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Honest opinion? do u think we will get source from sammy soon?

Honest opinion? do u think we will get source from sammy soon?
This isnt a bash sammy/tmobil thread!!
What do u guys think?????

No
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I believe we'll see it within the next two weeks. (I'm hoping for this coming week, but I don't want to set myself up for disappointment!)

Yes. Two weeks tops.
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I honestly think we would get source pretty soon especially since Samsung is basically encouraging rooted Samsung devices. My reason behind this statement is because they hired Cyanogen and gave his Team free Galaxy S2 phones.
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I believe we will. I have no doubt that it will happen soon...ish.
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Has anyone here had the vibrant? If you have you can understand why i say no
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kennyp987 said:
Has anyone here had the vibrant? If you have you can understand why i say no
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I've also had the Vibrant. Sammy took a while to release official updates for it, but they did leak a very large amount of roms and the dev community was excellent. The biggest draw back of the Vibrant for me was the GPS and lack of led flash. Other than that it was an excellent phone in its time.TRUST ME SAMMY WILL RELEASE THE SOURCE FOR THIS PHONE AND THE DEV COMMUNITY WILL BE EXCELLENT FOR THIS PHONE.
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I've also had the Vibrant. Sammy took a while to release official updates for it, but they did leak a very large amount of roms and the dev community was excellent. The biggest draw back of the Vibrant for me was the GPS and lack of led flash. Other than that it was an excellent phone in its time.TRUST ME SAMMY WILL RELEASE THE SOURCE FOR THIS PHONE AND THE DEV COMMUNITY WILL BE EXCELLENT FOR THIS PHONE.
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I almost got the Vibrant over the HD2, but the no flash killed it for me.
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Yes. Two weeks tops.
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Looks like you dumped sprint too huh? I remember seeing you over at the Evo forums.
It's greener on this side.
I think we will have source probably within a month or so.

Yea, been with tmobile over a month and very glad i made the switch.
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Looks like you dumped sprint too huh? I remember seeing you over at the Evo forums.
It's greener on this side.
I think we will have source probably within a month or so.
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If they don't I will be getting at Nexus prime. I think they are waiting till the telus variant releases.

Samsung probably wants to but T-mobile might be telling them not to.

If the telus version gets source we can just use that I hope its basically the same phone with different branding.

I hope so
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At&t GS2 already has source and its now rooted. That phone was released on October 2. So yeah 2-3 weeks tops we'll have source and be rooted. Hang in there!

To be honest this phone isn't my first choice I wish T-Mobile would of skipped the galaxy 2 and came out with a aws galaxy note. That probably would save gave T-Mobile millions of customers. Also gave me a reason to sell my galaxy tab 8.9 lol. Telus version comes the 19 all we can do is hope.

we'll definitely see the source
personally owning several Samsung phones, all of them having great support from both the community and from samsung
they could act faster if they had less devices on the market, but ... insanely enough they have like at least 6 version of every main line, that slows down their release process
just need patience

I think the mistake was realized with the vibrant. I believe they know and support what their customer base wants. They are a strong competative force and want to keep their customers happy. We will see frequent updates and root and massive mods.

hazard99 said:
I think the mistake was realized with the vibrant. I believe they know and support what their customer base wants. They are a strong competative force and want to keep their customers happy. We will see frequent updates and root and massive mods.
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I really think the vibrant thing was more tmobiles fault and not Samsung. I say this because there were so many leaked builds for gingerbread. If Samsung never intended to release the upgrade then why would they spend all that time making different builds. I see Samsung supporting this phone for a good while. This is their baby and that new prime is google's baby. The focus for Samsung will continue to be making touchwiz better.

Could Samsung Just Leak Source?

Samsung has already flexed its muscles by dictating to the US carriers what the GS3 will look like and be named. Despite this, Sprint seems to be calling the shots with this Epic Touch ICS update right now by holding it back for the GS3 launch.
It is pretty clear (to me at least) that FF18 will be the OTA release for ICS. I think at this point Samsung should basically just give the finger to Sprint and "accidentally" leak the source for FF18 for the Epic Touch.
I mean really, what do they have to lose?

Its all about the Benjamins you know the motto.... If they leak the upgrade now you may or may not want to get the GS3 but if they hold off and the GS3 is your only way of getting ICS then hmmmmmmm...
Let the GS3 hit the streets for a week or two and they get their initial money and then they will probably give us our upgrade to ICS. You know how it is, just like record sales or movie sales the first week is usually the big one.
Bottom line I think its all about how to generate the most revenue out of this

You dont bite the hand that feeds you
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Sprint is doing the same thing to the Evo 3D users too, hold off on the update & sell as many Evo LTE's & GS3's as possible, I don't like it either, but its business. I'm just hoping that Samsung will release source early like they did for Gingerbread on the Epic last November, we had source almost 3 weeks before Sprint pushed the update.
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Why would Sprint drop ICS on the S2 before the S3 with ICS hits the shelves? Thats the dumbest business move ever. Of course they are gonna wait a bit for the S3 to generate some cash then when they feel they have pulled enough subscribers, theyll give the older ones their treat. Yeah Sammy could screw Sprint over and leak the source but that would not make Mr. Hesse happy and Sammy doesnt wanna do that. Like edlivian said Sprint brings Sammy a decent piece of the pie. Why would they intentionally burn that bridge?
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Thank you! I guess I'm not the only one that understands business. Someone said the same thing last week here in general and i told them damn near the same thing you just did.
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I'm not interested in them releasing the OTA before the GS3 has its turn in the sun, guys, just source. Most people don't know what to do with source anyway so how can it hurt?

I might be mistaken on this but there is another legal aspect:
GPL was mentioned on another thread regarding the eMMC fix that stated it would violate GPL to release source if the official release did not match. Since no official confirmation has come from Sprint that FF18 is the OTA I don't think they can legally do it until that is given to them.
Oddly enough the i777 source hasn't dropped either so it also might be that they're holding back until a solution for the eMMC lockup is both in agreement, developed and passed to carriers. That is purely speculative though as follow-up inquires to OSRC, Mr. Sumrall and Samsung R&D have so far been unanswered.

I understand they want to make money but hasn't this phone not even been out a year yet? I don't know about everyone else but really, who the hell can upgrade to the gsIII or evo lte without going off contract and paying full price?? U guys make no sense. It's not time for our upgrade yet!
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t4d73 said:
I understand they want to make money but hasn't this phone not even been out a year yet? I don't know about everyone else but really, who the hell can upgrade to the gsIII or evo lte without going off contract and paying full price?? U guys make no sense. It's not time for our upgrade yet!
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ya seriously.. i for one if get the sgs3 it will be with verizon.. screw sprints network where i live.. if we even have service its crap and no know date for lte at all in site. most likely after 2014.. theyve been teasing us with leaks as long as the phones been out almost and have other phones such as the g nexus that have ics already so not like the sgs3 is the only one sprint has with ics.. if people are going to get a new phone they will. they need to stop playing with there customers who are anxiously waiting because the longer they wait the more frustrated we get.. if its about business give us what we want! competition is tough these days and business in the cell phone industry you have to maintain the customers u have now.. since almost everyone has a cell already, you must take customers from other carriers.. if we dont have sgs2 source yet and other carriers do, whos to say someone wont go to a competitor with a better network and buy a used sgs2 with source for ics and get the sgs3 upgrade? better business sprint?? not necessarily, but frustrating to the sgs2 owners who have been teased with multiple leaks and speculation and arent even ready to upgrade to the sgs3 yet. what do we get? the short end of the stick! stop worrying about new revenue and focus on the customers and network you currently have! if not you will lose customers to the competition who have better network, give us source, and have the same devices available
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ya seriously.. i for one if get the sgs3 it will be with verizon.. screw sprints network where i live.. if we even have service its crap and no know date for lte at all in site. most likely after 2014.. theyve been teasing us with leaks as long as the phones been out almost and have other phones such as the g nexus that have ics already so not like the sgs3 is the only one sprint has with ics.. if people are going to get a new phone they will. they need to stop playing with there customers who are anxiously waiting because the longer they wait the more frustrated we get.. if its about business give us what we want! competition is tough these days and business in the cell phone industry you have to maintain the customers u have now.. since almost everyone has a cell already, you must take customers from other carriers.. if we dont have sgs2 source yet and other carriers do, whos to say someone wont go to a competitor with a better network and buy a used sgs2 with source for ics and get the sgs3 upgrade? better business sprint?? not necessarily, but frustrating to the sgs2 owners who have been teased with multiple leaks and speculation and arent even ready to upgrade to the sgs3 yet. what do we get? the short end of the stick! stop worrying about new revenue and focus on the customers and network you currently have! if not you will lose customers to the competition who have better network, give us source, and have the same devices available
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If u have bad service where u live well that just sucks. But as much as we hate to admit it Sprint really does have the best plans for the price I think. I get pretty decent service where I live. Never had wimax and definitely will never see lte but that's ok. I'm probably not alone on not seeing lte. Unlimited 3g is still nice though. I just don't see how people justify them not giving us source because of the gsIII. I don't know about u but I don't have 600 bucks to throw away when I haven't even had this phone for a year yet.
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exactly lol.. my point is also in retaining its current customers.. yes we have unltd data which is nice.. and seems like were in the same boat! but sprint is delaying our ics source because of the sgs3.. way to treat your loyal customers who bought the sgs2 last year.. i bet the ppl with sgs3 wont get jelly bean for a while until sprint releases there first phone with jelly bean lol.. we will be left to using ports and custom roms which in my opinion are better than anything sprint can throw at us.. they should give us what we want, and will still generate revenue from new sgs3 owners at the same time.. and lte will attract new customers however late sprint is jumping on that ship.. but what about us? that was my point lol
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t4d73 said:
If u have bad service where u live well that just sucks. But as much as we hate to admit it Sprint really does have the best plans for the price I think. I get pretty decent service where I live. Never had wimax and definitely will never see lte but that's ok. I'm probably not alone on not seeing lte. Unlimited 3g is still nice though. I just don't see how people justify them not giving us source because of the gsIII. I don't know about u but I don't have 600 bucks to throw away when I haven't even had this phone for a year yet.
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yeah im not sure why so many people are complaining. If u want the official ICS that badly go blow ur money on the GS3 a year after u bought the GS2. Otherwise you have to wait just like everyone else. Don't expect the newest technology to just be handed to u on a silver platter just cuz you own an earlier version of it. Sprint doesn't owe you a thing. No where in your contract with them does it state that they "owe" you and OS upgrade in x amount of time. They do OTA upgrades as a courtesy when it makes sense to them. They are in the business to take customers away from other carriers and keep their current ones mostly satisfied on the side. If that's not enough then thats the beauty of capitalism. Find another carrier and pay more. You can't have it all.

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yeah im not sure why so many people are complaining. If u want the official ICS that badly go blow ur money on the GS3 a year after u bought the GS2. Otherwise you have to wait just like everyone else. Don't expect the newest technology to just be handed to u on a silver platter just cuz you own an earlier version of it. Sprint doesn't owe you a thing. No where in your contract with them does it state that they "owe" you and OS upgrade in x amount of time. They do OTA upgrades as a courtesy when it makes sense to them. They are in the business to take customers away from other carriers and keep their current ones mostly satisfied on the side. If that's not enough then thats the beauty of capitalism. Find another carrier and pay more. You can't have it all.
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Well like I already said I'm happy with Sprint. They have good price for their plans which r Truly unlimited. And I'm running ics right now so it's all good. Source would make it that much better though. GsIII probably would be a good upgrade I'm just not eligible right now like most. And from what some people with that device have said they aren't that impressed anyway.
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t4d73 said:
Well like I already said I'm happy with Sprint. They have good price for their plans which r Truly unlimited. And I'm running ics right now so it's all good. Source would make it that much better though. GsIII probably would be a good upgrade I'm just not eligible right now like most. And from what some people with that device have said they aren't that impressed anyway.
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yea.. better screen.. more ram.. i personally hope by the time i can upgrade if i stick with sprint will go for a quad core phone if its out lol
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What's so wrong with the ICS leaks we've got so far? Been using it as my daily driver for a while now and I couldn't be happier honestly
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What's so wrong with the ICS leaks we've got so far? Been using it as my daily driver for a while now and I couldn't be happier honestly
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Don't know. I'm running sfhubb's FF18 fire a while now with no problems. Everyone seems to think source would make a really big difference but I don't see how.
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imagine our amazing roms and then some.. aosp roms would be better with a lot more customization and tweaks.. were anxious for better roms.. but agreed, current roms are already awesome!
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t4d73 said:
Don't know. I'm running sfhubb's FF18 fire a while now with no problems. Everyone seems to think source would make a really big difference but I don't see how.
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It would help mostly with the kernels.

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You dont bite the hand that feeds you
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Well said
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Gnex over s3? Why...

Besides getting software releases first, why would anyone choose a Gnex over a s3? Development? Prolonged support? Hate for Touchwiz? Had plenty of development and support for my Captivate. Software can only do what the hardware can support. Why limit your capabilities? Less ram, only a 5MP camera, and slower processor. I waited 3+ months for s3 instead of getting a Gnex.
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Honestly the only reason i can ever see anyone picking the gnex over the siii these days is for the dev support (Jb and other updates right away) and the attractive price it is offered for in the states if you buy from the play store. Otherwise theres nothing else.

Prolonged support? Galaxy S III will have it as well, the support is still in its infancy though
Hate for touchwiz? There's always Nova/Apex Launchers for that
Development? Whatever the Gnex gets, the GS3 will likely get it too at some point
Software updates first? Galaxy S III will always get the samething eventually, JB builds are progressively getting more stable
It's really short-term benefits vs. long-term gains. If you like the short-term benefits and the cheaper price tag, Galaxy Nexus is for you.

Another thing you might add is that I can easily get 16-20 hours out of my phone. It's a very solid built phone with fantastic support. I own the unlocked GSM model sold by Google. I just bought the S3 because it's so damn sexy. The GNex is nice, just not as slim and sexy as the S3.
IMO the GNex is the all-round best phone out. Some other phone are better in certain areas, but the GNex really does what it needs to very well.

I paid $100 for my s3 from ATT and I can easily get 20+ hours out of my battery.
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What's your setup?
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I get 15-18 everyday on the s3 with jb
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Edit... i can see where this is going...but it all comes down once again to user experience

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What's your setup?
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Stock, non-rooted. Waiting to play with official JB before I root.
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Tlo218 said:
Stock, non-rooted. Waiting to play with official JB before I root.
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you'll be waiting a long time my friend. I suggest rooting now and trying aokp jb. Its pretty damn stable for a preview.
If developer support wasn't as strong as it currently is on the s3 I would definitely be considering the gnex though.

jefferson9 said:
you'll be waiting a long time my friend. I suggest rooting now and trying aokp jb. Its pretty damn stable for a preview.
If developer support wasn't as strong as it currently is on the s3 I would definitely be considering the gnex though.
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How long is a long time? A month?

Sn8kbordin said:
How long is a long time? A month?
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id guess late September to November at the earliest
On a side note, cm10 just released its nightlies. I'm running it now and its pretty stable

You might want to ask this question in the GNEX forum. You're asking why choose a Nexus over an S3. But most of us have chosen an S3 over a GNEX which is why we are in this forum. I guarantee you'll hear a whole different range of answers over there. lol
But hoenstly, GNEX is last year's hardware and even then, even the SGS2 matched it in *some* harwdware specs. Other than updates and some really good dev support there really isn't much else. Perhaps this year's round of Nexus devices may look more promising
At the end of the day its all choice though.

4.3 update news

Didn't see a thread for this so here you go.
http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...id-4-3-galaxy-note-2-galaxy-s3-galaxy-s4.html
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This is blogspam.
Just go directly to the source article:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/09/25/expected-release-date-android-4-3-for-galaxy-s4-galaxy-s3-and-note-ii/

Does it really matter when samsux releases the update. T mobile still has to push it. And dancing on the broken record line, as long as people selling new phones control the updates..........
Master blaster still runs Bartertown
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Sigh, still kind of vague. I'm waiting for the push backs of December then they will say early 2014. Feels bad man.

Just smoke signals. It is getting old to be left behind on updates with new phones. Time for carriers to focus more on updates rather than sales.
Note II 4 life

robrooter said:
Just smoke signals. It is getting old to be left behind on updates with new phones. Time for carriers to focus more on updates rather than sales.
Note II 4 life
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While I tend to agree,
Updates don't make money for carriers, phone sales do. Why would they change that dynamic?
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement

Coug76 said:
While I tend to agree,
Updates don't make money for carriers, phone sales do. Why would they change that dynamic?
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
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Because happy customers=repeat clientele. Although I've never been a big Apple fan, I now realize how important Steve Jobs was to the tech industry.

If you want updates get a nexus, otherwise be happy with your cool big screen phone with a pen
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If you want updates get a nexus, otherwise be happy with your cool big screen phone with a pen
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What a good consumer you are... surely every corporation would dream that the entire world be filled with carbon copies of you.

Bruce lee roy said:
What a good consumer you are... surely every corporation would dream that the entire world be filled with carbon copies of you.
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Maybe it's just this will be the third time I have gone through this. First with the behold 2, was promised to us that we would get froyo, which never happened. Second with vibrant, which was promised gingerbread, which also never happened. After that I went through nexus s, nexus s4g then galaxy nexus. Gnex was a bad daddy phone that still can hang with the newest. I was on the fence whether to get nexus 4(which my wife has) or the note. I decided that the screen and pen were more important to me then having newest software. I knew 100% what I was getting into. In the past I have complained to tmobile, signed petitions, complained to samsux, with null results. You may call me a corporate sheep, while I call myself an educated consumer.
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customer is always right...i guess
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Although Samsung is grosley behind the Nexus line up. To be fair Samsung probably has the best track record in terms of updates. The GS2 is still being supported and rumored to get 4.3. And T-Mobile ain't bad seems like we get updates faster than the other US carriers. Although I am using At&t note on T-Mo. Who cares I am sure I will get 4.3 long before official update from any carrier.
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Although Samsung is grosley behind the Nexus line up. To be fair Samsung probably has the best track record in terms of updates. The GS2 is still being supported and rumored to get 4.3. And T-Mobile ain't bad seems like we get updates faster than the other US carriers. Although I am using At&t note on T-Mo. Who cares I am sure I will get 4.3 long before official update from any carrier.
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one scenario would be once samsung releases the final build -- cyanogenmod gets ahold of it and and puts together a tmobile port for it -- and they start charging for roms maybe. they are in business now to make money and their stable roms tend to be just that.. i'd pay a reasonable amount for a stable rom with all the bells and whistles. I said CM since they went public as a corp- other modders have great roms too

md1008 said:
Although Samsung is grosley behind the Nexus line up. To be fair Samsung probably has the best track record in terms of updates. The GS2 is still being supported and rumored to get 4.3. And T-Mobile ain't bad seems like we get updates faster than the other US carriers. Although I am using At&t note on T-Mo. Who cares I am sure I will get 4.3 long before official update from any carrier.
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Doubt cm will port an OEM ROM, and especially now that they are technically a OEM. Their goal is to sell the cm experience. Now that they are a corporate they are now for profit. Now no one knows exactly how they are going to acneive that goal. Ads, teaming up with an OEM like Google does with lg and has done with Samsung and HTC. Maybe they will have their own app store. Maybe charge for the installer. Who knows
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Some what good news, there is a 4.3 leak for att note 2. No root method yet. I definitely don't recommended flashing if Cuz it will have ARF modem. I plan to flash soon. I have unlocked att note. Pretty sure if a leak doesn't come out there will be flashable zips soon which will make its way to T-Mobile
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Where did you hear of the leak? I haven't seen it yet
Why is the right door always locked?

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Where did you hear of the leak? I haven't seen it yet
Why is the right door always locked?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2496292

Nice, thank you
Why is the right door always locked?

I'm not messing with it but it's hard to tell from the model number. Is it for att variant?
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I'm not messing with it but it's hard to tell from the model number. Is it for att variant?
Why is the right door always locked?
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Yup... Which means ours should be soon:good:

G2 or Nexus 5

I am probably moving on from this phone to either G2 or Nexus 5. From a developing standpoint it looks like I would be able to contribute a lot more to G2. However, I have been pretty busy lately and would love to be continuously updated with the latest android. What do you guys think?

G2 but that's just my two cents as I'm sure a lot of people will say Nexus 5.
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nwsteeze said:
G2 but that's just my two cents as I'm sure a lot of people will say Nexus 5.
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What would the reasons be?
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Bigger screen, I like the back button design, hardware that will keep up with other phones for quite a while.
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Given LG's history of releasing a new flagship device every 6 months and quickly forgetting about their previous flagship phones when it comes to software updates, Nexus 5. (It'll feel newer longer.)
The Nexus 5 is GSM and CDMA compatible; higher resale value down the line.
While the Nexus 5 has a smaller battery, the built-in wireless charging capability (also featured on the Verizon LG G2) means occasional top-ups throughout the day are easy and convenient. While the wireless charging pads don't come with the Nexus 5, the price difference between it and the G2 mean you can afford at least two (one for work and one for home).
If you're considering a mobile provider that gives you a discount for not subsidizing a phone, the Nexus 5's retail price of $349/399 (16/32GB) versus the LG G2's ~$600 can save you a lot of money over the course of your carrier's contract.
TL;DR: Unless you need the 3000mAh battery, 5.2" screen, IR blaster, or moar megapixels... I'd advise the Nexus 5.

droidmk said:
I am probably moving on from this phone to either G2 or Nexus 5. From a developing standpoint it looks like I would be able to contribute a lot more to G2. However, I have been pretty busy lately and would love to be continuously updated with the latest android. What do you guys think?
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You'd be getting a sprint variant presumably right? The LS980 dev forums could use a little pick me up, roms are being built for multiple variants in one, and while thats cool and all, it would be nice to see LS980 specific roms/kernels. Since the N5 community is over saturated to be honest, another dev wouldn't matter much on the N5 seeing as everything over there has been built or is in the process. On the G2 however a new dev would be more appreciated seeing as there only a handful comparatively speaking of devs working on the sprint variant, hope this gives you some help on your decision!
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I love being able to contribute by building ROMs, but I have been super busy with life and work. I am happy with my decision to get the optimus g, but with 4.4 ROMs and most ROMs in general being glitchy it really makes me want the nexus so I can be constantly updated without many issues. I agree that the nexus won't need anymore devs, but maybe that's not a bad thing for me. I already feel bad when I don't have enough time to get something out to you guys.
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droidmk said:
I love being able to contribute by building ROMs, but I have been super busy with life and work. I am happy with my decision to get the optimus g, but with 4.4 ROMs and most ROMs in general being glitchy it really makes me want the nexus so I can be constantly updated without many issues. I agree that the nexus won't need anymore devs, but maybe that's not a bad thing for me. I already feel bad when I don't have enough time to get something out to you guys.
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I'm thinking of going with the nexus 5, i orderered one from the playstore for my mothers x-mas present and it showed up yesterday. its fast and light as hell. I'm seriously thinking that not having a contract anymore and a cheaper phone bill would be nice.
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Code-Craft said:
I'm thinking of going with the nexus 5, i orderered one from the playstore for my mothers x-mas present and it showed up yesterday. its fast and light as hell. I'm seriously thinking that not having a contract anymore and a cheaper phone bill would be nice.
evolutionmods
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I'm going to do mine through the new sprint one up. I can't afford a new phone outright.
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droidmk said:
I'm going to do mine through the new sprint one up. I can't afford a new phone outright.
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Even if you don't have the time to bring something to the table now, It's still pleasing to know that at some point you'll have time, should you join us over on the LS980 that is. It's not the quantity of releases that matters most, it's the quality. And right now we don't have much of either for LS980.
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I personally may be going with the Nexus 5. Until then, you'll be missed on this forum. (I'm assuming you'll stop deving for us if you get a new phone to focus on)
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Critical Detox said:
Even if you don't have the time to bring something to the table now, It's still pleasing to know that at some point you'll have time, should you join us over on the LS980 that is. It's not the quantity of releases that matters most, it's the quality. And right now we don't have much of either for LS980.
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Tempting. Sprint is being stupid as usual about working with me to stay a customer. I might be switching to t mobile. I heard that their data speeds are good but voice service sucks. Can anyone comment on that? I have been having terrible service with sprint lately and no 4g where I live so t mobile might be a huge upgrade.
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droidmk said:
Tempting. Sprint is being stupid as usual about working with me to stay a customer. I might be switching to t mobile. I heard that their data speeds are good but voice service sucks. Can anyone comment on that? I have been having terrible service with sprint lately and no 4g where I live so t mobile might be a huge upgrade.
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I'd think it fitting to do exactly and only what is right for you, and no one else.
As to voice + data services, these vary by region of the country. It took 2 years where I live for Sprint to go from selling 4G LTE phones and charging for them monthly to actually delivering on it. Now, I couldn't be happier with the data and voice quality (though voice has never been an issue where I reside).
T-Mobile may be great where you live, and based on what you've stated about wanting time for you and wanting a trouble-free update experience, go with the Nexus 5 and be done with it.
I wish you luck.
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micmars said:
I'd think it fitting to do exactly and only what is right for you, and no one else.
As to voice + data services, these vary by region of the country. It took 2 years where I live for Sprint to go from selling 4G LTE phones and charging for them monthly to actually delivering on it. Now, I couldn't be happier with the data and voice quality (though voice has never been an issue where I reside).
T-Mobile may be great where you live, and based on what you've stated about wanting time for you and wanting a trouble-free update experience, go with the Nexus 5 and be done with it.
I wish you luck.
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I appreciate all the opinions and thoughts. I ended up going with the nexus 5 on t mobile. I did the jump program so maybe in 6 months if I have the urge to contribute more I will try something different.
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