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Desire bootlooping, but with interesting story

So I dropped my Desire in the toilet while I was drunk the other week, quickly grabbed it out, took the battery out and took it to a repair shop the next morning. He said it would be a minimum 3 days before he could look at it because he said it has to dry out first.
Im guessing he had it in the chemicals for water damage, I dont know and I didnt have to pay. So he rang me 5 days later, said its up and running but it freezes a bit, wanted to let it 'rest' for another day and then I could come in and play with it to see if i was happy with it.
I couldnt come in on the 6th day, but came in on the 7th day and he basically told me the phone didnt make it, it had died and he was glad I didnt come in the day before. Asked if I wanted it back. I said yes because its still under contract. So he told me it would take 15 mins for him to put it all back together. So I had to wait. He returned, put it on the counter the walked off again.
I didnt realise this till later on but there was a little chip that was not there anymore on the front of the handset. I pulled the battery out and it was a bit bulgy and its water sticker was pink. I then compared the phones IMEI to my original box. Different IMEI. I then pulled the handset appart, the liquid stickers inside the handset were all white. So I pulled the charger out, put the dodgy battery in and turned it on.
It bootloops the HTC screen and its very breifly displayed. Like less than a second before it restarts. If I turn it off, the orange LED comes on as if its charging but it never charges. If I pull the battery out with it connected, I get the orange/green led combo. It will load the boot loader screen and can comunicate to the PC, I have tried running the 2.3 update off the HTC Dev site on it again, it successfully loads, but still has the same outcome
Has the phone repair shop done a dodgy on me, with my handset, fixing it, and giving me a stuffed one or is it an honest mistake.
Also if I put a brand new battery in this phone will it work? And should I ring this place up on Monday and ask them what the go is?
I might also add I just got the Sensation, so i'm not too concerned if it never works again.

Dude... If they gave you a different phone, of course you should ring them up and ask them to give you YOUR original phone. It sounds like they scammed you.

... this is a blatant con, they must take you for a retard or something. Go get your phone back before they sell it on.

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dtyson said:
I didnt realise this till later on but there was a little chip that was not there anymore on the front of the handset. I pulled the battery out and it was a bit bulgy and its water sticker was pink. I then compared the phones IMEI to my original box. Different IMEI.
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You have obviously been given a different device. This can be a mistake however. Go back to the store and check with them what's happened.
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yeah, i thought this would be the case, just didnt know if there was any phone shop owners that might say otherwise, and that its a mistake. oh well, guess ill call them tomorrow and ask them what the go is.

Condensation Hard Freeze, Reboot on Home Screen.

Hello
I just purchased a GSM Galaxy Nexus From Google last monday. Got it on wednesday the first thing i did was put a screen Protector on it before booting the phone up.(ArmorSuit MilitaryShield) The phone work great on Thursday no issues what so ever. Then i Friday i went to the gym. Kept the thing in my pocket and wiped my hands before touching anything on the phone. (Waiting for otterbox to arrive)
I as soon as i get out i notice Condensation in the front camera. I soon as i received a text my phone hung up and reboot itself. After loading again to the home screen it hung up again as soon as text pop up again. I after 8 tries i final was frustrated. Took the SIM card out and swipe to the right with my finger to try to see if i could unlock it to the home screen.
I was finally able to get into the phone and turn on airplane mode before it hung up again. After i did that i Sut down phone and put the SIM card back in. Repeated the the same steps. As i turn airplane mode off the phone hung up again! (Seems everyone in the mother had to text me at that moment) I was able to make two phone call's before it lock up, but i couldn't hear them and they couldn't hear me. Called 611 then i was able to hear at&t computer but sound like the speaker was dieing. Then the phone lock up and reboot itself.
So i go into the boot loader. The phone was functioning perfected in the boot loader. Play with it for about 10mins. No hangs up. I found that weird. So i reboot the phone was able to get myself into the Factory reset. After that i did a hard factory reset.
So i call Google and they sent me over to Samsung. Samsung wants to do a replacement. I don't mind doing that i just don't like the fact they need a CC number just in case they have to Charge if the phone was abuseded which it wasn't. Baby the hell out of it. They asking me if the phone came into any touch with liquid. The the only thing i could think of was the solution the screen Protector Company sent. I didn't spray the solution directly on the phone but the direction told me to spray couple of sprays on the side of the SP that was going on the screen. (2 Sprays).
The Samsung rep told me the systoms don't sound like water damage. So after getting off the phone (About 1 hr) i notice the condensation was disappearing from the lens. So i took a quick blow dryer to it for about 30 secs. Turn the phone back on and everything been rock solid (Expect for wifi cutting in and out for some reason) for about 2 days.
So tomorrow Samsung fiance department will be calling me for my CC info. My question do you think i should send it in ? Do you think they will find water damage? Was this water damage ? Does the GSM galaxy nexus have Water Sticker ? I'm not able to find one. (Every where i googled no one had a direct answer)
I'm not trying to rip Samsung off i just don't want this to happen down the road again. If it was water damage ill just deal with it i guess.
I wonder if i don't open the new phone tey send me and just use my old 3gs in till i hear back from them... will i be able to send the Replacement phone back if it was water damage ? Just pay the shipping costs? First time dealing with something like this
What do you think i should do ?
Thank you for any input.
Sorry for the wall of text.

Just Notice i posted this in the wrong section My bad ill ask for mod to move it.

Look at the water contact indicator under the battery and see if it is red. A wet apply screen protector should not have caused this, but be careful to not let water get in the speaker and crevices when applying. In the future if your phone does come in contact with water or condensation remove the battery and sim Immediately and place in dry rice for 24 hours, do not try to power it on. Many others are reporting wifi instability, check the threads for solutions.

WiredPirate said:
Look at the water contact indicator under the battery and see if it is red. A wet apply screen protector should not have caused this, but be careful to not let water get in the speaker and crevices when applying. In the future if your phone does come in contact with water or condensation remove the battery and sim Immediately and place in dry rice for 24 hours, do not try to power it on. Many others are reporting wifi instability, check the threads for solutions.
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Looks like your good to me, I don't see any red.

WiredPirate said:
Looks like your good to me, I don't see any red.
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Do you think Samsung will find anything ? Sorry for all the questions. The lens on the front camera was white. Is there stickers inside the phone where the CPU is
I heard there was like 3 water indicators in the phone.

That I couldn't tell you, I've never taken the phone apart so I would only be guessing. You might could find out by looking for a "tear down" of the phone, there should be several online if you do a Google search. Is the phone continuing to function well for you? Besides the wifi?

Yeah its been running great. Just got off the phone with Samsung. I think i just keep this phone. I don't want to pay for repair cost's. If the phone dies in month then i guess it was water damage. I hope there's no corrosion on PCB. I would love to take it apart but i don't want to void the warranty to check. Is there warranty Sticker in there ?
The wifi thing might be my fault. My laptop does that sometimes too. I'm just freaking out. I love the phone. I don't want it too die. Just ran a CPU stability test for about 15mins. No errors the battery was at 42c temp. Went ahead and sut the phone down. Going to wait 15 mins then turn it back on.

[Q] htc one x water damage help

okay so i was playing football and suddenly it started to rain heavily (very) but i managed to get into shade (small) which was also dripping with water so the phone was not 100% safe there either. anyways i wrapped the phone with my hands and put the phone in plastic bag. when i got home and removed the back cover of the phone it was filled with water(somewhat) . anwyays, i put the phone in a bag of rice after that for past 24 hours. should i turn it on now?
should i try to dissamble the phone to dry it. ?
my touchscreen is a bit off the case. .. its not fixed. there are some opening on sides. so as long as mother board is dry? can i still turn on the phone (just to see if the phones working)

you better take it to a service ,that's my advice

From my experience you should not charge it, turn it on try to dry it with hairdryer or something of that kind, put it in uncooked rice for a few hours and pray...
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alright so ill now keep it in rice for 2 days. should i try to turn on then? or is there still some risk?

2 days? Wow mate that's alot of time haha, I think you can
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it seems that my brother tried to turn on the phone before i put it in rice. i went to repair the phone the phone only to hear that the motherboard is shot-ed . he said he "could" make it work. so is there any possible way he could repair it . can we repair the short circuited motherboard?

I doubt motherboard can be repaired most of the time they simply change it, Even if they repair it it would cost you too much, better sell it off(if possible) n buy another one
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alrighty, i gave it to a local phone repairer and he apparently repaired the mobo. he said he changed power ic mic and network related thing and now the phone is working just fine. it costed me like 1800 rs (30 $) . i still havent paid him (hes a known person and i said ill pay him tomorrow) .
but theres something bugging me, what if the phone's motherboard wasnt damaged at all in the first place? i mean, after the rain incidient i didnt try to switch on the phone (98% sure... maybe my bro tried,...dunno. but anyways, the phones battery was dead). i immediately kept in rice for like 1 and half days. and even when giving him the phone i didnt try to turn on the phone (foolish of me) . so the question is, can he really replace (repair) those parts i mentioned? can the motherboard be really repaired after being shotted by water? or am i just being fooled ?

dragonflame8712 said:
alrighty, i gave it to a local phone repairer and he apparently repaired the mobo. he said he changed power ic mic and network related thing and now the phone is working just fine. it costed me like 1800 rs (30 $) . i still havent paid him (hes a known person and i said ill pay him tomorrow) .
but theres something bugging me, what if the phone's motherboard wasnt damaged at all in the first place? i mean, after the rain incidient i didnt try to switch on the phone (98% sure... maybe my bro tried,...dunno. but anyways, the phones battery was dead). i immediately kept in rice for like 1 and half days. and even when giving him the phone i didnt try to turn on the phone (foolish of me) . so the question is, can he really replace (repair) those parts i mentioned? can the motherboard be really repaired after being shotted by water? or am i just being fooled ?
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Well my opinion : repairing a mobo.....he could have asked hell of a lot more then 30,- ! Its not that much to fall over about. If he replaced it or not.

I fell over in a muddy puddle whilst camping, and my wife checked my shorts pockets before washing them under a field tap. Sadly she checked the same pocket twice, so didn't find my brand new One X
After letting the water drip out (!) I took the mini sim out, then left in it the warm, in rice, and with a couple of gel moisture absorber packets. I'd heard not to use a hairdryer as this might force water deeper in. After 4 days it turned on when I tried, but very black screen. This cleared almost completely over a few weeks, months to almost go, and now a year later down to a small brown streak
So I think that if you are sure it's completely dried out, it is ok to turn on, not if it might still be wet

Has anyone sent their M8 for repair?

Ok, what happened here is my phone went to swim with me crying.
I tried to dry up the phone, but I still can't turn it on. Then, I send my phone via my carrier (Rogers Canada in my case) for repair. Of course, I am pretending to be innocent saying I don't know what happened to my phone, and I just can't turn it on. Then HTC (I suppose it is some outsourced place, but should be licensed under HTC) told me that there are COLLISION on the mother board and somewhere else, which is ridiculous. There is one much more ridiculous thing: the repair is going to cost
$1000
Of course, I am not asking them to repair for me. I just want to share how ridiculous it is, and if you guys can gimme some hints on how I can have it repaired, that will be great.

your phone CANT be repaired. It got wet. end of story.
what you need is a new phone.
I bet he meant corrosion on the main board. Also i personally dont like to read posts where people know they got the phone wet then try to play dumb and pull one over on someone or a company. That shows very little integrity on your part. But i dont want to turn this into a personal attack as the mods dont like it. SO lets hope a mod reads this thread and shuts it down.

If you're lucky the phone might magically just turn on, on any given day. I've seen that happen
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IAmSixNine said:
your phone CANT be repaired. It got wet. end of story.
what you need is a new phone.
I bet he meant corrosion on the main board. Also i personally dont like to read posts where people know they got the phone wet then try to play dumb and pull one over on someone or a company. That shows very little integrity on your part. But i dont want to turn this into a personal attack as the mods dont like it. SO lets hope a mod reads this thread and shuts it down.
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I accept your comment, but what I wanna say is $1000 is ridiculous...

I will agree with you there, 1000 bucks to fix a phone is way overboard. Unless theres some conversion were missing. like 400 USD = 1000 what ever lol

IAmSixNine said:
I will agree with you there, 1000 bucks to fix a phone is way overboard. Unless theres some conversion were missing. like 400 USD = 1000 what ever lol
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It's 1000 CAD, which equals around 930 USD.

This doesn't even sound right. How can the repair cost more than the actual cost of the device. I'd look for another repair option.

Sleepycloud said:
This doesn't even sound right. How can the repair cost more than the actual cost of the device. I'd look for another repair option.
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Diagnostics, manual assembly, etc. Very little can be reliably salvaged from a water damaged phone. Assume everything but the case needs replacing. It's what's known as a write-off.

BenPope said:
Diagnostics, manual assembly, etc. Very little can be reliably salvaged from a water damaged phone. Assume everything but the case needs replacing. It's what's known as a write-off.
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I've washed them full cycle several times. Each time when I found my phone i soaked them in alcohol and agitated them for about 20 minutes fully submerged. Then I use a toaster oven and dried them out with gentle heat and by sucking air into the phone about 20 times. All of them worked again. Even an iPhone once. Yes, I said full cycle. I found my phone in the when I was loading the dryer. Have I been lucky? I dunno. Many find this hard to believe, but it's true. I put a charging port in my girlfriends note 2. It came from a water damaged Note 2. It was sitting in parts for 2 months. I figured it was dry because it was sitting in open air. Well I put it in and it worked. A week later she lost data and voice. Long story short, that chargign port wrecked everything in the Note 2. When they opened it up, it has white fungus looking corrosion working halfway up the phone in three spots. It absolutely ruined the Note 2 and an insurance claim had to be made. It can go ether way, saved or junked. Just depends on the conditions.

Sleepycloud said:
I've washed them full cycle several times
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Wow, I guess you don't learn fast.
Water damaged vs got wet.
If you're quick enough and use the correct method and lucky, you may get the thing working again, but I'd hardly say reliably. HTC or any repair centre are hardly going to want to provide a 3 month warranty on a repair of a phone that's got wet without replacing everything that can be damaged by water.

The sum of the parts is greater then the price of the item.
Thats why we have chop shops. Some cars are worth more when parted out and the pieces are sold individually.
So if each component was being sold to him at retail pricing, add labor and whola, higher price.

Water Damage - Stuck in Bootloop

Hi,
I was on a trip last month in Phi Phi Islands (Thailand) and took a lot on underwater videos and pictures considering the phone is IP67. The phone didn't die and worked perfectly for almost whole day and I was pretty happy with the results. Unfortunately, I connected the phone to powerbank while it wasnt completely dry and then it restarted at once and ever since then its stuck in bootloop. I dried it completely and put it in rice for couple of days but no change. I think I have fried the internals of the phone.
Any idea if the phone will be covered in warranty (I'm pretty sure it wont be) and if I have to pay then approx how much $ will it take to fix the phone?

I think the waterproof rating is for fresh water only. Might as well try to return it, just say it fell in the toilet.

Edmontonchef said:
I think the waterproof rating is for fresh water only. Might as well try to return it, just say it fell in the toilet.
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A toilet that you keep very salty? :silly:

No manufacturer will cover water damage. They can't cover it because a phone is technically only water resistant up to the max depth and time allowed by the IP rating and Google has no clue how long you took the device underwater. What Google will probably do is check the water damage indicator located inside the sim slot if it's red you're out of luck

Play!Ya said:
Hi,
I was on a trip last month in Phi Phi Islands (Thailand) and took a lot on underwater videos and pictures considering the phone is IP67. The phone didn't die and worked perfectly for almost whole day and I was pretty happy with the results. Unfortunately, I connected the phone to powerbank while it wasnt completely dry and then it restarted at once and ever since then its stuck in bootloop. I dried it completely and put it in rice for couple of days but no change. I think I have fried the internals of the phone.
Any idea if the phone will be covered in warranty (I'm pretty sure it wont be) and if I have to pay then approx how much $ will it take to fix the phone?
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You're SOL if you were in the water longer than 30 minutes chances are water did get inside the device and if it did you have sodium deposits lingering around on components probably. Whoever is fixing your device will probably have to replace majority of the components and spend a lot of time cleaning off the sodium deposits and at this point it's probably more hassle than it's worth. Not to mention after opening the device your waterproofing is gone. You might as well check eBay or Swappa for a replacement device. Or if you have insurance you'll probably need to file a claim. Good luck!

I had the same issue. I took the pixel in the shower at tommotowland and pluged it to a power bank a few minutes later. For a week, it was really hard to charge. Later, the issue disappear.
Now, once a month, it reboots when I plug it

Play!Ya said:
Hi,
I was on a trip last month in Phi Phi Islands (Thailand) and took a lot on underwater videos and pictures considering the phone is IP67. The phone didn't die and worked perfectly for almost whole day and I was pretty happy with the results. Unfortunately, I connected the phone to powerbank while it wasnt completely dry and then it restarted at once and ever since then its stuck in bootloop. I dried it completely and put it in rice for couple of days but no change. I think I have fried the internals of the phone.
Any idea if the phone will be covered in warranty (I'm pretty sure it wont be) and if I have to pay then approx how much $ will it take to fix the phone?
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My kid dunked his in the ocean and it failed. Google replaced it without any hassles at all.

IP ratings only cover freshwater.
Salt water is a whole other game
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Well the Pixel 3 was just released..... for pre order

Thanks everyone! I took it to Bell store and told them it's rebooting for no reason. They checked it and told me that the internal board is fried so they replaced it with a fresh unit!
I think I was lucky ?
Thanks everyone for their feedback!

krolla03 said:
Well the Pixel 3 was just released..... for pre order
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Pixel 3 XL looks temptive but a bit ugly. In any case it's very expensive for me. I got Pixel 2 XL on a two year contract for just CAD 25 which was an awesome deal. Paying CAD 1300 plus tax is out of the question ?