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I have TWRP. I used to use CWM, but ever since getting my G4, that was what was only avail at the time. I really have to complaints on it though...other than the navigation from forlder to folder was easier on CWM.
Cwm is rock solid. Twrp has bugs(backup/restore especially) and lacks dev support.
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Since OUDHS is based off CWM (IIRC), I'll have to say that. For the most part I've used CWM without problems anyway.
If you are using roms bssed off cyanogenmod... I say CWM but if your using TW roms go with TWRP
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Wow. Didn't expect these comments. Here's my 2 cents. I started with cwm on my DX, then got touch cwm, then started to do aosp on all my phones really started with the gnex. Once I got my gnex ran aosp ever since. Have 3 s3,s as well. Twrp all the way. Never had issues and last checked it was faster. But then again. I haven't used cwm in years
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I tried all three on touchwiz and twrp seems to work best for me.
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I prefer TWRP, used to use CWM and it never failed me, so I will not complain, it's a preference. My bigger question would be, how would I move a file in recovery to another recovery if I wanted to have a few recovery options? Example, have the original backup on OUDHS and then switch to TWRP, how do you move that file? Sorry, not trying to hijack, but this thread seems like a good place for this kind of a question.
Had alot issues with twrp restoring nands, I went to cwm on my s3.
Twrp it points to backups that get put into the "0 "partition instead of the way it used to let u restore from external sd...in my opinion the multiple user partitions that now get created in custom recovery since jellbean is a huge headache. .. ive lost plenty of backups.. and no thanks to flashing cm10, downgrading to move all info back to internal storage is a train wreck ... I hate the way it is all set up now ..
Twrp benefit is its touch based and u can name your backups.
Cwm seems better but not as pretty.
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I prefer TWRP, used to use CWM and it never failed me, so I will not complain, it's a preference. My bigger question would be, how would I move a file in recovery to another recovery if I wanted to have a few recovery options? Example, have the original backup on OUDHS and then switch to TWRP, how do you move that file? Sorry, not trying to hijack, but this thread seems like a good place for this kind of a question.
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Anything done from one recovery is not compatible with the other.. for instance as far as I know u can not restore a twrp backup with cwm and vise versa
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Anything done from one recovery is not compatible with the other.. for instance as far as I know u can not restore a twrp backup with cwm and vise versa
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Easiest way, save a backup with each recovery, that way, when the need arises to switch recoveries, you have it saved.
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Easiest way, save a backup with each recovery, that way, when the need arises to switch recoveries, you have it saved.
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That sounds like a lot more work (and space?) than it's worth!
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That sounds like a lot more work (and space?) than it's worth!
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True, but it is an option, and when I needed it (due to a different recovery) I was in a jam, I had to wait til I got to my home computer. I have now uploaded all my recoveries to DropBox. I have a 32gb sd card, so space is of no real problem for me at this time.
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True, but it is an option, and when I needed it (due to a different recovery) I was in a jam, I had to wait til I got to my home computer. I have now uploaded all my recoveries to DropBox. I have a 32gb sd card, so space is of no real problem for me at this time.
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Good point. I've been meaning to sync a bunch of stuff to my dropbox, but with upload speeds of less than 1Mbps, it's easy to procrastinate doing that.
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Good point. I've been meaning to sync a bunch of stuff to my dropbox, but with upload speeds of less than 1Mbps, it's easy to procrastinate doing that.
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Try and edit and change your apn settings to back to hspa+
My thread in general explains how and why ...you may gain a mb or 2 on upload there's no real fix for faster uploads, but u will get huge increase in megabytes on the download side.
I always use wifi for dropbox uploads.
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Try and edit and change your apn settings to back to hspa+
My thread in general explains how and why ...you may gain a mb or 2 on upload there's no real fix for faster uploads, but u will get huge increase in megabytes on the download side.
I always use wifi for dropbox uploads.
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Ohh no, it's nothing to do with my APN settings; it's the area which I live. I'm on AT&T service, and within about a 20 mile radius of my home I'm on EDGEand spotty 3G. My home internet is only 2Mbps down/ .25 up, so that's out too. It's just a case of bad location.
But thanks anyway!
Cwm but at the time twrp was only available. Twrp had crashed several times on my tablet while loading roms. But no issues so far on my phone.
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Ohh no, it's nothing to do with my APN settings; it's the area which I live. I'm on AT&T service, and within about a 20 mile radius of my home I'm on EDGEand spotty 3G. My home internet is only 2Mbps down/ .25 up, so that's out too. It's just a case of bad location.
But thanks anyway!
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So u are on att sim withba Tmo s4? Or att branded s4, just confused why u wasnt in the att forums
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So u are on att sim withba Tmo s4? Or att branded s4, just confused why u wasnt in the att forums
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TMO S4 on AT&T service... I jump around between the two, whatever peaks my interest I read/reply.
I prefer TWRP. I've never had a problem with it, very reliable. In my experience, it is very well supported and updated frequently. Not to say CWM is bad, it always worked for me as well.
TWRP for me!
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I've only ever used CWM before. What exactly is TWRP and how is it better? I did hear that the new version can handle encrypted phones which sounds important to me. I use AOKP with a CMPlus kernel. Thanks
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Faster backups and has compression
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agreed with above and you can theme it
by me, for me and I love you
Ive had issues with bad restores on TWRP as well as a few others I know where force closes would randomly start happening I don't see any difference other than themeing which is nice but reliability > customization.
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Ive had issues with bad restores on TWRP as well as a few others I know where force closes would randomly start happening I don't see any difference other than themeing which is nice but reliability > customization.
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Interesting. I'm interested in TWRP because it let's you read/flash from an encrypted /sdcard
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ive had no problems with it. i made the switch because i needed the compression.
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Interesting. I'm interested in TWRP because it let's you read/flash from an encrypted /sdcard
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Well don't let my experience keep you from it. Its usually reliable. But I did have some issues. Just to let you know it can mess up sometimes.
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Well don't let my experience keep you from it. Its usually reliable. But I did have some issues. Just to let you know it can mess up sometimes.
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and thats why i dont use cwm, because it tends to mess up/has bugs. ive never had a problem with twrp.
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and thats why i dont use cwm, because it tends to mess up/has bugs. ive never had a problem with twrp.
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Huh? I've never er had issues with cwm... can't say that for twrp...
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I've only ever used CWM before. What exactly is TWRP and how is it better? I did hear that the new version can handle encrypted phones which sounds important to me. I use AOKP with a CMPlus kernel. Thanks
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Better or worse depends on what you want I guess.
I use CWM 5.5.0.2 because it is extremely stable, and it is NON-touch. The touch-enabled CWM is NOT stable.
For me, having a touch-enabled recovery is silly -- I am in recovery to fix something or flash something, and I don't need a touch interface where I can accidentally touch the screen and it will do something I don't want. And I certainly do not want themes on my recovery. Hell, I don't even use themes on my ROMs...
From my point of view, the only benefits to using TWRP is the ability to decrypt data while in recovery (although I don't use encryption, so...) and compression. I can't comment on TWRP stability, as I have not used it long enough.
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Better or worse depends on what you want I guess.
I use CWM 5.5.0.2 because it is extremely stable, and it is NON-touch. The touch-enabled CWM is NOT stable.
For me, having a touch-enabled recovery is silly -- I am in recovery to fix something or flash something, and I don't need a touch interface where I can accidentally touch the screen and it will do something I don't want. And I certainly do not want themes on my recovery. Hell, I don't even use themes on my ROMs...
From my point of view, the only benefits to using TWRP is the ability to decrypt data while in recovery (although I don't use encryption, so...) and compression. I can't comment on TWRP stability, as I have not used it long enough.
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Very well said
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Thanks everyone. I'm going to play with TWRP later and if it appears stable I'll use it and encrypt. I'm a very privacy conscious person.
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I did some research and TWRP looked good. I installed TWRP yesterday. I've made a backup and its very quick. I did not restore yet. I too have not had enough seat time to comment on reliability. .
I'm still confused whether or not I have to or should remove CWM apps or leave them installed? I paid for CWM touch. No biggie I spend more for a coffee at Starbucks.
Is it OK to leave both installed and to go back and forth between the two recoveries if needed? Is anyone keeping both available?
I understand the backups are not interchangeable.
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I did some research and TWRP looked good. I installed TWRP yesterday. I've made a backup and its very quick. I did not restore yet. I too have not had enough seat time to comment on reliability. .
I'm still confused whether or not I have to or should remove CWM apps or leave them installed? I paid for CWM touch. No biggie I spend more for a coffee at Starbucks.
Is it OK to leave both installed and to go back and forth between the two recoveries if needed? Is anyone keeping both available?
I understand the backups are not interchangeable.
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Yes I would leave both back ups installed because you never know if twrp will mess up or clwmod but I highly doubt clwmod will. They are not interchangeable but clwmod can be flashed through rom manager in case your twrp fails and your not near your PC. I wouldn't use rom manager for nothing else but to flash clwmod its very unstable.
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I'm using twrp and I have been looking for a thread like this and I'm glad its came about because lately I have had some zip files that will flash but doesn't get applied I'm using twrp but have always used clwm.
This is what I want to know and I'm hoping for a very experienced xda member to help me make my decision. I have problems making decisions when I don't have enough info or I'm not satisfied with the info I have read. I have scoured google and I have read as much as I can on the differences but there's not much on which is better. My last question is if I choose to go back to clockwmod and if I do it won't be touch is it better to flash a zip or can I count on rom manager to flash it because I won't use it to do anything else only because im a firm believer in if you can't flash manually then you shouldn't be flashing. Thanks in advance
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I'm using twrp and I have been looking for a thread like this and I'm glad its came about because lately I have had some zip files that will flash but doesn't get applied I'm using twrp but have always used clwm.
This is what I want to know and I'm hoping for a very experienced xda member to help me make my decision. I have problems making decisions when I don't have enough info or I'm not satisfied with the info I have read. I have scoured google and I have read as much as I can on the differences but there's not much on which is better. My last question is if I choose to go back to clockwmod and if I do it won't be touch is it better to flash a zip or can I count on rom manager to flash it because I won't use it to do anything else only because im a firm believer in if you can't flash manually then you shouldn't be flashing. Only reason for asking if its safe to do through rm is because I can't download the zip through clockwmods web site it must be down. Thanks in advance
Specifically for our device, which is better and why? I've searched the entire forum for any relatively unbiased comparison with no luck.
Why is one better than the other, excluding personal preference?
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Specifically for our device, which is better and why? I've searched the entire forum for any relatively unbiased comparison with no luck.
Why is one better than the other, excluding personal preference?
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CWM has more options than TWRP.
twrp
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cwm is more reliable. almost bricked my phone with twrp I don't trust it as much.
Sorry to say but this is a topic that has been discussed to death. A simple search would get an overwhelming list of results, just sayin..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=whats better twrp or cwm?
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Sorry to say but this is a topic that has been discussed to death. A simple search would get an overwhelming list of results, just sayin..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=whats better twrp or cwm?
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I realize this, which is why I specifically requested the comparison for the tmo gs2. I didn't see any specific to our device.
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Cwm for me
TWRP all the way!:good:
I like TWRP because I have a touch screen, I want to use it. The buttons on TWRP are nice and big. CWM touch is too easy to push the wrong thing. And queuing up multiple zips too flash saves me a little time during my almost daily flashing
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Twrp appears to be faster at backing up and restoring. Just faster overall. However it looks like it destroyed my sd card.maybe it was just its time...
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TWRP for now...
Had CWM for my old optimus one and install it on my S2X first when i bought it... but recently change to TWRP and it's big improvement for the GUI... No more need to flash Darkside Wipe Cache and Darkside Full WIpe... For now it's working fine, but some people says they almost brick their phone with TWRP...don't know why... i'm still little nervous with it...
In my opinion twrp is the best. The openscript support, and also the flashing of multiple zips is great.
TWRP because it is easier to use, and you can flash multiple zips.
Cwm i gotta go the safe route cause im a noob.
I know there are a couple ways to root.. and)Ive seen a few probs with certian ones... looking for best way...
Not a noob... just looking for the most soild way... ive rooted with CFauto before.. but dont know whats the best to retain shells... had a couple probs there.
1. Should I flash older firmware n then motochopper then odin twrp. Then do I need a kernel with restriction removed?
And use root keeper?
2. Or Use cf- auto. Then odin twrp. No new kernel needed here?....
I just need the most solid way to retain shells...
Someone please help...
One last (Q)... whats the most solid recovery right now.....twrp or cwm?
And is it better to odin it or use goomanager or rom manager...
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I dont know about you but I love things that make my life easy.
I rooted using cf-auto....in less than 2 minutes, including downloading the files.
Than I downloaded goomanager and installed twrp in less than down minutes....
So all in total took me approximately 5 minute (at most) to root with my desire recovery.
Twrp and cwm are both stable..matter of preferences and i just like twrp better.
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I dont know about you but I love things that make my life easy.
I rooted using cf-auto....in less than 2 minutes, including downloading the files.
Than I downloaded goomanager and installed twrp in less than down minutes....
So all in total took me approximately 5 minute (at most) to root with my desire recovery.
Twrp and cwm are both stable..matter of preferences and i just like twrp better.
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Thanx.... I did that last time... but I had a hard time keeping root...(shells)
Ill try again... just got my replacement.
And I like twrp... but it kept freezing on me... thats why I thought if I odined it it would be better then goo....
Ill give it another shot....
Maybe they updated cf auto and twrp?
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I used zedomax's way. YouTube zedomax rooting s4
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Thanx.... I did that last time... but I had a hard time keeping root...(shells)
Ill try again... just got my replacement.
And I like twrp... but it kept freezing on me... thats why I thought if I odined it it would be better then goo....
Ill give it another shot....
Maybe they updated cf auto and twrp?
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Well take a look...I rooted my whole house (including myself) and root was kept on both ucing cf-root.
And I never knew recoveries froze before lol first time hearing this. You may just have been unlucky (all i can think of) but I know a lot who used the same things that I have regarding their s4, and all is still good for them and I
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Well take a look...I rooted my whole house (including myself) and root was kept on both ucing cf-root.
And I never knew recoveries froze before lol first time hearing this. You may just have been unlucky (all i can think of) but I know a lot who used the same things that I have regarding their s4, and all is still good for them and I
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K...it was an old phone....had to do a replacement. So ur prob. Right...
Thanx much
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I used zedomax's way. YouTube zedomax rooting s4
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Thnx ill have to have a look....
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I recently used rumrunner to gain s-off and root and I flashed CWM recovery. I have read different posts stating CWM is flaky on the One, and I've also read posts saying TWRP is flaky. Can anyone clear this up?
I've used TWRP on almost every device I've had and have never had an issue with it. I'm currently using TWRP with no issues.
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I used TWRP and had no problems. I'm a noob at all this and I couldn't have asked for it to have been easier.
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I recently used rumrunner to gain s-off and root and I flashed CWM recovery. I have read different posts stating CWM is flaky on the One, and I've also read posts saying TWRP is flaky. Can anyone clear this up?
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Cwm is flaky period not just on the one. Twrp has been the only real choice for years.
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I have had nothing but good luck with CWM myself.
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TWRP and Story time
I'm currently using TWRP with no issues, and never had any, starting way back on the OG Evo.
I do remember installing clockwork on the old school T-Mobile G1 (Dream) and I didn't have any issues. Koush spearheaded the recovery project for us, he will always have that title of being the 'first' with his clockworkmod's. (a tip of the hat to Koush)
Reminds me a little of this story I learned a while back. I heard it was true too...
The importance of a beginning in anything isn't always about that first product or creation in the project. The importance is whether the original design and goal is met at the end and/or in the end product. I.E. Adam.
He was the first to be created of humanity but the original purpose for his creation did not meet all of the requirements of his Creator. Instead of scrapping the original product and starting anew, there was a plan to restore and rectify on the original project, or as i like to call it, the original "storyline".
The similarity of this story to the OP takes a turn here. Where as Koush didn't fully rectify his original product (Clockworkmod) and make a better one, the Creator of humanity did indeed follow up on His promise to begin in the restoration of the original design of His story: the "Second Adam".
One was born from the dust of the earth (ie 'first' Adam; the other birthed from the Spirit of God in Heaven ('Second' Adam).
The first Adam was born perfect but ultimately failed in its original design and purpose. But alas, One had come, the Second Adam, who did not fall or fail, but came, conquered ,and was victorious in all that man was suppose to represent and so so much more...
I use cwm just because I like it better, I've had no issues so far with it. Once 4ext is available I'll be using that, best I've used to date.
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Truthfully I was CWM all day every phone no matter what.
I wouldn't even give TWRP a chance, once I did though, I never looked back, haven't been back on CWM since either.
I do have a gripe with a menu set up. Nothing major and enough for me to change. I highly suggest TWRP.
I like TWRP more. Better UI, navigation and features. That said, I use CWM. After experiencing bugs and instability with TWRP on the S4, I returned to the recovery that has never failed me, CWM.
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I use TWRP and have no complaints. Never did with CWM either. The winner for me is TWRP though, because I like being able to add multiple zip files to flash at once instead of flashing them one at-a-time with CWM, not a big deal but saves some time.
I would love to see 4ext make a comeback. Best recovery ever.
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I would love to see 4ext make a comeback. Best recovery ever.
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I just actually received an email from max about 4ext for the One. In short - the framework of his recovery needs an overhall to work with the larger resolutions, multi-cores, etc. He has a lot of work ahead of him so if he does try to revamp it for the One it will be some time. But I would switch from TWRP to 4ext in a heartbeat...handsdown the best.
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I just actually received an email from max about 4ext for the One. In short - the framework of his recovery needs an overhall to work with the larger resolutions, multi-cores, etc. He has a lot of work ahead of him so if he does try to revamp it for the One it will be some time. But I would switch from TWRP to 4ext in a heartbeat...handsdown the best.
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Same here. I love twrp, but pales so hard in comparison with 4ext
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Same here. I love twrp, but pales so hard in comparison with 4ext
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+1.
I actually forgot all about this recovery.
The best.
Anyone who uses CWM is a commie... Lol
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Anyone who uses CWM is a commie... Lol
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I use CWM
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I use CWM
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Almost anyone in that case lol
I used cwm with the original droid and it worked fine but when newer phones came out I noticed issues like on my dinc and bolt I had backups that was corrupted and I wasn't happy and moved to twrp and never had an issue since. I did move to 4ext with the bolt and that must say was the best over all. I miss 4ext when I got rid of the bolt but hope it comes to the one soon. It was so user friendly.
I've used CWM on my HP tablet, installed on a few other phones. Honestly, I've never given TWRP a chance. Is there anything I'm missing by not using it. I guess I'm just more used to the look and feel of CWM
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Ok, so I'm not new to Samsungs and I'm not new to modding, but the Note 2 is different from any experience I've ever had. I've had a SGS2, SGS Blaze 4G, two different SGS3's (i747 and i9300), and now the i317.
So, here's the issue. I got the phone off Swappa and it was pre-rooted with a custom recovery already. So it really wasn't much to upgrade to TWRP 2.7 and flash CM11. All's good for the next two weeks. Enter stage left: busted USB cable.
I come home from work yesterday to find my dog chewed my charger. I have more at work, doesn't help me at home (45 minute commute). Naturally, seeing as how I haven't charged in a couple days, it died.
Got to work this morning, plugged it into the charger aaaannnddd nada. No charge. I figure, "I remember reading about this in the DN3 thread!" So I borrow the battery out of my coworker's N2 and he charges mine while I use his to flash. And my hunt for bootloaders begins.
I've flashed:
GN2_N7105_(4.3_MK5_permissive_kernel).zip (as suggested in the DN3 thread): no dice.
cwm-i317-ucucne5-modem.zip: again, no dice.
A couple others, I did have about 50 tabs open on my browser, and I've lost track of what I actively have installed.
With each one of those, I checked my Build Info with Android System Info, and it reports my bootloader is I317UCAMA4
I've even tried flashing a couple kernels, including AGNi_pureSTOCK-v4.2.4_N7105_4.4.2_AROMA-signed.zip and cwm-i317-ucucne5-kernel.zip (which coincidentally makes android.process.media and com.android.dialer crash consistently), and still nothing. This is the problem with a device that has a bunch of variations: information overload.
So, I ask the community for help.
What I want: TWRP / CM11 to function optimally and to charge while powered off.
What I need: the proper kernel and bootloader, preferably in a recovery-flashable format, but I'm not too shy to Odin if necessary.
Thanks in advance for your help
re: charging problems
I have two I317's. One has the 4.1.2 bootloader and one has the 4.4.2 bootloader.
4.1.2 bootloader- if I install a 4.4.2 rom, it turns the phone on if I plug in the charging cable. It won't stay off while charging. The charging works normally with 4.3 roms. I also tried this with the MJ4 (4.3?) bootloader.
4.4.2 bootloader- if I install a 4.3 rom and try to charge it with the phone turned off, it hangs on the empty battery charging symbol and cannot be turned on without a battery pull. The charging works normally with a 4.4.2 rom.
For my two phones and 4.4.2, the rom has to match the bootloader for charging to work properly.
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I have two I317's. One has the 4.1.2 bootloader and one has the 4.4.2 bootloader.
4.1.2 bootloader- if I install a 4.4.2 rom, it turns the phone on if I plug in the charging cable. It won't stay off while charging. The charging works normally with 4.3 roms. I also tried this with the MJ4 (4.3?) bootloader.
4.4.2 bootloader- if I install a 4.3 rom and try to charge it with the phone turned off, it hangs on the empty battery charging symbol and cannot be turned on without a battery pull. The charging works normally with a 4.4.2 rom.
For my two phones and 4.4.2, the rom has to match the bootloader for charging to work properly.
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That makes sense. Would you mind linking me to a 4.4 bootloader? I've searched all up and down and no matter what I flash, my bootloader stays at UCAMA4.
jparnell8839 said:
That makes sense. Would you mind linking me to a 4.4 bootloader? I've searched all up and down and no matter what I flash, my bootloader stays at UCAMA4.
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Here ya go
http://d-h.st/qDY
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jparnell8839 said:
That makes sense. Would you mind linking me to a 4.4 bootloader? I've searched all up and down and no matter what I flash, my bootloader stays at UCAMA4.
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Just be warned...I don't think that you can revert back if you flash the 4.4.2 bootloader. You are stuck with it until something newer comes out.
Ive been on the newest and ive never had a reason to go back
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terpin32 said:
Here ya go
http://d-h.st/qDY
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jsdad said:
Just be warned...I don't think that you can revert back if you flash the 4.4.2 bootloader. You are stuck with it until something newer comes out.
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terpin32 said:
Ive been on the newest and ive never had a reason to go back
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I'm pretty much an avid CM'er. That's one requirement I make to buying a phone, unless I buy at launch (which doesn't happen very often). Does it have official CM support. But I do appreciate the heads up.
I switch from cm nighlies and a de-odexed tw rom but both work without any problems cm just doesn't have the features I like with tw that I miss from time to time
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terpin32 said:
I switch from cm nighlies and a de-odexed tw rom but both work without any problems cm just doesn't have the features I like with tw that I miss from time to time
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I get that. I played with stock deodexed for a while just to play with the spen features, but I can't stand the default apps on TW (dialer, messages, exchange email, etc)
jparnell8839 said:
I get that. I played with stock deodexed for a while just to play with the spen features, but I can't stand the default apps on TW (dialer, messages, exchange email, etc)
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Try this rom it has no bloat its got like 10 apps that boot its like having cm like smoothness
This is the post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2803363
This is the rom im running
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23501681358557170
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terpin32 said:
Try this rom it has no bloat its got like 10 apps that boot its like having cm like smoothness
This is the post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2803363
This is the rom im running
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23501681358557170
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I'll give it a shot. I tried the DN3v5, but was getting several FC's and some issues with LTE. No matter what I set my APN to, it would always revert to 3G preference.
jparnell8839 said:
I'll give it a shot. I tried the DN3v5, but was getting several FC's and some issues with LTE. No matter what I set my APN to, it would always revert to 3G preference.
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This has the stock att apn built in and my lte speeds is like being on stock everything no fcs either love this rom
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jparnell8839 said:
I'll give it a shot. I tried the DN3v5, but was getting several FC's and some issues with LTE. No matter what I set my APN to, it would always revert to 3G preference.
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And in that thread there is a s5 ui you can flash but it kinda slows the one down but its kinda cool
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terpin32 said:
This has the stock att apn built in and my lte speeds is like being on stock everything no fcs either love this rom
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Sounds appealing. I'll come back to it tomorrow, about to start homework now. College life stinks.
On this NE5, do I need the pit? And which portion in Odin do I push it to? I'm searching for that now, I know I saw it in a thread somewhere...
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Sounds appealing. I'll come back to it tomorrow, about to start homework now. College life stinks.
On this NE5, do I need the pit? And which portion in Odin do I push it to? I'm searching for that now, I know I saw it in a thread somewhere...
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Just do a backup and just flash like normal
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terpin32 said:
Just do a backup and just flash like normal
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Ah, *duh* goes in the Bootloader slot......
jparnell8839 said:
Ah, *duh* goes in the Bootloader slot......
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My bad read that wrong but idk about the pit I just did the ota so I had the ne5 bootloader updated
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jparnell8839 said:
Sounds appealing. I'll come back to it tomorrow, about to start homework now. College life stinks.
On this NE5, do I need the pit? And which portion in Odin do I push it to? I'm searching for that now, I know I saw it in a thread somewhere...
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But you would flash the bootloader in the pda or the ap slot in odin
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terpin32 said:
But you would flash the bootloader in the pda or the ap slot in odin
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Well, oops. I flashed in the Bootloader slot. It seems to have took, Android System Info is reporting NE5 under Build Info. I wonder if I should re-flash under pda....
By the way, thanks for all your help, peoples. I plan on viewing every single thread over the course of the next few weeks (or months, depends on how my classes get) and writing a SGN2 Bible (kind of like what we did over at the Galaxy S Blaze forums). I cant say I'll read them all, but hopefully, I can sift through all the hundreds of pages of threads in a timely manner.
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Well, oops. I flashed in the Bootloader slot. It seems to have took, Android System Info is reporting NE5 under Build Info. I wonder if I should re-flash under pda....
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Im not sure y they put a bootloader slot ive never used anything but pda or ap but ive never tried flashing a bootloader
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terpin32 said:
Im not sure y they put a bootloader slot
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You can flash everything in PDA, including boot loaders. When you flash a single tar with the full firmware in PDA, it contains everything, even kernel and modem and etc.
The reason for all the slots is that some firmware distributions come with separate tar files for each part, and you can still flash them all together.