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[Q] Rom Porting from the i9100

Would it be super hard to port roms from the i9100? Doesnt it kinda have the same bands as the skyrocket ? What makes it different if its drastically different? JW?

I'm not a developer but this is how I understand it (I might be wrong though): It would be akin to trying to port a HTC or Motorola ROM to our phone, because the T989 has almost nothing in common with the i9000. They use different hardware, specifically the CPU and Modem/Radio on the SoC (Socket on a Chip), and therefore a different kernel which needs different drivers, etc. Skyrocket uses almost identical hardware, so a lot of the core files are the same.

yup! what Mitallust said

understood my friends thanks for the answer. I dont know if you guys have been in that forum but they have a rom Called sensation that looks badass. i wish someone could make something like it,

Socket on a chip made me lol.
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Mitallust said:
I'm not a developer but this is how I understand it (I might be wrong though): It would be akin to trying to port a HTC or Motorola ROM to our phone, because the T989 has almost nothing in common with the i9100. They use different hardware, specifically the CPU and Modem/Radio on the SoC (System on a Chip), and therefore a different kernel which needs different drivers, etc. Skyrocket uses almost identical hardware to the t989, so a lot of the core files are the same.
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bkaltec said:
Socket on a chip made me lol.
My corrections in red.
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Lol, total brain fart there. Thanks!

EVO Design 4G (Boost Mobile) - May 31st - MSM8655 w/ ICS

Looks like the HTC Evo Design 4G is launching (or re-launching, depending on how you look at it) on Boost Mobile, May 31st. This phone uses our chipset / processor - MSM8655 - and will launch with ICS / Sense 3.6.
I believe this is the first phone that uses the same chipset as ours that will have ICS. I'd imagine that an update for ours would also be in tow, as that means HTC has already finished a proper ICS / Sense 3.6 rom for our chipset (albeit different screen resolution, qHD). I'm also thinking that our devs (might?) could use this to build a 3.0 kernel for our phone.
Thoughts?
EDIT: Also of note, Sprint's VP of Product said the Sprint variety of the phone will get ICS in June. http://blogs.computerworld.com/20152/sprint_android_40_htc_evo_3d_htc_evo_design_4g
So that also bodes well for us (not taking into account VZW's suckiness in deploying updates)

dirkdigles said:
Looks like the HTC Evo Design 4G is launching (or re-launching, depending on how you look at it) on Boost Mobile, May 31st. This phone uses our chipset / processor - MSM8655 - and will launch with ICS / Sense 3.6.
I believe this is the first phone that uses the same chipset as ours that will have ICS. I'd imagine that an update for ours would also be in tow, as that means HTC has already finished a proper ICS / Sense 3.6 rom for our chipset (albeit different screen resolution, qHD). I'm also thinking that our devs (might?) could use this to build a 3.0 kernel for our phone.
Thoughts?
EDIT: Also of note, Sprint's VP of Product said the Sprint variety of the phone will get ICS in June. http://blogs.computerworld.com/20152/sprint_android_40_htc_evo_3d_htc_evo_design_4g
So that also bodes well for us (not taking into account VZW's suckiness in deploying updates)
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its possible *something* could come of their kernel source, but who knows
really we will ultimately need our own kernel source (not even our cousin inc s/dhd/desire s source) to build a functional 3.xx kernel with working radio....not that its impossible i guess, but what is actually likely
as for pulling the rom itself, it would have to be resized to scale properly (unless htc included hdpi images in all the apks (unlikely), and if we really wanted sense 3.6 i could have ported it from the sensation xl (didnt seem worth it, since we ll ultimately get our own version at some point, and sense 4 is so much better imo)
but the best take away is what you said: that its good to see htc has ics going on our chipset...which is always a positive

Should I get a Samsung Captivate Glide (i927)?

Sorry if this has already been asked, but how is the Samsung Glide? I have been using an HTC Status (ChaCha) for years, and just recently rooted. I liked the form factor and keyboard, but the internal memory was miserably limited, even after rooting and getting rid of bloatware, moving apps to SD, etc. The sound from the speaker was pretty poor too (I am aware that Beats audio can be installed to rooted phones ... have yet to try that) and putting the SD card slot underneath the battery is awkward. I have gotten a handle on Android's strengths and weaknesses (Gingerbread) so I will have a better idea of what to expect for my next phone. I definitely prefer a physical keyboard, and most Android based phones do not have one, or have poor specs. The Captivate Glide seems to measure up. I have read the specs GSM Arena gave on this phone,and it seems pretty good. It claims that it has Flash. Is this Adobe Flash, or something along the lines of HTC Status' Flash Lite? I definitely want Adobe Flash support, even if Adobe plans to end future support. I have an LG Neon lying around, a basic phone with a slide out keyboard ... it was okay, but for some weird reason only recognized one key input at a time, which made playing video games like Galaga miserable, even though the graphics were quite close to the arcade. I need to be able to press more than one key input at a time! I am also interested in Ice Cream Sandwich and Jelly Bean, neither of which would likely run very well on the Status, if they even can run. I have read of Glide users having a lot of problems with ICS. Should I wait for another phone with ICS preloaded, or just wait for a better Glide optimized ICS or Jelly Bean? Finally, how easy was it to root this phone? Rooting the Status was a real pain, as the HTC Dev software was getting me nowhere, by claiming the rom version is not supported ... even after the AT&T update. I bought the XTC Clip and couldn't get it to work, until a friend of mine got it working right (stick the flex cable in real tight in the SIM slot) and put on CWM and SuperUser. Somehow it did not unlock the carrier though. Anything like this for the Glide? How is the battery life?

Hello DearestLeader (that's an interesting choice of nickname given the origin of the devices being discussed!)
There are a few threads reviewing the device. I've played with one prior to giving it (SGH-I927R) to my girlfriend, so I won't be able to comment on all aspects of the phone.
If you're buying outright, another, more expensive (500$ outright) model that might be worth looking into is T-Mobile USA's recently announced Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G (SGH-T699). Same screen, worse camera (5MP versus 8MP for the 927), DC-HSPA 42 instead of HSPA 21, and a Snapdragon S4 Krait SoC instead of a Tegra 2. And it does support AT&T bands as well.
The ICS update for the Glide was just pulled from Kies, which indicates another build is on its way, likely fixing the issues reported here.
Rooting is easy: switch the phone to download mode, install CWM with Odin, install superuser zip of your choosing.
Unlocking is easy provided you're rooted and know how to use a hex editor.

If you're with Sprint, they released a new qwerty physical keyboard android called Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE. Comparable stats to our glide but it does have ICS preloaded.
I came from a Sony Ericsson k850i and couldn't live without buttons so I grabbed the Glide. It had a rough start not being as popular as other devices. We didn't get an official otterbox case or get official cyanogen mods but in the last few months, devs/testers/community really banded together and we have quite the support. We may not have ICS 100% but the hardworking devs and testers will take care of that. JB seems like a dream but who knows, someone just may surprise us.
Like Darkshado said, rooting & unlocking is fairly easy. There are many guides in the development sub-forum. Battery life was crap on gingerbread but improves quite a bit when on ICS. The only problem I've ever had was very minor GPS finding issues but I don't use it extensively so it was negligible.

With the ICS update, the Captivate Glide is a spectacular device. :good:
There were several major issues with Gingerbread (compass orientation incorrect, general lag and instability, poor bluetooth audio quality and battery life, etc) but they've all been resolved by the update and the community.
The screen, while not the highest res (800x480) is AMOLED and looks great. The CPU, while not quad-core, is still plenty fast, and it has 1gb RAM. Onboard storage is pitiful, but add a 32gb SD card and swap /mnt/sdcard with /mnt/sdcard/external_sd, and your primary storage can become up to 64gb.
It's not LTE, but it is still pretty quick. On Rogers in Canada I get ~5mbit/s down and 2mbit/sec up, which is totally respectable.
It's also a very cheap device now, since it is somewhat dated. Honestly, I can't recommend another keyboard phone more highly.
My $0.02.

bottom line, captivate glide is best phone available with physical keyboard.
even before ICS, i was highly please with the performance.
camera pics are GREAT
until they come out with a quad core phone with a physical keyboard, the only other phone i'd consider right now is a galaxy note.
i love this phone :good:

Thanks for the replies!
I will have to stick with AT&T, as I am on my mother's plan and not only she but several other people I call or text regularly are on AT&T too.
I did try out the phone at the AT&T store and it was nice. However, the sales rep said units sold after August 26th will not run Adobe Flash (the in store unit did not have it but was downloadable from Google Play and ran great). He did have people returning units for lack of Adobe Flash (I do not ask if these folks tried rooting or if they even bothered to download from Google Play). If Flash is good to go, without rooting (have to wait to see if there are no defects lor serious flaws like frequent unexpected reboots before rooting, as my warranty would be void) then I am getting one.
ericpeacock79 said:
bottom line, captivate glide is best phone available with physical keyboard.
even before ICS, i was highly please with the performance.
camera pics are GREAT
until they come out with a quad core phone with a physical keyboard, the only other phone i'd consider right now is a galaxy note.
i love this phone :good:
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Worse case you could probably sideload the Flash apk onto the phone.
Remember that root's not supposed to void your warranty, there were some XDA portal posts about this iirc. Either way its nothing that a DIY stock re-flash wouldn't solve.

I have to stick with AT&T for the same reason. I love this phone though, but I just can't get used to the physical keyboard. My girlfriend texts and uses my phone sometimes and she loves the physical keyboard though. Overall its a good phone and I would recommend it to anyone wanting an android with decent specs.
sent from my captivate glide running ICS (NardROM 0.4 Rooted)

I have the unlocked (and of course rooted) Samsung Galaxy Captivate Glide that I picked up used (but still in very good condition), and I can tell you that purchasing the phone (either old or new) is worth it, IMO. I like the fact that this phone have the hardware keyboard, decent organic LED screen, dual-core superscalar out-of-order Cortex A9 processor, and good 8MP camera. 4GB on-board storage didn't stop me from getting it. Loving this phone.
There is also few Android phone with the same hardward keyboard setup - try browsing through your favorite PC part internet store like Newegg as they sells both locked and unlocked smartphones nowaday too.
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You can also buy a Bluetooth keyboard that's originally made for ipods that I seen once, they work for Android too I'm sure if you really want or need a keyboard. I use my touchscreen more personally than my slider, except on chrome for some reason has a bug? And let's me use my screen keyboard maybe 20% of the time.. odd but lol
Samsung SGH-i927:
CWMR Touch v4.0.0.1
Keyboard fix
Superuser 3.2r3 ARM Optimized
Samsung SGH-i897:
A work in progress…
Stock & Rooted (need kernel and update)

hazard1nc said:
You can also buy a Bluetooth keyboard that's originally made for ipods that I seen once, they work for Android too I'm sure if you really want or need a keyboard. I use my touchscreen more personally than my slider, except on chrome for some reason has a bug? And let's me use my screen keyboard maybe 20% of the time.. odd but lol
Samsung SGH-i927:
CWMR Touch v4.0.0.1
Keyboard fix
Superuser 3.2r3 ARM Optimized
Samsung SGH-i897:
A work in progress…
Stock & Rooted (need kernel and update)
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Ya I experienced that bug on chrome a well. Kinda sucks that the soft keyboard would not display.kept having to pull out the hardware one for quick searches. That's why I switched to dolphin.
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I love this phone
I came from HTC g2 phone t-Mobile. I got this phone used off ebay in great condition. The company I work for is on att and I wanted a physical keyboard. Not too many to choose from. I use both on screen & physical keyboard equally. Rooting was a snap and am so happy with ics. Before ics I used dman's Inception v2 rom and loved it. Now I'm using nardrom 0.4 and hope dman comes out with a v3 rom. I'd recommend this phone to any one who likes the choice of a physical keyboard.

If you need a physical keyboard, GSM service, and want a powerful phone, there really aren't many other options. I say get it, I love mine.

I've been wondering about this myself. I love the Epic 4G, but I don't want to go back to Sprint, and I'm not too thrilled with Cricket (I don't love them nor hate them, they'll do for now). So I figure, get a Captivate Glide, unlock it, and go to Net10 or Straight Talk. The Captivate Glide appears to be a sort of unofficial successor to the Epic 4G, so it seems logical. Plus since its GSM I can take it with me whenever I travel outside the United States.

rogernizzLe said:
Like Darkshado said, rooting & unlocking is fairly easy. There are many guides in the development sub-forum. Battery life was crap on gingerbread but improves quite a bit when on ICS. The only problem I've ever had was very minor GPS finding issues but I don't use it extensively so it was negligible.
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Well I do use the GPS very extensively, so this is giving me pause in getting this phone.

EpicMikeNC said:
Well I do use the GPS very extensively, so this is giving me pause in getting this phone.
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Depends on the Rom you are using for GPS. I have found GB to work great with the GPS but ICS is a little lack luster as it connects but only after about 10 minutes. Please be patient as a lot of people have mixed results and I am curious with CM9 or possibly CM10 with GPS once those roms are out of alpha.
JB

dudejb said:
Depends on the Rom you are using for GPS. I have found GB to work great with the GPS but ICS is a little lack luster as it connects but only after about 10 minutes. Please be patient as a lot of people have mixed results and I am curious with CM9 or possibly CM10 with GPS once those roms are out of alpha.
JB
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Ah okay. See the most I was going to do to a Captivate Glide when I get it would be to root it. So basically if I root it I should go ahead and get a rom, preferably the one you mentioned (GB), until something better comes along. I have no problem waiting, and if GB is a good fix in the meantime, well problem solved.

GB is not a rom per say but I meant Ginger Bread which is what it has installed by default. There are many GB Roms available I recommend OSIMOOD but I am sure many will recommend others. I have never had an issue with GPS on any of the available Gingerbread Roms. Only people that had issues with GPS and GB are not in North America and then you will have to do some tweak for it to work. Some have got that working and some have not. I am sure that is where you saw many posts on GPS for the glide having issues. Just go back and see those posts as to where the people are from. ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) on the other hand has some issues where it can take a long time to connect but as I said before some people are working on this.
JB

I use gps all the time on my Glide. The most issues I've had is a few time I've had to turn gas off and back on 2 or 4 times in a row.
But that only happened a few times in 5 months.
This ia using both the stock GB and the stock ICS , and after rooting ICS.
Overall, i would give GPS on my Glide 9.5 out of 10
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dudejb said:
GB is not a rom per say but I meant Ginger Bread which is what it has installed by default. There are many GB Roms available I recommend OSIMOOD but I am sure many will recommend others. I have never had an issue with GPS on any of the available Gingerbread Roms. Only people that had issues with GPS and GB are not in North America and then you will have to do some tweak for it to work. Some have got that working and some have not. I am sure that is where you saw many posts on GPS for the glide having issues. Just go back and see those posts as to where the people are from. ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) on the other hand has some issues where it can take a long time to connect but as I said before some people are working on this.
JB
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I see. So when I get a Glide, I can either leave it alone (let it stay on GB and not update it to ICS), or root it to stock GB. If I do the latter then I can get roms made just for the GB.

[Q] Downside to 4G LTE?

Noob here who has decided on Samsung note 10.1 for my first tablet ... but which one? Looking for fastest performance and longevity. Does the added mobility of 4G degrade performance during WiFi operation? ... are there disadvantages other than related costs?
tx in advance!

I will advice the 4G version because it have the Snap800 like processor and have the 4G that is better and faster like 3G.
Finally, the Snap800 will have more support from dev then the 3G with the Exynos by Sammy

The trade-off will be reduced battery life most likely if traveling in weak LTE areas.

I'm leaning towards SD800, especially after what I saw in the picture
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Thank you for your replies. Looks like only the 4G version has the faster SnapDragon800. Ok that's settled.
Between32 and64, will the 64 remain faster as the memory folk
fills up or is it all the same in respect to performance?
Tx for answering my dumb questions!

g8rella said:
Thank you for your replies. Looks like only the 4G version has the faster SnapDragon800. Ok that's settled.
Between32 and64, will the 64 remain faster as the memory folk
fills up or is it all the same in respect to performance?
Tx for answering my dumb questions!
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I wouldn't say that the sd is faster just yet, there are no real benchmarks out there just yet for the new octo core 5420, based on the few cryptic leaks they seem to think that the new octo might be a tiny bit faster. Im not going to jump to any conclusions just yet, I would preffer the sd800 on my device if only for the cyanogenmod support

Will you be able to use this device as a phone? As in does it have a dialer that you can use with a regular SIM like the old one?

I'm getting the one with the Snapdragon processor in it.

Sammy promised that they will include HMP (Heterogeneous Multi Processing) in their 5xxx processors . Ie; they will make s4,note3 and note 10.1 to real octa core processors through a software upgrade (say kernel upgrade)...so guess , which will have higher performance , sd or exynos? ? ? ?
And also exynos version will have wolfson audio DAC in it , so exynos defeats sd in audio performance
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I would welcome an LTE model on Verizon except it will be limited to 16GB of storage and I just won't accept that. You need 32GB or higher internal storage for apps not medial content that is what the microsd is for.

Phone 2G
LuckyStrike88 said:
Will you be able to use this device as a phone? As in does it have a dialer that you can use with a regular SIM like the old one?
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I think I read that the phone version (which won't be sold by US cellular companies) is limited to 2G. I would love to hear differently.

RaptorMD said:
I would welcome an LTE model on Verizon except it will be limited to 16GB of storage and I just won't accept that. You need 32GB or higher internal storage for apps not medial content that is what the microsd is for.
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Whoa..that's completely unacceptable (I'm Verizon). Agree on 32 min. Where can I find spex on Verizon's version?
The spec sheet Mashari_F posted helps differentiate among variants but I'm still not clear.
I'll likely have to wait until later in Nov. for my own good ... see how users are feeling about SD VS. OCTA and see what Verizon puts out vs. Wifi.
Tx!

16GB should be fine, I have tons of apps and games installed on my 16GB old note 10
and still have 4-5GB left, if you are planning on installing huge games like nova 3 (I think it takes up 2.2GB) then you might want to consider the 32GB instead
if you root and have a nice size microsd handy, you really wont have to worry about it

So, if you want the best CPU, you have to buy the version with a cell radio in it? That's kinda dorky, since I can just tether to my phone. But I guess if I want the best CPU I gotta buy the 4G (that I won't use).

NaxIonz said:
So, if you want the best CPU, you have to buy the version with a cell radio in it? That's kinda dorky, since I can just tether to my phone. But I guess if I want the best CPU I gotta buy the 4G (that I won't use).
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Yes, sure.
Because Snap800 support LTE.
And Snap800 version will be better then Exynos
See the S4, the S600 have more support that Exynos Octa...

We dont know which is more powerful yet, this is the new octa core, not the old one
Wait for benchmarks from the new one to see

Joey22688 said:
We dont know which is more powerful yet, this is the new octa core, not the old one
Wait for benchmarks from the new one to see
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lol, benchmarks...
I won't see bench, because they don't have a lot of sense.
Snap800 will be supportated because devs know the architecture and they always have the source code...
Isn't the same for the Exynos...
It's like S3 for the Cyano
So, ATM, Snap > Exynos

Guich said:
lol, benchmarks...
I won't see bench, because they don't have a lot of sense.
Snap800 will be supportated because devs know the architecture and they always have the source code...
Isn't the same for the Exynos...
It's like S3 for the Cyano
So, ATM, Snap > Exynos
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Samsung released the kernel source for the Exynos version a few days ago (sammobile.com/2013/09/20/samsung-releases-kernel-source-for-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition). I'm not very familiar with all the lingo, so please enlighten me: Is this not (all) the source code that devs need to do their thing?

Can someone explain why someone buys an expensive note 10.1 only to install cyanogenmod and lose all the exclusive features? (Spen, multiwindow, ir blaster, and some other things)
Just buy a nexus 10 or wait for the new one if you are going to do that

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Samsung released the kernel source for the Exynos version a few days ago (sammobile.com/2013/09/20/samsung-releases-kernel-source-for-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition). I'm not very familiar with all the lingo, so please enlighten me: Is this not (all) the source code that devs need to do their thing?
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The big problem there isn't the source code, this was an older problem, but the structure of the partition and the core.
If a dev will build a kernel, the source are here.
But, trust me, snap have a source code more easy, it's quadcore, and we know all about this.
Joey22688 said:
Can someone explain why someone buys an expensive note 10.1 only to install cyanogenmod and lose all the exclusive features? (Spen, multiwindow, ir blaster, and some other things)
Just buy a nexus 10 or wait for the new one if you are going to do that
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No sense.
There isn't any sense...
In fact, i will buy it only for the feature of the tab, not for the Cyano rom
Maybe, someone, will work on a tweaked rom Touchwiz based.

Hardware difference between FLO and DEB

I have been searching for a teardown of DEB but cannot seem to find one. Does anyone know the differences in the hardware between FLO and DEB besides the obvious, one has a sim card and one doesnt.
Is the LTE capability integrated into the SoC on DEB but not FLO? If not, is the LTE chip located on the main board with the SoC or is it on the daughter board at the bottom of the tablet where the sim-card plugs in? Any help is appreciated.

skrypj said:
I have been searching for a teardown of DEB but cannot seem to find one. Does anyone know the differences in the hardware between FLO and DEB besides the obvious, one has a sim card and one doesnt.
Is the LTE capability integrated into the SoC on DEB but not FLO? If not, is the LTE chip located on the main board with the SoC or is it on the daughter board at the bottom of the tablet where the sim-card plugs in? Any help is appreciated.
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It's my understanding that Deb is relatively the same as Flo with the exception of data and full GPS capabilities. Many have flashed Flo ROM's on Deb devices and they will work but will not have data and full GPS capabilities, which defeats the purpose of having a Deb. An actual Deb teardown I have not done though.
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I don't remember seeing it anywhere, but can I flash Deb roms on my flo? Theoretically, it should be fully functional (the flo, that is...), but I haven't had the guts to try as yet.

aarsyl said:
I don't remember seeing it anywhere, but can I flash Deb roms on my flo? Theoretically, it should be fully functional (the flo, that is...), but I haven't had the guts to try as yet.
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I'm only stating what I've heard people doing. Trying is at your own risk.
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I don't actually care to try...I was just curious. Curiosity isn't enough of a reason for me to run that risk.

I've flashed deb roms onto my flo in the course of doing testing: yes it will flash and boot fine.
I forget if it would work without bugs (testing mainly consisted of making sure it boots and nothing major is broken, like wifi, screen, or touch)
Obviously you wont magically get cellular support, it'll be like how it already is: the rom will simply see a radio that cannot connect/sense any type of network.
The biggest hardware difference is obviously the lack of the modem, it's an external module like on all S600 devices.
Software wise there isnt that much major differences:
They use the same bootloader
They use the same kernels
At launch they had the same basebands (flo's never gets updated though info on wiki)
The actual drivers and roms are not identical though, at the very least they're built in both 'deb' and 'flo' configurations, at the very least they have different names inside the drivers

skrypj said:
I have been searching for a teardown of DEB but cannot seem to find one. Does anyone know the differences in the hardware between FLO and DEB besides the obvious, one has a sim card and one doesnt.
Is the LTE capability integrated into the SoC on DEB but not FLO? If not, is the LTE chip located on the main board with the SoC or is it on the daughter board at the bottom of the tablet where the sim-card plugs in? Any help is appreciated.
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My experience is that some ROMs will work between the "Deb" and "Flo" models but others won't. Some are even advertised as being bisexual. :silly:
It's entirely possible for the hardware on both models to be exactly the same, with some deeply rooted firmware switch to activate LTE. I'd think from a manufacturing and inventory management point of view, it'd be cheaper to build one version due to less tooling and inventory holding costs.

douger1957 said:
I'd think from a manufacturing and inventory management point of view, it'd be cheaper to build one version due to less tooling and inventory holding costs.
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Regardless of if the modem is in flo or not, there's no sim card tray on flos.
They could hypothetically use deb boards that otherwise work 100%, except somehow recieved a faulty modem chip,
but without a sim tray you wouldnt be able to do much with just that.
Many old tegra 2 based tablets had a PCI-E mini slot (PCI-E mini can do either PCI-E and/or usb, only the latter was actually available and that was what was used) where the modem went, you could likely solder in a slot on the wifi model and get the same modem elsewhere, but you'd need to also get a sim slot and tray to actually make it useful.