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GN GPU ?? does it sux ?

Hallo. Just simple question...
Does GPU in galaxy nexus SUX? (vs galaxy note or galaxy S2)
Or is it just in software ?
Thx

No
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Plays Osmos HD like butter. I would have to agree, the gpu certainly DOES NOT SUX.

it r not teh sux

but it is using 20 months old GPU from nexus S isnt it ? i think its killing this super phone

New topic: OP's grammar; does it sux?
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Smabbage said:
Plays Osmos HD like butter. I would have to agree, the gpu certainly DOES NOT SUX.
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Beatiful game indeed. I'm a fan already.

Checked GPU performance vs the S2.
It is slightly worse than the S2, but that does not mean that
it is bad.
Still able to play heavy rendering games so I aint complaining.

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New topic: OP's grammar; does it sux?
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stop starting flame english is not my mother language

Wow, never seen this thread subject before.

Sramie said:
stop starting flame english is not my mother language
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Is there any language that properly uses the word sux?

its slang..

Sramie said:
but it is using 20 months old GPU from nexus S isnt it ? i think its killing this super phone
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Certainly not killing the phone at all. Just because it isn't the latest GPU on the market, doesn't mean it's not good at what it does.
The GNEX GPU is fine. I have yet to find a game that struggles to run.

thanks man. you cut stone from my heart

another beat the dead horse topic but i'll kick it again. i think google picked the best gpu for this phone for all the right reasons. i there are 2? better gpu's currently and soon if not already a 3rd? the ps vita is about to come out with sgx 543mp4, which has 4 cores, compared to the iphone4s/ipad2's 543mp2 of only 2 cores. look at how awesome the battery life is of the nexus compared to many many other androids and the iphone 4s. i think it has a lot to do with the whole package, including OMAP"s superb SOC, but the 543mp2 would've been overkill and a battery hog. heck the 543mp2 is overkill for the iphone.

[Q] How is Gaming on at&t galaxy s3

i'm thinking of getting the galaxy s3 (us version) because, i bricked my old phone so i need a new one. my old phone would run games like gta3, max payne, nova3 with lag. I was thinking that because the phone is currently the best phone you can own, it should be able to play games quite easily,BUT i have heard some people say that they got lag on some games, or gameloft games said that the device isn't compatible with the game, so i was wondering what is your personal experience, because gaming so actually pretty important to me :fingers-crossed:
P.S. The only reason i'm not getting the international version is because its out of my price range:crying:, i really don't care about LTE

I have been playing some very high end games with zero lag. The s3 is a great choice for gaming.
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uplifted6 said:
I have been playing some very high end games with zero lag. The s3 is a great choice for gaming.
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thanks i just wanted to be sure before i bought the phone, and i'm sure after i root it and overclock it, it will be a beast.
Also is the white galaxy s3 hard to keep clean? Because i have heard people say that white phones get dirty easily

I have a white one and it's just like anything else. I haven't noticed it being any dirtier than say a blue one.
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uplifted6 said:
I have a white one and it's just like anything else. I haven't noticed it being any dirtier than say a blue one.
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what carrier do you have? and how is the web browsing speed? One main probable i had with my current phone was that unless the brightness setting was maxed out, i couldn't use it outdoors? How is multitasking because with 2gb ram it should work flawlessly?How is battery life? i got to highschool so for the first 8 hours of the day i don't use it, and the rest of the day i play some games and listen to music, i don't mind having to charge it every night.

Shadowgun, riptide, and desert winds all play great. I have the tmobile version but they're all the same performance wise. Having two GB's of memory is awesome too. I multitasks like a boss and you never have to worry about backing out of anything.

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Shadowgun, riptide, and desert winds all play great. I have the tmobile version but they're all the same performance wise. Having two GB's of memory is awesome too. I multitasks like a boss and you never have to worry about backing out of anything.
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thanks what about gta3, mass effect, nova3

NOVA 3 is not compatible right now at least. But hopefully soon. Mass Effect used to be not compatible too but now it is. Mass Effect looks and plays good. Dead Trigger looks good too.

davidstech11 said:
NOVA 3 is not compatible right now at least. But hopefully soon. Mass Effect used to be not compatible too but now it is. Mass Effect looks and plays good. Dead Trigger looks good too.
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thanks, in august when my sprint contract runs out i'm going to switch to at&t at get the s3

davidstech11 said:
NOVA 3 is not compatible right now at least. But hopefully soon. Mass Effect used to be not compatible too but now it is. Mass Effect looks and plays good. Dead Trigger looks good too.
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+1 Dead trigger looks great and plays smooth when cranking up the quality to high.

The Sprint GS3 also does a great job at gaming
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do you think gaming wise the international version does better or the same?

i have heard people reporting that gaming is much better with the international version because of the 4cores

Looks like Nova 3 is compatible now. I checked today and its available for i747 at least. Plays well !
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What games did you play?
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contradude said:
The Sprint GS3 also does a great job at gaming
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blue265 said:
Looks like Nova 3 is compatible now. I checked today and its available for i747 at least. Plays well !
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I think as time goes by more games will become compatible, most games aren't even optimized for 4cores so that's where we have the advantage, and yet some how the i93000 make the games work even better than the SGH-I747
P.S What the difference between the SGH-I747 and the SGH-I747M?
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Hardware wise, there is absolutely no difference between i747 and i747m. Its exactly the same as At&t model. The software is really the only difference and offered by the Canadian carriers.
The i9300 gpu is probably what makes the games run like butter. The Mali outperforms the adreno from what I've read. I'm not sure if quad core would do much other than decrease loading times. If I still had my i9300 I would have compared nova 3 on both. But chose to sell it to get the LTE version. Now I find out that I can't play multiplayer over LTE on nova 3 any workaround ? It looks for wifi only for multiplayer
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Mostly shadowgun at the moment although I'm going to get dead trigger soon
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blue265 said:
Hardware wise, there is absolutely no difference between i747 and i747m. Its exactly the same as At&t model. The software is really the only difference and offered by the Canadian carriers.
The i9300 gpu is probably what makes the games run like butter. The Mali outperforms the adreno from what I've read. I'm not sure if quad core would do much other than decrease loading times. If I still had my i9300 I would have compared nova 3 on both. But chose to sell it to get the LTE version. Now I find out that I can't play multiplayer over LTE on nova 3 any workaround ? It looks for wifi only for multiplayer
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Thanks your answer was really helpful!!! and I think that the you can't use LTE for multiplayer on ANY games , I think you can only play multiplayer using wifi, I think it has something to do with the fact it would be overload in the cell towers, plus since different company's use different wave lengths, u would only be able to connect to pleople who are the same network.
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Best processor ever

I have to say I am very imppressed by this phones processor out of every phone I had exynos is the best.I had the lg optimus g and couldnt deal with the random force closes and laginess. Best processor ever leave your comments on thid beast ass processor
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Hmm. I have the Optimus g too but I feel that it is a lot more faster than the note 2 I also have. Funny how everyone's experience is different
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Maknora said:
Hmm. I have the Optimus g too but I feel that it is a lot more faster than the note 2 I also have. Funny how everyone's experience is different
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Your spell checker seems to be better as well

funnycreature said:
Your spell checker seems to be better as well
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more better

Haha thanks. I really just like the Optimus g.
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This phone has been silky smooth and gobbled up everything I've thrown at it. I was shocked at how much faster it is than my Nexus 7, and certainly faster than my Skyrocket.
The only thing that drives me nuts about the processor is the wake lag every time I turn it on from deep sleep. I'll learn to live with it, but this phone would be almost perfect if that were fixed (not including software tweaks).

Jrockttu said:
This phone has been silky smooth and gobbled up everything I've thrown at it. I was shocked at how much faster it is than my Nexus 7, and certainly faster than my Skyrocket.
The only thing that drives me nuts about the processor is the wake lag every time I turn it on from deep sleep. I'll learn to live with it, but this phone would be almost perfect if that were fixed (not including software tweaks).
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Yea well reducing the processor to that low of a clock speed is partly responsible for the crazy ass battery life of this phone. I'd rather have another millisecond of unlock time and gain several hours of battery life. Fine with me.
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i dunno about that... the Snapdragon S4 Pro is quite a beast... it's technically faster than this exynos...
i bet it comes down to software and how well it works with the hardware

ShadowVlican said:
i dunno about that... the Snapdragon S4 Pro is quite a beast... it's technically faster than this exynos...
i bet it comes down to software and how well it works with the hardware
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Look at the Engadget review of the Nexus 4. The note 2 (exynos) beat the snapdragon s4 pro in 4/6 benchmarks and they felt like the exy was better in normal use and battery efficiency. Just look up Nexus 4 review on engadget- Nexus 4,Optimus G, note 2 are all compared. Look at the benchmark table. Note 2 wins 4/6.
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I love the power and speed of my note.... But seriously, benchmarks mean nothing to me. It's real life usage that matters. . Not an app that measures potential.
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I've never seen any huge advantage of the Exynos processors over any others, mainly because they are just stock ARM designs. If Samsung wanted to impress me, they would pay for an architecture license. The A6 is pretty hard to beat, given the performance AND battery life, and I really like my S4 Pro, although it is a bit of a juice hog.

The exynos is a heavily modified arm design, and apples a6 is very very similar to it.
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ShadowVlican said:
i dunno about that... the Snapdragon S4 Pro is quite a beast... it's technically faster than this exynos...
i bet it comes down to software and how well it works with the hardware
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That's why you see iphones perform very well despite the specs looking like they are lacking. The iphone 5 after playing with it is just as fast as my Note 2 but it's only dual core and clocked much lower. RAM is also lower.

Pretty sure the reason the a6 is as smooth or smother with lower specs is due to software optimization and the fact it uses 3 core gpu ( which everyone seems to leave out when they make these statements). That is where apple has done good.
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Jrockttu said:
...The only thing that drives me nuts about the processor is the wake lag every time I turn it on from deep sleep. I'll learn to live with it, but this phone would be almost perfect if that were fixed (not including software tweaks).
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How long of a lag are you talking about? Are you sure it's not the home button lag from S Voice being enabled?

Mad383Max said:
Pretty sure the reason the a6 is as smooth or smother with lower specs is due to software optimization and the fact it uses 3 core gpu ( which everyone seems to leave out when they make these statements). That is where apple has done good.
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One area Apple has excelled in is GPU performance. I'm surprised Samsung doesn't push the limits in this area harder. I don't play games much myself but as you said it goes beyond just playing your favorite games on a phone.

Nexus 4 <3
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exynos is king right now (i'm ignoring apple, since it's not apples-to-apples, excuse the pun). exynos 5 is going to be ridiculous. actually it already is, inside the samsung chromebook.

Normally id say cant wait for the note 3 with the quad xenyos 5, but im happy with the note 2, and I hope they wait a year before releasing it. No more 6 month life cycles please
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jackxlj said:
The exynos is a heavily modified arm design, and apples a6 is very very similar to it.
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No, not even close. A6/A6X are heavily modified ARM, and Exynos is just tweaked stock. Samsung doesn't have the architecture license, last I checked. Apple does.
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Modern Combat 4 .. Runs beautifully Video)

Check out this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSZoY0FZcjA
Its very smooth

Okay.
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One of my all time favorites!! I'm surprised the first edition runs so well! Awesome!
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Good video man...that just confirm that our Nexus is a bad ass phone lol...

Damn just finished reading the comments and its not running on max settings like it does on the Nexus 7.but on the N7 its not smooth as the N4 is.I think the N4 could run on max settings while still running this smooth.

Graphics
Anyone got any idea how to enable the max graphics? I don't even have the game yet, but I'm POSITIVE the Nexus 4 can handle full graphics at above 30 FPS. It's GPU is nearly 3x more powerful than the Tegra 3 one.

Can't wait till more people purchase it for multiplayer. I can't wait to pick up a controller and get it to work with this game. I haven't played it much, but so far its good.

droyd4life said:
Anyone got any idea how to enable the max graphics? I don't even have the game yet, but I'm POSITIVE the Nexus 4 can handle full graphics at above 30 FPS. It's GPU is nearly 3x more powerful than the Tegra 3 one.
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Chainfire 3D is the only way as far as I know... unfortunately Gameloft is terrible at optimizing their games, the N7 runs at full effects even though it has a GPU less than half as powerful as the N4.

Ugly Gingerbread loading bar @ 1:06! Other than that, looks pretty awesome
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It runs perfectly. I try playing it, I'm just not good at it.
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TheTehk17 said:
Chainfire 3D is the only way as far as I know... unfortunately Gameloft is terrible at optimizing their games, the N7 runs at full effects even though it has a GPU less than half as powerful as the N4.
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Is the Chainfire 3D app even still maintained? I thought it had stopped getting updated over a year ago.

does it work with the ps3 gamepad?

irishtexmex said:
Is the Chainfire 3D app even still maintained? I thought it had stopped getting updated over a year ago.
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Yeah, it is not being updated anymore.
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AndroidPolice just posted a review of the game http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...playing-by-big-boy-rules-on-the-small-screen/
Personally not a fan of FPS on touch screens but yeah. Figured that review would be useful for those who are

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Yeah, it is not being updated anymore.
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But it still works? I'm currently running the CM10.1 nightlies (rock solid stable for me), and all I want to be able to do is play my THD/Tegra games I already bought for my Transformer Prime.

irishtexmex said:
But it still works? I'm currently running the CM10.1 nightlies (rock solid stable for me), and all I want to be able to do is play my THD/Tegra games I already bought for my Transformer Prime.
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It's not compatible with 4.0 or Jelly Bean according to the description of the app.

I just tested Chainfire 3D (granted, on a different device, but that should not make a difference) and it did not enable the higher effects (as it didn't with MC3, either, and both are developed by Gameloft Montreal, I suppose this makes sense). So... there's no real way to enable the high graphics.
Gameloft disabled the effects for a reason... they don't know how to optimize their stuff for most GPUs, so with all effects enabled, I bet it lagged in their testing.

could you guys not just change the model in the build prop on the nexus 4 to that of nexus 7 ?

Does anyone know if the deviceconfig.xml trick works for MC4?

Anyone know if I should get the moga control or ps3 one? I already bought the six axis app a while back.. Any suggestions? Thanks
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S4 Pro or Snapdragon 600?

So I'm currently very confused. I downloaded the app called CPU-Z to check out the internals of the G Pro and right up top it said that the chipset is the Snapdragon S4 Pro (keep in mind I'm using the AT&T model). I thought this must be an error of the app, seeing as I knew that the G Pro is supposed to have a Snapdragon 600 chip. I then went to both Antutu and Quadrant, and both stated that the phone has a Qualcomm QTC APQ8064 MTP processor, which I looked up and found is the S4 Pro from last year. I've always wondered why my G Pro tends to lag a bit and why benchmarks aren't as high as the One or the S4. Did I get fooled into thinking this device ran the Snapdragon 600?
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OG PRO

esimon311 said:
OG PRO
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Where'd you find that?
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sportsinger75 said:
Where'd you find that?
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Here you go
http://m.att.com/shopmobile/wireless/devices/lg/optimus-g-pro-indigo.html?referrer=
The Snapdragon™ 600 (APQ8064T) is there.
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http://m.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_g_pro_e985-5254.php
OG PRO

Thing is, the phone is not listing the "T" at the end of 8064. I'll upload a pic in a minute.
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Here's a screenshot... Keep in mind the phone only scores around 17000 in Antutu, indicative of S4 Pro scores.
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sportsinger75 said:
Here's a screenshot... Keep in mind the phone only scores around 17000 in Antutu, indicative of S4 Pro scores.
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Have you tried disabling thermal throttling ?

cynosure4sure said:
Have you tried disabling thermal throttling ?
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What is that, the battery saving Quad Core limiting feature? Yeah, did that. Still though, why is everything listing the device as having an S4 Pro?
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there"s a lot of confusion about that..... I"ve tried cpu-z and its the same to you....it tell that I"ve the s4 pro...QUALCOMM told that its very the snapdragon 600 who"s inside!! in fact they"re are the same except that the gpu is overclocked at 500mhz instead of 400 for the s4 pro...this is what I have read on the web
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just made an antutu test minutes ago...and had 24655 so it confirm that its really a snapdragon 600

CPU-Z stating a CPU frequency of 387 MHz and AnTuTu stating a CPU frequency of 384 MHz.
I have the AT&T version purchased 3 days ago.
Should I be at 500 MHz?
Also, CPU-Z showing S4 Pro processor.
So what's the deal?
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martinezma99 said:
CPU-Z stating a CPU frequency of 387 MHz and AnTuTu stating a CPU frequency of 384 MHz.
I have the AT&T version purchased 3 days ago.
Should I be at 500 MHz?
Also, CPU-Z showing S4 Pro processor.
So what's the deal?
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Apparently no one knows. I've tried researching but couldn't find anything so I came to this forum. To me, it makes sense that the phone runs last year's S4 Pro like all the benchmarks say, due to the fact that the phone is quite laggy in daily use and scores very low compared to the Galaxy S4 and HTC One in benchmarks, both of which definitely have Snapdragon 600 processors.
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And here's the CPU Z results from my Galaxy S4, clearly stating that the app knows the difference between the S4 Pro and the Snapdragon 600... The Optimus G Pro does NOT have a Snapdragon 600 processor. Bummer.
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sportsinger75 said:
Apparently no one knows. I've tried researching but couldn't find anything so I came to this forum. To me, it makes sense that the phone runs last year's S4 Pro like all the benchmarks say, due to the fact that the phone is quite laggy in daily use and scores very low compared to the Galaxy S4 and HTC One in benchmarks, both of which definitely have Snapdragon 600 processors.
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24k Antutu low?
Maybe still cpu z bug, check comment at Playstore
Many people have no accurate CPU
Ex: One V = Snapdragon S1, it should be Snap S2
Nexus 4 S600, it should be S4 pro
And post your antutu after disable thermal throttling

Cpu z reports incorrect processor on many models. Att site specs clearly state it has the snapdragon 600 8064t. The clock is at 1.7 which matches the recommended clock for the sd 600. I would not be so quick to think LG would lie about the phones components.

meld said:
24k Antutu low?
Maybe still cpu z bug, check comment at Playstore
Many people have no accurate CPU
Ex: One V = Snapdragon S1, it should be Snap S2
Nexus 4 S600, it should be S4 pro
And post your antutu after disable thermal throttling
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Lol, I never said 24k was low. I mentioned that the G Pro was consistently not meeting anything close to that, as it scored more in the 17k range consistently, which is more indicative of the Snapdragon S4.
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sportsinger75 said:
Apparently no one knows. I've tried researching but couldn't find anything so I came to this forum. To me, it makes sense that the phone runs last year's S4 Pro like all the benchmarks say, due to the fact that the phone is quite laggy in daily use and scores very low compared to the Galaxy S4 and HTC One in benchmarks, both of which definitely have Snapdragon 600 processors.
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Could you share your results in benchmarks with us? Because our benches http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2085915&page=3 show definitely results on par with HTC1 or just little bit lower than [email protected]
CPU-Z shows APQ8064 on mine GPro too. But according to benchmarks I'm pretty shure I have Snap600, and it's a bug in CPU-Z database, not a faulty phone
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as it scored more in the 17k range consistently, which is more indicative of the Snapdragon S4.
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No, it just indicates that throttling caps the frequency more aggressively than on HTC1 or SGS4 so to G Pro not to get as hot as them. The same was with Nexus4, it throttled sooner than, say, ASUS Padfone2 and got lower scores in all benchmarks
sportsinger75 said:
And here's the CPU Z results from my Galaxy S4, clearly stating that the app knows the difference between the S4 Pro and the Snapdragon 600... The Optimus G Pro does NOT have a Snapdragon 600 processor. Bummer.
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Where are they?
sportsinger75 said:
What is that, the battery saving Quad Core limiting feature? Yeah, did that. Still though, why is everything listing the device as having an S4 Pro?
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No. Apperantly you not tried to read the forum before starting question topic. Read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2296447

sportsinger75 said:
Apparently no one knows. I've tried researching but couldn't find anything so I came to this forum. To me, it makes sense that the phone runs last year's S4 Pro like all the benchmarks say, due to the fact that the phone is quite laggy in daily use and scores very low compared to the Galaxy S4 and HTC One in benchmarks, both of which definitely have Snapdragon 600 processors.
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Not sure where your lag is coming from or why you have it. I suffer from no lag at all. Smoothest phone ive owned or played with so far. Maybe try a system wipe and reset on your unit. Do you have 19000 widgets open?

How about using this?
Never hurts to get a second opinion:
CPU/RAM/DEVICE identifier app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Bfield.CpuIdentifier&hl=en
CPU-Z reports Exynos 4412 as ARM9 but this app is better so...................
do post your results :cyclops:

Maybe this will solve the questions.