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Dusting off iPhone-Developers.com

Recently we've been the target (via PM and email) of a coordinated effort by some users to get XDA to add an iPhone forum. This intensified a bit recently with the "jailbreaking is legal" news that came out a few weeks ago. We also recently “lost” a behind-the-scenes guy at XDA to the iPhone (someone who had donated countless hours to helping with site development and bug fixes).
Despite his pleading, some of the mods and I decided earlier this month that xda-developers is NOT the place for detailed iPhone discussion. There's just too much going on here. XDA is still digesting the move to add non-HTC WinMo/Android devices. And the site is just too darn big already!
With all that said: many of you know that we also own the iPhone-Developers.com domain. It was purchased years ago—mostly as a joke. Now, with the maturation of the iPhone community (in particular, the independent developer and jailbreak community) we are going to dust it off and launch an XDA sister site. The goal is to try to replicate the XDA feel while keeping XDA itself free of iPhone-related clutter. We see it as a win/win for everyone (iPhone lovers and haters alike). The aim of the site is to demystify jailbreaking and to make iPhone development more mainstream. Millions of people have benefited from the development work that has taken place at XDA over the last decade, and we want to bring these same benefits to iPhone owners.
If you are excited by this move, please keep your expectations in check: The site will be totally separate from XDA (separate mods, servers, everything) and will probably be somewhat "Wild West" to start out (like XDA in the early years). We have assigned a new admin—the former XDA tech volunteer referenced above. His user name is Arbre, and he also is doing all the tech development for the site. He hopes to have it launched (at least in beta form) in September.
We are looking for a few people to help get things started in the new forums. If you’ve got any jailbreak/development experience on the iPhone and want to help out just PM Arbre and he’ll get in touch with you when we’re closer to a beta launch.

PM'd him already

Is there anyway to make a poll to see if anyone else is interested to the success of iphone-developers.com?
I already feel as though making another forum for iphone users is redundant since there is already tons of other ones light-years ahead on the web.
Think about how many successful "xda" look-a-likes are out there **Coughs... htc-pedia** <<-- NotMuch.
I just don't think it will be worth the effort, to be honest. Is there another thread where others are discussing this?

lemonspeakers said:
Is there another thread where others are discussing this?
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Looks like nobody cares.

lemonspeakers said:
Is there anyway to make a poll to see if anyone else is interested to the success of iphone-developers.com?
I already feel as though making another forum for iphone users is redundant since there is already tons of other ones light-years ahead on the web.
Think about how many successful "xda" look-a-likes are out there **Coughs... htc-pedia** <<-- NotMuch.
I just don't think it will be worth the effort, to be honest. Is there another thread where others are discussing this?
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Maybe you're right. But the launch of the site has been totally funded by a donor. We hope we create a somewhat unique vibe over there. But if not, then it hasn't hurt anyone.

lemonspeakers said:
Is there anyway to make a poll to see if anyone else is interested to the success of iphone-developers.com?
I already feel as though making another forum for iphone users is redundant since there is already tons of other ones light-years ahead on the web.
Think about how many successful "xda" look-a-likes are out there **Coughs... htc-pedia** <<-- NotMuch.
I just don't think it will be worth the effort, to be honest. Is there another thread where others are discussing this?
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As the one who is actually building and running iphone-developers, I can tell you that for me it is definitely worth the effort. To even have the chance at creating something like xda for the iphone is incredibly exciting.
The only reason I got svetius and the site owners to consider this project in the first place was because of the number of requests we've gotten to add iphone forums -- it turns out a lot of xda users have iphones, and many have even switched altogether. Creating a new site for these people makes a lot of sense (to me at least).
Plus, as svetius said, there is really nothing to lose by trying. I'm the one bearing all of the work, and if you're not interested in apple products then xda will be the exact same as usual
-- Arbre

I'm just wondering if you are going to bridge the two sites together, so that registered on one is registered on the other etc.

MordyT said:
I'm just wondering if you are going to bride the two sites together, so that registered on one is registered on the other etc.
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I doubt it...he said they will be completely separate, including separate servers etc...
I'm not an iphone person at all, but sounds like it will be very successful, with the xda name behind it!

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I'm just wondering if you are going to bride the two sites together, so that registered on one is registered on the other etc.
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That is a great question. I hope that this is possible. This way it also retains our reputation instead of starting from scratch while claiming that you are so and so.

Excelent news!!!!
I'm slowly porting my apps (adding some more bling) to the iPhone with flash CS5, only made a beta of flashlight so far, but was hopping for the greatness of a XDA forum-like to "bind" all scatered users out there, in a way that only XDA can.
Cant wait for it...

lemonspeakers said:
Is there anyway to make a poll to see if anyone else is interested to the success of iphone-developers.com?
I already feel as though making another forum for iphone users is redundant since there is already tons of other ones light-years ahead on the web.
Think about how many successful "xda" look-a-likes are out there **Coughs... htc-pedia** <<-- NotMuch.
I just don't think it will be worth the effort, to be honest. Is there another thread where others are discussing this?
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There are of course many other iPhone sites around as indeed there are for WM / Android etc. Included in that there is also a range of good and poor quality. However, we often talk about our "Community" here at xda-devs and this combined with good quality content is what defines a good forum site. Creating, the right atmosphere combined with quality content is what will also make or break a new iPhone site. It really doesn't matter about the volume of other sites if you can create a better feel in a new site people will move.
We should also not forget that there has been a 200% rise in the smartphone market over the past year and 93% of that has come from the iPhone. Consequently there is a vast and ever increasing number of potential members who have not established a loyalty to already existing sites.
Good luck to Arbre in getting this going, though I'm sure he doesn't need it
Mike

I'm very interested as I have recently seen the light and ditched WinMo on my Tilt 2 for the iPhone 4

lemonspeakers said:
That is a great question. I hope that this is possible. This way it also retains our reputation instead of starting from scratch while claiming that you are so and so.
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We're trying to link the user databases of XDA and iPhone-Developers so that if you want, you can transfer your XDA account.

lemonspeakers said:
That is a great question. I hope that this is possible. This way it also retains our reputation instead of starting from scratch while claiming that you are so and so.
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We're trying to link the user databases of XDA and iPhone-Developers so that if you want, you can transfer your XDA account.
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It is defiantly possible, and several sites exist today that show off that ability. I am glad you are looking into the option, as that will boost the amount of people who are active there.

Looking forward to seeing this go live! Hopefully it will encompass the same community feel that XDA has nurtured and grown
Plus if XDA members who are interested in the iPhone also register with the IPD forum, we will bump into members with whom we may already be acquainted So we will have a ready made 'starting' community!

This actually sounds like a great idea, imagine the development that will come out of this

refthemc said:
This actually sounds like a great idea, imagine the development that will come out of this
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That's kinda the idea

soon we will have android on the iphone 4 cuz of xda members
and yes i know android is there for iphone 3g

What a great news
Excelent news!!!!
Since i bought my iphone, i no longer visit xda developers but now everything will be diferent.
Can´t wait

This is GREAT news!

List of some cool things to do on your Galaxy Nexus

Many people often ask what are some cool things you can do on (blank) phone.
And after reading several different articles, I found they all sucked, so I wrote my own.
have a read and let me know what you think. So here's the
List of some cool things to do on the Galaxy Nexus.
If you have any suggestions, I may add it to the list.

paOol said:
Many people often ask what are some cool things you can do on (blank) phone.
And after reading several different articles, I found they all sucked, so I wrote my own.
have a read and let me know what you think. So here's the
List of some cool things to do on the Galaxy Nexus.
If you have any suggestions, I may add it to the list.
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Facebook hijack: not cool
Kicking people off wireless: not cool
Blocking ads: not cool, help the sites you like to visit by giving them revenue so they can put food on the table and continue to create content you apparently like.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

[hfm] said:
Facebook hijack: not cool
Kicking people off wireless: not cool
Blocking ads: not cool, help the sites you like to visit by giving them revenue so they can put food on the table and continue to create content you apparently like.
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do other people feel this way also?

paOol said:
do other people feel this way also?
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Yes.
Why would it be cool to hijack someone's Facebook account, which belongs to them and contains all their personal information, conversations, and more? What right does anyone have to dig into a person's private things? It's also illegal in at least some places.
Why would kicking people off wifi be cool? There might be a few legitimate reasons, but for the most part it's only if you want to play tricks on your friends or be a juvenile douchebag to strangers.
Why would denying someone their revenue for their hard work be cool? Decent sites show ads that are relevant to the site and things you are probably interested in. I don't mind that. Apps might show ads I'm not interested in, but I can usually pay for an ad-free version if I want. Either way, each party gets something out of it. It's a trade. Life isn't free (for you nor the creator of whatever you're using).
Still confused?

facebook... not cool
kick off of wifi i dont get. unless its your wifi? then just protect it.
block adds I'm in for. i don't wanna see them, so i don't have to.

+1 for blocking ads
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phazerorg said:
Yes.
Why would it be cool to hijack someone's Facebook account, which belongs to them and contains all their personal information, conversations, and more? What right does anyone have to dig into a person's private things? It's also illegal in at least some places.
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ah, I understand where you are coming from, but my intent was not to have people stealing private information. I'd like it if everyone became more conscious of their privacy and actually used the HTTPS setting. And what better way than to expose them to the truth that they're not as safe as they think.

To hell with ads I say

[hfm] said:
Facebook hijack: not cool
Kicking people off wireless: not cool
Blocking ads: not cool, help the sites you like to visit by giving them revenue so they can put food on the table and continue to create content you apparently like.
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The ability to do those things is pretty cool.

paOol said:
ah, I understand where you are coming from, but my intent was not to have people stealing private information. I'd like it if everyone became more conscious of their privacy and actually used the HTTPS setting. And what better way than to expose them to the truth that they're not as safe as they think.
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I think the idea was that it's not cool to hack someone's account. Being more security concious is definitely cool.
Also, I should clarify that I'm not necessarily against ad blocking (I do it for general web browsing), but when it's something you actually use that has value to you (such as XDA for me), which the creator provides to you for free in exchange for seeing some reasonable ads, I don't think it's cool to deny them the small bit of support they have asked for in return.

Most of these are actually pretty cool. As far as a Facebook hijack I'm not a fan but props to the OP for letting me know how unsecured my and my girlfriends Facebook accounts are. I just showed her how I was easily able to log into Facebook as her. We both just secured our Facebook!

phazerorg said:
I think the idea was that it's not cool to hack someone's account. Being more security concious is definitely cool.
Also, I should clarify that I'm not necessarily against ad blocking (I do it for general web browsing), but when it's something you actually use that has value to you (such as XDA for me), which the creator provides to you for free in exchange for seeing some reasonable ads, I don't think it's cool to deny them the small bit of support they have asked for in return.
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agreed.
10 char.

Sounds like there should be a AdFree (Ad Blocker) with a feature that lets you unblock certain websites or apps. Whereas, AdFree does it universally.

paOol said:
ah, I understand where you are coming from, but my intent was not to have people stealing private information. I'd like it if everyone became more conscious of their privacy and actually used the HTTPS setting. And what better way than to expose them to the truth that they're not as safe as they think.
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That's a noble reason.
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Those are some neat things. May not be for everyone, but cool nontheless.

Facebook hijacking and kicking someone off WiFi is not cool. However, I don't see a problem with ad blocking. It's no different than fast-forwarding through commericials on a TV show that you recorded on a DVR. I never click on ads anyway. If that makes me an immoral person, so be it.

Forget all the cry babies... it's all good. Thanks!

kbubp said:
The ability to do those things is pretty cool.
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This.
What you do with it is up to you. The fact that you can do these things is pretty impressive. Can you do most of this with any other android device? Sure. But lots of them require root, something that's dead simple to do with the GN.

vapotrini said:
Forget all the cry babies... it's all good. Thanks!
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thank you, too.

Great write up. Thanks for taking the time! Answered a lot of questions I had and exposed me to some new capabilities of this phone. Knowledge is power; it's up to us to decide how to use it.
Thanks for the heads up about Facebook and public Wifi networks. I had no idea.

[Game support] Ingress Thread....

I think it's time to make this thread as there are millions of people on the game that is still in beta.
The game is Ingress and it's an augmented reality game where two factions fight it out for all man kind. Taking control of portals and working with your faction to create mind fields is the goal, the Enlightened want to conform to a collective in mind control and the Resistance wants to rid the collective mind control for humanity.
The story can be found on line at: www.ingress.com but this thread is designed to assist on the basics, it would be unfair to favor one side over another as tactics of the game are only shared with the respective factions.
Do Not post personal information here, this game puts you in a real life proximity of other players and with that in mind it is easy for something to get personal in real life even though it was not intended.
This is a place to better understand the game itself and to collaborate for the community to learn everything involved.
I do not have any control over beta codes nor does anyone else in our community, don't ask and do not try to share your account or you will be banned, they do know everything you do in the game. Do not try to sell codes given to you by Ingress as they have been known to give out batch codes that are intended to be shared not profited from.
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Sounds like fun too bad I don't have an invite.
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J-ROCK said:
Sounds like fun too bad I don't have an invite.
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To get an invite you need to be creative, you go to your Google+ account and friend Ingress then create an image or anything supporting ingress in it and post it using these shouts.
@ingress
@ingressinvite
@inhressenlightened
@ingressresistance
Make sure it's publicly viewable so others can add comments to it and the better the idea the better your chances are, the ingress site email link isn't being watched but if you watch ingress on G+ you will see they release codes in batches try to time it in those posting times.
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Great idea for a thread. I'm playing the game and I just love it. I'm sure I miss a lot of options though.
At least now I know how many android phones are in my neighborhood

chastity said:
Great idea for a thread. I'm playing the game and I just love it. I'm sure I miss a lot of options though.
At least now I know how many android phones are in my neighborhood
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There are a few really good features on the desktop as well, they keep adding stuff in though. The one I thought was cool was on the desktop login when your on the map if you go over to the right and you see the +/- to zoom in there's a little yellow image of a person if you go over it with the mouse it will lean over to the left. Drag and drop that little yellow guy and it will give you street view of the location your looking at.

Finally got my invite
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The game rules!!

The Archangel said:
The game rules!!
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I know right? Im shocked people aren't using the thread.
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Captured my first portal riding the van home from work lol
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how long does it take to get a invite from the site itself...put one in this morning...

shrty4luv said:
how long does it take to get a invite from the site itself...put one in this morning...
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If you sent in your email then they haven't even looked at those from the beginning but the best way is G+ and stay on them. I suggest getting an aftermarket battery (I bought a 4500 mAh battery online) your gonna need it.
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I think this is a great thread. The OP was well written so as not to let this thread turn into a sided one, but rather general info for all for when it comes out of beta. I'll be watching this one for sure. I've been playing for a bit now as well.

There's also a Google community (G plus) called decode ingress that discusses ingress and daily pass codes that can be used to level up.
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tembone said:
There's also a Google community (G plus) called decode ingress that discusses ingress and daily pass codes that can be used to level up.
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The codes are only good for a few seconds now, there's a plug-in you can download for chrome desktop that notifies you the second a code releases but it depends on how many people use it so you have to be quick about it. Go to chrome app store and search for the Ingress plugins, there's 2 of them but remember to go in settings and choose for notifications to be displayed in the top right corner. If you don't it will cover the area you have to type in the code.
There are a few places you can get info for the game, I just figured I would give the section a base location for XDA GS3 members to ask questiins and get answers that you don't have to go all over to find simple facts.
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Orical said:
The codes are only good for a few seconds now, there's a plug-in you can download for chrome desktop that notifies you the second a code releases but it depends on how many people use it so you have to be quick about it. Go to chrome app store and search for the Ingress plugins, there's 2 of them but remember to go in settings and choose for notifications to be displayed in the top right corner. If you don't it will cover the area you have to type in the code.
There are a few places you can get info for the game, I just figured I would give the section a base location for XDA GS3 members to ask questiins and get answers that you don't have to go all over to find simple facts.
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I can never get those dam codes to work!

The Archangel said:
I can never get those dam codes to work!
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Now you know why, 2 million people are trying to punch them in before everyone else.
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Orical said:
Now you know why, 2 million people are trying to punch them in before everyone else.
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I'm starting not to care about the codes

It took me about three weeks to get mine
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The Archangel said:
I'm starting not to care about the codes
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They were cool in the beginning because you got what you needed instead of hoping the farmed portals kick you back something. Now it's like pulling teeth to get anything from the portals and unless your one of those that enjoys decrypting code your kinda outta luck. Once in a while a code works but now that everyone gets the auto responses you'll be lucky to get a chance ti put ut in.
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I've noticed more people reporting that they are having a hard time getting portal keys so I'm gonna post this trick I learned a few weeks back.
You go to a portal you already have a key to and need another for that portal, make sure your just out of range to hack the target and drop the key you have for that portal. Give it at least one minute for the server to register that you dropped the key then back out of ingress, turn on ingress again and you should see the portal and the key close together , now make sure the target circle only boarders the portal and NOT the key you dropped and hack the portal you should get a key. Once you get it retreave the key you dropped. Now you have a second key to give to someone else.
I've been able to get up to 5 keys on the same portal it doesn't always cough up a key the first time you try it but it will by the second attempt because you don't have one in your items. Good hunting.
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Safety on XDA

A couple of keyboard mods I've downloaded from XDA have had a stupid amount of unnecessary permissions, they were deleted with haste.
There will be bad people on here, that's life, so who too trust?
Is a 'Recognized Contributor' XDAs seal of approval?
ROM Devs could be putting anything in their work, I can't read code so don't know, but others do, so I tend to stick with devs that openly publish their work (wasn't that the idea) & appear to have the respect of others in the community.
I hope this will keep me safe-ish.
If anyone has any advice about safety on XDA I'd like to hear what you think.
Sent from my Xperia S using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

Usually you can trust almost anyone on XDA. Most malicious people will have been banned or had their posts deleted. Any titled member (RCs, RTs, RDs, mods, admins etc.) can certainly be trusted and so can the vast majority of people who share any sort of work on here.
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This is what I do to be safe on xda, I look at the OP of the mod/rom/etc's other threads first to see what he/she had done in the past and if all is good, then I use away. If the OP doesn't have any history on here I usually wait a bit for others to give feedback and if all is good, then I use away.

Nigeldg said:
Usually you can trust almost anyone on XDA. Most malicious people will have been banned or had their posts deleted. Any titled member (RCs, RTs, RDs, mods, admins etc.) can certainly be trusted and so can the vast majority of people who share any sort of work on here.
Sent from my Nexus 4
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Its reassuring to know *Recognized* is a valid stamp of approval.
Ty
'Murica said:
This is what I do to be safe on xda, I look at the OP of the mod/rom/etc's other threads first to see what he/she had done in the past and if all is good, then I use away. If the OP doesn't have any history on here I usually wait a bit for others to give feedback and if all is good, then I use away.
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Good advice, I've checked duration of membership & number of thx, but never other thread history.
Ty
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Memethecat said:
A couple of keyboard mods I've downloaded from XDA have had a stupid amount of unnecessary permissions, they were deleted with haste.
There will be bad people on here, that's life, so who too trust?
Is a 'Recognized Contributor' XDAs seal of approval?
ROM Devs could be putting anything in their work, I can't read code so don't know, but others do, so I tend to stick with devs that openly publish their work (wasn't that the idea) & appear to have the respect of others in the community.
I hope this will keep me safe-ish.
If anyone has any advice about safety on XDA I'd like to hear what you think.
Sent from my Xperia S using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Trust is a difficult question - generally, people around here are reasonably honest. For someone to get a Recognised title, they have been around for a while, are helpful, consistent, and post generally good work which meets criteria in terms of how it is posted etc.
There's no guarantees though - someone could have "hacked" a user's account, if they used a poor password, or used that password elsewhere. While you are unlikely to hit difficulties, always be vigilant - just use your nose and steer clear if something doesn't seem right.
For example, user with 3 posts, who registered last week, posting an APK for "their" keyboard that's available on the Play Store for free... That's one to be cautious of - it may well be legitimate, and most likely is, but it just isn't worth the risk when you could get the "proper" version with feedback etc from the store, or this untested, unknown, APK from the website.

pulser_g2 said:
Trust is a difficult question - generally, people around here are reasonably honest. For someone to get a Recognised title, they have been around for a while, are helpful, consistent, and post generally good work which meets criteria in terms of how it is posted etc.
There's no guarantees though - someone could have "hacked" a user's account, if they used a poor password, or used that password elsewhere. While you are unlikely to hit difficulties, always be vigilant - just use your nose and steer clear if something doesn't seem right.
For example, user with 3 posts, who registered last week, posting an APK for "their" keyboard that's available on the Play Store for free... That's one to be cautious of - it may well be legitimate, and most likely is, but it just isn't worth the risk when you could get the "proper" version with feedback etc from the store, or this untested, unknown, APK from the website.
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Master Signature you got there
You Must Be a Elite Programmer

pulser_g2 said:
Trust is a difficult question - generally, people around here are reasonably honest. For someone to get a Recognised title, they have been around for a while, are helpful, consistent, and post generally good work which meets criteria in terms of how it is posted etc.
There's no guarantees though - someone could have "hacked" a user's account, if they used a poor password, or used that password elsewhere. While you are unlikely to hit difficulties, always be vigilant - just use your nose and steer clear if something doesn't seem right.
For example, user with 3 posts, who registered last week, posting an APK for "their" keyboard that's available on the Play Store for free... That's one to be cautious of - it may well be legitimate, and most likely is, but it just isn't worth the risk when you could get the "proper" version with feedback etc from the store, or this untested, unknown, APK from the website.
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That's fair enough, common sense takes gold again )
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[Q] What kind of an app is this? Virus? Spyware? or Ticking Timebomb?

To everyone, i am not too sure where should i put this topic on... and with respect to the forum mods, you can move this thread to the correct place. i hope i am right. anyway here i go.
Can someone tell me what kind of an app is this? I work in a mobile shop, and i know rooting and stuff, but i don't know this app, or what is does. My boss got this app somewhere and instructs me and my colleague to install in on every single phone that is sold. and he told us not to install it on our own phones, but only customers phones. I anyway ignored his words, and installed this app into my own phone.
Installing this application into my phone so far has no issues, but it a background application. when you install it, first you see its icon in the app drawer named "Android Service" with a green android as its icon. But when you open it, it says the application isn't installed and the application disappears from the app drawer. But go to settings, apps, and it is in the downloaded column, as well as running apps. Its like a hidden app. And my concern is, what it actually does? is it a spy app? or is it a virus? a ticking timebomb app that changes your phone settings including the password so that you cannot access your own phone? i do not want to be doing cheeky or evil stuff on phones that i sell, because people who buys it buys them based on trust and respect.
I hope anyone here, someone here can help me and tell me what kind of an app is this. Google doesn't help either. neither my boss... he won't say what app is this. install or quit, that is his policy.
Thanks for helping everybody, and attached will be the apk for the app.

Well, I downloaded the apk and opened it without installing, and the permissions look quite fishy. Based on the permissions, it could very well be giving away someone's contact details to a third party. How does he wasn't you to install it? Open up someone's phone and start playing around with it? Who'd let you do that to their phone? Definitely something to be weary about. If nothing comes up from here, I'd say you should run it by the authorities (of course not with the emergency no., but there's normally a non-emergency no. to call.

https://anubis.iseclab.org/?action=result&task_id=194d304a8f91d2e342161f5db6c2ed751
Scanned the apk with this site, not sure where it says whether it's malware or not (although even if it didn't detect malware, it might still be dangerous), but it had this screenshot. Maybe it didn't work because of the version of your phone. Definitely strange. Do you know your boss as an honest person? (Sorry if that question is too personal, you don't need to answer)

I installed it while on airplane mode, and the same thing happened that you described. Could be the site made a screenshot mockup based on the code... I have no idea what it is. Maybe some dev can shed some light. But I think this is in the wrong section.

Whatever the app is, pre-installing software without the customer's knowledge or consent is illegal.
Go to the police.
At best this is fraud, at worst it is data theft or possibly even organised crime. By installing the app, even on your employer's orders, you are complicit in the offense. If it is fraud or data theft, it could very well land you in prison.
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ShadowLea said:
Whatever the app is, pre-installing software without the custoner's knowledge or consent is illegal.
Go to the police.
At best this is fraud, at worst it is data theft or possibly even organised crime. By installing the app, even on your employer's orders, you are complicit in the offense. If it is fraud or data theft, it could very well land you in prison.
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True. Despite the fact that it's not fair for the customers, but if a customer notices there's a downloaded app that he didn't download, it's quite likely to come back to your company.

Truthfully here in the states all the phone companies put things on customers phones prior to them buying it. My gf called verizon one day and they told her what apps she installed the previous day. I see no difference than what someone is doing here. This seems like a rogue app and I would seriously consider going to the authorities
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ShadowLea said:
Whatever the app is, pre-installing software without the customer's knowledge or consent is illegal.
Go to the police.
At best this is fraud, at worst it is data theft or possibly even organised crime. By installing the app, even on your employer's orders, you are complicit in the offense. If it is fraud or data theft, it could very well land you in prison.
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Depends on the law. It may or may not be legal. Some countries don't even have an IT law...Whereas some have draconian ones ...
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True. Despite the fact that it's not fair for the customers, but if a customer notices there's a downloaded app that he didn't download, it's quite likely to come back to your company.
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ShapesBlue said:
Truthfully here in the states all the phone companies put things on customers phones prior to them buying it. My gf called verizon one day and they told her what apps she installed the previous day. I see no difference than what someone is doing here. This seems like a rogue app and I would seriously consider going to the authorities
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It's a rogue app alright
The information from phone is redirected to some turkish hacker website.
Don't even install that **** on an airplane mode.
Warning:
NEVER INSTALL DODGY APPS ON A LIVE DEVICE. We have emulators for that.

karandpr said:
Depends on the law. It may or may not be legal. Some countries don't even have an IT law...Whereas some have draconian ones ...
It's a rogue app alright
The information from phone is redirected to some turkish hacker website.
Don't even install that **** on an airplane mode.
Warning:
NEVER INSTALL DODGY APPS ON A LIVE DEVICE. We have emulators for that.
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I had a feeling man. I knew something wasn't right when I seen the post
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andrewsena said:
Installing this application into my phone so far has no issues, but it a background application. when you install it, first you see its icon in the app drawer named "Android Service" with a green android as its icon. But when you open it, it says the application isn't installed and the application disappears from the app drawer. But go to settings, apps, and it is in the downloaded column, as well as running apps. Its like a hidden app. And my concern is, what it actually does? is it a spy app? or is it a virus? a ticking timebomb app
Thanks for helping everybody, and attached will be the apk for the app.
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Be cautious how you advertise finding this out. If the guy who made this or spread it is on XDA, you may find yourself in a spot. If it is organized, you may be whistle blowing some nasty people. Just be careful about that.

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Be cautious how you advertise finding this out. If the guy who made this or spread it is on XDA, you may find yourself in a spot. If it is organized, you may be whistle blowing some nasty people. Just be careful about that.
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Please don't quote op
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karandpr said:
Depends on the law. It may or may not be legal. Some countries don't even have an IT law...Whereas some have draconian ones ...
It's a rogue app alright
The information from phone is redirected to some turkish hacker website.
Don't even install that **** on an airplane mode.
Warning:
NEVER INSTALL DODGY APPS ON A LIVE DEVICE. We have emulators for that.
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Looking at the permissions, it seems like it's more for spam. And why do you think Turkish?

tzzeri said:
I installed it while on airplane mode, and the same thing happened that you described.
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Wow that's just a really really bad idea. Please tell me you're in the process of wiping your phone. Even Bluestacks is a better option.

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Looking at the permissions, it seems like it's more for spam. And why do you think Turkish?
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Well, it's more of bot net + grab.
Basically the phones can become a part of bots in future.
MAC Ids ,IMEI and other important information is being recorded.
These can be used for masking or cloning purposes.
How do I know ?
Well, because the dudes where data is going claim to be turkish. The method used is very very crude.
There is a chance that the original website was just a data miner. and it was hacked by those hackers.
Annnnd ,I don't want to give out any other information about them. Not really planning to get myself witch hunted. My XDA profile is public.
Right now ,that app is malicious and the overtones are political. Stay away as far as you can.

Don't confront your boss about this. If he's knowingly involved you'll put yourself and everyone you know (including us) in danger, and if he's just a naive fool that just makes it worse.
Make an offline copy of this thread, all the data and put it on a flashdrive along with the apk.
Take that to the police. They can check if the person involved shows up as flagged in any (cyber)crime database and handle it from here. They'll also inform you of the best course pf action in remaining anonymous, which may involve the deletion of this thread. (which, quite frankly, is a good idea if this does turn out to be serious.)
And yes, you'll likely loose your job. So will your employer. But at least you won't go down with them as an accomplice.
ShapesBlue said:
Truthfully here in the states all the phone companies put things on customers phones prior to them buying it. My gf called verizon one day and they told her what apps she installed the previous day. I see no difference than what someone is doing here. This seems like a rogue app and I would seriously consider going to the authorities
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The difference is that service providers in the USA are legally allowed to put monitoring apps on their customers phones. In the interest of 'Customer Protection and Service', which is really a lovely euphemism for 'because the NSA told them to'.
Which, frankly, not a single non-US citizen is shocked by.
Here in the EU they're not even allowed to see what app is using your data.
As for what app were downloaded, ISP's dont need spyware for that. Service providers have access to a detailed log of what your IP adress is doing, down to which sites you visited, stuff you downloaded (legally and illegally) and what apps you used to access those sites. There used to be a way to call up that log yourself back around the turn of the millenium, but it's long since been blocked to customers.
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Thank you everybody for help. What I and my colleague are doing now is not installing the app into customers phones, but when asked by our boss, we just say yes. it is a very fishy app i know, and yes it is illegal here, so yeah, i might be losing my job, but at least i'm not doing anything hanky panky. and the reason why i need to know what app this actually is, and what it actually does is so that i can let the big owner know about it, with proof. he's a hard to listen person unless you have proof and facts and you actually know what it is. he sounds like a fool right? but yup, he is.... thanks again guys.

tzzeri said:
https://anubis.iseclab.org/?action=result&task_id=194d304a8f91d2e342161f5db6c2ed751
Scanned the apk with this site, not sure where it says whether it's malware or not (although even if it didn't detect malware, it might still be dangerous), but it had this screenshot. Maybe it didn't work because of the version of your phone. Definitely strange. Do you know your boss as an honest person? (Sorry if that question is too personal, you don't need to answer)
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thanks so much for help... although i don't know how to read or understand what the website is saying. yup, no customer will allow that, but my boss wants it to be done when a customer buys a phone here, when you are helping them downloading games or songs... my big boss, the owner is honest guy, but my boss i dont know man....

andrewsena said:
thanks so much for help... although i don't know how to read or understand what the website is saying. yup, no customer will allow that, but my boss wants it to be done when a customer buys a phone here, when you are helping them downloading games or songs... my big boss, the owner is honest guy, but my boss i dont know man....
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Look, it might be good to run it by the big boss, but either way, go to the police. And uninstall the app from your phone.
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andrewsena said:
thanks so much for help... although i don't know how to read or understand what the website is saying. yup, no customer will allow that, but my boss wants it to be done when a customer buys a phone here, when you are helping them downloading games or songs... my big boss, the owner is honest guy, but my boss i dont know man....
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Look, while you need to go to the police, I'm not sure how will the Malaysian authorities will deal with it. Try and find some global company that deals with these problems to also deal with it.
And maybe you should flag this for a mod to delete it.
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BTW, most probably this boss is just looking for some extra cash, and he's being used to do this. Misguided and a twisted mind. Maybe he has no idea what the app does?