So I'm currently very confused. I downloaded the app called CPU-Z to check out the internals of the G Pro and right up top it said that the chipset is the Snapdragon S4 Pro (keep in mind I'm using the AT&T model). I thought this must be an error of the app, seeing as I knew that the G Pro is supposed to have a Snapdragon 600 chip. I then went to both Antutu and Quadrant, and both stated that the phone has a Qualcomm QTC APQ8064 MTP processor, which I looked up and found is the S4 Pro from last year. I've always wondered why my G Pro tends to lag a bit and why benchmarks aren't as high as the One or the S4. Did I get fooled into thinking this device ran the Snapdragon 600?
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Where'd you find that?
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sportsinger75 said:
Where'd you find that?
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Here you go
http://m.att.com/shopmobile/wireless/devices/lg/optimus-g-pro-indigo.html?referrer=
The Snapdragon™ 600 (APQ8064T) is there.
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Thing is, the phone is not listing the "T" at the end of 8064. I'll upload a pic in a minute.
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Here's a screenshot... Keep in mind the phone only scores around 17000 in Antutu, indicative of S4 Pro scores.
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Here's a screenshot... Keep in mind the phone only scores around 17000 in Antutu, indicative of S4 Pro scores.
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Have you tried disabling thermal throttling ?
cynosure4sure said:
Have you tried disabling thermal throttling ?
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What is that, the battery saving Quad Core limiting feature? Yeah, did that. Still though, why is everything listing the device as having an S4 Pro?
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there"s a lot of confusion about that..... I"ve tried cpu-z and its the same to you....it tell that I"ve the s4 pro...QUALCOMM told that its very the snapdragon 600 who"s inside!! in fact they"re are the same except that the gpu is overclocked at 500mhz instead of 400 for the s4 pro...this is what I have read on the web
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just made an antutu test minutes ago...and had 24655 so it confirm that its really a snapdragon 600
CPU-Z stating a CPU frequency of 387 MHz and AnTuTu stating a CPU frequency of 384 MHz.
I have the AT&T version purchased 3 days ago.
Should I be at 500 MHz?
Also, CPU-Z showing S4 Pro processor.
So what's the deal?
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martinezma99 said:
CPU-Z stating a CPU frequency of 387 MHz and AnTuTu stating a CPU frequency of 384 MHz.
I have the AT&T version purchased 3 days ago.
Should I be at 500 MHz?
Also, CPU-Z showing S4 Pro processor.
So what's the deal?
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Apparently no one knows. I've tried researching but couldn't find anything so I came to this forum. To me, it makes sense that the phone runs last year's S4 Pro like all the benchmarks say, due to the fact that the phone is quite laggy in daily use and scores very low compared to the Galaxy S4 and HTC One in benchmarks, both of which definitely have Snapdragon 600 processors.
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And here's the CPU Z results from my Galaxy S4, clearly stating that the app knows the difference between the S4 Pro and the Snapdragon 600... The Optimus G Pro does NOT have a Snapdragon 600 processor. Bummer.
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Apparently no one knows. I've tried researching but couldn't find anything so I came to this forum. To me, it makes sense that the phone runs last year's S4 Pro like all the benchmarks say, due to the fact that the phone is quite laggy in daily use and scores very low compared to the Galaxy S4 and HTC One in benchmarks, both of which definitely have Snapdragon 600 processors.
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24k Antutu low?
Maybe still cpu z bug, check comment at Playstore
Many people have no accurate CPU
Ex: One V = Snapdragon S1, it should be Snap S2
Nexus 4 S600, it should be S4 pro
And post your antutu after disable thermal throttling
Cpu z reports incorrect processor on many models. Att site specs clearly state it has the snapdragon 600 8064t. The clock is at 1.7 which matches the recommended clock for the sd 600. I would not be so quick to think LG would lie about the phones components.
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24k Antutu low?
Maybe still cpu z bug, check comment at Playstore
Many people have no accurate CPU
Ex: One V = Snapdragon S1, it should be Snap S2
Nexus 4 S600, it should be S4 pro
And post your antutu after disable thermal throttling
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Lol, I never said 24k was low. I mentioned that the G Pro was consistently not meeting anything close to that, as it scored more in the 17k range consistently, which is more indicative of the Snapdragon S4.
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Apparently no one knows. I've tried researching but couldn't find anything so I came to this forum. To me, it makes sense that the phone runs last year's S4 Pro like all the benchmarks say, due to the fact that the phone is quite laggy in daily use and scores very low compared to the Galaxy S4 and HTC One in benchmarks, both of which definitely have Snapdragon 600 processors.
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Could you share your results in benchmarks with us? Because our benches http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2085915&page=3 show definitely results on par with HTC1 or just little bit lower than [email protected]
CPU-Z shows APQ8064 on mine GPro too. But according to benchmarks I'm pretty shure I have Snap600, and it's a bug in CPU-Z database, not a faulty phone
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as it scored more in the 17k range consistently, which is more indicative of the Snapdragon S4.
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No, it just indicates that throttling caps the frequency more aggressively than on HTC1 or SGS4 so to G Pro not to get as hot as them. The same was with Nexus4, it throttled sooner than, say, ASUS Padfone2 and got lower scores in all benchmarks
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And here's the CPU Z results from my Galaxy S4, clearly stating that the app knows the difference between the S4 Pro and the Snapdragon 600... The Optimus G Pro does NOT have a Snapdragon 600 processor. Bummer.
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Where are they?
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What is that, the battery saving Quad Core limiting feature? Yeah, did that. Still though, why is everything listing the device as having an S4 Pro?
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No. Apperantly you not tried to read the forum before starting question topic. Read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2296447
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Apparently no one knows. I've tried researching but couldn't find anything so I came to this forum. To me, it makes sense that the phone runs last year's S4 Pro like all the benchmarks say, due to the fact that the phone is quite laggy in daily use and scores very low compared to the Galaxy S4 and HTC One in benchmarks, both of which definitely have Snapdragon 600 processors.
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Not sure where your lag is coming from or why you have it. I suffer from no lag at all. Smoothest phone ive owned or played with so far. Maybe try a system wipe and reset on your unit. Do you have 19000 widgets open?
How about using this?
Never hurts to get a second opinion:
CPU/RAM/DEVICE identifier app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Bfield.CpuIdentifier&hl=en
CPU-Z reports Exynos 4412 as ARM9 but this app is better so...................
do post your results :cyclops:
Maybe this will solve the questions.
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Are they just overclocking the Sprint version? http://www.technobuffalo.com/tag/galaxy-nexus/
i really hope they get a qualcomm version and just took a higher advertised clock speed over real life performance, i will never be using a snapdragon processor again, at least if their still using adreno
Its an ad, and its probably wrong.
Guess well find out soon enough. I won't be going back to Sprint till LTE is in my area.
I agree, I think its the ad that's wrong
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its all marketing to get customers back on thier junk network!
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i really hope they get a qualcomm version and just took a higher advertised clock speed over real life performance, i will never be using a snapdragon processor again, at least if their still using adreno
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What do you have against adreno?
My grandma beat me down and took my nexus. Sent from a jitterbug with beats by dre.
I don't think their LTE is launching until Q2 and by that time it'd be rather foolish it buy it considering the SGS3 should be out by then and a new Nexus would probably be less than 6 months away.
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Samsung Galaxy Nexus Epic Touch 4G LTE
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Our CPU is rated for 1.5 but Google decided to UV the clock for battery life. Different carriers pay for different options so its not surprising that sprint would try and be different. They have to because there network is like a big long turd that wraps around the toilet
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Does anyone have a guess on why they went with Texas instruments processor over samsungs exynos processor? Thanks in advance
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They used OMAP4460 in the VZW version as Exynos doesn't like LTE at all. That's why the US version of the SGS2 is Snapdragon instead of Exynos. As for the GSM version, I'm guessing because they couldn't be bothered using anything better.
Thanks bud! So our verizon version has a different and better chip set?
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I wonder what they would call it ... Lol
Samsung Galaxy Nexus Epic Touch 4G LTE
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No. Samsung Galaxy Nexus touch 4G LTE epic fail.
My grandma beat me down and took my nexus. Sent from a jitterbug with beats by dre.
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Thanks bud! So our verizon version has a different and better chip set?
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No? They all have the same chipset.
cordell507 said:
i really hope they get a qualcomm version and just took a higher advertised clock speed over real life performance, i will never be using a snapdragon processor again, at least if their still using adreno
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Whats wrong with Adreno, you do know that adreno 220 is faster than gpu used in GN right?
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Does anyone have a guess on why they went with Texas instruments processor over samsungs exynos processor? Thanks in advance
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Being a Nexus device, Google likes spreading the love. Nexus One had Snapdragon, Nexus S had Hummingbird, Xoom (not Nexus, but closely supported by Google) had Tegra, GNex has TI. Next up, who knows... But they certainly seem to like broadening the amount of chipsets they support more than they're focusing on raw performance.
Here sprint has some serious data issues. So bad tha AT&T is faster on edge much of the time. They could release a 2ghz version and i still wouldn't go back to them. I'm sure that it is likely worse now with the iphone.
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Our CPU is rated for 1.5 but Google decided to UV the clock for battery life. Different carriers pay for different options so its not surprising that sprint would try and be different. They have to because there network is like a big long turd that wraps around the toilet
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Just to set your story straight....
The SoC is rated for UP to 1.5 GHz. This doesn't mean that our chips are in fact rated for operation at 1.5 GHz. Take some time and search the dev threads about this. It's a pretty big misconception regarding the 4460. Not all 4460's are in fact the same (apparently). Did Samsung/Google underclock these chips? Slightly, but as you will see, these chips will not in fact (generally) hit clockrates higher than 1.4 GHz. The general thought is that there is an issue with the clock generator for 1.5 GHz and higher, which causes the problem.
The GN for Sprint will have the same problems, and will probably be a PR nightmare now.....especially when users find out that their GN only runs at 1.2 GHz.
Sprint version probably has different SoC.
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I have to say I am very imppressed by this phones processor out of every phone I had exynos is the best.I had the lg optimus g and couldnt deal with the random force closes and laginess. Best processor ever leave your comments on thid beast ass processor
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Hmm. I have the Optimus g too but I feel that it is a lot more faster than the note 2 I also have. Funny how everyone's experience is different
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Maknora said:
Hmm. I have the Optimus g too but I feel that it is a lot more faster than the note 2 I also have. Funny how everyone's experience is different
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Your spell checker seems to be better as well
funnycreature said:
Your spell checker seems to be better as well
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more better
Haha thanks. I really just like the Optimus g.
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This phone has been silky smooth and gobbled up everything I've thrown at it. I was shocked at how much faster it is than my Nexus 7, and certainly faster than my Skyrocket.
The only thing that drives me nuts about the processor is the wake lag every time I turn it on from deep sleep. I'll learn to live with it, but this phone would be almost perfect if that were fixed (not including software tweaks).
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This phone has been silky smooth and gobbled up everything I've thrown at it. I was shocked at how much faster it is than my Nexus 7, and certainly faster than my Skyrocket.
The only thing that drives me nuts about the processor is the wake lag every time I turn it on from deep sleep. I'll learn to live with it, but this phone would be almost perfect if that were fixed (not including software tweaks).
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Yea well reducing the processor to that low of a clock speed is partly responsible for the crazy ass battery life of this phone. I'd rather have another millisecond of unlock time and gain several hours of battery life. Fine with me.
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i dunno about that... the Snapdragon S4 Pro is quite a beast... it's technically faster than this exynos...
i bet it comes down to software and how well it works with the hardware
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i dunno about that... the Snapdragon S4 Pro is quite a beast... it's technically faster than this exynos...
i bet it comes down to software and how well it works with the hardware
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Look at the Engadget review of the Nexus 4. The note 2 (exynos) beat the snapdragon s4 pro in 4/6 benchmarks and they felt like the exy was better in normal use and battery efficiency. Just look up Nexus 4 review on engadget- Nexus 4,Optimus G, note 2 are all compared. Look at the benchmark table. Note 2 wins 4/6.
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I love the power and speed of my note.... But seriously, benchmarks mean nothing to me. It's real life usage that matters. . Not an app that measures potential.
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I've never seen any huge advantage of the Exynos processors over any others, mainly because they are just stock ARM designs. If Samsung wanted to impress me, they would pay for an architecture license. The A6 is pretty hard to beat, given the performance AND battery life, and I really like my S4 Pro, although it is a bit of a juice hog.
The exynos is a heavily modified arm design, and apples a6 is very very similar to it.
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i dunno about that... the Snapdragon S4 Pro is quite a beast... it's technically faster than this exynos...
i bet it comes down to software and how well it works with the hardware
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That's why you see iphones perform very well despite the specs looking like they are lacking. The iphone 5 after playing with it is just as fast as my Note 2 but it's only dual core and clocked much lower. RAM is also lower.
Pretty sure the reason the a6 is as smooth or smother with lower specs is due to software optimization and the fact it uses 3 core gpu ( which everyone seems to leave out when they make these statements). That is where apple has done good.
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...The only thing that drives me nuts about the processor is the wake lag every time I turn it on from deep sleep. I'll learn to live with it, but this phone would be almost perfect if that were fixed (not including software tweaks).
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How long of a lag are you talking about? Are you sure it's not the home button lag from S Voice being enabled?
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Pretty sure the reason the a6 is as smooth or smother with lower specs is due to software optimization and the fact it uses 3 core gpu ( which everyone seems to leave out when they make these statements). That is where apple has done good.
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One area Apple has excelled in is GPU performance. I'm surprised Samsung doesn't push the limits in this area harder. I don't play games much myself but as you said it goes beyond just playing your favorite games on a phone.
Nexus 4 <3
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exynos is king right now (i'm ignoring apple, since it's not apples-to-apples, excuse the pun). exynos 5 is going to be ridiculous. actually it already is, inside the samsung chromebook.
Normally id say cant wait for the note 3 with the quad xenyos 5, but im happy with the note 2, and I hope they wait a year before releasing it. No more 6 month life cycles please
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The exynos is a heavily modified arm design, and apples a6 is very very similar to it.
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No, not even close. A6/A6X are heavily modified ARM, and Exynos is just tweaked stock. Samsung doesn't have the architecture license, last I checked. Apple does.
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I won a new Galaxy Note 2 of ebay.
The description it had was a Samsung T889 T Mobile Note 2. The only problem is that several different system/speed tests indicates it has a ARMv7 quad core processor. I thought all Note 2s had which is the Exynos Quad 1.6. My speed tests are a lot slower.
Did I just get a fake? I need to two report this to Ebay if that's the case
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I won a new Galaxy Note 2 of ebay.
The description it had was a Samsung T889 T Mobile Note 2. The only problem is that several different system/speed tests indicates it has a ARMv7 quad core processor. I thought all Note 2s had which is the Exynos Quad 1.6. My speed tests are a lot slower.
Did I just get a fake? I need to two report this to Ebay if that's the case
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The galaxy note 2 does use an ARMv7 processor, aka ARM Cortex-A9, aka Exynos 4 Quad, aka Exynos 4412.
Okay, didn't know that. Thank you for clarifying.
Something just doesn't seem right about it though. I got a white case, but black spen. This guy I bought it from also deals in a lot of Chinese products/toys, etc.
Check out a couple of reviews on Youtube and the like.
If you're still in doubt, upload a few pictures (don't forget to blank out your IMEI) and we'll have a look.
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Check out a couple of reviews on Youtube and the like.
If you're still in doubt, upload a few pictures (don't forget to blank out your IMEI) and we'll have a look.
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I've called Tmobile and Samsung -- both verified the IMEI was good but didn't know anything about the processor/memory aspect. So I took a screenshot of some CPU/RAM information. It was that infamous SMDK4x12 that doesn't tell you if it's a full quad processor or not. Plus the system storage only shows 1.72GB of RAM vs. the 2GB that I thought Tmobile T889 phones were supposed to have. Then there's the ARMv7 processor vesus the 1.6 GHz Exynos 4412 that I thought Note 2's were supposed to have.
I've attached a screenshot of what I'm trying to convey. I'm thinking this is a very, very clever clone.
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I've called Tmobile and Samsung -- both verified the IMEI was good but didn't know anything about the processor/memory aspect. So I took a screenshot of some CPU/RAM information. It was that infamous SMDK4x12 that doesn't tell you if it's a full quad processor or not. Plus the system storage only shows 1.72GB of RAM vs. the 2GB that I thought Tmobile T889 phones were supposed to have. Then there's the ARMv7 processor vesus the 1.6 GHz Exynos 4412 that I thought Note 2's were supposed to have.
I've attached a screenshot of what I'm trying to convey. I'm thinking this is a very, very clever clone.
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You're funny.
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You're funny.
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No, really. Is this a good fake? The processor speeds don't match up and they don't use the same processor. I'm also not able to register the phone on Samsung. Only the IMEI has checked out which I understand can be duplicated. When I put the IMEI into www.imei.info , it comes back with an old Nokia clam shell phone.
So seriously, is this legit?
Internal storage, memory, and processor all check out. Doesn't seem fake
The exynos 4412 processor in the note 2 is an ARMv7 cpu clocked at 1.6GHz. Also the RAM is 2GB not the system storage. And you still wouldn't get the full 2GB due to part of it being reserved for the OS.
Thanks all. I was just concerned about how it came with the wrong color stylus, benchmark tests weren't as fast and not knowing about the processor. I've been scammed once on a North Face jacket that I don't want repeated! :good:
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Thanks all. I was just concerned about how it came with the wrong color stylus, benchmark tests weren't as fast and not knowing about the processor. I've been scammed once on a North Face jacket that I don't want repeated! :good:
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What app did you use in the screenshot you posted earlier?
No worries you are good, I don't think you got scammed at all...
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What app did you use in the screenshot you posted earlier?
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No app, just a screenshot from a benchmark tester (Antutu)
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No worries you are good, I don't think you got scammed at all...
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Good deal -- just wanted to make sure. Weird the wrong color pen was in there....
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Good deal -- just wanted to make sure. Weird the wrong color pen was in there....
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My wife and I got the Note 2's the day they came out from a corporate T Mobile store. I got titanium grey and she got white, we didn't even realize it until we got home that her I Spen was the Spen for the titanium grey phones it actually came that way from the factory. Mistakes happen if you got the phone sealed it could be the same situation my wife was in, if it was not sealed he could have possibly lost the original one and replaced replaced it and then filed to put it in the description.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hotdog.truth
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Looks legit to me
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I've called Tmobile and Samsung -- both verified the IMEI was good but didn't know anything about the processor/memory aspect. So I took a screenshot of some CPU/RAM information. It was that infamous SMDK4x12 that doesn't tell you if it's a full quad processor or not. Plus the system storage only shows 1.72GB of RAM vs. the 2GB that I thought Tmobile T889 phones were supposed to have. Then there's the ARMv7 processor vesus the 1.6 GHz Exynos 4412 that I thought Note 2's were supposed to have.
I've attached a screenshot of what I'm trying to convey. I'm thinking this is a very, very clever clone.
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Just to clarify, the Samsung Exynos 4412 Quad that powers the Galaxy Note II is based on the ARM Cortex A9 reference design. The 'ARMv7' you see refers to the instruction set of the processor.
Hopefully this article can explain things in great enough detail for you but suffice it to say that, from what we can tell, you indeed have a genuine Galaxy Note II. Congrats and enjoy!
Lmao mine comes up as a Samsung f250
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Don't put much faith in those imei check sites. My N7100 was reported by one site as dumb phone from 2005 but a different site reported it as a N7100.
It may be a noob question, but why does our device OC'd higher than other devices not outperform newer phones like the s4 or HTC One? Are there other factors that weigh in or is it Sammy doing something we can't undo?
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Different CPU architectures, and other parts so you cannot compare mhz vs mhz. Also depends on what you are testing exactly.
Outperformed by what comparison ???
Too many variables exist to compare anything. ..and benchmark scores do not count. ..
The best device is the one users enjoy the most. ...not the one that boasts about being "better" than it's rival competition. ..That is a marketing campaign. ..
The note 2 is not designed to be the main stream power phone. ..it is a unique niche device with nothing less than impressive specifications. ....and regardless of what the competition says, will run exceptionally well against any devices on the market who share the same production time frame, and similar hardware/software......g
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Outperformed by what comparison ???
Too many variables exist to compare anything. ..and benchmark scores do not count. ..
The best device is the one users enjoy the most. ...not the one that boasts about being "better" than it's rival competition. ..That is a marketing campaign. ..
The note 2 is not designed to be the main stream power phone. ..it is a unique niche device with nothing less than impressive specifications. ....and regardless of what the competition says, will run exceptionally well against any devices on the market who share the same production time frame, and similar hardware/software......g
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Note 2 is a power house its enjoyable. Any more power is just bragging right from here on out. For oc it has to do with heat dispensing, voltage the archatech the NM of the chip and of course software.
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raynan said:
It may be a noob question, but why does our device OC'd higher than other devices not outperform newer phones like the s4 or HTC One? Are there other factors that weigh in or is it Sammy doing something we can't undo?
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Just out of curiosity, by what measure is the S4 or HTC 1 outperforming the Note 2?
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Just out of curiosity, by what measure is the S4 or HTC 1 outperforming the Note 2?
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I know I'm going to get some heat for this, but quadrant scores are around 12750 whereas my note 2 has topped at around 8500...I'm not saying I can't do anything less on our device; I do enjoy having the highest performance of anything out there
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Your problem is that you're equating quadrant score with sheer performance. It's no like a dynometer that gives a accurate reading. Ie - if you took a brand new sports car and put it on a dyno it would spit out nearly identical hp and torque numbers test after test, but if you ran quadrant test after test you would get varying scores. I've had score differences of up to 400 points when I ran the test back to back. The same with antutu.
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Your problem is that you're equating quadrant score with sheer performance. It's no like a dynometer that gives a accurate reading. Ie - if you took a brand new sports car and put it on a dyno it would spit out nearly identical hp and torque numbers test after test, but if you ran quadrant test after test you would get varying scores. I've had score differences of up to 400 points when I ran the test back to back. The same with antutu.
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Haha, like I said, I knew I'd get get heat for that, and I realize benchmarks aren't the most accurate way of determining power and performance...but I do like the bragging rights of saying that mine is numerically higher. I know it's kind of wrong, but it's also fun to mess with the settings and find what combos get the best results which led me to this post. I was also more curious as to why even though our device clocked higher with otherwise similar specs still don't match up.
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There are too many variables in determining why your core running at 1.8 isn't outperforming another core running at 1.6.
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There are too many variables in determining why your core running at 1.8 isn't outperforming another core running at 1.6.
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I'm talking more about why our quad running at 2GHz is much lower than a quad running at 1.7 with completely different governers and other tweaks?
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You're asking the same question that I just answered. It doesn't matter the number of cores or the mH it's clocked at. There are too many variables to figure it out. Think about the different frameworks, the numerous system processes running, the apps installed, system apps, settings, tweaks... If you had identical devices running all the same stuff you would still get varying results.
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raynan said:
I'm talking more about why our quad running at 2GHz is much lower than a quad running at 1.7 with completely different governers and other tweaks?
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Its not so much the cpu that is the biggest change in quadrant its in the power of the gpu that the note 2 has a mali 400 while some models of the S4 have much more powerful gpu's
Does that even matter in Quadrant? If you have a device with vsync off then it will score much higher in GPU than the Note 2 with Vsync.
Also, if you are going to only focus on Benchmarks to compare, at least use a more decent test or various tests to get a broader perspective like 3DMark, Antutu and Vellamo.
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You're asking the same question that I just answered. It doesn't matter the number of cores or the mH it's clocked at. There are too many variables to figure it out. Think about the different frameworks, the numerous system processes running, the apps installed, system apps, settings, tweaks... If you had identical devices running all the same stuff you would still get varying results.
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But shouldn't they be in a similar range? Forgive me for the repetition, I just want to know a little more about the way this works.
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I think we have been pretty clear already so not sure what you are not understanding.
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I think we have been pretty clear already so not sure what you are not understanding.
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I think we have been pretty clear already so not sure what you are not understanding.
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I do understand now. I'm just being clear. My apologies.
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Hi,
I have seen YouTube review about real racing 3 which runs smoothly on that Galaxy note 4 however this game is laggy on my Verizon note 4, don't if this is common or snapdragon slower than Samsung Exynox? I am sure the power saving is set to off
Anyone else experience same issue?
Yep, laggy on mine.
Did you happen to force gpu rendering under the development tab?
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Did you happen to force gpu rendering under the development tab?
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nope, I did not. want to know if this is only for my Verizon note 4 or it happends to all ohter note 4 models.
Real racing 3? I can certainly try and post back results.
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Real racing 3? I can certainly try and post back results.
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Yep, RR3. looking forward to your test results : )
BTW, I just tested the game with power saving mode--restrict performance turned on, and the performance was similar to power saving mode off. So could it be a bug that the restrict performance is set to on by default?
how many FPS ? there are no problem with other games ?
AT&T note 4 here game runs awful compared to my note pro it's slow and choppy and acts like it's running on an outdated processor.
install GameBench you will see the CPU and GPU is not overload, so i guess, it's the game that is not optimized or compatible with the 805 processor
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install GameBench you will see the CPU and GPU is not overload, so i guess, it's the game that is not optimized or compatible with the 805 processor
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Any idea how to identify the resolution that the game is running on? if it is 2560X1440 then no surprise the game is laggy
i read that can be caused by the DVFS (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2674928)
RR3, has been running flawless on my note 4 DE. Played a good solid 2 hours yesterday... Its my mobile version of Forza...
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RR3, has been running flawless on my note 4 DE. Played a good solid 2 hours yesterday... Its my mobile version of Forza...
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Maybe that's why Verizon has this develop edition? The regular version limited the CPU/GPU power?
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Maybe that's why Verizon has this develop edition? The regular version limited the CPU/GPU power?
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where can we get this version to test it ?
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Maybe that's why Verizon has this develop edition? The regular version limited the CPU/GPU power?
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I highly doubt it. Pretty sure specs are same in each. I guess they could of underclocked it for us but doubt it. If they did, battery life would be better in our retail note 4s.
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I highly doubt it. Pretty sure specs are same in each. I guess they could of underclocked it for us but doubt it. If they did, battery life would be better in our retail note 4s.
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Just found a review on www.frandroid.com, it is in France but basically it says the CPU and GPU performance is not stable, While the CPU speed was lowered from 2.7Ghz to 1Ghz after a few minutes the GPU also dropped from 600Mhz to 200MHz. It was tested on RR3 and NOVA 3, and the game was found out rendering in full HD and upscaled to QHD. This is even slower than the LG G3 which features a Snapdragon 801 chip and which the same two games were running on QHD...
"http://www.frandroid.com/marques/samsung/247928_test-du-samsung-galaxy-note-4-snapdragon-805-ecran-qhd-s-pen-ameliore-trio-gagnant"
Anyway to unlock the 'true performance' of Snapdragon 805 on note 4?