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To sgs2 or not to sgs2?

Just moved to t mobile and have a one s. Awesome phone, with spotty reception., which is the reason for wanting to exchange. Can't exchange for sgs3 due to backorders and 14 day exchange. Can go to sgs2 but is it worth the little downgrade?

I love mine. The device is rock solid and the multitude of custom ROMS, GB and ICS, should give you enough variety to find what makes you happy.
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How is reception, audio, camera, GPS, battery life

Don't do it because its going to take a while for us to get the new software (Jellybean). I'm going to give you a little advice that I learn the hard way. Only buy Google made phones like galaxy nexus. Never buy other parties like Samsung and HTC cause they never update phone and there's not a lot of development. For android only get Google specific manufacturer phone . I can't stress that enough
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Thanks but I'm well aware of that. I'm looking for a well developed phone hat doesn't have spotty reception the way the one s does

davwman said:
Thanks but I'm well aware of that. I'm looking for a well developed phone hat doesn't have spotty reception the way the one s does
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Then just get the Galaxy Nexus unlock from the play store
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Had the nexus on Verizon. No thanks, battery was worthless

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Then just get the Galaxy Nexus unlock from the play store
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Might want to take a look...not available any more.
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davwman said:
How is reception, audio, camera, GPS, battery life
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Reception is a tough one as it depends on so many factors. I live just a few miles from the nearest TMO tower and my job is only 15 miles away so I always have great reception. I'm currently running the Whitehawkx AOKP ROM and have no issues with audio, camera, GPS or battery. Audio is crystal clear on calls and through apps such as Pandora, HBOGo, etc. The camera is what it is, 8mp is capable of quite a bit and if you get a solid HDR app such as HDR Camer+ by Almalence, you'll really get to see the hardware used to its potential.
I don't use maps much so I can't comment a whole lot on GPS other than to say the few times I have needed it, it has worked flawlessly. The battery is of course dependent upon far too many factors that all come from personal usage tendencies but I can say from my experience I get between 15 and 20 hours of battery a day on a full charge.
I'd suggest just checking the phone out in store if possible to get a better feel of what you'd be getting. Yeah, the OS updates are few and far between, and could very well be over at this point, but with all the custom ROM choices and the abilities of the Devs here, I wouldn't be shocked to see more custom choices as we go along.

davwman said:
Had the nexus on Verizon. No thanks, battery was worthless
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so the verizon one may have had horrible battery life, but my gsm one that i bought last friday from the play store is at 60% battery with 15 hours of light use.

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Might want to take a look...not available any more.
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But I believe its coming back so I would wait for now
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There isn't a bright future for this phone. Most of the devs are moving away for greater phones. Our aokp dev doesn't have this phone anymore so it's not looking too good for aokp jellybean. I'd figure out a way for an s3 or wait for the nexus to come back (hopefully).
But if you must then this is a good phone with good Rom options at this point in time. Just don't be too hopeful about the future.
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But presently its still chugging along. I'm starting to drift towards getting the gs2, interchangeable battery expandable storage, bigger screen, stable roms. Let's here some more opinions.

If your still in your 14 days why don't u return the one s and cancel the service. Go buy a cheap prepaid phone get on T-Mobile prepaid or another prepaid service. Then when the gs3 becomes available resign up for service thru T-Mobile.
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Can't do that have my wife's and mother in law on my plan.

Each line is a separate two yr agreement if yours is in its 14 days u can cancel your line specifically. Your wife and mother in law will still have service. You just won't.
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Don't get this phone. Get a Galaxy Nexus.

I'm not paying full price for the gnex.

If you're looking for a really good phone but don't want to spend $600.00 then the S2 is for you IMO! I've enjoyed my S2 since I first bought it. I don't know how big you are on rooting, ROMs, and the like, but even if you don't root this phone is great! The only thing that might turn you off is the larger than average screen (the Galaxy S3 is even bigger, but thinner), in that case I would go with a Blaze.
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The s2 is a great device. Just because nexus got jellybean, people are acting like the s2 is complete crap. development is slow but at least we have something. Signal is great for me, battery lasts long and is interchangable ,SD, fast GPS lock, and lots of other things.
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After dinc2

So I love my phone but in about 6 months my contract is up and I will either buy a phone off contract to keep my unlimited or I will head tp sprint or T-Mobile, anyone have any suggestions of what would be a good move I want 4g a decent 8 mp can, and updated os or easy root to flash updates, suggestions ?
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Ask this question in 5 1/2 months. A lot can change phone-wise in this time.
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I will probably switch to a Google phone next chance I get. It's amazing how fast they get updates.

Nexus s?
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Not the greatest selection, but not the worst either. Likely where I will end up eventually.
http://www.credomobile.com/

So what do you suggest ?
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Wait 5 months and see what's available then.

Probably good idea I'm very antsy lol ill just need Roms on here
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Probably good idea I'm very antsy lol ill just need Roms on here
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Five months is also a lot of time for the development of ROMs. I'd check what phones are out in five months and also look at the dev community to see how active it is for each phone you are interested in.

I have an unnatural attraction for the Xperias right now. I might get the T on Att when my plan is up. Not really liking the LG Nexus if that is really what it going to be.

Everyone has been sh!tting on the LG nexus bc its an LG. Why? If you root it and throw on cm or something who cares if the stock ROM sucks? Its still impressive hardware to me anyway

I just wish it had a amoled screen

I would be all over the LG Optimus G or whatever it is called if it had a decent friggin camera. I can't believe how crappy the photos are on the 13MP camera are.
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Why even bother putting a 13MP camera in there if they aren't going to look any better than the pics my wife's OG Droid takes?
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Why oh why can't we get a Nokia on VZ with Android? That is my wish list. That is what will get me away from my DInc2. I don't see anything that actually takes significantly better photos that my DInc2 except for the iPhone right now.

The inc2 has an amazing camera which is another thing that has turned me off from other phones as well
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Optimus G Sells 1M Units?

Just saw this online. To be fair, this is probably 1M worldwide, but the phone has not yet been released in China or Europe, and that is still a not insignificant amount of handsets in the quarter or so since the release date. If they keep bringing premium handsets like the OG to market LG could easily knock HTC or Motorola out of their spot in the Android Ecosystem. Samsung is likely not to be moved from it's spot any time soon, but it's impressive for a company that the average consumer doesn't even consider when thinking of an Android phone. Maybe they should buy some airtime and run some commercials :silly:

I'm sure LG can make a mark on the smartphone market especially after this phone. When I first got my epic 4g, Samsung had a crap reputation in both their software and their updates. This was a time when HTC was the big player. On top of that, they now got the most active community, something else HTC had. If Samsung can rise out from the bottom like that, anyone can, they just gotta play their cards right.
Man time sure flies, I had that phone for 2 years and I chose the underdog again, lol.
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I actually followed the exact same path. I bought the epic because of its specs and because of its relative obscurity. Same reason I bought the OG.
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Xiutehcuhtli said:
I actually followed the exact same path. I bought the epic because of its specs and because of its relative obscurity. Same reason I bought the OG.
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I knew so many people who got the Optimus S.
It was free and a great phone. We had so much support for that little thing. I remember we even had ICS when we barely got GB from LG.
They took forever to release it and it was very buggy. So they had to release a downgrade back to Froyo.
I loved it and still working for my brother. 2+ years.
Now with the OG this phone is a beast. I almost never get a lag and games play well. I love the fact that it has 2GB ram so I could truely multitask. So if more people see why we got this phone than LG may put more support and even more people will like it, etc

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I'm sure LG can make a mark on the smartphone market especially after this phone. When I first got my epic 4g, Samsung had a crap reputation in both their software and their updates. This was a time when HTC was the big player. On top of that, they now got the most active community, something else HTC had. If Samsung can rise out from the bottom like that, anyone can, they just gotta play their cards right.
Man time sure flies, I had that phone for 2 years and I chose the underdog again, lol.
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Also had the epic. They have had one of the best development communities around. Hope this phone will get the same support. This phone is awesome if they can fix the signal issues. But remember when the epic first came out is when Samsung took on the nexus line. Same goes here for this phone. It should have a good future ahead of it.
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Also had the epic. They have had one of the best development communities around. Hope this phone will get the same support. This phone is awesome if they can fix the signal issues. But remember when the epic first came out is when Samsung took on the nexus line. Same goes here for this phone. It should have a good future ahead of it.
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Yeah we did have a great community. I miss my epic. I will try to get us sense, blur, xperia, and miui after cm. If lg would release Korean jb source, we could be almost at cm. Maybe firefox os, ubuntu for phones, and webos as well. Those are a bit more difficult though.
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Yeah we did have a great community. I miss my epic. I will try to get us sense, blur, xperia, and miui after cm. If lg would release Korean jb source, we could be almost at cm. Maybe firefox os, ubuntu for phones, and webos as well. Those are a bit more difficult though.
I trust my man xboxfanj, I always had a top notch experience with my Epic, and always had the latest release of Android on it. I have no doubt that the development for our OG will match any of the development for any other device out there.
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Yeah the Epic development was slow at first as well. We didn't get CM7 going til slightly before CM9 due to lack of source.

I actually think by lowering the price of this phone will be good for getting more units to users hands and in turn will create more developing.
I've been watching Ebay this past weekend and it seems unreal that one could land such a great phone like our OG for around $325.
It wouldn't be long before people realize how much more of a bargain it is to just pick up this phone over anything Sprint currently has to offer.
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LG Optimus G v. Samsung Galaxy Note II

I have had the opportunity to use both of these phones and I just wanted to take the time to discuss what I have found. This is purely for an informational basis for people who are average users who are trying to decide on a phone.
Which is easier to root?
I am not a developer but I have a few friends that are and they have always rooted my phones in the past. With both of these model's I choose to do everything myself an untrained noob if you will. The easier phone to root I would have to say is the Note II. Although developers have done a great job with the Optimus making it a one click a toolkit is literally idiot proof.
Development communuties?
Their is a distinct difference between both communities although the Note II has more development the developers are far more willing to work with you then the Note II devs. The LGOG wins hands down.
Overall phone performance on stock ROM?
LGOG wins hands down the Note is huge but that's not is biggest down fall. I love using my phone with one hand as do most who will read this so functionality is one challenge that the Note can not compete with. Although the Note 2 come out of the box with JB and the LGOG is still stuck on ICS it is also future proof as us the Note 2 but ICS is all hella fast!
I think the LGOG is the best phone for your money on Sprint! If you have any personal questions about the phones or anything like that just PM.
Thanks and I hope this helps anyone on the fence.
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Hello And thank you for your review. I want to add a little to what you wrote because you started on the consensus of the average user.
I am not writing this to Discredit anything you wrote..
So to try and Make My opinion as least Biased as possible I will leave the development Aspect aside - To even start to compare the number of Devs or even the development done on the devices is not only far out weighed by any Galaxy III/ Note 2, but there are also set conditions that played a Role in Development. A lot of that Has to Do with the Companies themselves.
Having literally owned every Top Sprint Device. I will start on more consumer based experience. To be quite honest even that will be hard for me to do so my post may be slightly opinionated as well.
More people are probably going to gravitate towards a galaxy product not only based on marketing ALONE FIRST AND FOREMOST.
Both LG And Sprint Spent Little Time marketing the Device. A big part of this has to do as to why there is a certain amount of development from one device to an other.
Elaborating on the stock Features and hardware of the devices having DONE NOTHING to both devices. To the average consumer again this is a superfine line. Again You can go by stock specs alone, but does that mean much to the true AVERAGE user who absolutely does nothing to there phone is going to notice any difference at all. To really be honest no the average user isn't going to even notice the hardware differences at all. In fact a average consumer may be not only drawn to a product alone for marketing but there are other trend factors. (I would not even began to compare stock camera performance!)(Removable Battery) ECT.
One may like the Optimus for the Build Quality/Looks/ ( Screen IPS Display, which again is Consumers opinion as to what picture looks better)
Strictly "consumer" again Customer service between both companies - "In My findings personally" I feel that Samsung reps have better customer service skills and product knowledge. ( Dont want to elaborate why, thats a page in it self 'Thats Why i said personally")
Software updates - Having an every top of the line Samsung android phone on sprint since the Moment - I have seen not only dev grow but Samsungs Commitment for updates! (Trust me it was BAD!) - Having LGs press release saying that it was to debut with JB - is a little let down! But lets hope its around the corner super soon! (im sure t is!!)
Having literally every top of the line android phone from SPRINT -from HTC ----LG...I would say this phone has its Niche with us NERDS!!!
THAT IS FINE WITH ME!!! I feel people appreciate this device for its sexiness and performance which only US NERDS can really understand and began to appreciate in this device!!
Again I dont mean to discredit what you wrote because it is valid and im sure many people feel the same. I was just trying to provide a more general over view.

You are fine I just love the opions I love the optimus g this was nothing against it. Love to see where development is going. I will be back on it soon!
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So no one has had the problems I've heard with the Optimus G? Like weak vibrate, poor phone call quality, poor signal, etc? I'm trying to decide which phone to switch to (I have the Note II but I think it's too big) and I thought the Optimus G would be a good phone to switch to, but I'm a bit worried because of all the problems I've been hearing about.
I'm all about the awesome hardware in the phone, but if the phone just doesn't work well then you can have all the processor speed you want and it'll still be a bad experience. :/

I have had uses with my mic (poor call quality) but it was different on different ROM's. Like the lifeless ROM so all was good.
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So a custom rom would help make it a better phone call experience?

My concern is your rooting method...
I have the optimus G and i can say, in terms of simplicity, rooting this device was the easiest device ever to root that I've had. seriously, like 7 commands in a terminal, a button press on the phone, and it rebooted with perm root. NOT difficult at all.

It helped mine
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A toolkit helps everyone, not saying it was hard to root tge LGOG but the toolkit is universal for all
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I just got my LGOG and I love it so far but I still can't decide if I want to keep it or swap it out for the note 2. The only thing that is making want to switch is the fact that there are way more roms and dev on the note than there is on the LGOG. I've always had HTC before and there is tons of dev over there. My question is do y'all think that that there will be more roms and etc. In the future? Or should I just switch to there note 2? I only have 3 days left to decide.
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What are you coming from? After using this screen I would find it hard to use the Note 2.
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I just got my LGOG and I love it so far but I still can't decide if I want to keep it or swap it out for the note 2. The only thing that is making want to switch is the fact that there are way more roms and dev on the note than there is on the LGOG. I've always had HTC before and there is tons of dev over there. My question is do y'all think that that there will be more roms and etc. In the future? Or should I just switch to there note 2? I only have 3 days left to decide.
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The roms will come, but there's no way im downgrading my hardware. Exy4412/Mali400 is last gen. The S4 pro has tons of potential and a bit more future proof.
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Everyone says once LG releases the Korean Jellybean source code there will be a ton of roms.
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No disrespect to the devs over at the sprint Note 2 but all of the roms look the same. Only ROM worth having is jellybomb rom. And CM10 is still at alpha stage.
The Note 2 is a great phone but it size become a shore to carry around. Trust me I had the phone and its size will becoming a pain in the ass at times.
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yohand said:
I just got my LGOG and I love it so far but I still can't decide if I want to keep it or swap it out for the note 2. The only thing that is making want to switch is the fact that there are way more roms and dev on the note than there is on the LGOG. I've always had HTC before and there is tons of dev over there. My question is do y'all think that that there will be more roms and etc. In the future? Or should I just switch to there note 2? I only have 3 days left to decide.
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honestly I went back to the LGOG the hardware is much and this phone can easily be turned into a nexus4 whats not to love
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So no one has had the problems I've heard with the Optimus G? Like weak vibrate, poor phone call quality, poor signal, etc? I'm trying to decide which phone to switch to (I have the Note II but I think it's too big) and I thought the Optimus G would be a good phone to switch to, but I'm a bit worried because of all the problems I've been hearing about.
I'm all about the awesome hardware in the phone, but if the phone just doesn't work well then you can have all the processor speed you want and it'll still be a bad experience. :/
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Sounds like you may have got a Dud..it happens!! My siganl is actually great-Voice quality..One of my biggest complaints about the phone is the screen believe it or not, i notice lines in the grays ..and isnt as clear as they make it seem. But in the sunlight this screen Rules!!!

Yeah I think I'm keeping the LGOG. This phone is pretty much the prefect size I think. I'm coming from an HTC sensation so going to they note would be a big size difference. Also I was using my friends note today and I think I just like this phone better. He even liked it better.
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I dont notice any lines in the grays but i get the dreaded overheat lcd dimming problem
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honestly I went back to the LGOG the hardware is much and this phone can easily be turned into a nexus4 whats not to love
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I thought someone said it really wasn't possible to turn this phone into a Nexus 4. Is that still true?

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I thought someone said it really wasn't possible to turn this phone into a Nexus 4. Is that still true?
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Why wouldn't it be possible? The number 1 difference between this phone and the Nexus 4 is software and software can be rewritten.
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The 18 Month Mark Is Almost Upon Us

Well we've got a little over a month to go before we hit that magical 18 month mark and the support cycle for our beloved nexii ends. Not that that matters a whole lot, but its a milestone nonetheless. Despite the ongoing battery struggles and some awful early (and sometimes reappearing) signal issues, I have to say that I've loved this phone, and at the end of the day it really did meet most most of my expectations. It can still handle pretty much everything you can throw at it, even at 18 months old, and that's not something you can say about a lot phones at this point in their life cycles. I did hate it while we were waiting for the first official radio update and 4.04, and even then I never really stopped thinking about selling it. But from the first JB update and since, I've been a happy camper and even turned down a family member's offer to buy me a full price Note 2 or DNA.
Interested to hear what other launch day or close-to-launch day purchasers would say about if and how it has lived up to their expectations.
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I have had my nexus since December 2011, not exactly launch day but that was the soonest I could get my hands on it in Canada. My experience in owning this device has been interesting. In the end I have realized what features I value more then others based on the nexus' downfalls. Some of these include radio strength, battery life, camera quality and of course software is still vital to me.
The 18 months is coming quickly upon us and our Galaxy nexus is probably only going to get one more official update and to be honest I'm fine with it, as this will give me extra reason to upgrade.
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Well I've had my nexus for about 8 months or so now. I did not upgrade when it first came out and stuck with the nexus s for a bit.
Then got the note 1 for a while. Then finally came over late last year cause I got tired of waiting on Samsung to release jellybean for the note 1.
Anyway... I can easily say this has been the best experience I've had with any handset. Never been happier.
Jellybean solved a lot of problems with the fluidity and speed of the already excellent android experience.
The handset itself is still a beauty too. I never get tired of those sexy curves and all clean black front end with no buttons!
The handset still runs well with no big issues. Games and apps load in an almost instant. Blazing fast still. I will keep it for a good while I think.
Will try and wait till the fall at least. See what the next nexus brings. Or that Motorola x phone.
The only thing I would change about the galaxy nexus would be more ram. It's the only small issue I have very rarely. Especially when using chrome with a few tabs open. It eats a lot of ram at times.
But all in all... This has been and still is an excellent handset. Love it
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I've had mine since launch day on Verizon, and I stuck with it after the fiasco of the launch date that was delayed and delayed. I wanted the nexus experience and I have enjoyed it for the most part, but Verizon has ruined some of the experience with their late updates and such. I will be keeping this phone as long as I can since I am grandfathered into the unlimited data so I don't want to upgrade. When it comes time to get a new phone, I hope I have the option to buy a nexus.
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^ y'all giving out stories like this device will die , this phone ain't going no where ! It will live forever !
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Did google said anything about that 18 month something? I think you're all being paranoid. Go ahead and flash something coz it looks like y'all need your medication.

I thought support ends after 2 years?

I/O is coming.
And I thought support was for 2 major Android versions. Like the Nexus S.
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I bought my Gnex used and I've had it about 9 months. I love the pure Google experience and it helped me survive to the end of my contract with VZW. I'm waiting to see if Google has something up their sleeve at I/O for a new Nexus phone. I'll probably go to the Nexus 4 or whatever they announce then and free myself from carrier crap. Though maybe I'll wait until my Gnex craps out first and buy a Nexus 10 to replace my aging Iconia A500. Anyway, I'm firm in the Nexus camp!

Going by past history, each nexus device is roughly supported for around 2 years, which means we might stop getting official updates at around october..

Mach3.2 said:
Going by past history, each nexus device is roughly supported for around 2 years, which means we might stop getting official updates at around october..
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Yeah this. Why does the OP not know that?

CADude said:
Yeah this. Why does the OP not know that?
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This coming from the king of making pointless attention mongering threads lol
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b1337 said:
This coming from the king of making pointless attention mongering threads lol
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How random. Do you follow me around or something?
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CADude said:
How random. Do you follow me around or something?
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No I just know how to read and have this thing called a memory
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b1337 said:
No I just know how to read and have this thing called a memory
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Sounds like you need more to do with your time.
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CADude said:
Sounds like you need more to do with your time.
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Sounds like you're as ignorant as your posts
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I am on my second Contract with verizon...my first 2 year contract had the OG droid, Droid X and HTC thunderbolt in there. this is the only phone i have had on the current contract. i Do have urges to get a used S3 and throw an AOSP ROM on it, but i still think i would miss my Nexus.
all of my phones, i have tried everything in my power to make it as close to a nexus device as possible....and now that i have a nexus device, i dont have to worry about it. it is always up to date, it is super smooth, i haven't run into any issues, the Community is EXACTLY what i wanted, and the phone is even more than what i wanted. a phone that is still smooth and fast 15 months after i bought it, i am simply amazed.
and this phone gets more and more exciting come these google events, because i know i will have what they announce later that day or the following one.

I've had this phone for over a year which is an eternity for me. I still enjoy it so I'm having trouble convincing myself to retire it which is good thing. Sure there's now faster phones with bigger screens and better hardware but this thing still holds its own.
My only hope now is that I accidentally break it to give me reason to replace it. Maybe then my wife will understand. :laugh:

bsinc1962 said:
I've had this phone for over a year which is an eternity for me. I still enjoy it so I'm having trouble convincing myself to retire it which is good thing. Sure there's now faster phones with bigger screens and better hardware but this thing still holds its own.
My only hope now is that I accidentally break it to give me reason to replace it. Maybe then my wife will understand. :laugh:
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Oh man! This is exactly how I feel. I'm tempted to buy the N4, but I feel guilty because my gnex still works perfectly. Also if I pull the trigger and buy the N4, I'm going to regret the decision by the end of this year when the next Nexus comes out.
I might just get drunk one day and make the purchase and blame alcohol for the decision!

lahin said:
Oh man! This is exactly how I feel. I'm tempted to buy the N4, but I feel guilty because my gnex still works perfectly. Also if I pull the trigger and buy the N4, I'm going to regret the decision by the end of this year when the next Nexus comes out.
I might just get drunk one day and make the purchase and blame alcohol for the decision!
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Exactly my thoughts too! If it works, why bother replacing it? I'm getting a Nexus tablet to satisfy that buying urge. I'll probably hold out until the Nextsus before I doing any phone upgrading.