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Did the quality of apps just take a nosedive?

Is it just me that's noticing this? Nowadays most of the new apps are just terrible. For example "IM Buddy", I can't fathom how this piece of shift passed certification. It's mind boggling.

If you think that's bad, just look at 90% of the iPhone's app store! This is why quantity doesn't trump quality.
iPhone and Android users keep quoting the NUMBER of apps in their stores as being somehow the best indicator of how a store is doing, but in the end a store with 4,000 top quality apps is far better than a store with 300,000 rotten eggs.
I mean, does the music business tout how many records they have? Is Sony BMG better than EMI because they've put out more music? Of course not. It's all down to the quality of the artists.
Same with apps.
All app stores will end up with some dross. I pray the WP7 store will end up with less of it. All the dross does it make the cream harder to find.

This is the problem now that MS has where they are being judged by quantity when it comes to apps more than quality so they will put stuff through that they otherwise would not had the media let up on the bashing. Though its worth noting that android has a lot worse and is flooded with pure rubbish.

Glad I'm not the only one that thinks the marketplace is full of mostly crap-ware. Other than games, I haven't bought a single thing from the marketplace. The majority of the apps on there regurgitate stuff you could find by doing a simple goobing search. Most of the decent stuff is freeware anyway, like YouTube, Facebook, IMDB, Adobe Reader.
And how many tip-calculators are there!! Do people really calculate their tips based on how much they paid, how many people there are and what percentage tip they want to leave?? You could just calculate how much your meal was and then round the figure off like every other completely sane person.
Solutions looking for problems if you ask me.

masadav said:
And how many tip-calculators are there!! Do people really calculate their tips based on how much they paid, how many people there are and what percentage tip they want to leave?? You could just calculate how much your meal was and then round the figure off like every other completely sane person.
Solutions looking for problems if you ask me.
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ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
sometimes it's really difficult to calculate a 10% tip.. i have 5 tip calculators just in case one of them messes up.

I'm hoping that once a month or something, they get their interns over there at MS to go through the apps and delete the crap/ duplicate apps and notify the developer that they need to up their game.
Do we really need 8 different live-book apps from the same guy, one of which is about a bridge they put up near him?

pillsburydoughman said:
Is it just me that's noticing this? Nowadays most of the new apps are just terrible. For example "IM Buddy", I can't fathom how this piece of shift passed certification. It's mind boggling.
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I don't think it's any worse than it's been from the start. It's always a lot of crap and some good stuff. I can't agree with the guy who said he'd never purchase anything that's not a game. I've purchased Pictures Labs, Stocks Tile, Cocktail Flow, iKamasutra, Personal Shopping Assistant, Word Explorer Dictionary, and I'll give the $3 to Seymour whenever the trial asks me to. I have another 20 or so free apps installed that are pretty good, too.

i don't think we should be worried about what apps go in. what really needs to happen is that the market place itself needs a bit of a revamp in terms of functionality. Possible things that could be put in which would easily make the market place stand up above all rivals are... an advanced search for it, change logs, friends using app, trial/buy ratio, most downloaded/purchased in last day/week/month, feature requests (with rating for request), dev interactions (someway that the dev can get feedback on a particular feature), app beta testing (e.g. one of us makes an app, and we want just the xda community to beta test it before we ship it out for the masses).
all of these are just little ideas that could easily improve the market, help devs bring better products, and ultimately separate the crapware from the awesomeware.

Where I have spent $$$ on apps..
Games: Many - mostly XBL but a couple not XBL worth buying (try a game called Decent... it's really great looking and fun)
Apps: YomoMedia - it's a good RSS feeder and reader... Converter Pro... very cool app for converting everything including currency. Thumba 2 - best image editor on WP7... bar-none. Morfo - because it's retarded and fun. Metro Web Browser - it's cool but it was kind of a waste - it does add some novel features to browsing but not having it integrated is kinda well... worthless. Collage - another great picture app. Picture Frame - another good one for displaying pictures. Picture Labs... not as good as Thumba. Presenter - cool way to control my powerpoints alas not the best solution without Bluetooth however!

Let's think for a minute. The iPhone App Store is filled largely with...garbage apps. Same with Android Market (perhaps more so). What made you guys think that Windows Marketplace wasn't going to suffer the same fate?

wish they would let US, the community, screen the apps i.e. which gets approved or which gets trashed. just wishful thinking

hboos said:
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
sometimes it's really difficult to calculate a 10% tip.. i have 5 tip calculators just in case one of them messes up.
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Only if u had a 3rs grade education.
Just move the decimal one place to the left... It's not hard and involves really no math skills.
I can't believe you posted this crap...
Tip calculators are useless.
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N8ter said:
Only if u had a 3rs grade education.
Just move the decimal one place to the left... It's not hard and involves really no math skills.
I can't believe you posted this crap...
Tip calculators are useless.
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Hehehe, N8ter, I think he's just posting a sarcastic or joke about tip calculators

N8ter said:
Only if u had a 3rs grade education.
Just move the decimal one place to the left... It's not hard and involves really no math skills.
I can't believe you posted this crap...
Tip calculators are useless.
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thanks n8ter. i never knew you could do that. what if there is no decimal to move to the left? but if you move the decimal to the left and the left way is right and the right way is wrong what is left is just the wrong way through the centre and it all becomes mind bottling...
i know it's sometimes difficult to sense sarcasm but you'd think that common sense would factor in somewhere..
but seriously...
there are lots of useless apps in any marketplace but you need that base of useless apps which draws in more users (just because of publicized numbers of apps) and this in turn will attract more developers.
so i welcome all these useless/junk apps.. i won't be using them but they are good for inflating the number of apps in WP7

There was nothing in that post to indicate sarcasm. No emoticon or anything. If you were being sarcastic, you failed at indicating it.
If you actually read this forum, you'll notice that lots of people say lots of things you may think is sarcastic, but they actually mean it.

N8ter said:
There was nothing in that post to indicate sarcasm. No emoticon or anything. If you were being sarcastic, you failed at indicating it.
If you actually read this forum, you'll notice that lots of people say lots of things you may think is sarcastic, but they actually mean it.
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I clocked it as sarcasm but you're from the USA aren't you? I think Americans don't get or use sarcasm as much as we do in the UK. Or something.
But anyway, yeah it was definitely sarcasm.

sometimes it's really difficult to calculate a 10% tip.. i have 5 tip calculators just in case one of them messes up.
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that line screams sarcasm imo..

Agreed. That was a very successful troll.
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Well, I'm going to add three QUALITY apps to the Norwegian market as soon as it opens. Might even have to release them as free apps on the american/english markets until the Norwegian one opens, as licenses are bound to the country you buy it from. So...if I sell through foreign market, users will lose their license when they move to the domestic one :S

Crap apps are easy to make
Good apps take time
This is why there were good apps at launch, but now you see more crap. Give it another month or so, and the tides will turn. Keeping the Zune market from being plagued like the Ios store and Android store, that will be hard to do.

Random question..

My buddy was telling me about how there is a site that allows people to hire others, and they give them a "free place to live, and food" in exchange for their manual labor on their farm, or whatever they own. Does anyone know what he is talking about?

Honestly, no clue. Why don't you ask your buddy about it?

Well..he drinks a bit, ha. And i don't know if it's real or not, so i figured i would ask the masses. He said he found it on the internet, but forgets it now..

At that point I'd personally just dismiss it, but just me.
What he's describing is feudalism.

Eh, i usually would. But i want to move around for the next couple of years, and this would be perfect.

Ranchers do this in Texas and Wyoming quite a bit. Room and board for labor on the ranch.
It's HARD work and LONG hours and not for alot of people but it's a job and a place to stay.

I dunno.....kinda sounds shady.....

DarkManX4lf said:
I dunno.....kinda sounds shady.....
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Does..but would be awesome.

I heard about this too, it's kindof like a craigslisttype thing, but just for odd jobs.... you post what you need done, and what your willing to pay, then people can respond and do the work. I never caught the site name, but it does exist....
Why do you ask? And here of all places?
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Negrito said:
I heard about this too, it's kindof like a craigslisttype thing, but just for odd jobs.... you post what you need done, and what your willing to pay, then people can respond and do the work. I never caught the site name, but it does exist....
Why do you ask? And here of all places?
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I would love to move around and just experience the world..do random stuff, ya know? And i am on a variety of forums, but this is probably the most tech savvy, and would have greater results.

Sounds like slavery to me. Working for the minimist of wages, grits and tattered clothes.

Fair enough.
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maybe something like this?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=...avclient-ff&rlz=1B3GGHP_enUS428US428&ie=UTF-8
i had heard of something where someone can travel and live with random people as well also dont know if it was fake or not but usually requires back ground check etc i beleave

also maybe this lol
http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=...avclient-ff&rlz=1B3GGHP_enUS428US428&ie=UTF-8

It's not shady. Like the one guy said, a lot of ranchers do this out west.

ckoadiyn said:
also maybe this lol
http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=...avclient-ff&rlz=1B3GGHP_enUS428US428&ie=UTF-8
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I am looking at the house sitting thing..seems rather neat. But i would still have to make some sort of money to pay for bills and such, ya know?
I have heard of couch surfers, but see above.

kind of like an au pair? I don't want anyone from this site near my kids, especially apple users

What he was talking about was a sort of farm like thing, where people hire you in, let you live at their house, you do work, and get paid some. But you wouldn't get paid that much because you are getting free food and board.

Lol seems like someone read up on indentured servants and thought maybe this will catch on again.
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OP, if you want to travel, live with random people, have room and board provided, AND get paid for it... Join the Armed Services.

FBI = CIQ

http://www.muckrock.com/news/archiv...rrier-iq-files-used-law-enforcement-purposes/
Thanks all you devs for keeping us safe from the people who are supposed to be keeping is safe!

crzchn said:
http://www.muckrock.com/news/archiv...rrier-iq-files-used-law-enforcement-purposes/
Thanks all you devs for keeping us safe from the people who are supposed to be keeping is safe!
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Looks like the FOIA request was denied because the data the FBI has is currently part of an investigation. It is possible that the investigation is into CarrierIQ instead of some person. It may be sign of a good thing.
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That's some scary stuff.. so since my phone is rooted.. they can't do this? Honestly.. I've never doubted the fact that the FBI or the government had the ability to trace my calls and see everything I did.. In my plot to take over the world I.. I never planned to use a cell phone
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Dwayneiztheshyt said:
That's some scary stuff.. so since my phone is rooted.. they can't do this? Honestly.. I've never doubted the fact that the FBI or the government had the ability to trace my calls and see everything I did.. In my plot to take over the world I.. I never planned to use a cell phone
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lol.. hopefully they use it for the greater good.... thats all i would have to say, there is a lot of sickos out there.

Dwayneiztheshyt said:
That's some scary stuff.. so since my phone is rooted.. they can't do this? Honestly.. I've never doubted the fact that the FBI or the government had the ability to trace my calls and see everything I did.. In my plot to take over the world I.. I never planned to use a cell phone
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Your phone has to be more than rooted to get rid of CarrierIQ, it needs to have a custom ROM as well that states that it has CIQ removed. Unnamed ROM is the best I have used so far.
But if they want to know something, they will find a way. I think, however, we should not make it easy for them.

crzchn said:
Your phone has to be more than rooted to get rid of CarrierIQ, it needs to have a custom ROM as well that states that it has CIQ removed. Unnamed ROM is the best I have used so far.
But if they want to know something, they will find a way. I think, however, we should not make it easy for them.
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Aha ha I agree!
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crzchn said:
Your phone has to be more than rooted to get rid of CarrierIQ, it needs to have a custom ROM as well that states that it has CIQ removed. Unnamed ROM is the best I have used so far.
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Actually you can disable CIQ once you are rooted without needing a custom ROM.

the worst part about ciq and other non government agencies collecting data is that they are used by the fbi and cia to share info... which is illegal through direct channels. also, a third party collecting our info and delivering it to the carriers is totally unacceptable. theres tons of threads in the OG epic forums... as thats where konane first found and decided to kill CIQ. i honestly wonder if all the anti-ciq stuff really started there... then the tech pundit sites reported what was in these forums as usual... then the mainstream noticed... idunno. as far as plots to take over the world/bring down systems... keep it analog like good music. all the major telecoms have an open door policy w the feds... so its not like they would need CIQ for normal investigations... and they have a grace period to get warrants after they look at the info... patriot acts sealed the fate of privacy and liberty in this country. all because of a now dead boogeyman living in a cave... good job america... something about a jackboot on a human head... forever...
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nivron said:
Looks like the FOIA request was denied because the data the FBI has is currently part of an investigation. It is possible that the investigation is into CarrierIQ instead of some person. It may be sign of a good thing.
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It's the FBI. You don't think while they are combing through all that data while investigating CIQ they won't "stumble" upon certain things? Or mirror those servers? Or realize how useful to them CIQ is and say they've found nothing wrong with what CIQ or the carriers are doing?
Do you think for a moment the FBI isn't already using CIQ as a resource to catch 'terrorists'? Like how the airlines use full body scanners and the TSA to catch 'terrorists' with the same high (lmao!) efficiency.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2011/12/12/fbi-says-carrieriq-may-be-used-in-law-enforcement-proceedings/
Not saying you think any of that, just making a point. I'm pretty sure most of us are on the same page with this crap.

I think even if it is big brother watching over us, who cares? For the 99.99999999% of the US population, nothing your talking about is that important or a danger, for the small fraction of the folks that this applies to, i welcome it. I do however take issue with the fact that once the lid was blown off, how the company responded (legal action against Treve) and their continued un-truth's. Do we really think that this sort of monitoring isn't taking place now? Pretty much anytime you use a computer/IT resource for any company or agency, you consent to monitoring, the difference is declaration.

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Actually you can disable CIQ once you are rooted without needing a custom ROM.
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Actually the code may be embedded deeper than we thought. Not just at the system or kernel level, but further. I'm no microprocessor engineer but doesn't almost every chip have instruction sets or at least some sort of code written into it? Because when CIQ itself says one of the 3 methods of loading it on the device is at the hardware level - that's what it sounds like to me. Literally the chips are programed with CIQ in the code.
Remove that.

then we would have to disable it in drivers

xlGmanlx said:
I think even if it is big brother watching over us, who cares? For the 99.99999999% of the US population, nothing your talking about is that important or a danger, for the small fraction of the folks that this applies to, i welcome it. I do however take issue with the fact that once the lid was blown off, how the company responded (legal action against Treve) and their continued un-truth's. Do we really think that this sort of monitoring isn't taking place now? Pretty much anytime you use a computer/IT resource for any company or agency, you consent to monitoring, the difference is declaration.
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Oh man, here we go with the "I don't have anything to hide so why should I care" section of this conversation.
I'm not embarrassed about having sex but I sure as hell am not going to let you watch. It's called privacy. Has nothing to do with having things to hide, it has to do with the basic human right to have our own space, time, thoughts, gadgets, property, voice, opinion, and so on.
There are no saints either. Everybody has lied, cheated, stolen, done something wrong that would get them in trouble. Sometimes it was a mistake or even an accident. Does that mean black helicopters should have descended on you to whisk you away to a 5x5 cell without trial? No, and why without trial? Because at this point they don't need a warrant and as per the Patriot Act you don't even have to be charged with something to be held for, well, forever. So no trial is the next logical step.
Just a little interesting fact, the US Patriot Act is actually an acronym for "Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act"

just calling out the fact that more than likely this already takes place and we didn't even know it before and how many CIQ's were there before them? Also, I think you are making the same similar leap. CIQ is step one, step 2 is no trial/minority report type tactics? I agree that privacy when possible should be maintained, but lets not be naive and think that it hasn't already happened.
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Prime example of the worst offender? Facebook, yet no one is up in arms about that......

I never doubted the gov would trace. Glad its gone.

This whole CIQ thing is being blown out of proportion if you ask me.
If you have nothing to hide then you really shouldn't worry, regardless.
At the end of the day these agencies are trying to help protect us weather you believe it or not. Just like with every system there are flaws that doesn't mean we should abolish them, but rather make them better !!
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just calling out the fact that more than likely this already takes place and we didn't even know it before and how many CIQ's were there before them? Also, I think you are making the same similar leap. CIQ is step one, step 2 is no trial/minority report type tactics? I agree that privacy when possible should be maintained, but lets not be naive and think that it hasn't already happened.
Prime example of the worst offender? Facebook, yet no one is up in arms about that......
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You can choose weather or not to participate with Facebook, and it is in their TOS, CIQ however, was not.

pasta1234 said:
This whole CIQ thing is being blown out of proportion if you ask me.
At the end of the day these agencies are trying to help protect us ....
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Protect us from what?
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Agreed, and I believe this was a huge oversight on their part. The point i was trying to make is there are plenty of other spaces where the privacy is willing given away with little notification and facebook is one of them. Hell they have been told they are to comply with any audits for the next 20 years.
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You can choose weather or not to participate with Facebook, and it is in their TOS, CIQ however, was not.
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pasta1234 said:
This whole CIQ thing is being blown out of proportion if you ask me.
If you have nothing to hide then you really shouldn't worry, regardless.
At the end of the day these agencies are trying to help protect us weather you believe it or not. Just like with every system there are flaws that doesn't mean we should abolish them, but rather make them better !!
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Ugh, that argument just makes me sick. Those agencies are trying to protect their livelihood, which comes from protecting us, but it's not the same thing. Police detectives get promotions partly based on their case closure rates, that means they have self interest in closing cases that might not be quite airtight. Because who doesn't want a promotion, with the prestige and money that comes with it. The CIA was certain iraq had WMD's, and was trying to obtain yellowcake uranium from Niger, because blockbuster findings like that lead to more funding, which means more turf for those section directors. They aren't all bad obviously, on the contrary I'm certain most of them want to do the right thing. It's the few that don't because they care more about their career than anything else, or the guy that is trying to do the right thing but simply gets it wrong. Mistakes happen, data gets misread or incorrectly analyzed, and people suffer for it. I don't want to be that unlucky person, so I don't want that crap operating on my phone.

Google pull adblockers from market

It looks like google have removed adblock plus adaway and such from the market, so backup your APK's if you want to carry on using those apps.

We could always ditch google play...
Can't post links, but anyone who wants site or direct download links, please PM me.

It's understandable that they are doing this. After all they give out Android and the sources for FREE. Everyone knows Google earns most if its revenue from adds and it isn't unreasonable to ask users for support in the form of accepting adds in free apps.
If you want to get rid of adds just show some support to devs and get payed versions of apps you use. If you want to support warez even by pm's you can do that elsewhere.

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It's understandable that they are doing this. After all they give out Android and the sources for FREE. Everyone knows Google earns most if its revenue from adds and it isn't unreasonable to ask users for support in the form of accepting adds in free apps.
If you want to get rid of adds just show some support to devs and get payed versions of apps you use. If you want to support warez even by pm's you can do that elsewhere.
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What are you talking about?! :laugh: What warez?!
Those are free apps, just being kicked out from google play, doesn't make them wares.
If you bother, you could find them yourself, just use google.
BTW, I am unable to donate to devs cause of my country's policies, no matter how willing I am. So, use your brain a little before making offensive comments.

Plus the likes of adaway stops ads on websites as well which is very useful.
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Drefsab said:
It looks like google have removed adblock plus adaway and such from the market, so backup your APK's if you want to carry on using those apps.
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The answer is at https://f-droid.org/
Incidentally they so seem to have pulled all 3rd party store apps.
I see no ethical issues with installing an ad blocking app. On my PCs I have gone even further and installed Ghostery which blocks all sort of tracking activities.
We do need to be aware that adware helps devs provide stuff for free, and the good ones give you the option of paying a little to remove the ads.

do you work for Google or something?
since when is blocking ads considered warez?
Is dvr warez for you too? I don't watch ads on TV either.
I have adblock on my pc, oh my what a hacker I am...
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Another alternative to the ad blocker apps is to change your hosts file in the system/etc folder..
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http://db.tt/WI1GQXwJ APK for adaway incase you aren't able to get it.
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akselic said:
It's understandable that they are doing this. After all they give out Android and the sources for FREE. Everyone knows Google earns most if its revenue from adds and it isn't unreasonable to ask users for support in the form of accepting adds in free apps.
If you want to get rid of adds just show some support to devs and get payed versions of apps you use. If you want to support warez even by pm's you can do that elsewhere.
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Actually, you have a point.
People work hard, and then they give their work for free, so they give ads, for revenue, and then you find loopholes in that too?
This is just my opinion, don't mean to start an argument.
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theDroidfanatic said:
Actually, you have a point.
People work hard, and then they give their work for free, so they give ads, for revenue, and then you find loopholes in that too?
This is just my opinion, don't mean to start an argument.
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playstation network is free, but I paid for the console, if ps3 made adds all over the screen so you couldn't play or view it, I'm sure that they would lose customers. Google makes enough money from sales of their phones, which have the latest android first, and make alot of money with other things that they produce. There is no need for them to mess up an app that a dev put out there for free bc of greed. just sayin

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playstation network is free, but I paid for the console, if ps3 made adds all over the screen so you couldn't play or view it, I'm sure that they would lose customers. Google makes enough money from sales of their phones, which have the latest android first, and make alot of money with other things that they produce. There is no need for them to mess up an app that a dev put out there for free bc of greed. just sayin
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Yes, but this isn't Google we're talking about, it is the Devs.
The Devs add the ads to their apps, for their income, not Google's
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Yes, but this isn't Google we're talking about, it is the Devs.
The Devs add the ads to their apps, for their income, not Google's
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and if a dev needs income they should make it a paid app / adds are the devils work

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and if a dev needs income they should make it a paid app / adds are the devils work
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Lol, you don't get it do you?
They want to give people, who can't buy apps, access to them.
Anyways, this is their wish, and if you block ads, that is wrong, don't want ads? Don't use their apps, simple as that.
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let's not pretend here this is a thing about legality or not.
it's in my right to block ads if I want to.
it's also a developer's choice to make his app free and ad supported. By blocking ads I'm not doing anything illegal.
Google removing ad blockers is simply a move to increase profit. it's a choice they are entitled to as a business but not something I have to tolerate as an end user, and i don't.
my point is, if you want to make your app ad supported you are just gonna have to accept the fact that some users just don't like ads.
this does limit profits for the developer's I guess but as an end user I'm not doing anything wrong.
I like to support developers, when it's due. Watching ads, wasting bandwidth and battery is not one of the acceptable means though .
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drivenby said:
let's not pretend here this is a thing about legality or not.
it's in my right to block ads if I want to.
it's also a developer's choice to make his app free and ad supported. By blocking ads I'm not doing anything illegal.
Google removing ad blockers is simply a move to increase profit. it's a choice they are entitled to as a business but not something I have to tolerate as an end user, and i don't.
my point is, if you want to make your app ad supported you are just gonna have to accept the fact that some users just don't like ads.
this does limit profits for the developer's I guess but as an end user I'm not doing anything wrong.
I like to support developers, when it's due. Watching ads, wasting bandwidth and battery is not one of the acceptable means though .
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That is not true.
You want to support developers? You clearly aren't if you do this, also, they give you the app for FREE, and give ads. Don't like the ads? Either: 1) But the Full version 2) Don't use the app
And I really don't get one thing nowadays, there is something known as ethics? General morals? Right and wrong?
It may not be illegal to block ads, but you're stopping the developers' incomes, those developers who give you their work for free, in exchange for tiny ads. And then you block those ads, that is wrong, my friend.
And waste bandwidth? You can't be serious How much bandwidth can a repetitive ad take? Less than half an MB a day? I'm sure that effects no one, especially if we are able to purchase a One X, and a computer.
Bottom line, Devs do hard work, and its wrong, if not illegal, to block ads.
Take this, for example. In many US states, a bit of Marijuana is legal, right?
But, If your hypothetical son, above the age of 18, smoked Marijuana, would you like it? No. Its not illegal, but its wrong, no? I know smoking pot is nothing near blocking ads, but its just to prove, that if something isn't illegal, it can still be wrong, which, I believe, blocking ads is.
And why do I support this? Because I'm a developer too, if not an app developer, a ROM developer. And its frikkin hard work. Working for hours, sitting on your butt with a laptop on your legs, continuously debugging, trying different things, making it perfect, then releasing it, and If people block ads? For me, it would be like if everyone used my ROM, but no one thanked me, or complimented it.
So, just saying, its wrong
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@theDroidfanatic
Sooo... I can't pay apps from my country... And I don't want ads on my phone... What should I do, any idea?

there is nothing morally wrong about blocking ads tdf
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donmarkoni said:
@theDroidfanatic
Sooo... I can't pay apps from my country... And I don't want ads on my phone... What should I do, any idea?
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Easiest way is to use google to search for ad blockers. That's all...

donmarkoni said:
@theDroidfanatic
Sooo... I can't pay apps from my country... And I don't want ads on my phone... What should I do, any idea?
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Live with the ads
We can't always get what we want, and you can use the Amazon AppStore, it's easy to make a US account there, many tutorials on Google, I buy must of my apps from there
drivenby said:
there is nothing morally wrong about blocking ads tdf
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According to me, there is, cuz it's their income you're blocking, but everyone's entitled to his own opinion
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Android-related Job Postings

Just thought I would share this with you guys. Got an email looking for Android Developers among many other things. Salaries are awesome. This is legit.
"Hi Damon,
I am conducting a search for our client in Portland, OR to fill their Android Developer position and am reaching out in case you know of anyone who would be a fit.
Please check out the link below and apply if you are interested in hearing more about the job.
The full job description is listed at the end of this email!
For more details on this job*or to*apply*simply visit CyberCoders:
http://www.CyberCoders.com/qb.aspx?posId=JW1-AtronAndroid&ad=CSNPMSJacob.Wolf
Not a fit for this job?* Search all of our*open jobs:
http://www.CyberCoders.com/qa.aspx?ad=CSNPMSJacob.Wolf&sterm=*
Happy where you are?* Great!* Know someone who isn't?**Refer a friend for this position and if*we place them you'll get an iPad!*
I will only email you when we find a new job that may be a good fit for your background.* You can also use the link below if you would like us to hold off on emails to you about new jobs.
Thank you,
Jacob
Jacob Wolf
Executive Recruiter | View My Bio »
949.861.2488 | [email protected]
If you are a Android Developer, please read on!
We are a growing mobile development company that is looking for talented mobile developer to add to our team in Portland, Oregon. Ideal candidates will be excited to create new Android applications and help us continue to grow as a company using the latest technology of today. This is a full time position and we would love to talk to anyone with GIS or Location based application experience using the Android platform.
This job is a great opportunity to work with some of the latest software & most cutting edge hardware.
What you need for this position:
- Android development experience
- Java development experience is a plus
- Location based mobile application development experience
What's in it for you:
- Flexible work hours and a
- Relaxed work environment.
- Stability of a full time position
- Paid-benefits position, complete with
- Paid Vacation
- Health Insurance
So, if you are a Android Developer please apply today!
JobID: JW1-AtronAndroid"
So if anyone is gonna apply, I'd appreciate the iPad lol. If more than one person applies and gets accepted, I'll run a raffle for the additional iPads on this thread. You can find my full name and email on my Xda profile.
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Um, doesn't it seem kinda odd that they are promoting a competitor for a job opening?? I don't see legit written anywhere on this.. I work for Pepsi, and don't see anyone giving a coke away for referring an employee.. Just my 2¢
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Im a janitor and you get free **** if you apply at my job.
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sparytrainor said:
Um, doesn't it seem kinda odd that they are promoting a competitor for a job opening?? I don't see legit written anywhere on this.. I work for Pepsi, and don't see anyone giving a coke away for referring an employee.. Just my 2¢
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Uhhhhh, how exactly are they promoting a competitor again? I checked out the openings, and the company Web page. The company is grounded and established dude.

So ur saying android and apple aren't competitors?? Again, just my 2¢
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Oh that. The iPad thing. It's probably a 1st gen piece of crap anyways. Which is why they don't mind giving them away. They could be refurbished after cracking them open to get some Apple secrets. I mean a million explanations! We dunno.
I didn't really see that as promoting competition because the company is definitely benefiting more from getting the developer than care about an iPad.
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this is a phishing scam. they really just want your personal info.
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you have to create an account. they are banking that your contact email address will have the same password you use for your account on that site. they probably also try your name at various bank sites with the password you used.

austin420 said:
this is a phishing scam. they really just want your personal info.
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Aside from speculation, how did you come to this conclusion?

austin420 said:
this is a phishing scam. they really just want your personal info.
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you have to create an account. they are banking that your contact email address will have the same password you use for your account on that site. they probably also try your name at various bank sites with the password you used.
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So what? You have to create an account for alot of employers. Fred Meyer, McDonalds, a bunch of places. They use it to keep your user profile and sometimes to keep past applications. By the way, the way I know you don't know for sure is your use of the word "probably".

This is shady as shady gets. They're CLEARLY going above and beyond to sell you on why you should do this. They sound way to desperate. To each there own, but I wouldn't risk it...#SCAM.
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ArchangelRenzoku said:
So what? You have to create an account for alot of employers. Fred Meyer, McDonalds, a bunch of places. They use it to keep your user profile and sometimes to keep past applications. By the way, the way I know you don't know for sure is your use of the word "probably".
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okay sir. everybody else is wrong and you are right. this is totally legit. we should all give our personal info to some random site because every body knows that everything on the net is totally trustworthy.
not.

Check it. I'm not trying to prove anyone right or wrong. I just want people to cite what they say. Have some proof and all that. If it's a scam, then someone should report it to the browsers (IE, Mozilla, Google, etc.) so they can stop people from going to it. Let them check it out. Don't just burn on it to burn on it no matter how many "leading" points there are. The only way to know for sure is to go and do it. Someone use a fake email and name and see what happens to it once they "steal" it and whatnot. Feel me?
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Good jobs are never advertised. #scam
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I do know that name - and for you with paranoia... Google is your friend.
Cybercoders has been around for a while - seen them on Dice and I think Monster.
Probably just looking for new coders - sure there's plenty of interest.
Looks legit to me.