VOIP/SIP calls with native ICS client - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

we recently found out that ics allows native voip calling, which is awesome if you want to save craploads of money. but did anyone here ever manage to get it working? the problem is that i hear nothing, the receiver can hear me just fine.
it's so weird because all third party clients i tried work flawlessly, csipsimple for instance. this app in particular is really, really nice, but it muddles ics with that gingerbread look, i'd prefer the native client if it only worked. so there must be something im doing wrong. but what?

It could be a lot of things that have been setup wrongly or your voip provider doesn't allow it.
For me, I have it working perfectly on gnex. The provider I am using is poivy (poivy.com).
They provide details of how to setup their service in voip capable devices. I simply copied the values from the info page they provided and was able to make it work after some failed attempts.
I found that there is a tricky part in process where you have to setup the Optional Settings in the SIP Account Details. I had to enter the Authentication username. Its simply your user name as you entered it in the Username field in the same settings page above the Optional Settings. Its seems odd to have the user name entered twice but that did for me.
If all fails, try setting up an account at poivy.com, they give you free calls to US numbers. That would iron out that your provider doesn't allow you to setup a voip on something other than the software they provide.
Let me know if u need more details or help...
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im mostly using wifi so the provider can go screw itself, but i tested it outside the building with csipsimple and luckily it works, phew. its only this google thing that i could never get to work ... i mean the data is fine, it finds my account and the call goes through, but its of no use since the receiver does not hear a thing, i hear him though. i researched before and overread something about "it uses the wrong mic" and there was talk about a fix, but i couldn't find something concrete.

I use this and it works, but it’s a very bare-bones SIP client and doesn’t implement the SIP standards as well as other SIP clients. I hope Google pays attention to this feature and makes it more robust going forward.

I see, at least its not totally broken lol. Which version of ICS you are running? I am on 4.03 (Custom rom, Roman's AOKP M4) and have tested it with two sip accounts and it works just fine...
let me know if you need anything else.
cheers

im on aokp b28. i tried it with two handsets, nexus & s2. speaking works, the call receiver hears, but i get nothing back, i hear nothing. i tried it with intervoip and voipcheap.

molesarecoming said:
im on aokp b28. i tried it with two handsets, nexus & s2. speaking works, the call receiver hears, but i get nothing back, i hear nothing. i tried it with intervoip and voipcheap.
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Try speaker mode, screen off could be trimming back your throughput

well, as it turns out nothing works anymore from today on, not even csipsimple, which always did work fine. in my frustration i downloaded a crappy looking client from the providers webpage that gives me forceclosures every now and then, but that one does the job somehow. maybe they changed something in the protocol or something, who knows. still, thank you all so much!

I just purchased the VoIP service from VoIP.ms and it works flawlessly with the built-in sip feature on my galaxy nexus.
If Dell Voice worked with my Bluetooth headset, I would have stuck with it, but VoIP.ms is working so well, a few bucks a month is worth the extra features and built-in stability.

maybe it has somthing to do with how my wifi is configured but whatever i tried i couldnt get it to work. very strange.

molesarecoming said:
maybe it has somthing to do with how my wifi is configured but whatever i tried i couldnt get it to work. very strange.
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Sometimes firewalls will block the ports needed for voip. Have you tried on a different wireless network or your data plan?
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it works with 3rd party apps, well, one worked, the app from the provider itself. i think i blew a couple of bucks already with all the trying, i'll just pass on this. it would be nice to use the native ics feature but i don't see what im doing wrong there. the account-data is right, the connection is made, i hear the receiver but he cant hear me. i tried it with two phones under two wifi configs and it never changed. im starting to think maybe its the voip provider wanting to push its own app, maybe they made something to prevent other apps from working properly. not even csipsimple worked although i never had problems with it on other providers. but this one is so damn good for mobile connections, calls here cost normaly 20-25 cent/min, now im paying 2 ... so i'll take the ugly gingerbread plugin for now.

Is there a difference when using the Native ICS VOIP or something like GrooveIP?

I use my Inc 2 as pseudo landline with SIP calling. Google Voice and PBXes is how I did it. Really simple actually since you can have sipdroid make a gtalk truck with your Google voice. Everything else that needs to be done is the trunk password needs to be your Google password and you need to setup inbound and outbound routing to the proper extension. Then setup internet calling to point to your pbxes account and make sure it connects. And inbound and outbound calling to and from your Google voice number works just as if it were an activated phone.
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EP2008 said:
I just purchased the VoIP service from VoIP.ms and it works flawlessly with the built-in sip feature on my galaxy nexus.
If Dell Voice worked with my Bluetooth headset, I would have stuck with it, but VoIP.ms is working so well, a few bucks a month is worth the extra features and built-in stability.
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Just wondering. I have been using native SIP function on my SGS2 with voip.ms service as well. I am running a modded AOSP version of ICS and I noticed if I set to keep alive I find the battery drains heavy. Like 8%/hour with no use. This is the only way to ensure I have no missed calls. In battery stats it shows that Android OS is the culprit.
Are you finding that your battery drains faster also?
When I use Dell Voice I have no battery drain issues at all.

kevjef420 said:
Just wondering. I have been using native SIP function on my SGS2 with voip.ms service as well. I am running a modded AOSP version of ICS and I noticed if I set to keep alive I find the battery drains heavy. Like 8%/hour with no use. This is the only way to ensure I have no missed calls. In battery stats it shows that Android OS is the culprit.
Are you finding that your battery drains faster also?
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I don’t have this issue using the stock ROM on the GN—and I always send keep-alives 24/7. That said, I tend to be near Wi-Fi most of this day, so I don’t know if this has something to do with it.

kevjef420 said:
Just wondering. I have been using native SIP function on my SGS2 with voip.ms service as well. I am running a modded AOSP version of ICS and I noticed if I set to keep alive I find the battery drains heavy. Like 8%/hour with no use. This is the only way to ensure I have no missed calls. In battery stats it shows that Android OS is the culprit.
Are you finding that your battery drains faster also?
When I use Dell Voice I have no battery drain issues at all.
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No additional battery drain has been noticed since adding VoIP to my phone, even with the "receive calls " option turned on.
I'm on WIFI 100% of my day. I'm not sure if that makes a difference.
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EP2008 said:
No additional battery drain has been noticed since adding VoIP to my phone, even with the "receive calls " option turned on.
I'm on WIFI 100% of my day. I'm not sure if that makes a difference.
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I wonder why it drains my battery so fast. something is happening.
When I use Dell Voice or any other sip client like csip this does not happen.
maybe it is stopping my phone from deep sleep.

kevjef420 said:
I wonder why it drains my battery so fast. something is happening.
When I use Dell Voice or any other sip client like csip this does not happen.
maybe it is stopping my phone from deep sleep.
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Use an app like betterbatterystats and see if you have any rogue wakelocks.
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all voip services that ive tried on my galaxy s3 with "receive calls" enabled will prevent the phone from going into deep sleep. Makes sense because the SIP client needs to contact the SIP server every 30 seconds or so otherwise the SIP server will drop the client. (as i understand it)
Groove IP doesnt wakelock the phone, but I dont like the backend. That is, you can only have one client logged into google chat (which is how groove ip works) at a time. Also it does not support 911 services. both huge issues for any serious investment
SIP is much more flexible aside from the wakelock requirement

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[Q] Freezing your account - does it block out any part of the phone?

I'm traveling overseas in September for over half a month and want to call Sprint and get them to freeze my account while I'm gone. I understand the monthly fee is $8.99 (don't know if they will pro-rate it or what) which is much better than paying for that month of service that you hardly use.
Since I'm going out of the country and won't be able to use my EVO, I'm assuming I can freeze my account but still use the phone, just without any mobile wireless capabilities.
The wifi should be able to look up stuff online, check email, and look at Google Maps, correct? I just want to make sure there's not some weird kind of thing that Sprint would lock out all the features of your phone.
Bottom line: you can freeze your account but still use all features besides making calls and sending texts via mobile broadband, right? But all apps (besides GPS) can work off wi-fi, unless the app is specifically designed to use mobile broadband only.
Thank you to anyone who helps!
get you a google voice number and you'll have a phone as long as you're on wifi too
goodelyfe said:
get you a google voice number and you'll have a phone as long as you're on wifi too
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I thought that would be the case too, but GV relies on the phone's non broadband capabilities - so you need mobile broadband/phone line for it to work.
I thought I was being clever and found away to never use minutes by using GV to dial to landlines but that's not the case.
I would venture to say that unless you are traveling somewhere that has cdma coverage, your normal phone related functions won't work anyway since you won't have reception. You really shouldn't need to pay a fee to basically disable the phone portion of your phone since on the evo, you have the option to have the airplane mode exclude wifi from the radios it disables. I traveled to the UK back in april and can attest to the fact that the wifi on my old pre worked without a hitch and I can also confirm that it did not receive signal either so there were no incoming calls or sms messages to worry about. All that said, you shouldn't have any trouble with wifi. As long as you're on wifi, google maps should work just fine as well.
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jwterminator said:
I would venture to say that unless you are traveling somewhere that has cdma coverage, your normal phone related functions won't work anyway since you won't have reception. You really shouldn't need to pay a fee to basically disable the phone portion of your phone since on the evo, you have the option to have the airplane mode exclude wifi from the radios it disables. I traveled to the UK back in april and can attest to the fact that the wifi on my old pre worked without a hitch and I can also confirm that it did not receive signal either so there were no incoming calls or sms messages to worry about. All that said, you shouldn't have any trouble with wifi. As long as you're on wifi, google maps should work just fine as well.
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OK thanks, I didn't want to assume anything, because, you know, I really wouldn't be surprised if a company froze more than just sending/receiving texts/calls capability (in addition to web surfing obviously).
I just don't want to pay almost $100 for 2 weeks of service out of the month - so I need to give em a call and see if they can freeze it for 2 weeks and charge me half as much, that way I can save a little cash.
pekosROB said:
I thought that would be the case too, but GV relies on the phone's non broadband capabilities - so you need mobile broadband/phone line for it to work.
I thought I was being clever and found away to never use minutes by using GV to dial to landlines but that's not the case.
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hmmm are you sure?
i do remember using without the mobile broadband/phoneline and just wifi
goodelyfe said:
hmmm are you sure?
i do remember using without the mobile broadband/phoneline and just wifi
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Did you use it through a SIP program or just the GV app by itself? I will have to test it out when I'm there.
i blv i done it both ways.
also sorry bro for going off topic in your thread...lol just thought it might help lol
goodelyfe said:
i blv i done it both ways.
also sorry bro for going off topic in your thread...lol just thought it might help lol
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Well that would be even better, I do hope you're right!
Any VOIP should work on wi-fi... damn skype and Fring shenanigans... I was so looking forward to that when I deployed... would have made it so much easier to communicate with my wife. (shes not real big on technology and my short fuse of trying to setup/explain how to do new things sucks) lol...
You basically sumed it up, all apps should work fine unless they need specific network support. In my past experiences with deploying for short terms, it was actually just easier to suck it up and pay the bill instead of downgrading service. They don't always get it right and if you end up coming back early it can be a PITA to get it back on..
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Any VOIP should work on wi-fi... damn skype and Fring shenanigans... I was so looking forward to that when I deployed... would have made it so much easier to communicate with my wife. (shes not real big on technology and my short fuse of trying to setup/explain how to do new things sucks) lol...
You basically sumed it up, all apps should work fine unless they need specific network support. In my past experiences with deploying for short terms, it was actually just easier to suck it up and pay the bill instead of downgrading service. They don't always get it right and if you end up coming back early it can be a PITA to get it back on..
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Thanks, I was thinking about the same thing about it being such a pain in the ass to deal with it as well... and when I finally get back stateside at least I'll definitely have service.
Although Google Voice requires the mobile network for phone, it uses data for sms and I expect mms. So if you had WiFi access you would have texting available.
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Any app with a Playbook-like function?

I'm looking for an app that I can put on both my thunderbolt and a100 tablet that will foreward my texts to my tablet (maybe through wifi or Bluetooth) and would be able to reply to them with my tablet, and when someone calls, I would see the caller I'd, but not necessarily be able to answer and calls on the tab. As I'm sure that technology is impossible to incorperate at present time.
ummmmm............ could you repeat that?
6stringandy said:
I'm looking for an app that I can put on both my thunderbolt and a100 tablet that will foreward my texts to my tablet (maybe through wifi or Bluetooth) and would be able to reply to them with my tablet, and when someone calls, I would see the caller I'd, but not necessarily be able to answer and calls on the tab. As I'm sure that technology is impossible to incorperate at present time.
ummmmm............ could you repeat that?
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For the text I use textab between the tablet and my G2X. It works over bluetooth.
Sorry for Caller ID I have no idea.
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this one looks like it will cover your needs. Good reviews and an XDA developer. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1206798
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For the text I use textab between the tablet and my G2X. It works over bluetooth.
Sorry for Caller ID I have no idea.
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this one looks like it will cover your needs. Good reviews and an XDA developer. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1206798
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Greatly appreciated, you are awesome!!!
ummmmm............ could you repeat that?
GoogleVoice, my friend. Takes some setting up (and getting friends to switch over), but once you do, you'll never look back.
Google voice is cool but it only works with a WIFI connection. With my suggestions you can use your tablet with a bluetooth connection to your phone while away from a hot spot.
painter_ said:
Google voice is cool but it only works with a WIFI connection. With my suggestions you can use your tablet with a bluetooth connection to your phone while away from a hot spot.
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This is true, but my phone is my hot spot. I still have the unlimited data (and I hate that for alot of others since July) so I just use wifi tether from my rooted tbolt. Can't wait for my area to get 4g, haven't hard the pleasure of using it yet, seeing as I don't get out much
But I'm still loving this tablet though! Just wish alot more games were compatible with Android 3.2. Like Dead Space.
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Groove IP settings!!

I need help with the Groove IP applications! No matter what I do, the person I call always hears an echo.. I used echo reduction but then they said I was breaking up! Anyone know of a good setting adjustment?? Please help!!
I'm also interested in what settings people here are using with GrooveIP on the G2/DZ. So if you're reading this and running Groove, let us know what all your settings tweaks are and what kind of voice quality/problems you have.
It would also help if everybody (specially the OP) mentioned the approximate Speedtest speeds they're getting, and whether they're using WiFi or 4g, etc.
I just installed Groove the other day, and I'm still waiting for a new DSL/landline to be installed at my location so that I can do some testing with it. (and stop "borrowing" a neighbor's crappy WiFi - friggin' AT&T disconnected my DSL when I got my landline number ported to my cell...grrr) So I haven't really got to test it yet, but I will report back when I get a chance.
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AT&T disconnected my DSL when I got my landline number ported to my cell...grrr
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No land line no dsl..one of the manyg reasons not to get crap dsl.
And what is grooveIP?
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I was on wifi.. not sure about speed.. but I had full bars if that counts for anything..
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[Guide] (4.2 ! )Wifi Calling for Galaxy Nexus -- UPDATED

Updated! Now works on 4.2! Updated!
Hi All-- I really miss Tmobile wifi calling, and I have finally put together a system which works for me...so I thought I would share it if anyone is interested.
It works about as well as Wifi Calling did on my Tmobile Gs2.
I have found this to have two main benefits over the Groove IP method put together by codesplice here: (note: all credit goes to codesplice--he did the heavy lifting on this..I just modified his approach)
1) the call quality is a LOT better. a LOT LOT LOT better. Groove IP sucks.
2) with this method, calls will still ring through to your gmail (assuming you have it set up that way in google voice)
Download these apps to your phone:
CSIPSimple
Google Voice
Google Voice Callback (donate) (you can get it from the amazon appstore...not on the play store anymore for some reason)
Tasker (you need the newest beta, available here http://tasker.dinglisch.net/beta.html )
Secure settings
Download this file, unzip it, and put the files on your phone's SD card (tasker profiles):
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4nxPgKYHIDjbVN1b3IzNC0wd1E/edit?usp=sharing
Instructions:
1) Go to Callcentric.com and sign up for a free account. Write down your SIP number that it gives you (it will start with 1777)
2) also in callcentric, sign up for a free phone number. If you say that you live in the us, you have to pay for 911 access....
3) Open CSIPSimple on your phone. It will pop up with some questions about when you want it to work. I have mine set to ONLY be in use when I am connected to a wifi network. Then add an account. It will have an option for callcentric. Do that and sign in with your callcentric account (username is the 1777 number again).
4) Go to voice.google.com on your computer, go to the settings page, and add the new phone number that you got from callcentric (the phone number, not the 1777 number). It will call you to confirm the number...it should ring through to your phone! (note: under your regular cell number, choose 'edit>advanced>make sure that "Ring my other phones before going to voicemail " is checked)
--You have now set it up for incoming calls. If that's all you care about, you are done! Any call made to your google voice number will ring through to your phone via wifi calling.--
Now we're going to set it up to make outgoing calls
5) Open Google Voice Callback. Sign in with your account. In the settings, choose your new callcentric phone number as the callback number. That's it! you're set! now when you initiate an outgoing call, it will ring back to you, and you are good to go for free wifi calling!
--If you don't care about automating it, you can stop now.--
We're now going to set it up so that it works like WIFI calling, meaning that it a) turns on when connected to a good wifi network, b) turns off your cell radio when connected so you're not wasting battery, and c) it turns off automatically when you are not connected to wifi. We will do this with the miracle of tasker.
6) Make SURE you are on the latest beta of tasker. It is required for this to work!
You can find the newest beta here: http://tasker.dinglisch.net/beta.html
DL this zip file that I put together with my tasker profiles, unzip the files and put them on your SD card. Open up tasker and long-press on the 'profiles' tab. Choose import, and then import them.
Ze hu! You're done! Please let me know if it works--and I'm happy to try to help if it doesn't.
If it works for you, please click 'thanks'!
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Note--the tasker profiles were put together originally by codesplice, and all credit for them goes to him, not me. You can find his thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646755
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The advantage of CSIPSimple over the native SIP client in JB is that CSIPSimple can be set to only operate when connected to wifi.
I hope this is useful for everyone--works great for me!
How's this compare to groove ip?
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dipole said:
How's this compare to groove ip?
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This has two benefits over groove ip:
1) the call quality is a LOT better. a LOT LOT LOT better.
2) with this method, calls will still ring through to your gmail (assuming you have it set up that way in google voice)
The advantage of CSIPSimple over the native SIP client in ICS is that CSIPSimple can be set to only operate when connected to wifi.
Will this work on phone data or wi-fi only?
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Will this work on phone data or wi-fi only?
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I have it specifically set up so that it only works on wifi--I don't want it on 3g.
However, if you want it to work over a data connection, that's just a simple settings change in the CSIPSimple app for incoming, and then you'll want to modify the tasker profile that interacts with Google Voice Callback so that outgoing goes through GVCB by default on 3g as well.
I tried creating 2 different accounts at ipkall and each time I get my phone number and try to put it into GV I get an error saying that the number is already in use by 2 other accounts!
4th account was the charm, thanks!
Keep trying....and try a different area code. If a number isn't used for 30 days it resets and is assigned again
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Did the tasker profiles import correctly?
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I quickly put together this set-up, using just the native SIP integration and I'm loving the results so far. I'm going to tinker with this and give a try over the Groove set-up. The ICS integration alone has me sold. Thanks
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I quickly put together this set-up, using just the native SIP integration and I'm loving the results so far. I'm going to tinker with this and give a try over the Groove set-up. The ICS integration alone has me sold. Thanks
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Really quick question regarding this topic. Are these wifi calls for free? Tmobile call me today to see how I was doing after a week with their service and ask me if I wanted to add free wifi calling. I asked the lady if it was free she said it was and it wouldn't count in my minutes is this true?
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jgalan14 said:
Really quick question regarding this topic. Are these wifi calls for free? Tmobile call me today to see how I was doing after a week with their service and ask me if I wanted to add free wifi calling. I asked the lady if it was free she said it was and it wouldn't count in my minutes is this true?
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Yes, if done correctly the calls are free. With my phone in airplane mode and wi-fi on, all calls go through Google Voice then through the free SIP account(s)
jgalan14 said:
Really quick question regarding this topic. Are these wifi calls for free? Tmobile call me today to see how I was doing after a week with their service and ask me if I wanted to add free wifi calling. I asked the lady if it was free she said it was and it wouldn't count in my minutes is this true?
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T-Mobile doesn't have wifi calling for the Galaxy Nexus.
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joshnichols189 said:
T-Mobile doesn't have wifi calling for the Galaxy Nexus.
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I know it doesn't but I still got the HTC one s so I was just wondering thanks
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jgalan14 said:
I know it doesn't but I still got the HTC one s so I was just wondering thanks
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Should have specified these are free but you should use the inbuilt wifi calling on the One S
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Is there an alternative to gv callback? I'd prefer not to have the amazon appstore installed. Thanks for this. The incoming call quality is much better than groove. I've been testing multiple setups on my ns4g before I move to the gn in a few weeks.
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Yes, Voice+ is what I'm using right now. Working so far. Only problem I have with this is that all your outgoing calls come up as calls from your Goole Voice number.
I used voice plus originally, but it doesn't allow different profiles for wifi vs cell (gvcb has tasker integration)
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Only problem I have with this is that all your outgoing calls come up as calls from your Goole Voice number.
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Does anyone know of a service that will display my cell number as opposed to the GV number on the receiver's side?
Thanks guys I'll check it out.
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s9ortner said:
Is there an alternative to gv callback? I'd prefer not to have the amazon appstore installed. Thanks for this. The incoming call quality is much better than groove. I've been testing multiple setups on my ns4g before I move to the gn in a few weeks.
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Why not uninstall it when you're done..
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[SOLVED with INFO] WiFi Calling and GPS

Is it just me or does having WiFi calling enabled and running use the GPS a lot?
From what i have googled and found is that it does. But i just wanna make sure im not crazy or something or have a rogue app running..
Do any others notice this?
Also, what is it even for? 911 calls?
elesbb said:
Is it just me or does having WiFi calling enabled and running use the GPS a lot?
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I have wifi calling on all the time, and I notice my GPS does activate a lot at random times when I'm not otherwise using any specific apps (usually just saying "searching for location"); however, I haven't noticed a connection between the two (the GPS activating when I make / receive a wifi call)
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I have wifi calling on all the time, and I notice my GPS does activate a lot at random times when I'm not otherwise using any specific apps (usually just saying "searching for location"); however, I haven't noticed a connection between the two (the GPS activating when I make / receive a wifi call)
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Thanks for the reply! It's not necessarily when I make/receive a call. It's just random. I'm gonna take a look at the apk see what it's doing.
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Great, if you find anything post it here. I'm also curious why my phone needs to know my location at all these random times, especially in light of recent news here in the US.
My best guess is that it's related to Google Now (the google voice search thing). Do you have that enabled? They say they periodically take your location to tailor content and make the app "smart" (such as figuring out your home address and telling you how long it will take you to get there from a given location).
Just Another User said:
Great, if you find anything post it here. I'm also curious why my phone needs to know my location at all these random times, especially in light of recent news here in the US.
My best guess is that it's related to Google Now (the google voice search thing). Do you have that enabled? They say they periodically take your location to tailor content and make the app "smart" (such as figuring out your home address and telling you how long it will take you to get there from a given location).
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I don't have the apk installed for Google now. So it can't be that. And I notice it locks my GPS every time I see that WiFi calling notification. So I'm most certainly it's related to that.
And yeah go USA right? Man I don't get our government.
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UPDATE:
So i decompiled the apk, and my suspicions are correct. The GPS for the WiFi calling IS used for emergency calls to locate you more accurately. I am still wondering if i should remove it or not. I may just decrease the interval for how often it locks.
elesbb said:
UPDATE:
So i decompiled the apk, and my suspicions are correct. The GPS for the WiFi calling IS used for emergency calls to locate you more accurately. I am still wondering if i should remove it or not. I may just decrease the interval for how often it locks.
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Thanks for the update.
I thought the wifi calling app was closed source, so you couldn't get into it? If you know of a way to disable the tracking, that would be nice (i'm not a programmer, I just know enough to know what "decompiling an apk is" without being able to actually do it)
Not sure why they'd need this feature (presumably they'd have your location anyway from the IP of the wifi connection), and if I need to call Emergency Services, I'll have to tell them where I am anyway.
Just Another User said:
Thanks for the update.
I thought the wifi calling app was closed source, so you couldn't get into it? If you know of a way to disable the tracking, that would be nice (i'm not a programmer, I just know enough to know what "decompiling an apk is" without being able to actually do it)
Not sure why they'd need this feature (presumably they'd have your location anyway from the IP of the wifi connection), and if I need to call Emergency Services, I'll have to tell them where I am anyway.
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I can disable it. And it makes it easier for emergency personal to find you as exact coordinates are given to them. If you're on cell towers and initiate a 911 call, I believe it automatically sends GPS information. It's just the WiFi calling doesn't use cell towers so it can't grab the location. And I'm sure they can get ip information.
As for it being closed source, I just decompiled the apk responsible for the notification and all the prompts/tutorials, the actual hard core code is found in the lib files which yes are closed source and impossible to reverse engineer.
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