Updated! Now works on 4.2! Updated!
Hi All-- I really miss Tmobile wifi calling, and I have finally put together a system which works for me...so I thought I would share it if anyone is interested.
It works about as well as Wifi Calling did on my Tmobile Gs2.
I have found this to have two main benefits over the Groove IP method put together by codesplice here: (note: all credit goes to codesplice--he did the heavy lifting on this..I just modified his approach)
1) the call quality is a LOT better. a LOT LOT LOT better. Groove IP sucks.
2) with this method, calls will still ring through to your gmail (assuming you have it set up that way in google voice)
Download these apps to your phone:
CSIPSimple
Google Voice
Google Voice Callback (donate) (you can get it from the amazon appstore...not on the play store anymore for some reason)
Tasker (you need the newest beta, available here http://tasker.dinglisch.net/beta.html )
Secure settings
Download this file, unzip it, and put the files on your phone's SD card (tasker profiles):
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4nxPgKYHIDjbVN1b3IzNC0wd1E/edit?usp=sharing
Instructions:
1) Go to Callcentric.com and sign up for a free account. Write down your SIP number that it gives you (it will start with 1777)
2) also in callcentric, sign up for a free phone number. If you say that you live in the us, you have to pay for 911 access....
3) Open CSIPSimple on your phone. It will pop up with some questions about when you want it to work. I have mine set to ONLY be in use when I am connected to a wifi network. Then add an account. It will have an option for callcentric. Do that and sign in with your callcentric account (username is the 1777 number again).
4) Go to voice.google.com on your computer, go to the settings page, and add the new phone number that you got from callcentric (the phone number, not the 1777 number). It will call you to confirm the number...it should ring through to your phone! (note: under your regular cell number, choose 'edit>advanced>make sure that "Ring my other phones before going to voicemail " is checked)
--You have now set it up for incoming calls. If that's all you care about, you are done! Any call made to your google voice number will ring through to your phone via wifi calling.--
Now we're going to set it up to make outgoing calls
5) Open Google Voice Callback. Sign in with your account. In the settings, choose your new callcentric phone number as the callback number. That's it! you're set! now when you initiate an outgoing call, it will ring back to you, and you are good to go for free wifi calling!
--If you don't care about automating it, you can stop now.--
We're now going to set it up so that it works like WIFI calling, meaning that it a) turns on when connected to a good wifi network, b) turns off your cell radio when connected so you're not wasting battery, and c) it turns off automatically when you are not connected to wifi. We will do this with the miracle of tasker.
6) Make SURE you are on the latest beta of tasker. It is required for this to work!
You can find the newest beta here: http://tasker.dinglisch.net/beta.html
DL this zip file that I put together with my tasker profiles, unzip the files and put them on your SD card. Open up tasker and long-press on the 'profiles' tab. Choose import, and then import them.
Ze hu! You're done! Please let me know if it works--and I'm happy to try to help if it doesn't.
If it works for you, please click 'thanks'!
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Note--the tasker profiles were put together originally by codesplice, and all credit for them goes to him, not me. You can find his thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646755
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The advantage of CSIPSimple over the native SIP client in JB is that CSIPSimple can be set to only operate when connected to wifi.
I hope this is useful for everyone--works great for me!
How's this compare to groove ip?
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dipole said:
How's this compare to groove ip?
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This has two benefits over groove ip:
1) the call quality is a LOT better. a LOT LOT LOT better.
2) with this method, calls will still ring through to your gmail (assuming you have it set up that way in google voice)
The advantage of CSIPSimple over the native SIP client in ICS is that CSIPSimple can be set to only operate when connected to wifi.
Will this work on phone data or wi-fi only?
biggiestuff said:
Will this work on phone data or wi-fi only?
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I have it specifically set up so that it only works on wifi--I don't want it on 3g.
However, if you want it to work over a data connection, that's just a simple settings change in the CSIPSimple app for incoming, and then you'll want to modify the tasker profile that interacts with Google Voice Callback so that outgoing goes through GVCB by default on 3g as well.
I tried creating 2 different accounts at ipkall and each time I get my phone number and try to put it into GV I get an error saying that the number is already in use by 2 other accounts!
4th account was the charm, thanks!
Keep trying....and try a different area code. If a number isn't used for 30 days it resets and is assigned again
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Did the tasker profiles import correctly?
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I quickly put together this set-up, using just the native SIP integration and I'm loving the results so far. I'm going to tinker with this and give a try over the Groove set-up. The ICS integration alone has me sold. Thanks
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I quickly put together this set-up, using just the native SIP integration and I'm loving the results so far. I'm going to tinker with this and give a try over the Groove set-up. The ICS integration alone has me sold. Thanks
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Really quick question regarding this topic. Are these wifi calls for free? Tmobile call me today to see how I was doing after a week with their service and ask me if I wanted to add free wifi calling. I asked the lady if it was free she said it was and it wouldn't count in my minutes is this true?
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jgalan14 said:
Really quick question regarding this topic. Are these wifi calls for free? Tmobile call me today to see how I was doing after a week with their service and ask me if I wanted to add free wifi calling. I asked the lady if it was free she said it was and it wouldn't count in my minutes is this true?
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Yes, if done correctly the calls are free. With my phone in airplane mode and wi-fi on, all calls go through Google Voice then through the free SIP account(s)
jgalan14 said:
Really quick question regarding this topic. Are these wifi calls for free? Tmobile call me today to see how I was doing after a week with their service and ask me if I wanted to add free wifi calling. I asked the lady if it was free she said it was and it wouldn't count in my minutes is this true?
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T-Mobile doesn't have wifi calling for the Galaxy Nexus.
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joshnichols189 said:
T-Mobile doesn't have wifi calling for the Galaxy Nexus.
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I know it doesn't but I still got the HTC one s so I was just wondering thanks
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jgalan14 said:
I know it doesn't but I still got the HTC one s so I was just wondering thanks
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Should have specified these are free but you should use the inbuilt wifi calling on the One S
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Is there an alternative to gv callback? I'd prefer not to have the amazon appstore installed. Thanks for this. The incoming call quality is much better than groove. I've been testing multiple setups on my ns4g before I move to the gn in a few weeks.
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Yes, Voice+ is what I'm using right now. Working so far. Only problem I have with this is that all your outgoing calls come up as calls from your Goole Voice number.
I used voice plus originally, but it doesn't allow different profiles for wifi vs cell (gvcb has tasker integration)
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notRodney said:
Only problem I have with this is that all your outgoing calls come up as calls from your Goole Voice number.
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Does anyone know of a service that will display my cell number as opposed to the GV number on the receiver's side?
Thanks guys I'll check it out.
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s9ortner said:
Is there an alternative to gv callback? I'd prefer not to have the amazon appstore installed. Thanks for this. The incoming call quality is much better than groove. I've been testing multiple setups on my ns4g before I move to the gn in a few weeks.
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Why not uninstall it when you're done..
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I just purchased the skype unlimited calling because i need to save on my minutes from verizon. I went to use it and it doesnt work in the united states to make a skype to land line or mobile phone call. It will not use my wifi connection either. Is there a way around this to be able to use skype to place calls over 3g or wifi to land line or mobile?
Wrong section.
were should I post then I need help with getting thus to work
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Droid Incredible Themes and Apps
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This.
Makes sense doesn't it? This has nothing to do with development. -_-
how much did you pay for skype, and why?
jarodcurtis said:
I just purchased the skype unlimited calling because i need to save on my minutes from verizon. I went to use it and it doesnt work in the united states to make a skype to land line or mobile phone call. It will not use my wifi connection either. Is there a way around this to be able to use skype to place calls over 3g or wifi to land line or mobile?
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Go to your market link, and download it for *free* from Verizon. And it's for unlimited Skype to *Skype* calls, routed through Verizon by an agreement/partnership (most probably to keep themselves alive in the distant future).
Oh, yeah: You might wanna work on gettin' your money back.
not really because a way needs to be developed to bypass the lock down from Verizon tgat uses the Verizon minutes instead of routing through Skype when calling a us number... If I were to call Britain it would go through Skype why can there be a work around to use Skype to make a call to land line In the united states ... this is why I put in development .... if some one can do a work around then people can use Skype and not have to waste money on a Verizon calling plan !!
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I have downloaded Skype but it says that u have to use Verizon minutes to make a call through Skype to us land line but can use Skype to call a land line outside of us .... what's with that... does anyone else see how stupid this is for Verizon to have locked thus feature down just do they can get a few extra bucks from people already paying for high priced plans ...
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jarodcurtis said:
I have downloaded Skype but it says that u have to use Verizon minutes to make a call through Skype to us land line but can use Skype to call a land line outside of us .... what's with that... does anyone else see how stupid this is for Verizon to have locked thus feature down just do they can get a few extra bucks from people already paying for high priced plans ...
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Use skype via fring this has been discussed and many say it doesnt use your minutes.
Skype doesn't work worth a damn even with Fring. Ditch Skype and use Fring with a SIP account like freecall. Skype has completely sold out to VZW. Move along now and go to sip which is more open anyway.
I use fring all the time with no issues. The video calls work real well too
what is the best SIP account
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Found the sip settings for wifi calling but wondering if there is a way to get like sipdroid working with these settings.
Anyway the settings are accessible through
javax.microedition.ims/javax.microedition.ims.android.config.ui.SipSettings
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I use a combo of ipkall pbxes and sipdroid and gvoice
Just found an amazing alternative.. It is a 2.99$ paid app called Spare phone. All you do is login with your gvoice account and select which networks you want to use (wifi, data, etc) and adjust settings and it works! None of the run around.
papabear said:
I use a combo of ipkall pbxes and sipdroid and gvoice
Just found an amazing alternative.. It is a 2.99$ paid app called Spare phone. All you do is login with your gvoice account and select which networks you want to use (wifi, data, etc) and adjust settings and it works! None of the run around.
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Aye. Im just trying to see if I can get wifi calling to work from anywere so while overseas I can use my cell number on local data which is usually fairly cheap. I know there are other ways to do it. And I have gvoice just trying to get it this way lol. Thanks for the app suggestion though haven't tryed that one yet.
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papabear said:
I use a combo of ipkall pbxes and sipdroid and gvoice
Just found an amazing alternative.. It is a 2.99$ paid app called Spare phone. All you do is login with your gvoice account and select which networks you want to use (wifi, data, etc) and adjust settings and it works! None of the run around.
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I'm currently using grooveip and I like it. do you like spare phone better though? what about it is better?
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I'm currently using grooveip and I like it. do you like spare phone better though? what about it is better?
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Have not used Spare phone much, but call quality is better. I never had the paid version of groovip, but for some reason I could never get it to work correctly. Always ended up setting up ipkall, sipdroid etc.
I have the paid version of GrooveIp and spare phone as well, spare phone is a thousand times better, many reasons, perfect even on 3g
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ignacio275 said:
I have the paid version of GrooveIp and spare phone as well, spare phone is a thousand times better, many reasons, perfect even on 3g
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how do they compare on battery life?
Don't let Google Voice update on anyone's cell phone! The new update uses cell phone minutes instead of your data plan!
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Which version you have and do you have the apk file for the data version ??
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RDI said:
Don't let Google Voice update on anyone's cell phone! The new update uses cell phone minutes instead of your data plan!
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Unlimited plan, a million roll over minutes
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Which version you have and do you have the apk file for the data version ??
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v 0.4.2.72 is the older version and still should be using your Data Plan. For those of us on unlimited data... this is preferable. Yes, I have a backup copy.
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Oh haha, for real this update uses cell phone's minute instead of data plan?
I thought this update just Improved the reliability of SMS delivery??
Can any1 confirms this?
Too late for me, I already took the update, I did read where it says it now uses plan minutes, would love get a copy of the old apk though.
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Too late for me, I already took the update, I did read where it says it now uses plan minutes, would love get a copy of the old apk though.
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Oh haha, don't you have nanadroid backups?
RDI said:
Don't let Google Voice update on anyone's cell phone! The new update uses cell phone minutes instead of your data plan!
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This is actually good for me. I am on a limited Data plan and never come close to using my voice minutes.
No, they apparently changed more than that too.. The app I've been collaborating with a Dev on, Messaging + Google Voice, is kinda jacked up now with the new update. They did something to block 3rd party notifications, as far as we can tell. It works fine on. 72 tho.
Here's. 4.2.72 if anyone wants it (original)
http://db.tt/SL0zGTQA
And my themed version if anyone wants that
http://db.tt/NqnsK5YC
(also in my sig)
It's ALWAYS used plan minutes. I don't understand what you guys are talking about. The only way you didn't is if you made calls over data/Wifi using GrooveIP or some VoIP app that used your Voice number.
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It's ALWAYS used plan minutes. I don't understand what you guys are talking about. The only way you didn't is if you made calls over data/Wifi using GrooveIP or some VoIP app that used your Voice number.
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The update said overseas calls always did. As of this update, US calls will join that. They have rewritten the update description since the forums started talking about it.
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Subscribed. There is a bit of contradictory info out there as to whether GV uses mins or Data on WiFI.
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Subscribed. There is a bit of contradictory info out there as to whether GV uses mins or Data on WiFI.
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It uses minutes. It always has. I'm telling you. It uses your carrier's minutes, not Google Voice minutes. The My T-Mobile app tells me how many minutes I've used and it always goes down when I make calls through my Voice number (which is my primary number). I have the Voice app set to "Make All Calls Through Voice."
It has ALWAYS used your plan minutes. You guys just don't understand how it works.
Your phone calls Google using your carrier-assigned number ----> Google picks up and connects your call to whoever you actually dialed ("John") ----> John gets the call and sees your Voice number
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It uses minutes. It always has. I'm telling you. It uses your carrier's minutes, not Google Voice minutes. The My T-Mobile app tells me how many minutes I've used and it always goes down when I make calls through my Voice number (which is my primary number). I have the Voice app set to "Make All Calls Through Voice."
It has ALWAYS used your plan minutes. You guys just don't understand how it works.
Your phone calls Google using your carrier-assigned number ----> Google picks up and connects your call to whoever you actually dialed ("John") ----> John gets the call and sees your Voice number
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I can confirm that Google Voice has always used minutes, unless setup through an application like GrooveIP. I'm not sure where you guys are getting that it didn't use minutes before...
I didn't say I believe GV doesn't or hasn't used carrier mins, just that I have come across pieces of info that say one thing, and others that say another.
I understand GV uses carrier mins.
However, I am not clear whether it uses carrier mins when connected to a WiFi LAN.
Caebron said:
I didn't say I believe GV doesn't or hasn't used carrier mins, just that I have come across pieces of info that say one thing, and others that say another.
I understand GV uses carrier mins.
However, I am not clear whether it uses carrier mins when connected to a WiFi LAN.
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Again, it always does. Calls go through GSM/CDMA. Unless you're using a VoIP app like GrooveIP to make calls via Voice, you're using minutes.
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Product F(RED) said:
Again, it always does. Calls go through GSM/CDMA. Unless you're using a VoIP app like GrooveIP to make calls via Voice, you're using minutes.
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I thought I was loosing my mind when I first found this thread.. Glad I wasn't..
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I thought I was loosing my mind when I first found this thread.. Glad I wasn't..
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Either the first thread got moved, or this is the second thread made by the same person. I'm not aiming to insult the OP, but please do some research beforehand. Because what Google did was clarify what was already there. You're just confusing people.
Only one making sense here. They are legally barred from doing that. One has to use grooveip to make voip calls.
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Ok, so some say that GV now uses plan minutes to route call to overseas numbers where as before it used data, am I right?
I call a Canadian cell number everyday and my 1500 Allotted anything minutes still shows 0 used, so what exactly is the dispute?
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I have a note 1 GT-N7000 and almost never talk on my cell phone - I use my Gvoice VOIP for that with a real home phone. However, there will be times I'll need to talk on a cell phone.
Anyone have any idea if or how this might be workable on a nexus 7 lte with say, the T-mo $30 walmart plan (100 minutes a month, 5GB data)? I know that there are VOIP app options like GrooveIP but that has really sucked for me in the past. I doubt there will be a voice mic on the nexus 7 LTE but bluetooth would work. The only problem I see is there not being a native dialer?
Is this somewhat possible or is this a hopeless endeavor?
Anyone? Bueller, bueller?
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Anyone? Bueller, bueller?
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probably a lack of response as there are 2 or 3 current threads with responses in the past 24 hrs.
there is a microphone.
you can make VOIP calls via speaker method.
i installed a dialer from the playstore and could not make calls.
i installed GO SMS PRO from the playstore and SMS work perfectly.
i installed LINE & WHAT'S APP and they work fine.
my voice calling relies on skype:
OUTGOING - using on using skype Caller ID to identify my usual Australian mobile phone number
INCOMING - calls to my Australian mobile phone number are forwarded to my Australian skype number
sml12 said:
probably a lack of response as there are 2 or 3 current threads with responses in the past 24 hrs.
there is a microphone.
you can make VOIP calls via speaker method.
i installed a dialer from the playstore and could not make calls.
i installed GO SMS PRO from the playstore and SMS work perfectly.
i installed LINE & WHAT'S APP and they work fine.
my voice calling relies on skype:
OUTGOING - using on using skype Caller ID to identify my usual Australian mobile phone number
INCOMING - calls to my Australian mobile phone number are forwarded to my Australian skype number
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But we cannot do a normal call. Is hardware or a software problem?
Has anyone got a native dialer to work at all?
You're not going to be able to make cellular voice calls on the Nexus 7 LTE. It doesn't have the hardware.
I'll sell you my Samsung Galaxy 7.7 if you want a giant phone, however.
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But we cannot do a normal call. Is hardware or a software problem?
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Limited on purpose by Google at the software level
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burhanistan said:
You're not going to be able to make cellular voice calls on the Nexus 7 LTE. It doesn't have the hardware.
I'll sell you my Samsung Galaxy 7.7 if you want a giant phone, however.
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It is probably not a hardware limitation. Hopefully there will be ways to get around. I love my 7.7 but the Nexus is definitely better
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well today i've installed Go SMS on my N7 LTE n i was able to receive and even send SMS (real SMS through mobile carrier network, not the OTT service).
I've also tried to install Go contacts, which has a dialer to test the phone call ability but no luck, N7 didn't seem to catch the call although i could still hear bip bip through my phone (which call the N7' sim)
conclude: n7 can go texting just fine, but can't make a call. i don't know if developers can solve the latter.
Hello all,
I just got done with a one hour call using GrooveIP/GV/GV+ and struggled most of the call keeping it alive. My main problem was the recipient hearing me. I was pretty impressed to make a whole hour to be honest but it was a bit of a struggle. That being said, what are you using for your wifi calls these days? As most of you know, SIP linked with GV is coming to an end. Any thoughts? Just trying to have an open discussion about it pertaining to not only the Note but the general concept.
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Hello all,
I just got done with a one hour call using GrooveIP/GV/GV+ and struggled most of the call keeping it alive. My main problem was the recipient hearing me. I was pretty impressed to make a whole hour to be honest but it was a bit of a struggle. That being said, what are you using for your wifi calls these days? As most of you know, SIP linked with GV is coming to an end. Any thoughts? Just trying to have an open discussion about it pertaining to not only the Note but the general concept.
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It isn't sip that is going away, it's the xmpp protocol. I use my gv number with an obihai device and an now going to lose the ability to make/receive calls to my home phone for free. I'm sure there will be a device come soon that integrates directly into hangouts like the ata (the obihai) doors since that is how hangouts will now work. It's basically becoming Skype, and forcing people to join Google+. That part I am not happy with, but I will do what I gotta do to keep my free calling...
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what will you do keep your free calling?
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what will you do keep your free calling?
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Well, I will just be using my cell in the meantime. I don't really use my home phone but like to have it for the kids. There is already the gvmate out but requires a computer. I will wait for an ata that doesn't require that.
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