Quick question, since I can't exactly find this with search and haven't seen it in any forums, what happens with some of the stock functions after flashing a Rom?
Specifically, I'm wanting to flash Pac-Rom (all-in-one), but I'm not fond of sacrificing the stock smart screen functions, especially smart stay.
Does anyone know if these functions will still be available? And if not on this Rom, do you know of one that it still will be available on?
Thank you for your non-trollish answers in advance.
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DrowsyMalice said:
Quick question, since I can't exactly find this with search and haven't seen it in any forums, what happens with some of the stock functions after flashing a Rom?
Specifically, I'm wanting to flash Pac-Rom (all-in-one), but I'm not fond of sacrificing the stock smart screen functions, especially smart stay.
Does anyone know if these functions will still be available? And if not on this Rom, do you know of one that it still will be available on?
Thank you for your non-trollish answers in advance.
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None of those functions will be available if you flash any of the AOSP/AOKP/CM roms.
The only way to retain all those special features found on the S4 Tmobile phone is to only
flash those custom roms which are based on the S4 Touchwiz Jellybean 4.2.2 firmware.
You will not only loose those features and functions which you described, but you will
loose many others as well, including wifi calling.
Sometimes it's not easy to tell if a custom rom is AOSP/AOKP/CM because a lot of the
developers fail to make it clear that their roms are AOSP/AOKP/CM in their opening
post which describes the rom and it's features.
If any roms require GAPPS to be downloaded and flashed you can be sure that it's
an AOSP/AOKP/CM type rom.
Good luck!
Misterjunky said:
None of those functions will be available if you flash any of the AOSP/AOKP/CM roms.
The only way to retain all those special features found on the S4 Tmobile phone is to only
flash those custom roms which are based on the S4 Touchwiz Jellybean 4.2.2 firmware.
You will not only loose those features and functions which you described, but you will
loose many others as well, including wifi calling.
Sometimes it's not easy to tell if a custom rom is AOSP/AOKP/CM because a lot of the
developers fail to make it clear that their roms are AOSP/AOKP/CM in their opening
post which describes the rom and it's features.
If any roms require GAPPS to be downloaded and flashed you can be sure that it's
an AOSP/AOKP/CM type rom.
Good luck!
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****in A. I couldn't have asked for a more descriptive, helpful and polite answer.
Thank you sir, for your answer. You are a scholar and a saint. ;D
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OK.. So every phone i have ever owned i have rooted, Kernels, anything and everything.
But here is my problem.. I have recently updated (manually) to the new ICS on my epic 4g touch.
I have tried all the roms pre this release and never had 100% luck with any so normally always ran stock os plus root.
I want to know if A) there are new roms post this recent update, B) if i root to another pre-existing rom is it going to mess it all up again.
Basically i want like CM10 out or something. Something made specifically for how the phone is now...
Any suggestions?? Im tired of stock. I want to customize!!! :crying:
Depends how custom you want to go. If you want to flash custom theme and modz, you must go with a deodexd ROM.
But if you want AOSP-ish look, agat has a very good stable and themed FF18 ROM he calls tFF18. It has a simple look, much different than stock tho, but it's built with a custom kernel and based off Samsung, not CM9 or 10
not sure if that helps.
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The upcoming aosp builds should see a large improvement if it's of any interest to you
Swyped from a Galaxy S2
hmm
itsallsubliminal said:
Depends how custom you want to go. If you want to flash custom theme and modz, you must go with a deodexd ROM.
But if you want AOSP-ish look, agat has a very good stable and themed FF18 ROM he calls tFF18. It has a simple look, much different than stock tho, but it's built with a custom kernel and based off Samsung, not CM9 or 10
not sure if that helps.
It does help!. So if i get this right... ANY deodexed rom or another option is tFF18. And these are both based off our current rooms so that EVERYTHING WORKS
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hmml
Are there any other name brand roms out there i can look into?
Anything t look into specific??? As far as AOSP roms go, ive tried them in the past, but are you saying their newer version ones are friendly to the latest update?
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itsallsubliminal said:
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It does help!. So if i get this right... ANY deodexed rom or another option is tFF18. And these are both based off our current rooms so that EVERYTHING WORKS
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Yes everything works. tFF18 is odex, so you can't change much of the ROM but it works incredibly smooth and stable. Also, practically all DEODEX'd ROMs have the hacked sprint hot spot for tethering. Stock and odex roms require the Wifi Tether app which is easily found by googling "wifi tether apk"
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Txsrbl05 said:
Are there any other name brand roms out there i can look into?
Anything t look into specific??? As far as AOSP roms go, ive tried them in the past, but are you saying their newer version ones are friendly to the latest update?
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Aosp is nice and light weight, makes it super snappy, but you lose a couple convenient features from samsungs touch wiz UI.. My main gripe with going aosp/aokp is that my camera doesn't perform as well, where IMO Samsung did a nice job with the software.
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the e4gt looks awsome with blu kuban on ff18 and runs great on adw launcher easy to root and flash and has great updates check out qbking77 on youtube if you need help
Hi!
What is better:
The official Samsung stock ROM or a custom ROM? And if second one, which? CM?
I ask this cause I heard that custom ROMs don't have that much support for the S-Pen. And no Multi-Window.
go for stock firmware. I was custom rom flash addict but after i got note2, i choose stock firmware+custom kernel
Me too. In the past devices i go for custom rom for it speed which varies alot from stock. But on the sgn2 i no longer need that as its fast as it is. I just keep to deodexed stock rom with mods which suits my needs.
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Mods are everything I need
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hayabusa08 said:
Me too. In the past devices i go for custom rom for it speed which varies alot from stock. But on the sgn2 i no longer need that as its fast as it is. I just keep to deodexed stock rom with mods which suits my needs.
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+1 for me.. Stock deodexed with a custom kernel to get faster charging etc, I see no need to overclock with a device this fast :good:
But don't forget to disable all the lame bloatware too.
Could you link me to that custom kernel?
Are there any downsides to the custom kernel? Faster charging sounds nice.
That heavily depends on what you want. If you like some of the Samsung-specific functionality like S-Pen, Quick Glance and so on, you want to stay stock or flash one of the nice and debloated custom ROMS based on stock. My favorite is HyperNote, but I think it doesn't meet all your requirements.
If you want it even faster and like the Cyanogen-specific style, try any of these ROMS (hint: HyperDroid).
But there is no "need" to make the stock faster, as with this kind of RAM and CPU power, everything will just work fine. Best to make a backup before flashing and just trying some ROMs on your own. Have fun
Just get a deodexed stock rom and you will have everything you need.
What devs do is change the roms and repack it for flashing.
And in my case half of them aren't exactly what I need or are useless.
You can apply all those mods to yours without any data loss
And it's fun :beer:
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Could you link me to that custom kernel?
Are there any downsides to the custom kernel? Faster charging sounds nice.
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I've not experienced any downsides, plus it patches the Exynos bug. You are trusting someone other than Samsung to control the internals of your device, but Im happy with that. I do get a random reboots now and then, like once every couple of days but I suspect its unrelated, and I do like to tinker with my device. Phones these days are actually computers and do trip up every now and then.
I use the Perseus kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927852
I really would't worry about it. If you don't find it useful you can just flash the stock kernel back, no halm done.
Stock rom and kernel are good. The note 2 doesn't need a rom to be more fast or stable.
But for me is important choose the application that runs on my phone as system app. So I need root privileges.
Then I found some roms that had stock things without a lot of S.h.i.t. that samsung have to put into our device for marketing purposes.
And so now for me is better a custom rom because you know what there is and what is running on at least.
Should be in the question section.
Stock custom rom.
It's usually updated to the latest Samsung version, can be modded and has loads of tweaks
Hi i use omega v10 with redpill kernal and every thing works fine battery live is amazing and the rom still has all stock feutures
I know what they stand for but I'm looking to apply a tweak from TK and everywhere I read "TW will not work with AOSP and vice versa" so how do I know if I have a TW rom or an AOSP rom? I'm on LiquidSmooth which I believe to be AOSP, but how do I know for sure? Also what is the difference between a factory/data reset and wiping the system entirely? Because in TWRP there is an option to Wipe Data and an option to Wipe System, and I always choose to Wipe data before I flash anything but when I click "System" it says "This will wipe your ROM" which sounds safer before flashing a new ROM to me, but then again with just wiping data I've never had a problem with flashing a ROM.
sevenpioverthree said:
I know what they stand for but I'm looking to apply a tweak from TK and everywhere I read "TW will not work with AOSP and vice versa" so how do I know if I have a TW rom or an AOSP rom? I'm on LiquidSmooth which I believe to be AOSP, but how do I know for sure? Also what is the difference between a factory/data reset and wiping the system entirely? Because in TWRP there is an option to Wipe Data and an option to Wipe System, and I always choose to Wipe data before I flash anything but when I click "System" it says "This will wipe your ROM" which sounds safer before flashing a new ROM to me, but then again with just wiping data I've never had a problem with flashing a ROM.
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Try typing in those questions in Google or the search here on XDA I bet you find an answer real fast. Also if you don't know the difference bewtween AOSP and TW I would suggest not doing any tweaking or your next post might be, I BRICKED MY PHONE HELP.
TW or Touchwiz is a proprietary layer that Samsung places on top of the android operating system; it requires it's own set of framework which enables it to give u that fancy user experience. When u first bought your Samsung phone i.e. galaxy s3, u will notice that it comes preloaded with TW. On the other hand, AOSP is basically the pure android experience, if u ever seen or played with nexus phone, then u will notice the difference in layout and graphics. AOSP has it's own set of framework thus making it incompatible with TW. Although some devs have been able to port certain apps from one system to another. That's why u have to be really careful when flashing kernels, make sure they're compatible with the ROM u are CURRENTLY running on ur phone.
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GiantJay said:
Try typing in those questions in Google or the search here on XDA I bet you find an answer real fast. Also if you don't know the difference bewtween AOSP and TW I would suggest not doing any tweaking or your next post might be, I BRICKED MY PHONE HELP.
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I tried doing a search but nothing seemed to answer my question. Also I've been doing some tweaking here and there for educational purposes, nothing major just followed some UV tables and governor values. I have yet to use one of the TK tweaks due to my lack of understanding of the difference between TW and AOSP. Thanks for the concern but I'm really cautious with this stuff, my first time rooting/flashing was 100% success because I did my research
tino_b said:
TW or Touchwiz is a proprietary layer that Samsung places on top of the android operating system; it requires it's own set of framework which enables it to give u that fancy user experience. When u first bought your Samsung phone i.e. galaxy s3, u will notice that it comes preloaded with TW. On the other hand, AOSP is basically the pure android experience, if u ever seen or played with nexus phone, then u will notice the difference in layout and graphics. AOSP has it's own set of framework thus making it incompatible with TW. Although some devs have been able to port certain apps from one system to another. That's why u have to be really careful when flashing kernels, make sure they're compatible with the ROM u are CURRENTLY running on ur phone.
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So essentially, most custom ROMs are AOSP unless otherwise stated? And then these TW kernels are usually targetted towards people with rooted phones on the stock ROM correct?
sevenpioverthree said:
I tried doing a search but nothing seemed to answer my question. Also I've been doing some tweaking here and there for educational purposes, nothing major just followed some UV tables and governor values. I have yet to use one of the TK tweaks due to my lack of understanding of the difference between TW and AOSP. Thanks for the concern but I'm really cautious with this stuff, my first time rooting/flashing was 100% success because I did my research
So essentially, most custom ROMs are AOSP unless otherwise stated? And then these TW kernels are usually targetted towards people with rooted phones on the stock ROM correct?
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No. There are plenty of touchwiz custom roms, actually probably more than aosp roms. The easiest way to tell if you have touchwiz would be to look at your system apps. If you have touchwiz home or a bunch of apps with sec in the name for example sec_phone.apk or sec settings.apk you're on a touchwiz rom. And yes you really do need to do a whole lot more research if you can't figure out which kind of rom you're on or you will end up doing something to your phone you won't like, most likely turning it into a really nice looking doorstop
☆SoA: Son's of Android™☆
I like to break stuff!
I know its pretty difficult when the dev doesnt explicitly say whether its a tw or aosp build. i tried to compile a list of common roms and make a wiki out of them. the wiki is sortable so it should be able to help you out. from there you can flash individual roms and see the differences yourself
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2189817
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I know its pretty difficult when the dev doesnt explicitly say whether its a tw or aosp build. i tried to compile a list of common roms and make a wiki out of them. the wiki is sortable so it should be able to help you out. from there you can flash individual roms and see the differences yourself
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2189817
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Hey Hamspiced,
I've been trying to link people to your Wiki. Would you prefer if I linked to your thread or directly to the Wiki?
topherk said:
Hey Hamspiced,
I've been trying to link people to your Wiki. Would you prefer if I linked to your thread or directly to the Wiki?
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Id prefer the thread. the more foot traffic it gets, the more likely it is to be stickied/devs update it.
I dont have the time to stay up to date on new roms/kernels all the time and id like it to stay rather relevant. it isnt locked so people can ask quesitons if need be on it.
Hamspiced said:
Id prefer the thread. the more foot traffic it gets, the more likely it is to be stickied/devs update it.
I dont have the time to stay up to date on new roms/kernels all the time and id like it to stay rather relevant. it isnt locked so people can ask quesitons if need be on it.
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Ok, I bookmarked the thread in my "commonly linked XDA" folder. Hope your wiki takes off, it's really something we've needed.
All you have to do is look at the size of the rom, TW roms are usually bigger than 400 meg, while aosp roms are in the 100-200 meg range. If your zip is big then it is TW, if not then its AOSP
Hamspiced said:
I know its pretty difficult when the dev doesnt explicitly say whether its a tw or aosp build. i tried to compile a list of common roms and make a wiki out of them. the wiki is sortable so it should be able to help you out. from there you can flash individual roms and see the differences yourself
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2189817
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I also have Rom lists, broken down to tw and aosp in my FAQ, I keep it up to date always as I am always on xda, lol... along with that I also have kernels, broken down between tw and aosp, most common mods, and all the modems and prls in there also....
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Hey guys,
I possibly may get a Note 2 and just have a quick question regarding the AOSP Roms here.
Looking through the threads, it seems like the AOSP Roms are doing very well and very stable.
Am I correct with this and is there anything I should know? I love AOSP Roms very much lol.
Also I didn't find the rooting thread, is it easy to root?
Thanks!!!!!
Is there anybody out there? lol
Rooting is easy If you use the Galaxy note 2 toolbox in the development thread. Not sure about the asop roms. not really a fan.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957155
johntheman_692003 said:
Rooting is easy If you use the Galaxy note 2 toolbox in the development thread. Not sure about the asop roms. not really a fan.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957155
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Great, thanks!
I am mainly asking about AOSP Roms because that's the only thing I use lol.
cm11 and omnirom work great esp with xposed. No issues. However the update to kk is kind of a one way thing due to the changes in storage mount points.
tapa_talk 4 sucks
guisar said:
cm11 and omnirom work great esp with xposed. No issues. However the update to kk is kind of a one way thing due to the changes in storage mount points.
tapa_talk 4 sucks
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Actually that statement is far from true. I bounce between 4.2.2, 4.3, 4.4.2 aosp and 4.1.2, 4.3 touchwiz all the time.
The thing is that you have to wipe your internal sdcard. Actually I wipe mine every time I flash any rom even if they are the same version. A clean flash will always give you the best results.
One place to check
churka said:
Hey guys,
I possibly may get a Note 2 and just have a quick question regarding the AOSP Roms here.
Looking through the threads, it seems like the AOSP Roms are doing very well and very stable.
Am I correct with this and is there anything I should know? I love AOSP Roms very much lol.
Also I didn't find the rooting thread, is it easy to root?
Thanks!!!!!
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Take a look at this website galaxynote2root.com/category/sprint-galaxy-note-2-roms this guy is good coving ASOP rom there alot of roms that he test drive and let you know what to expect and there fairly simple only depens if your on 4.1.2 or 4.3..I know 4.3 there's the issues knox but 4.1.2 its a breeze
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Actually that statement is far from true. I bounce between 4.2.2, 4.3, 4.4.2 aosp and 4.1.2, 4.3 touchwiz all the time.
The thing is that you have to wipe your internal sdcard. Actually I wipe mine every time I flash any rom even if they are the same version. A clean flash will always give you the best results.
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you can easy flash backward and forward i havent had any issues going from 4.1.2 and 4.4.2 and i;m a flasholic
good morning.
I'd like to know if there's any way to get an official (I mean directly from Google) Lollipop/Marshmallow rom and flash it on an i9195 and, if yes, what's the procedure to do that.
I don't mean custom roms that we can all find even here but just basic ones.
maybe I'm asking something strange/obvious, I bag your pardon but I'm not so expert...
thanx
frac82 said:
good morning.
I'd like to know if there's any way to get an official (I mean directly from Google) Lollipop/Marshmallow rom and flash it on an i9195 and, if yes, what's the procedure to do that.
I don't mean custom roms that we can all find even here but just basic ones.
maybe I'm asking something strange/obvious, I bag your pardon but I'm not so expert...
thanx
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No. Basically you have the "official" touchwiz rom for your region/carrier/device(developed by Samsung and the carrier) and you have custom roms.
Only Nexus devices have vanilla AOSP roms that are more or less stock android. It is possible to have stock AOSP on this device but it is a LOT of work for a developer to get it to work properly. This is why most roms are based on CM because of the existing development and code base
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No. Basically you have the "official" touchwiz rom for your region/carrier/device(developed by Samsung and the carrier) and you have custom roms.
Only Nexus devices have vanilla AOSP roms that are more or less stock android. It is possible to have stock AOSP on this device but it is a LOT of work for a developer to get it to work properly. This is why most roms are based on CM because of the existing development and code base
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thank you very much.
may I ask, due to my lack of experience, what do AOSP & CM mean?
frac82 said:
thank you very much.
may I ask, due to my lack of experience, what do AOSP & CM mean?
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AOSP is Android Open Source Project
http://m.androidcentral.com/android-z-what-aosp
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CM is Cyanogenmod
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I see there are 2 roms for S4 Mini on the Cyanogenmod website, one is the serrano3gxx and the other is the serranoltexx: what do they mean? how should I find out which to choose?
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I see there are 2 roms for S4 Mini on the Cyanogenmod website, one is the serrano3gxx and the other is the serranoltexx: what do they mean? how should I find out which to choose?
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3gxx is i9190. Ltexx is i9195
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I keep asking down here because I don't want to overload the forum, even though this new question of mine could be in another post: as I flash a new rom I guess I'm getting a "bulk" android, so does anybody know if there's a "good" (i.e. reliable and working!) tool/app/mod/wth that can bring TouchWiz back on the device?
I feel very comfortable with Samsung's TouchWiz and wouldn't like to lose it...
thanx again
frac82 said:
I keep asking down here because I don't want to overload the forum, even though this new question of mine could be in another post: as I flash a new rom I guess I'm getting a "bulk" android, so does anybody know if there's a "good" (i.e. reliable and working!) tool/app/mod/wth that can bring TouchWiz back on the device?
I feel very comfortable with Samsung's TouchWiz and wouldn't like to lose it...
thanx again
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I wish more XDA users would think before they overload or post off-topic in threads.
When you flash a custom rom, you are entirely overwriting the /system partition. This is where the touchwiz rom also needs to reside. To flash a stock touchwiz rom you need a tool called Odin(for windows; Heimdall is similar but works on Linux). You can get Odin from a lot of different places, I found one in here, there are a few versions but this one works well in my experience.
You can search for youtube tutorials or tutorials on XDA for how to use Odin. Search for "stock rom i9195" or "Odin tutorial" or something....
All you need then is the touchwiz rom in .tar.md5 format which you can get from a number of sites including sammobile.com and samsung-updates.com. You will get a .zip file which when unzipped gives you the .tar.md5 file. Be aware that most of these sites require a premium membership for fast downloads. You can still download at slow sppeds but it is really slow. Just choose the latest rom for your region
sorry, maybe I didn't understand well: can I put touchwiz back on a CM custom rom or not?
frac82 said:
sorry, maybe I didn't understand well: can I put touchwiz back on a CM custom rom or not?
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No, Touchwiz needs Samsung proprietary files etc to work.
Edit; but you may be able to get a similar feel by applying a "touchwiz" theme, but it's not real touchwiz
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frac82 said:
sorry, maybe I didn't understand well: can I put touchwiz back on a CM custom rom or not?
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No, it's either one or the other. When you flash a custom rom it completely wipes the /system partition(either manually or automatically within the installer script). Normally you need to wipe your data as well because of incompatibilities.
So, you don't "put touchwiz on" the custom rom or vice versa. You replace the whole operating system. Hope that makes it clearer
:crying:
what do you think about these things I found on Google Play?
CM13/12.x Galaxy S7
CM13/12.X GalaxyUI Themes
CM12.x/CM13 Galaxy S6
TouchWiz for CM13
TouchWiz Style CM12 Theme
Touchwhiz Apex/Nova Theme
noppy22 said:
3gxx is i9190. Ltexx is i9195
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now on LineageOS there's also a serranodsdd: is it for dual sim...?!?