[SOLVED with INFO] WiFi Calling and GPS - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4

Is it just me or does having WiFi calling enabled and running use the GPS a lot?
From what i have googled and found is that it does. But i just wanna make sure im not crazy or something or have a rogue app running..
Do any others notice this?
Also, what is it even for? 911 calls?

elesbb said:
Is it just me or does having WiFi calling enabled and running use the GPS a lot?
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I have wifi calling on all the time, and I notice my GPS does activate a lot at random times when I'm not otherwise using any specific apps (usually just saying "searching for location"); however, I haven't noticed a connection between the two (the GPS activating when I make / receive a wifi call)

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I have wifi calling on all the time, and I notice my GPS does activate a lot at random times when I'm not otherwise using any specific apps (usually just saying "searching for location"); however, I haven't noticed a connection between the two (the GPS activating when I make / receive a wifi call)
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Thanks for the reply! It's not necessarily when I make/receive a call. It's just random. I'm gonna take a look at the apk see what it's doing.
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Great, if you find anything post it here. I'm also curious why my phone needs to know my location at all these random times, especially in light of recent news here in the US.
My best guess is that it's related to Google Now (the google voice search thing). Do you have that enabled? They say they periodically take your location to tailor content and make the app "smart" (such as figuring out your home address and telling you how long it will take you to get there from a given location).

Just Another User said:
Great, if you find anything post it here. I'm also curious why my phone needs to know my location at all these random times, especially in light of recent news here in the US.
My best guess is that it's related to Google Now (the google voice search thing). Do you have that enabled? They say they periodically take your location to tailor content and make the app "smart" (such as figuring out your home address and telling you how long it will take you to get there from a given location).
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I don't have the apk installed for Google now. So it can't be that. And I notice it locks my GPS every time I see that WiFi calling notification. So I'm most certainly it's related to that.
And yeah go USA right? Man I don't get our government.
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UPDATE:
So i decompiled the apk, and my suspicions are correct. The GPS for the WiFi calling IS used for emergency calls to locate you more accurately. I am still wondering if i should remove it or not. I may just decrease the interval for how often it locks.

elesbb said:
UPDATE:
So i decompiled the apk, and my suspicions are correct. The GPS for the WiFi calling IS used for emergency calls to locate you more accurately. I am still wondering if i should remove it or not. I may just decrease the interval for how often it locks.
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Thanks for the update.
I thought the wifi calling app was closed source, so you couldn't get into it? If you know of a way to disable the tracking, that would be nice (i'm not a programmer, I just know enough to know what "decompiling an apk is" without being able to actually do it)
Not sure why they'd need this feature (presumably they'd have your location anyway from the IP of the wifi connection), and if I need to call Emergency Services, I'll have to tell them where I am anyway.

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Thanks for the update.
I thought the wifi calling app was closed source, so you couldn't get into it? If you know of a way to disable the tracking, that would be nice (i'm not a programmer, I just know enough to know what "decompiling an apk is" without being able to actually do it)
Not sure why they'd need this feature (presumably they'd have your location anyway from the IP of the wifi connection), and if I need to call Emergency Services, I'll have to tell them where I am anyway.
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I can disable it. And it makes it easier for emergency personal to find you as exact coordinates are given to them. If you're on cell towers and initiate a 911 call, I believe it automatically sends GPS information. It's just the WiFi calling doesn't use cell towers so it can't grab the location. And I'm sure they can get ip information.
As for it being closed source, I just decompiled the apk responsible for the notification and all the prompts/tutorials, the actual hard core code is found in the lib files which yes are closed source and impossible to reverse engineer.
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[Q] Freezing your account - does it block out any part of the phone?

I'm traveling overseas in September for over half a month and want to call Sprint and get them to freeze my account while I'm gone. I understand the monthly fee is $8.99 (don't know if they will pro-rate it or what) which is much better than paying for that month of service that you hardly use.
Since I'm going out of the country and won't be able to use my EVO, I'm assuming I can freeze my account but still use the phone, just without any mobile wireless capabilities.
The wifi should be able to look up stuff online, check email, and look at Google Maps, correct? I just want to make sure there's not some weird kind of thing that Sprint would lock out all the features of your phone.
Bottom line: you can freeze your account but still use all features besides making calls and sending texts via mobile broadband, right? But all apps (besides GPS) can work off wi-fi, unless the app is specifically designed to use mobile broadband only.
Thank you to anyone who helps!
get you a google voice number and you'll have a phone as long as you're on wifi too
goodelyfe said:
get you a google voice number and you'll have a phone as long as you're on wifi too
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I thought that would be the case too, but GV relies on the phone's non broadband capabilities - so you need mobile broadband/phone line for it to work.
I thought I was being clever and found away to never use minutes by using GV to dial to landlines but that's not the case.
I would venture to say that unless you are traveling somewhere that has cdma coverage, your normal phone related functions won't work anyway since you won't have reception. You really shouldn't need to pay a fee to basically disable the phone portion of your phone since on the evo, you have the option to have the airplane mode exclude wifi from the radios it disables. I traveled to the UK back in april and can attest to the fact that the wifi on my old pre worked without a hitch and I can also confirm that it did not receive signal either so there were no incoming calls or sms messages to worry about. All that said, you shouldn't have any trouble with wifi. As long as you're on wifi, google maps should work just fine as well.
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jwterminator said:
I would venture to say that unless you are traveling somewhere that has cdma coverage, your normal phone related functions won't work anyway since you won't have reception. You really shouldn't need to pay a fee to basically disable the phone portion of your phone since on the evo, you have the option to have the airplane mode exclude wifi from the radios it disables. I traveled to the UK back in april and can attest to the fact that the wifi on my old pre worked without a hitch and I can also confirm that it did not receive signal either so there were no incoming calls or sms messages to worry about. All that said, you shouldn't have any trouble with wifi. As long as you're on wifi, google maps should work just fine as well.
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OK thanks, I didn't want to assume anything, because, you know, I really wouldn't be surprised if a company froze more than just sending/receiving texts/calls capability (in addition to web surfing obviously).
I just don't want to pay almost $100 for 2 weeks of service out of the month - so I need to give em a call and see if they can freeze it for 2 weeks and charge me half as much, that way I can save a little cash.
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I thought that would be the case too, but GV relies on the phone's non broadband capabilities - so you need mobile broadband/phone line for it to work.
I thought I was being clever and found away to never use minutes by using GV to dial to landlines but that's not the case.
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hmmm are you sure?
i do remember using without the mobile broadband/phoneline and just wifi
goodelyfe said:
hmmm are you sure?
i do remember using without the mobile broadband/phoneline and just wifi
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Did you use it through a SIP program or just the GV app by itself? I will have to test it out when I'm there.
i blv i done it both ways.
also sorry bro for going off topic in your thread...lol just thought it might help lol
goodelyfe said:
i blv i done it both ways.
also sorry bro for going off topic in your thread...lol just thought it might help lol
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Well that would be even better, I do hope you're right!
Any VOIP should work on wi-fi... damn skype and Fring shenanigans... I was so looking forward to that when I deployed... would have made it so much easier to communicate with my wife. (shes not real big on technology and my short fuse of trying to setup/explain how to do new things sucks) lol...
You basically sumed it up, all apps should work fine unless they need specific network support. In my past experiences with deploying for short terms, it was actually just easier to suck it up and pay the bill instead of downgrading service. They don't always get it right and if you end up coming back early it can be a PITA to get it back on..
VOODOOTRIP said:
Any VOIP should work on wi-fi... damn skype and Fring shenanigans... I was so looking forward to that when I deployed... would have made it so much easier to communicate with my wife. (shes not real big on technology and my short fuse of trying to setup/explain how to do new things sucks) lol...
You basically sumed it up, all apps should work fine unless they need specific network support. In my past experiences with deploying for short terms, it was actually just easier to suck it up and pay the bill instead of downgrading service. They don't always get it right and if you end up coming back early it can be a PITA to get it back on..
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Thanks, I was thinking about the same thing about it being such a pain in the ass to deal with it as well... and when I finally get back stateside at least I'll definitely have service.
Although Google Voice requires the mobile network for phone, it uses data for sms and I expect mms. So if you had WiFi access you would have texting available.
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VOIP/SIP calls with native ICS client

we recently found out that ics allows native voip calling, which is awesome if you want to save craploads of money. but did anyone here ever manage to get it working? the problem is that i hear nothing, the receiver can hear me just fine.
it's so weird because all third party clients i tried work flawlessly, csipsimple for instance. this app in particular is really, really nice, but it muddles ics with that gingerbread look, i'd prefer the native client if it only worked. so there must be something im doing wrong. but what?
It could be a lot of things that have been setup wrongly or your voip provider doesn't allow it.
For me, I have it working perfectly on gnex. The provider I am using is poivy (poivy.com).
They provide details of how to setup their service in voip capable devices. I simply copied the values from the info page they provided and was able to make it work after some failed attempts.
I found that there is a tricky part in process where you have to setup the Optional Settings in the SIP Account Details. I had to enter the Authentication username. Its simply your user name as you entered it in the Username field in the same settings page above the Optional Settings. Its seems odd to have the user name entered twice but that did for me.
If all fails, try setting up an account at poivy.com, they give you free calls to US numbers. That would iron out that your provider doesn't allow you to setup a voip on something other than the software they provide.
Let me know if u need more details or help...
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im mostly using wifi so the provider can go screw itself, but i tested it outside the building with csipsimple and luckily it works, phew. its only this google thing that i could never get to work ... i mean the data is fine, it finds my account and the call goes through, but its of no use since the receiver does not hear a thing, i hear him though. i researched before and overread something about "it uses the wrong mic" and there was talk about a fix, but i couldn't find something concrete.
I use this and it works, but it’s a very bare-bones SIP client and doesn’t implement the SIP standards as well as other SIP clients. I hope Google pays attention to this feature and makes it more robust going forward.
I see, at least its not totally broken lol. Which version of ICS you are running? I am on 4.03 (Custom rom, Roman's AOKP M4) and have tested it with two sip accounts and it works just fine...
let me know if you need anything else.
cheers
im on aokp b28. i tried it with two handsets, nexus & s2. speaking works, the call receiver hears, but i get nothing back, i hear nothing. i tried it with intervoip and voipcheap.
molesarecoming said:
im on aokp b28. i tried it with two handsets, nexus & s2. speaking works, the call receiver hears, but i get nothing back, i hear nothing. i tried it with intervoip and voipcheap.
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Try speaker mode, screen off could be trimming back your throughput
well, as it turns out nothing works anymore from today on, not even csipsimple, which always did work fine. in my frustration i downloaded a crappy looking client from the providers webpage that gives me forceclosures every now and then, but that one does the job somehow. maybe they changed something in the protocol or something, who knows. still, thank you all so much!
I just purchased the VoIP service from VoIP.ms and it works flawlessly with the built-in sip feature on my galaxy nexus.
If Dell Voice worked with my Bluetooth headset, I would have stuck with it, but VoIP.ms is working so well, a few bucks a month is worth the extra features and built-in stability.
maybe it has somthing to do with how my wifi is configured but whatever i tried i couldnt get it to work. very strange.
molesarecoming said:
maybe it has somthing to do with how my wifi is configured but whatever i tried i couldnt get it to work. very strange.
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Sometimes firewalls will block the ports needed for voip. Have you tried on a different wireless network or your data plan?
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it works with 3rd party apps, well, one worked, the app from the provider itself. i think i blew a couple of bucks already with all the trying, i'll just pass on this. it would be nice to use the native ics feature but i don't see what im doing wrong there. the account-data is right, the connection is made, i hear the receiver but he cant hear me. i tried it with two phones under two wifi configs and it never changed. im starting to think maybe its the voip provider wanting to push its own app, maybe they made something to prevent other apps from working properly. not even csipsimple worked although i never had problems with it on other providers. but this one is so damn good for mobile connections, calls here cost normaly 20-25 cent/min, now im paying 2 ... so i'll take the ugly gingerbread plugin for now.
Is there a difference when using the Native ICS VOIP or something like GrooveIP?
I use my Inc 2 as pseudo landline with SIP calling. Google Voice and PBXes is how I did it. Really simple actually since you can have sipdroid make a gtalk truck with your Google voice. Everything else that needs to be done is the trunk password needs to be your Google password and you need to setup inbound and outbound routing to the proper extension. Then setup internet calling to point to your pbxes account and make sure it connects. And inbound and outbound calling to and from your Google voice number works just as if it were an activated phone.
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EP2008 said:
I just purchased the VoIP service from VoIP.ms and it works flawlessly with the built-in sip feature on my galaxy nexus.
If Dell Voice worked with my Bluetooth headset, I would have stuck with it, but VoIP.ms is working so well, a few bucks a month is worth the extra features and built-in stability.
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Just wondering. I have been using native SIP function on my SGS2 with voip.ms service as well. I am running a modded AOSP version of ICS and I noticed if I set to keep alive I find the battery drains heavy. Like 8%/hour with no use. This is the only way to ensure I have no missed calls. In battery stats it shows that Android OS is the culprit.
Are you finding that your battery drains faster also?
When I use Dell Voice I have no battery drain issues at all.
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Just wondering. I have been using native SIP function on my SGS2 with voip.ms service as well. I am running a modded AOSP version of ICS and I noticed if I set to keep alive I find the battery drains heavy. Like 8%/hour with no use. This is the only way to ensure I have no missed calls. In battery stats it shows that Android OS is the culprit.
Are you finding that your battery drains faster also?
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I don’t have this issue using the stock ROM on the GN—and I always send keep-alives 24/7. That said, I tend to be near Wi-Fi most of this day, so I don’t know if this has something to do with it.
kevjef420 said:
Just wondering. I have been using native SIP function on my SGS2 with voip.ms service as well. I am running a modded AOSP version of ICS and I noticed if I set to keep alive I find the battery drains heavy. Like 8%/hour with no use. This is the only way to ensure I have no missed calls. In battery stats it shows that Android OS is the culprit.
Are you finding that your battery drains faster also?
When I use Dell Voice I have no battery drain issues at all.
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No additional battery drain has been noticed since adding VoIP to my phone, even with the "receive calls " option turned on.
I'm on WIFI 100% of my day. I'm not sure if that makes a difference.
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EP2008 said:
No additional battery drain has been noticed since adding VoIP to my phone, even with the "receive calls " option turned on.
I'm on WIFI 100% of my day. I'm not sure if that makes a difference.
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I wonder why it drains my battery so fast. something is happening.
When I use Dell Voice or any other sip client like csip this does not happen.
maybe it is stopping my phone from deep sleep.
kevjef420 said:
I wonder why it drains my battery so fast. something is happening.
When I use Dell Voice or any other sip client like csip this does not happen.
maybe it is stopping my phone from deep sleep.
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Use an app like betterbatterystats and see if you have any rogue wakelocks.
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all voip services that ive tried on my galaxy s3 with "receive calls" enabled will prevent the phone from going into deep sleep. Makes sense because the SIP client needs to contact the SIP server every 30 seconds or so otherwise the SIP server will drop the client. (as i understand it)
Groove IP doesnt wakelock the phone, but I dont like the backend. That is, you can only have one client logged into google chat (which is how groove ip works) at a time. Also it does not support 911 services. both huge issues for any serious investment
SIP is much more flexible aside from the wakelock requirement

Note 3 WiFi Permissions issue

Got a Note 3 right after they came out.
Had an issue with the first one, not the least of which was the pervasive WiFi disconnect issue many of us have been seeing; in my case also had extreme battery drop all of a sudden - like 45% in an hour - not abnormal use.. So, swapped it about 20 days ago for another one.
Seeing the same WiFi connectivity issue I saw with the first one and then all of a sudden got a pop up :
"Prevention Information"
An application has been forced to stop for an unauthorized attempt to access system in your device. It may be safe to delete an application obtained from an unauthorized route. Check Now? (with a Do not show for 30 days check box; Cancel or Ok buttons)
If you click cancel pop up comes back after about 10 mins more or less; if you click Ok you get brought to a list of what you have downloaded to weed through whatever you've installed.
Full disclosure: This device is out of the box, not rooted; stock Rom. Only none play store apps installed were Adobe Flash and Amazon App store. I use WiFi extensively for WiFi calling at my office, since there isn't a carrier on the planet can get me a decent signal. I live and die behind WiFi calling it's why I went T-Mobile to start with.
* So I proceed to scan hell out of this, using Lookout, Sophos and MalwareBytes can't find anything..
* Ok so I uninstall everything I've been experimenting with thinking maybe the mix is a problem. Doesn't solve it
* So then I do a software Backup and restore - and go to put back the one app I need the most for my Hosted Exchange connectivity to work the best for my needs adding them back one at a time to see what's causing this . Of course I turn WiFi back on to connect to my network and signing into my Google Account Google Play takes off to restore all my stuff and do all updates for anything stock on the phone. (Phone Vendors WAKE UP; Stop making the default Google Play behavior Up Date Automatically when on WiFi, let the user decide before taking off to do what you think is best) And - The pop up is back just as I get the 1 app I need on the phone. (email support for the app saying it's them - MANY APOLOGIES to Nitro Desk, it's not them.
* Very long story and many soft and hard resets, to try control the behavior, later; including running 2 miles up the road to control Google Play auto update on WiFi, but, only be on the T-Mobile network for the initial startup....
With nothing but a minimal start-up and No Apps installed other than what Google Play demanded to be able to work at all out of the box when signing in; once I got the phone back to the office and started WiFi for my network - Blammo ! the pop up is back.
This "error" or warning message is from the base Android/Samsung/T-Mobile deployment configuration for a Note 3 when starting WiFi at all.
So, I happen to be near the T-Mobile store I bought this at and go in to tell them about this and the guys there running a Note 3 say they all get the same issue.
My conclusion is that this is a miss-configuration of software and/or permissions at the core OS level when starting WiFi; likely contributing or the primary cause of WiFi connectivity issues on this device; as reported in this and other forums.
I have screenies of this condition and would love to pass this to T-Mobile and Samsung engineering, but, unlikely I can get at them to do so; hopefully they are already aware of this and working on a fix.
The other interesting thing I noticed is that when doing a hard reset: during the start of recovery mode I get an "error" then no command message under the little droid as it settles down to the menu.
Also at the end of the recovery mode process for wipe data/factory reset I get an "error" message in red as well.
Again, seems to me there's a serious flaw in their Core programming setting up proper permissions for the base WiFi stack to start without triggering a security violation.
It doesn't matter if you connect to an AP or not. Just starting WiFi the pop up will come up in 60 - 90 seconds.
This is consistently reproducible.
T-Mobile is sending me another phone; but, I believe it will behave the same way - hope not, we'll see.
cef1000
You really need to SEARCH before posting. There are many threads about Prevention Information and it has nothing to do with WiFi.
krelvinaz said:
You really need to SEARCH before posting. There are many threads about Prevention Information and it has nothing to do with WiFi.
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That may be, but, in this case it is 100% reproducible under these conditions and happens if WiFi is turned on at all before any updates and before any additional apps are installed, other than the ones the Play store insists on bringing in to work properly once initially signing in, happens to me in this very limited and controlled startup of the device and only when starting WiFi and no other time in that controlled condition; before any updates or Play Store apps are installed.
It also happens after they are; so it seemed,to me at least, to have value because of the controlled diagnostic startup; since the condition is 100% reproducible using these steps and under these limited initial startup conditions, at least on the device I have in my hands at the moment.
A replacement should be here sometime today and will attempt to reproduce it on the replacement; T-Mobile tech support seems to think it will behave the same way as well; FWIW to anyone.
Thanks so much for the input and advice; duly noted.
Best regards,
cef1000
Knock yourself out....
You might try doing a simple Google Search for samsung "Prevention Information" and see just how many threads there are about this issue. It is not just the Note 3 but a number of other Samsung devices as well.
Actually it has everything to do with wifi. Knox is thinking wifi is trying to collect information from your device as if it is a type of virus. Samsung is fully aware of the issue & there is an update coming based around that specific issue.
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sIpInWiT mYdRoId said:
Actually it has everything to do with wifi. Knox is thinking wifi is trying to collect information from your device as if it is a type of virus. Samsung is fully aware of the issue & there is an update coming based around that specific issue.
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+1 Thank you slpn...
I'm glad to hear there's some fix in the works. Do you have a link handy for that? It's clear that the shipped Knox/SEAndroid configuration shipped on this device (and perhaps other Samsung models) really wasn't tuned very well before release.
OP, if you want to know more about this read some of the other threads here about Knox - the Everything Knox thread in this forum is pretty good IIRC, and the Samsung Knox whitepaper is an interesting read too (here). Basically, Samsung rolled their own solution for bring-your-own-device enterprise users, which is based in part on the SELinux extensions to Android (SEAndroid) along with some lower-level supervisory logic that's probably somewhere in the boot loader / modem / etc. [speculation] and some degree of hardware support such as the "knox warranty void" flag.
Unfortunately they developed this alongside/outside the reference implementation of SEAndroid, wrote their own APIs for interaction, etc. and don't seem to have done it terribly well. I'm tempted to ask that Samsung provide some way to actually control it, or provide a signed development FW that won't trip the hardware flag, as it really is an intrusion for non-enterprise customers. >.<
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Actually it has everything to do with wifi. Knox is thinking wifi is trying to collect information from your device as if it is a type of virus. Samsung is fully aware of the issue & there is an update coming based around that specific issue.
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Actually I've gotten the notification without wifi although it usually happens when I do turn it on.
Totally agree though that a simple search would have saved a HELLS of a lot of trouble. Smh
Yes it's a bug but it's not really that big of an issue. I can almost guarantee it will be fixed soon with some kind of minor update.
Well I have two other issues besides the "prevention information" for some reason my note 3 keeps giving me a unstable wifi connection when the connection to the wifi is good for example on my note 2 is perfect mo issues no lags on the note 3 however I get that unstable wifi connection, and for my second issue I get a damn google+ app crash every time im on the phone or any app . This note 3 has become a nightmare with bugs . I was wondering if anyone else has the same issues besides the prevention information ???
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westkhalifa13 said:
Well I have two other issues besides the "prevention information" for some reason my note 3 keeps giving me a unstable wifi connection when the connection to the wifi is good for example on my note 2 is perfect mo issues no lags on the note 3 however I get that unstable wifi connection, and for my second issue I get a damn google+ app crash every time im on the phone or any app . This note 3 has become a nightmare with bugs . I was wondering if anyone else has the same issues besides the prevention information ???
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I think I had the unstable connection problem a long time ago. I may have made my phone "forget" my wifi network and obviously have connected to it since and have not have that problem. So it's possible simply "forgetting" the network, scanning, and then connecting to it again could fix it?
How often do you use Google+? Is it possible that if you hardly use it you could just sign out of the app and then it won't search for your location so much? I see the new G+ update says something about refreshing friends location more often or something, could be tied in to that?
I dont use google+ at all. It updated on its own and it started crashing since. I just turnt off all my auto updates and I uninstalled the last google+ update lets see if that does the trick .
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westkhalifa13 said:
I dont use google+ at all. It updated on its own and it started crashing since. I just turnt off all my auto updates and I uninstalled the last google+ update lets see if that does the trick .
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You can take it how you'd like cause i know how some are when they hear about an update, not saying your one of these people who flame on the other person who try to provide helpful info about an update, but that is also being included in the update i spoke of a few posts above.
What is going on is your phone is scanning your signal & even if you have a full WiFi signal, instead of just leaving you on WiFi like you'd like, it boots you off of WiFi saying internet is unstable if it considers the data connection as being a stronger signal. its a real ignorant move and overlook they made when adding this function. if on WiFi they should let you choose if you want to change connections,or better yet not even bother you to choose between the 2 cause it will interfere with what your doing at that time while you have to choose which connection you want to use. But this is involved with the update we are getting. Verizon already got an update that had to do with WiFi issues with this being one of the issues it fixed.
If you haven't been told yet though, go in to WiFi advanced settings in your WiFi connections menu, and turn off auto connect & always scanning, then dial *#0011#, click your bottom left button on the white part of the phone you'd usually use to bring up the settings menu option, choose WiFi, turn off WiFi power save mode, WiFi power save mode being tuned off cause your battery to drain about 25% faster but this is proven to work. But after a day or 2 always leave WiFi auto connect off & always scanning off, but you can then dial *#0011# & turn WiFi power save mode back on & it's almost as if those functions done together trains your phone to not boot you off WiFi anymore. This seriously works and definitely helps many i have offered the information to. Me and about 3 others figured out how to do this in a thread about 2wks after the phone was released because the wifi booting us off was killing us. People had told us to just turn off auto connect but that would just stop the pop up, but you'd still be getting booted off from WiFi but just wouldn't be told by the pop up yet you'd know because the page you'd be loading on the browser would just stop loading, or say something your using like Facebook would lose signal & tell you an error occurred. Hope this large posts helps you if you read it or anyone else who stumbles upon it.
westkhalifa13 said:
I dont use google+ at all. It updated on its own and it started crashing since. I just turnt off all my auto updates and I uninstalled the last google+ update lets see if that does the trick .
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You have to actually go into the Google+ app to see if you are signed in, unfortunately it will automatically sign you in if you are not already. So even if you accidentally open G+ or some other program or app causes it to open, you still need to actually sign out of it. Hopefully uninstalling the updates does the trick.
Auto connect in wifi advance settings is the network switch box right ???
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westkhalifa13 said:
Auto connect in wifi advance settings is the network switch box right ???
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Yes thats it.
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i had a wifi problem with my Note 2 before and now it is better with my Note 3.

WiFi Assistant blocks outgoing email

Has anyone noticed that WiFi assistant blocks outgoing email when using a third party app?
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NWTSCL said:
Has anyone noticed that WiFi assistant blocks outgoing email when using a third party app?
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I have a 3rd party app named.....
When ever i am using Wifi Assistant i cant sent email.
Does anyone else experience the same issue?
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parakleet said:
I have a 3rd party app named.....
When ever i am using Wifi Assistant i cant sent email.
Does anyone else experience the same issue?
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Sounds like you app is having a problem with the securing of teh tunnel.
Could be any number of reasons.
NAT Translation, packet changes.
You might want to check out there support
I do not have that issue but I use to have problems with wifi assistant blocking open wifi networks as the open networks would connect but show no internet connection so I just learned to not use the wifi assistant at all.
I first reported this to Google when the Pixel was released. I spoke with them again today. After a rather lengthy call, the tech finally said that he was aware of my initial call, but that it is difficult for them to fix because it is "very uncommon". Happens to me every time the Assistant is connected.
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I first reported this to Google when the Pixel was released. I spoke with them again today. After a rather lengthy call, the tech finally said that he was aware of my initial call, but that it is difficult for them to fix because it is "very uncommon". Happens to me every time the Assistant is connected.
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I had reported my issue also and verizon got google on the phone with us and just discussed what the issue was and said they would get back with me but did they ? Answer is of course not nothing ever back and that was back in early November.
Yeah their cs sucks. I even upgraded to a 128 xl and had same issue on it and back then my open wifi would not work at all would connect but list no internet and the sign in accept screen for all the open networks the phones would not load them fully to hit accept.
Up until about a month ago I could not get any open wifi to work at all and still have issues at times and I have to hit forget network and re add sometimes even multiple times and even turn on or off wifi assistant and turn wifi on and off and even toggle airplane mode numerous times. And all these times my Unlocked Htc 10 would work great on the same open wifi networks.
And the stupid thing was these pixel xls always worked great on wifi networks that require a password, go figure they try to add more protection and just lock us out from using open networks so we have to use our data plans yeah verizon likes that part lol more money for them lol.
NWTSCL said:
I first reported this to Google when the Pixel was released. I spoke with them again today. After a rather lengthy call, the tech finally said that he was aware of my initial call, but that it is difficult for them to fix because it is "very uncommon". Happens to me every time the Assistant is connected.
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Does it happen with any other VPN service?
What is the app?
M9guy said:
I had reported my issue also and verizon got google on the phone with us and just discussed what the issue was and said they would get back with me but did they ? Answer is of course not nothing ever back and that was back in early November.
Yeah their cs sucks. I even upgraded to a 128 xl and had same issue on it and back then my open wifi would not work at all would connect but list no internet and the sign in accept screen for all the open networks the phones would not load them fully to hit accept.
Up until about a month ago I could not get any open wifi to work at all and still have issues at times and I have to hit forget network and re add sometimes even multiple times and even turn on or off wifi assistant and turn wifi on and off and even toggle airplane mode numerous times. And all these times my Unlocked Htc 10 would work great on the same open wifi networks.
And the stupid thing was these pixel xls always worked great on wifi networks that require a password, go figure they try to add more protection and just lock us out from using open networks so we have to use our data plans yeah verizon likes that part lol more money for them lol.
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I did some reading back when I first got a Nexus 6P, and it stated that the secure assistant feature will keep you from using unsecured networks that have low reception or strength. I don't know of the legitimacy of this, and the only reason I researched it was because I had the issue of connected but no internet. I idea I walked away with was that the connection was not good enough for the VPN to actually do it's job? When I don't use the Secure Assistant on the network(I work at a hospital), the connection often drops off or I often get the sit and wait for things to load issue.
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Does it happen with any other VPN service?
What is the app?
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I don't know about any other service. My app is called AquaMail Pro
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I don't know about any other service. My app is called AquaMail Pro
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Hey have you ever tried Blue mail or type mail ? I have tried most including Aquamail and Blue mail and Type mail seem to be some of the best, they are some of the very few apps that have a lot of downloads and have a 4.6 and 4.7 rating. I just thought you might have an interest, if not and if you are happy with that app more power to ya

P Beta - Agressive WiFi to Cellular Handover

Does anyone know of a way to get aggressive wifi to cellular handover back in Android P? It used to be an option under developer options.
It's still there. Under networking. Turn off mobile data always active.
Like me lol
That's not the same thing. In older versions that was there but there was also the aggressive handover option.
My problem is that whenever I'm right outside of my work building it keeps connecting to wifi, but the signal is so weak nothing happens until I turn off wifi.
With the option that used to be there this wasn't a problem.
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That's not the same thing. In older versions that was there but there was also the aggressive handover option.
My problem is that whenever I'm right outside of my work building it keeps connecting to wifi, but the signal is so weak nothing happens until I turn off wifi.
With the option that used to be there this wasn't a problem.
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Oh yes! Now I remember what you're talking about. Sorry man.
Maybe it's just not available yet in the betas.
So... this setting is missing on the official version also... did it move somewhere else or was it removed permanently?
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So... this setting is missing on the official version also... did it move somewhere else or was it removed permanently?
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I no longer see it either, but remember using it back on my 6P.
The mobile data always being on should work just fine for that though.
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Perhaps some cellular provider business partners urged Google to make some more money for them.. and voilá.. there goes your "agressive handover" switch.. Instead of really useful, real customer-usecase driven features, like this, we get a dozen of useless vapor-features like digital wellbeing, that no one ever uses. Thanks, Google

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