'm buying it today. I'd ask for a refund honestly from the developer'.
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Good luck with that. The old Rootzwiki app was a skinned Tapatalk and every time they (RW) upgraded the app, they asked for you to buy it again. Pissed a bunch of people off to the point, I am not sure it is even for sale any longer. Might be, but I don't care since I don't have to use it bc of the current and v2 versions of Tapatalk. Plus RW has been sold twice since those dark times. :silly:
And its also only fair to consider thatthis isn't an updated Tapatalk 2. As I understand it, its a completely rebuilt version. With the ammount of work that goes into it, I have no issue parting ways with another dollar.
Betas shouldn't be expected to work once the final release is out. Betas are for testing and working out the kinks before the actual release. They couldve kept it internal and not let you play for free at all! Plus it'd be a much longer wait! If you were the developer, would you want to let the beta version continue to work when this is how you make part of your living?
They couldve done things much differently if they were just out to screw people. No offense if you disagree with me, but if a dollar is too much to ask, stay with Tapatalk 2.
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Sorry, realized that may have come out a little harsh! Not intended! Just trying to consider the amount of work that gets put in and that I don't think anyone should be expected to work for free! Besides, I think woody is right, this'll get us for the next few years I'm sure.
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And its also only fair to consider thatthis isn't an updated Tapatalk 2. As I understand it, its a completely rebuilt version. With the ammount of work that goes into it, I have no issue parting ways with another dollar.
Betas shouldn't be expected to work once the final release is out. Betas are for testing and working out the kinks before the actual release. They couldve kept it internal and not let you play for free at all! Plus it'd be a much longer wait! If you were the developer, would you want to let the beta version continue to work when this is how you make part of your living?
They couldve done things much differently if they were just out to screw people. No offense if you disagree with me, but if a dollar is too much to ask, stay with Tapatalk 2.
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Sorry, realized that may have come out a little harsh! Not intended! Just trying to consider the amount of work that gets put in and that I don't think anyone should be expected to work for free! Besides, I think woody is right, this'll get us for the next few years I'm sure.
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By all means I completely agree. I still have Tapatalk 2 from Amazon for free. And I'm buying Tapatalk 4 tonight. But I could understand the slight anger of having paid 4.00$ supporting an app and developer you love and getting pooped on the next week by a special.
And for anyone who is super frugal, just TiB Tapatalk 4 Beta and reinstall it because it's no longer on the market. Though I'd frown upon this personally. The beta still allowed me to connect to XDA yesterday evening however.
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@DocHoliday77
Understand your thoughts on beta testing. Disagree with them. Don't like the way this new rollout (if you will) happened. For more than 24 hours with the last beta (I did not know a new version was released), it simply would not connect to XDA, but would connect to my other forum accounts. Only one time did it prompt me to update, and it was about the 120th time I tried to log in. In this case, there is no reason to keep a beta internal. Letting consumers shoulder the testing work saves them months of time, and we get an update faster. They turn out the product faster and with far fewer issues than if they do internal testing.
The $0.99 price point is excellent (while it lasts). I use the app every day, and as such, have no problem paying for it (once). My problem with the new update is this: v2 and v4 have the exact same purpose, and let's be honest, the same functionality. It is the same app. With a new holo GUI. That's the problem. I'm inclined to believe v2 will either no longer be updated, or updated much less frequently. Why bother updating the old code? It's working fine.
What it boils down to is I don't want to pay for the same app twice. I would hate to see this practice become commonplace, like DLC has for consoles/PC gaming. Paid updates is a slippery slope.
@Aerowinder
I can totally see where you are coming from. And my statement about keeping beta testing internal was simply just to point out they do have an option. I agree its not the best option, but it is one. I completely agree with you about the benefit of public betas, as I had stated before as well. But I did not realize they would just shut down any part of it without some sort of notice. While I dont expect a beta release to continue functioning after the final release, I would expect a little bit of a grace period before just shutting it down like that! And without notice too. I would agree that this is not good practice.
I realize that the purpose of V2 and V4 are the same, and they offer very similar functionality, but I was under the impression that V4 was a complete rewrite and does add to the features and functionality of V2. Exactly what the differences are, I cannot remember off the top of my head, but I do recall reading about some of them when the beta was first released a month or so ago. But even if the biggest difference is better stability for now and in the near future, I think its worth paying for the new version. Updates can only take an app so far before it needs a major overhaul. And often, starting from the ground up is the best approach when you want to provide a quality product.
Also, try to consider it from a business standpoint. I think it is reasonable to assume that the majority of people who are going to use the app, have long since purchased it. Meaning most new updates and work involved are done with diminishing returns. After a while it begins to cost a lot more to keep it up to date than they receive in sales revenue. If a business continues with that kind of path, pretty soon you will get no updates and the app will simply just die. I do think that it would've been good if they allowed current users to possibly upgrade at a lower cost, but then, I kind of think that is what the .99 sale does anyway. If not for the sale, I would be in more agreement with your position on purchasing the new update. $4-5 is kind of pushing it to begin with, and if you paid full price for the previous one I can certainly understand the resistance there.
All in all, I do get your position on not wanting to purchase the same app twice, I think everyone has been in similar situations where they would be unhappy about a purchase. But I think it has more to do with perception, at least in certain cases. If you look at it a certain way, you might get downright angry about what a developer does, but if you look at it from a different angle, it could have quite the opposite affect.
I remember maybe a year or so ago, there was a weather app that was gaining some popularity, but then the developer decided to create a new app based on the original, but with everything his customers had been requesting. They now had to buy the new one. But to make it worse, he completely took the original down, so no one could even re-download it anymore. After a lot of complaints and gripes, he then proceeded to piss everyone off even more still by re-releasing the original, but as a "Classic" version for which people had to buy a second time if they preferred it over the new one! Needless to say his popularity seemed to die down quite a bit after that.
I know that is OT but thought I would throw it out there as a comparison for a really horrible "upgrade path" chosen by a developer.
In ending, I agree with you that paid updates can be a slippery slope, but in some circumstances, it may be unavoidable if the developer wants to continue providing his products to people. At least it isn't one of those where you have to purchase features by IAP's! Or worse yet, having to spend $50-100 to get enough coins or gems to get the one really cool in-game item!
I must say, though I usually completely agree with what you say, I do tend to enjoy disagreeing with you bro! You always have excellent points to debate against! And you never try to prove an impossible point, just because you really want it to be true! :good:
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Wow! I did not expect that post to be that long!!!! Didn't realize it until I hit Post Reply and it showed it to me!
These are all good points.
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I realize that the purpose of V2 and V4 are the same, and they offer very similar functionality, but I was under the impression that V4 was a complete rewrite and does add to the features and functionality of V2. Exactly what the differences are, I cannot remember off the top of my head, but I do recall reading about some of them when the beta was first released a month or so ago. But even if the biggest difference is better stability for now and in the near future, I think its worth paying for the new version. Updates can only take an app so far before it needs a major overhaul. And often, starting from the ground up is the best approach when you want to provide a quality product.
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Complete rewrites are often necessary, especially for an amateur developer. You learn more over time, change your mind, and receive input from others that changes your mind. I rewrote an app I made over the course of a few years three times, each time a total overhaul and in a new language. Hundreds of hours, but I'm an amateur. Loved every minute of it, though! That's one reason why I don't do it any more, just takes too much time if you aren't charging for the product.
Also, try to consider it from a business standpoint. I think it is reasonable to assume that the majority of people who are going to use the app, have long since purchased it. Meaning most new updates and work involved are done with diminishing returns. After a while it begins to cost a lot more to keep it up to date than they receive in sales revenue. If a business continues with that kind of path, pretty soon you will get no updates and the app will simply just die. I do think that it would've been good if they allowed current users to possibly upgrade at a lower cost, but then, I kind of think that is what the .99 sale does anyway. If not for the sale, I would be in more agreement with your position on purchasing the new update. $4-5 is kind of pushing it to begin with, and if you paid full price for the previous one I can certainly understand the resistance there.
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This would be undoubtedly true if the smartphone market was stagnant. But there are millions of new Android device activations everyday. ICS and JB, so that's v4. This supports my argument that v2 will slowly become obsolete and no longer receive updates due to the aforementioned cost/time ratio. Also, what happens when someone who wants Tapatalk buys v2 because it's the first listing on the market? Then later find out they could have had a far superior version for the same cost? I suspect these people will not be accommodated. And we both know that some people just don't read.
My suggestion would be to make v2 free but with ads, charge for v4 (free upgrade from v2 paid). This avoids people buying the wrong version. It avoids people having to buy the app twice. And it allows people to try an older version to see if they like it before they spend $5 on it (aka a demo). It could even have some features removed to encourage people to buy the paid v4. Google's 15 minute refund period is a joke at best. It takes 15 minutes to get this app set up. It's useless. Anyhow, you can really only charge people for the same idea for so long before they get wise (hoping this happens with Call of Duty sometime soon...). They need to make a new app that people want. They need something innovative. Something unmatched. Tapatalk is no longer that. It's possible that from a business standpoint, this had to be done for the company to stay afloat. But I would argue that if this is the case, it's a sinking ship anyhow. And throwing more money at them isn't going to fix anything.
I remember maybe a year or so ago, there was a weather app that was gaining some popularity, but then the developer decided to create a new app based on the original, but with everything his customers had been requesting. They now had to buy the new one. But to make it worse, he completely took the original down, so no one could even re-download it anymore. After a lot of complaints and gripes, he then proceeded to piss everyone off even more still by re-releasing the original, but as a "Classic" version for which people had to buy a second time if they preferred it over the new one! Needless to say his popularity seemed to die down quite a bit after that.
I know that is OT but thought I would throw it out there as a comparison for a really horrible "upgrade path" chosen by a developer.
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I was unaware of this, but it sounds like he got what he deserved. Good.
In ending, I agree with you that paid updates can be a slippery slope, but in some circumstances, it may be unavoidable if the developer wants to continue providing his products to people. At least it isn't one of those where you have to purchase features by IAP's! Or worse yet, having to spend $50-100 to get enough coins or gems to get the one really cool in-game item!
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I do this with some F2Ps on PC; APB (still a great game to this day) and League. Not doing that with an app on my phone, it's just not going to happen.
I must say, though I usually completely agree with what you say, I do tend to enjoy disagreeing with you bro! You always have excellent points to debate against! And you never try to prove an impossible point, just because you really want it to be true! :good:
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There aren't many people (online) who will take the time to articulate a point, or someone who will actually give information when asked instead of blowing you off. Always enjoy finding someone else who will :good:
Took advantage of the sale but I have problems connecting to the xda forums. It states to contact the administrator if problem persists. Anyone else have this problem when first buying the app?
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Took advantage of the sale but I have problems connecting to the xda forums. It states to contact the administrator if problem persists. Anyone else have this problem when first buying the app?
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Unfortunately, no. Delete the app, and reinstall it and maybe reboot the phone afterwards?
Beta still connecting fine for me
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You beat me to it
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So I bought a Hercules this morning for my wife. I played with it today while she was at work and enjoyed the device. I have owned a Dell Streak 5 and Samsung Vibrant. This seems like a happy median. I am torn though on whether I should use my current Vibrant until the Nexus comes out (If ever) for T-Mo.
Does anyone have some insider information as far as timing or carrier availability for the Nexus? I am afraid my impatience is going to get the best of me and force me into the Hercules.
Please keep in mind that I've never flashed a rom or rooted a phone. I generally just use them for what they are and go about my day. Quadrant scores mean very little, if it performs my tasks that is all I really care about. Navigation, Web surfing, calling, and the occasional movie or music are my main habits, oh and tethering. Although the resolution to some seem to be an issue I did not really notice it and I love the Super Amoled. Thanks in advance guys!
The Tmobil SGS2 is a beast but the nexus prime is verizon exclusive so if u want to wait awhile until it comes to other carriers, go ahead. i love my SGS2
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The Tmobil SGS2 is a beast but the nexus prime is verizon exclusive so if u want to wait awhile until it comes to other carriers, go ahead. i love my SGS2
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That is what I heard, but how long do these type of exclusive offers usually last?
One other question about this device. Does it still allow USB tethering and wifi hotspot?
i was gonna wait for the nexus too but i said frick it and bought an SGS2.if the nexus is all that and a bag of chips when it comes out ill just sell this phone and get it. e-bay dont discriminate and if i lose a hundred or 2 on a phone then i really could care less. only thing about the nexus that ive never really liked is the rom skin that comes with it. ill probably just use this phone till next year whe the next superphone after nexus that comes to tmobile that samsung or whoever makes. i get a new phone every year but this year ive gotten two counting my sensation
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That is what I heard, but how long do these type of exclusive offers usually last?
One other question about this device. Does it still allow USB tethering and wifi hotspot?
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1) aprox 3 month
2) it was mentioned in another phone, it does not, but you can get around it by rooting the phone and installing the app to allow tethering
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1) aprox 3 month
2) it was mentioned in another phone, it does not, but you can get around it by rooting the phone and installing the app to allow tethering
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I gotta say that really pisses me off. We can't root the phones yet either can we? I don't mind learning something new, but forcing me to is aggravating me. T-mo has always been a pretty laid back and unrestricted company, but this kind of bull **** is about to send me off.
don't worry, the root will come soon enough
today is the official 1st day....
even the best of phone hackers/developers will need at least 24hrs of continuous work to get it root right
Oh no sweat. I m not in that big of a rush. I am just new to "rooting" and generally like very thorough instructions when performing something technical. I just feel like T-mobile is spitting in our faces by limiting us on this all of a sudden.
**** it took a couple months for the sensation but once it was there it was so worth it ....just be patient people
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Oh no sweat. I m not in that big of a rush. I am just new to "rooting" and generally like very thorough instructions when performing something technical. I just feel like T-mobile is spitting in our faces by limiting us on this all of a sudden.
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i promise you u will get them. the guys on this site know their ****e and once its figured out they give pretty noob-proof guides to do all of it.been on this site for a couple years now and never had any problems just as long as you follow the directions exactly
http://androidandme.com/2011/11/dev...xy-nexus-and-the-launch-that-could-have-been/
I agree 110%. Still amazes me a company can botch this as badly as its been done.
And as soon as we get them in out hands, we'll all laugh and forget about this.
that was a fantastic article Dustin put together
Simply brilliant. The article summed up what will undoubtedly become known as the Great GNex Clusterf--k. As pukemon suggested in another thread, the hype is losing steam and potential customers are beginning to look elsewhere. Way to go, Google/Samsung/Verizon!
seems everyone here is forgetting that google will never market the Nexus like the iphone. This phone is for "US". Its not the most anticipated device of the yr, come on. Nexus One, Nexus S, little promotion. They not even trying to compete with the iphone. Its a Tech geek phone. Nobody in the real world knows about it
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http://androidandme.com/2011/11/dev...xy-nexus-and-the-launch-that-could-have-been/
I agree 110%. Still amazes me a company can botch this as badly as its been done.
And as soon as we get them in out hands, we'll all laugh and forget about this.
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too little too late indeed
SGS2 took all the spotlight this year
So a few weeks back i decided i was going to buy the latest greatest phone, which i have never done before. I did a little research and decided i would get the galaxy nexus when it came out, and to my surprise in just a couple of months lucky me!
I am a gamer and i am used to waiting years for the things i want. I read some forums of phone junkies and they are being huge babies about a couple of weeks WTF chill out.
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too little too late indeed
SGS2 took all the spotlight this year
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And as soon as the new year comes in we'll all be anticipating the SGS3.
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So a few weeks back i decided i was going to buy the latest greatest phone, which i have never done before. I did a little research and decided i would get the galaxy nexus when it came out, and to my surprise in just a couple of months lucky me!
I am a gamer and i am used to waiting years for the things i want. I read some forums of phone junkies and they are being huge babies about a couple of weeks WTF chill out.
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I think the frustration. Is mostly due to the lack of info not the actual release
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Looking on the bright side, more devices announced with "better" specs mean the price for Nexus can't be too high, or people would turn away from it and buy phones with the same high price but "better" specs. Google/Samsung will reduce the price to make it competitive with recently announced phones.
I feel the same way. Google dropped the ball. I hope they go with HTC for the next Nexus
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what the **** is the deal with the google/samsung/"verizon??"
its already been anounced that it wont be a verizon exclusive
The Nexus meant to be a guideline for where Google wants the direction of Android to go on phones and a baseline for developers to target. If Google tried to make it into the pinnacle of Android they would likely upset all their OEMs. Google doesn’t want to compete with the companies which are distributing their platform.
Neither Google nor Samsung really wants the Nexus to be a big seller, they just want it as a marketing tool. As for Verizon…who cares?
I agree. It's the details that are driving me nuts! I returned my GS2 before my 30 days were up, and I really liked the phone. I went back to using my Nexus One, and boy does it suck to go so far back. I've almost thrown it twice! I've always enjoyed the Nexus line due to pure android and quick updates.
I scour the internet multiple times every day for the past few weeks. I just want to know the bloody launch date for the US, where I can buy it, and whether or not the US will get the HSPA+ version right away? Is that so much to ask for?
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I am a gamer and i am used to waiting years for the things i want. I read some forums of phone junkies and they are being huge babies about a couple of weeks WTF chill out.
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if you are into games, you should seriously reconsider
most games out there are develop for the Exynos (Hummingbird) CPU
if you go for this phone, your choices of good games will be greatly chopped in 50% or more
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if you are into games, you should seriously reconsider
most games out there are develop for the Exynos (Hummingbird) CPU
if you go for this phone, your choices of good games will be greatly chopped in 50% or more
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If he's that into games, he probably wants something with a keyboard/mouse or a controller
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http://androidandme.com/2011/11/dev...xy-nexus-and-the-launch-that-could-have-been/
I agree 110%. Still amazes me a company can botch this as badly as its been done.
And as soon as we get them in out hands, we'll all laugh and forget about this.
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Great article. Now people have no idea about when the phone will be released and how much it will be. We are even not sure about if we can get a unlocked version when the phone is launched. Google has the worst marketing team IMO, they failed chrome book now they are trying to fail nexus again.
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If Google tried to make it into the pinnacle of Android they would likely upset all their OEMs.
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The Nexus One did exactly that. It was for it's time the pinnacle and it did upset OEMs. Even so, the Android world is better for it.
I personally think that they should have released a spec monster and "encouraged" OEMs to try to exceed it.
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Great article. Now people have no idea about when the phone will be released and how much it will be. We are even not sure about if we can get a unlocked version when the phone is launched. Google has the worst marketing team IMO, they failed chrome book now they are trying to fail nexus again.
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well at least with any Nexus phone you are Guaranteed 100% Unlocked, and easy Root via stock Bootloader
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well at least with any Nexus phone you are Guaranteed 100% Unlocked, and easy Root via stock Bootloader
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yes, that is the point I am trying to make. A nexus is always unlocked, with the most updated Android system But a company like Google should not have such a poor marketing strategy: The HK event grabs everyone's eyeballs, but no body has any idea about the release date for the GSM version in US at all. Verizon may get it before or after TG; the launch of UK GN may be delayed; Verizon may have an exclusion period, etc. There are too many rumors because Google itself have no idea about its own product.
However, I will get a GN, I really want the ICS
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Looking on the bright side, more devices announced with "better" specs mean the price for Nexus can't be too high, or people would turn away from it and buy phones with the same high price but "better" specs. Google/Samsung will reduce the price to make it competitive with recently announced phones.
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I'm suffering because my wife's N1 died and she's eyeing mine. She doesn't want "huge" screen and was looking for a used N1 so I found one for her...mine as soon as I can get a new phone. So, I'm in a bind.
I've put a line in the sand. December 1st I'm buying an SGS2 or whatever else non-Moto is top of the line at the time.
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I agree. It's the details that are driving me nuts! I returned my GS2 before my 30 days were up, and I really liked the phone. I went back to using my Nexus One, and boy does it suck to go so far back. I've almost thrown it twice! I've always enjoyed the Nexus line due to pure android and quick updates.
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I think that most of the people interested in the Galaxy Nexus could care less about the pure android experience. Don't we all root/ROM our phones? I rooted my N1 less than 24hrs after buying it and haven't looked back.
Since the SGS2 is already rooted and ROM'd, I don't care at all about the actual OS. ICS will be coming to the SGS2, question is will it come via ROM kitchen or OTA update. Either way, I'd be happy. Of course I'd be happier with the GN, but at this point I'm so frustrated with the lack of information that I'm buying whatever is available with the best hardware on December 1st.
... from the Google Play store, to be precise. I bet they're now selling them with Jelly Bean preinstalled, right?
Has anyone here bought one of the newer ones? How's the performance?
bought mine from a local telco,come preloaded with Jellybean
so far its good no problems at all
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Yes, so far so good its the best phone I've ever had
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I bought one brand new recently from Amazon, came with ICS. You can't buy the GNex from the google store in the UK, only the Nexus 7. It's a superb phone; I've had a GS2, Motorola Defy, iPhone, Galaxy Note and this is SO much better than all of them. It's all the great bits of Android with the simplicity and clean look of iOS (but it actually does stuff). I quite liked what Motorola did with Android almost better than Samsung but there's a few good bits on touchwiz. There's no doubt in my mind though that plain Android is LOADS better.
I wish some other manufacturers offered pure Android phones. WHy don't they? I don't particularly want to root my phone and install custom firmware and I really like the GNex but it'd be nice to have a choice of handset...I feel like from now on if I want to stick with neutral Android (which I do!) I'll only ever have 1 choice of phone! Why can't HTC, Motorola or Asus make a neutral Android phone?
Yes
I bought mine just a few days ago, owned a SII but wanted pure Android the Nexus
is fast and sleek with JB glad i bought it.
I bought a 2nd one last week. Still comes with ICS but got updated within the first 30 minutes.
Purchased mine from the Google Play store a few days ago. Still had ICS on it, but I updated to JB immediately.
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I bought a 2nd one last week. Still comes with ICS but got updated within the first 30 minutes.
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Same here but about a month ago.
Probably be a while before they come with JB. They're not huge sellers (I see people with S2s and S3s every time I go out in London but actually have never seen anybody with a Nexus) and it's doubtful that Google would open all the boxes to upgrade them...
I just got mine from the play store the other day. as others have stated came with ICS and was immediately able to upgrade to JB. performance is very good, although first thing I did was install CNA 3.5 and franco nightly kernel
I bought mine last week from the Play store, which stated that it comes with JB. The unit arrived Wednesday and had ICS. It immediately began downloading the JB update. A little irritating that they do that, but eh, it was over soon enough.
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I bought mine last week from the Play store, which stated that it comes with JB. The unit arrived Wednesday and had ICS. It immediately began downloading the JB update. A little irritating that they do that, but eh, it was over soon enough.
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Kinda petty to complain about but i got my gnex two weeks ago by way of eBay. New in box sealed and had 4.0.4 on it. I'm on toroplus
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Kinda petty to complain about but i got my gnex two weeks ago by way of eBay. New in box sealed and had 4.0.4 on it. I'm on toroplus
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Petty to complain about paying $350 for something and finding out it wasn't what you paid for? Most people would complain if that's what they got on a $5 purchase...
Nonetheless, it's not a "I'm going to call Google and complain" type of complaint. It's more of a "buyer beware" issue. It's good to give the market feedback so people know what they can possibly expect.
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Petty to complain about paying $350 for something and finding out it wasn't what you paid for? Most people would complain if that's what they got on a $5 purchase...
Nonetheless, it's not a "I'm going to call Google and complain" type of complaint. It's more of a "buyer beware" issue. It's good to give the market feedback so people know what they can possibly expect.
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Whether an ota or not its the same jb. It was what you paid for a gnex that is running the latest jb available from the carrier. There is nothing for a buyer to beware about. Jb capable doesn't mean preloaded. Should a waited a few weeks or a month longer it would be preloaded once old stock sells. Just to be clear I would be the first to complain if it said that and there was no ota.
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Whether an ota or not its the same jb. It was what you paid for a gnex that is running the latest jb available from the carrier. There is nothing for a buyer to beware about. Jb capable doesn't mean preloaded. Should a waited a few weeks or a month longer it would be preloaded once old stock sells. Just to be clear I would be the first to complain if it said that and there was no ota.
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There's absolutely a Buyer Beware issue. You (and many others on here) probably have reliable, fast internet. I don't. I, unfortunately, live in a very rural area with unreliable dialup. I tried a few times to update via an internet connection share, but it kept failing. Since I didn't want to load all my work onto it without first updating, I drove 35 miles to the nearest free wifi spot and sat for an hour to get it. All said and done, I'm out several hours, plus about $15 in fuel, and an evening doing that when I could have spent it doing any number of more meaningful things.
Now you may think "who cares?" Anyone else in the same situation, of course. Which is why I posted that information in a forum where someone had asked for our experiences. Because, to someone in my situation, that's pretty useful information.
I'm sorry I don't happen to be exactly like you. Everyone is different, and just because it is no big deal to you doesn't mean it's not a big deal to anyone else. I downplayed all that in my original post because it wasn't really relevant. It's enough to tell others "It doesn't come preloaded with JB the way they advertise it" or some such message.
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I should probably add that they don't advertise it "JB ready" as you say, but rather (from the website):
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Jelly Bean (Android 4.1)
That's from the specs on the phone. Not "soon to be 4.1 with a minor update." Again, I think it's entirely okay to dislike lies in advertising.
Got mine a week and a half ago for my bday. Best device along with my Nexus 7 is the best device I've ever owned
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There's absolutely a Buyer Beware issue. You (and many others on here) probably have reliable, fast internet. I don't. I, unfortunately, live in a very rural area with unreliable dialup. I tried a few times to update via an internet connection share, but it kept failing. Since I didn't want to load all my work onto it without first updating, I drove 35 miles to the nearest free wifi spot and sat for an hour to get it. All said and done, I'm out several hours, plus about $15 in fuel, and an evening doing that when I could have spent it doing any number of more meaningful things.
Now you may think "who cares?" Anyone else in the same situation, of course. Which is why I posted that information in a forum where someone had asked for our experiences. Because, to someone in my situation, that's pretty useful information.
I'm sorry I don't happen to be exactly like you. Everyone is different, and just because it is no big deal to you doesn't mean it's not a big deal to anyone else. I downplayed all that in my original post because it wasn't really relevant. It's enough to tell others "It doesn't come preloaded with JB the way they advertise it" or some such message.
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I should probably add that they don't advertise it "JB ready" as you say, but rather (from the website):
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Jelly Bean (Android 4.1)
That's from the specs on the phone. Not "soon to be 4.1 with a minor update." Again, I think it's entirely okay to dislike lies in advertising.
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You complain about having to drive 35 miles, but earlier in this thread you said:
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I bought mine last week from the Play store, which stated that it comes with JB. The unit arrived Wednesday and had ICS. It immediately began downloading the JB update. A little irritating that they do that, but eh, it was over soon enough.
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Soon enough, or 35 mile drive and an hour wait? Are you just annoyed somebody disagreed with you so decided to make up a little story to make your complaint more valid?
Anyway, if you can't even download a 100MB update what's the point in having a smartphone anyway...do you have to drive another 35 miles every time there's a 10MB maps update? Sometimes where you live precludes you from having the latest technology. That's just how it is. My Dad can't get fast enough internet to stream Lovefilm or Netflix, but he just deals with it, he doesn't buy a Google TV box then start complaining about it.
There should be no buyer beware on this. Nobody thinks that as soon as software is released you'll immediately get it on all the sealed brand new units. It's a BIT dodgy to actually say 'it has JB on it right now' when it doesn't, but 'have JB' and 'will DL JB soon as you turn it on and connect'...is that really that much different? I get what you're saying but when you buy a brand new Windows 7 laptop you have to install updates as soon as you turn it on...not quite the same but I think you're being pedantic.
And no...I have no home internet or 4g I downloaded my ota over 3g.
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You complain about having to drive 35 miles, but earlier in this thread you said:
Soon enough, or 35 mile drive and an hour wait? Are you just annoyed somebody disagreed with you so decided to make up a little story to make your complaint more valid?
Anyway, if you can't even download a 100MB update what's the point in having a smartphone anyway...do you have to drive another 35 miles every time there's a 10MB maps update? Sometimes where you live precludes you from having the latest technology. That's just how it is. My Dad can't get fast enough internet to stream Lovefilm or Netflix, but he just deals with it, he doesn't buy a Google TV box then start complaining about it.
There should be no buyer beware on this. Nobody thinks that as soon as software is released you'll immediately get it on all the sealed brand new units. It's a BIT dodgy to actually say 'it has JB on it right now' when it doesn't, but 'have JB' and 'will DL JB soon as you turn it on and connect'...is that really that much different? I get what you're saying but when you buy a brand new Windows 7 laptop you have to install updates as soon as you turn it on...not quite the same but I think you're being pedantic.
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It doesn't say anywhere it comes preloaded with jb either. Os says 4.1 Jellybean and it is running 4.1 Jellybean he assumed preloaded. "Assumptions are the mother of all fudge ups" paraphrased of course. So again no buyer beware issue. Assumption issue
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Thanks for all the replies, guys. What I really wanted to know was if the newer ones available from the play store came preinstalled with JB. Guess not.
Furthermore, I also wanted to know if any of you people noticed THESE issues: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1394358
It's been a month, and having no further evidence that a software exploit for permanent root/unlocked bootloader is near being released, I'm dumping my HTC One. Hate to have to leave HTC, but with carrier restrictions and not having the ability to customize my device without sending it 2000 miles away, I'm not going to sit on this phone and watch it die for 6 months, then be stuck with it.
I've debated back and forth, and refuse to send my device out to get S-off. I don't think many developers are going to be interested enough to buy the device if they don't already have it knowing this is the only option of doing so. But I do thank Sonic for helping a lot of us out.
Thanks for the help most of you have given me, good luck, and hopefully an exploit comes out by Friday morning.
Have fun. Good luck
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Best you stick with nexus and dev devices if you care so deeply about rooting your phone. No ones going to stop you from leaving but just know all of us will still be enjoying the beautiful hardware of the HTC one
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It's been a month, and having no further evidence that a software exploit for permanent root/unlocked bootloader is near being released, I'm dumping my HTC One. Hate to have to leave HTC, but with carrier restrictions and not having the ability to customize my device without sending it 2000 miles away, I'm not going to sit on this phone and watch it die for 6 months, then be stuck with it.
I've debated back and forth, and refuse to send my device out to get S-off. I don't think many developers are going to be interested enough to buy the device if they don't already have it knowing this is the only option of doing so. But I do thank Sonic for helping a lot of us out.
Thanks for the help most of you have given me, good luck, and hopefully an exploit comes out by Friday morning.
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... Wow... Your own fault... And you had to make this posy because.... Man whatever... People never get smarter...
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Meh, not sure how much I respect the "look at me" post, but as a person who just switched from a Verizon Gnex to this phone today, the post really needed to be made because it does reflect on more peoples opinion than just his
i guess if you can't take the stock, keep out of the non nexus'....OK that was bad
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Meh, not sure how much I respect the "look at me" post, but as a person who just switched from a Verizon Gnex to this phone today, the post really needed to be made because it does reflect on more peoples opinion than just his
i guess if you can't take the stock, keep out of the non nexus'....OK that was bad
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Yea pretty much follow the golden rule. If you aren't fine running stock don't buy it... Unless its a nexus then you get cake.
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I would like to think that your life would be much better if you didn't get so upset about somebody else's choice.
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I would like to think that your life would be much better if you didn't get so upset about somebody else's choice.
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Just jumped ship for the same reason s4 rooted here I come will miss Zoe :silly:
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I would like to think that your life would be much better if you didn't get so upset about somebody else's choice.
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Or someone posting something for drama lol.
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After being a crack flahser for 2 years, I decided that I was spending 6-8 hours per week flashing ROM's. Why, because I could. Other than the few customizations I did, my primary use for an unlocked and rooted phone was to use Google Wallet. Since my new CC offers me an NFC card, I don't even need Wallet. That said, I purchased the One as I wanted a FAST phone without having to tweak it and spend hours unlocking and swapping ROMS.
Point being, the ONE may not be the phone for you if you want to unlock it and customize it further. This is one of those things that you should have been aware of when you purchased it. If knowing there was no exploit availble, and you purchased it with the hopes that there would be, that was your mistake and I agree, you should get rid of it. NEVER purchase a device that has not already been exploited if you like to flash ROMS.
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After being a crack flahser for 2 years, I decided that I was spending 6-8 hours per week flashing ROM's. Why, because I could. Other than the few customizations I did, my primary use for an unlocked and rooted phone was to use Google Wallet. Since my new CC offers me an NFC card, I don't even need Wallet. That said, I purchased the One as I wanted a FAST phone without having to tweak it and spend hours unlocking and swapping ROMS.
Point being, the ONE may not be the phone for you if you want to unlock it and customize it further. This is one of those things that you should have been aware of when you purchased it. If knowing there was no exploit availble, and you purchased it with the hopes that there would be, that was your mistake and I agree, you should get rid of it. NEVER purchase a device that has not already been exploited if you like to flash ROMS.
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AMEN.
Some of the great phones of the past took months to unlock, and the people who waited ended up with awesome
Phones. Anyone who thought this vzw phone would be rooted in a few weeks isn't real bright.
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For all of you that are dumping your Ones for something else BYE . But Im almost possitive there is an exploit for this device and it will not be released untill the 4.3 update rolls out so that it dont get patched , thas my two cents . If after the release there is no exploit , I will then send my SEXY Blue BEAST out to Sonic and let him sprinkle some magic on it , and then we will have Tranquil on our Ones.
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After being a crack flahser for 2 years, I decided that I was spending 6-8 hours per week flashing ROM's. Why, because I could. Other than the few customizations I did, my primary use for an unlocked and rooted phone was to use Google Wallet. Since my new CC offers me an NFC card, I don't even need Wallet. That said, I purchased the One as I wanted a FAST phone without having to tweak it and spend hours unlocking and swapping ROMS.
Point being, the ONE may not be the phone for you if you want to unlock it and customize it further. This is one of those things that you should have been aware of when you purchased it. If knowing there was no exploit availble, and you purchased it with the hopes that there would be, that was your mistake and I agree, you should get rid of it. NEVER purchase a device that has not already been exploited if you like to flash ROMS.
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This. The only things that bother me with sense is the cluttered status bar, the wifi persistent notification, and few other other things.
I just picked up my One last night, having been swayed by the irresistible Best Buy price this week. I'm coming from a Thunderbolt, which was my first Android phone and one on which I had a lot of fun learning to root and ROM. I did that to my heart's content on that phone.
Having said that, I came over to this device because, well, yeah, the price... but also because it's such a massive hardware upgrade over the Tbolt. I moved over to this phone with my eyes wide open. I know there's no exploit at present for the One, and I accept that there may never be one. I'm not crazy about Sense, so one of the first things I did was to run Nova Launcher. Bye bye Blinkfeed, etc. I'll be fine running this phone stock unless and until.
I agree with the general consensus here: don't get a phone you won't be happy with stock.
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I just picked up my One last night, having been swayed by the irresistible Best Buy price this week. I'm coming from a Thunderbolt, which was my first Android phone and one on which I had a lot of fun learning to root and ROM. I did that to my heart's content on that phone.
Having said that, I came over to this device because, well, yeah, the price... but also because it's such a massive hardware upgrade over the Tbolt. I moved over to this phone with my eyes wide open. I know there's no exploit at present for the One, and I accept that there may never be one. I'm not crazy about Sense, so one of the first things I did was to run Nova Launcher. Bye bye Blinkfeed, etc. I'll be fine running this phone stock unless and until.
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Congrats on the major hardware upgrade I had the Thunderbolt for a little while, wasn't a big fan, then got the Rezound. Loved the Rezound. But yes, the HTC One is an amazing device, even stock. I also didn't like blinkfeed, so I am, too, using the Nova launcher.
To the OP, thanks for stopping by, good luck with you future devices. I'll hold out for a hopefull exploit after 4.3 is released, and like others have said, if that doesn't turn out, hopefully I can send my phone to Sonic to get s-off.
Should never buy a phone with the expectation that it will be unlocked. Especially in such a short time frame.
I don't think it was necessary to make a post about getting rid of your phone, but to each their own.
I hope you find the phone that works for you. Just don't buy a phone you aren't happy with out of the box. Sounds like you should either buy a nexus phone, a dev edition phone, or wait and buy a phone that the community has already exploited.
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I think I agree with most people when I say this, I didn't buy the One for it's root or ROM capabilities I bought it because the phone is awesome. I personally think HTC did a great job with Sense 5, before I used this I was on the Thunderbolt and it was still a good phone I'm glad u went with HTC. The only reason I care for root now is adblock and uninstalling Verizon's apps.
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Thank you
Thank you .............................
Still have confidence in XDA Dev's
I can sorta see both sides of this. To me the HTC one is the best phone I have owned BY FAR! S4 was great phone but I like the build, screen, and speaker quality of this one better.
I get the "Don't by the phone if you aren't happy running stock" line of thinking. However, I buy these phones with full confidence that XDA developers will find an exploit within a reasonably short time. Every phone I have owned way back to the Driod X were rootable within a short time. Am I wrong for thinking that?
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I get the "Don't by the phone if you aren't happy running stock" line of thinking. However, I buy these phones with full confidence that XDA developers will find an exploit within a reasonably short time. Every phone I have owned way back to the Driod X were rootable within a short time. Am I wrong for thinking that?
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I'm not going to tell you that you're wrong for thinking anything. You would be wrong, however, in buying a phone with expectations that devs would root the phone and then throw a fit if they don't. If you think they owe you something - I'm not saying you do - or if you think you deserve their efforts on your phone of choice then you would be wrong in that.
The advice to buy a phone you love AS-IS is great advice because if you don't get what you're hoping for, you're still good with your choice.
Is it wrong to hope the devs get you squared away quick? No. Is it wrong to demand it of them? Yes.
Been waiting patiently for a while now
Its getting to be a bit of a farce!
One of the main reasons I got my previous Pixels was that you received the updates first, like clockwork.
The P6P has some major issues, FPS!!, screen going blank, Reception etc. Yet we get it after all the other Pixels!?
And to top it off if you live in the "Google blind spot", ie not USA, you havent even got the FPS fix to make it usable!
So, we get to the delayed date and, SURPRISE! No update again.
Is something going on that we dont know about, feel like a Beta tester and I paid them nearly £1000 to do it!!!!
I don't have any issues with my pixel 6 pro but I'm hoping to get the update today and see if there are any improvements
Nothing yet, might be in around 2-3 hours from now
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Its getting to be a bit of a farce!
One of the main reasons I got my previous Pixels was that you received the updates first, like clockwork.
The P6P has some major issues, FPS!!, screen going blank, Reception etc. Yet we get it after all the other Pixels!?
And to top it off if you live in the "Google blind spot", ie not USA, you havent even got the FPS fix to make it usable!
So, we get to the delayed date and, SURPRISE! No update again.
Is something going on that we dont know about, feel like a Beta tester and I paid them nearly £1000 to do it!!!!
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World first problem... Chill out.
Update is coming today December 13th as per every articles.
If you can't stand the phone, sell it and move on to Samsung or Isheep bangwagon. But be advise they have there share of problems too...
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World first problem... Chill out.
Update is coming today December 13th as per every articles.
If you can't stand the phone, sell it and move on to Samsung or Isheep bangwagon. But be advise they have there share of problems too...
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Please don't tell me to chill out.
If I want to comment on my frustrations about having a "premium" device which is sold with faults and has a promise of updates which are not upheld, then I shall.
If you wish to spend your money and follow what Google says like a "sheep" without voicing your dissatisfaction, then that too is your right.
To paraphrase a brilliant quote "All that is needed for poor service to continue to happen is for good customers to do nothing", I have raised my concerns with Google and would encourage others to raise your voice too.
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Please don't tell me to chill out.
If I want to comment on my frustrations about having a "premium" device which is sold with faults and has a promise of updates which are not upheld, then I shall.
If you wish to spend your money and follow what Google says like a "sheep" without voicing your dissatisfaction, then that too is your right.
To paraphrase a brilliant quote "All that is needed for poor service to continue to happen is for good customers to do nothing", I have raised my concerns with Google and would encourage others to raise your voice too.
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Well said. People coming on here trying to tell others what they can or cannot say p's me off.
Returned mine cause the return window expired before today, the 13th. I don't think one update can magically fix the phone. I hope it does though. I think it'll take time though, months.
In the meantime I'm looking forward to the next gen phones that are only a couple months away. This next gen will be a true leap in next gen terms. Pixel left me cold
Probably not until 1pm EST. Relax.
It will probably come 1000 pacific time (Googles HQ time, it the morning) - that equals 1900 Berlin time (Europe).
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Please don't tell me to chill out.
If I want to comment on my frustrations about having a "premium" device which is sold with faults and has a promise of updates which are not upheld, then I shall.
If you wish to spend your money and follow what Google says like a "sheep" without voicing your dissatisfaction, then that too is your right.
To paraphrase a brilliant quote "All that is needed for poor service to continue to happen is for good customers to do nothing", I have raised my concerns with Google and would encourage others to raise your voice too.
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You are right to voice criticism. Googles behaviour is unacceptable, since they let their new flagship users wait beyond the usual update time without any explanation given. We should have a clear window to expect - not "in a week" - that's a joke. Google is the biggest company in the world, anyone here seriously believe they don't have fixed, internal deadlines? They should simply make a counter: Here, that's when we will start pushing the update.
Should be out around 1pm est.
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You are right to voice criticism. Googles behaviour is unacceptable, since they let their new flagship users wait beyond the usual update time without any explanation given. We should have a clear window to expect - not "in a week" - that's a joke. Google is the biggest company in the world, anyone here seriously believe they don't have fixed, internal deadlines? They should simply make a counter: Here, that's when we will start pushing the update.
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They did exactly that, they said it would be released today (13th). As today is not over (and they don't usually release updates until in the PST time zone ) and was never likely to be AM for the CET time zone.
There will be a lot more fixes in the release for the Pixel 6 than applied to the older models, they most likely wanted to test out the fixes that applied to them in the real world and also have some more time to test the Pixel 6 specific fixes. Better to get it right than rush out bad updates which make things worse in the eyes of those who have issues.
I can understand frustration if you are being seriously hampered by an issue (most people aren't, with minor irritations), but at least give it until the window they said has closed.
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Well said. People coming on here trying to tell others what they can or cannot say p's me off.
Returned mine cause the return window expired before today, the 13th. I don't think one update can magically fix the phone. I hope it does though. I think it'll take time though, months.
In the meantime I'm looking forward to the next gen phones that are only a couple months away. This next gen will be a true leap in next gen terms. Pixel left me cold
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Where did I wrote he can or cannot say ? Please tell me
Actually don't, because I found nothing.....
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Its getting to be a bit of a farce!
One of the main reasons I got my previous Pixels was that you received the updates first, like clockwork.
The P6P has some major issues, FPS!!, screen going blank, Reception etc. Yet we get it after all the other Pixels!?
And to top it off if you live in the "Google blind spot", ie not USA, you havent even got the FPS fix to make it usable!
So, we get to the delayed date and, SURPRISE! No update again.
Is something going on that we dont know about, feel like a Beta tester and I paid them nearly £1000 to do it!!
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Haven't had a single issue with my P6P. You you actually think you're a beta tester you should have had the first android phone the T-Mobile G1, we were actual beta testers. If you don't like the phone simply return it!
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Haven't had a single issue with my P6P. You you actually think you're a beta tester you should have had the first android phone the T-Mobile G1, we were actual beta testers.
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I'm very pleased for you. Pointing out that you are one of the lucky ones hardly helps those of us with issues, just kind of rubs peoples noses in it. Nope, I said I "feel" like a beta tester, big difference. With the G1 it was a first of a kind, early adopters of new tech/OS often end up with fixes after launch.
OTAs/Factory images usually drop around 10 am PST. You still have 2 hours to go!
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Haven't had a single issue with my P6P. You you actually think you're a beta tester you should have had the first android phone the T-Mobile G1, we were actual beta testers. If you don't like the phone simply return it!
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Same, ironically. I've realized with every release there's those who have issues and those who don't. Luckily we know Google's gonna take care of it
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For clarification, what do you mean by "smells like curry"?
I agree at least with the stance that we should all just patiently await the update. It's coming and should bring good things to our toys. There's people in this world who would love to have this phone so those feeling impatient, just crack on with your day and no dount in an hour or two we'll all be flashing away (cue to the next lot of complaints?!)
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that everyone has a right to complain if something they paid for isn't functioning correctly!
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This is all that matters. Back in the days - before patches - products had to function at launch, since there was no way to fix anything. Once it was in the hands of your customer, there was no choice - either the product worked without issue and you got good press and recommendation, or your product was buggy and people stopped buying it.
Nowadays, companies just don't give a s*it - they release buggy products and there are customers that have the audacity to even support that kind of behavior. Instead of working together in order to get companies to fix their sh*t BEFORE launch, people divide themselves amongst "patience" or "you can't expect them to fix stuff in time" - aha. Well, we can. The nanosecond we buy a thousanddollar product. We are not talking about a 2 dollar china toy, we are talking about a state of the art, high-end flagship - that's simply supposed to work without issue. And if major issues arise, criticism is of paramount importance.
Many bugs we face today have been known since Android 12 has launched it's first beta - 18 May 2021 - that's roughly 7 months time for Google to fix stuff. They didn't.
And here we are not even talking about Pixel 6 specific bugs, simply Android ones.
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Same, ironically. I've realized with every release there's those who have issues and those who don't. Luckily we know Google's gonna take care of it
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I actually wonder how many problems there really are that are really bugs or just user error. When the Note 20 Ultra first came out there were quite a few people having issues with it here on XDA but what it boiled down to in the end was that they were transferring data from another phone and most weren't even a Samsung phone. Also if it were an Android 12 issue we would all have it not just a select few!