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Cwm vs twrp?

Specifically for our device, which is better and why? I've searched the entire forum for any relatively unbiased comparison with no luck.
Why is one better than the other, excluding personal preference?
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inpherknow said:
Specifically for our device, which is better and why? I've searched the entire forum for any relatively unbiased comparison with no luck.
Why is one better than the other, excluding personal preference?
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CWM has more options than TWRP.

twrp
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cwm is more reliable. almost bricked my phone with twrp I don't trust it as much.

Sorry to say but this is a topic that has been discussed to death. A simple search would get an overwhelming list of results, just sayin..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=whats better twrp or cwm?
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VoiD_Dweller said:
Sorry to say but this is a topic that has been discussed to death. A simple search would get an overwhelming list of results, just sayin..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=whats better twrp or cwm?
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I realize this, which is why I specifically requested the comparison for the tmo gs2. I didn't see any specific to our device.
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Cwm for me

TWRP all the way!:good:

I like TWRP because I have a touch screen, I want to use it. The buttons on TWRP are nice and big. CWM touch is too easy to push the wrong thing. And queuing up multiple zips too flash saves me a little time during my almost daily flashing
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Twrp appears to be faster at backing up and restoring. Just faster overall. However it looks like it destroyed my sd card.maybe it was just its time...
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TWRP for now...
Had CWM for my old optimus one and install it on my S2X first when i bought it... but recently change to TWRP and it's big improvement for the GUI... No more need to flash Darkside Wipe Cache and Darkside Full WIpe... For now it's working fine, but some people says they almost brick their phone with TWRP...don't know why... i'm still little nervous with it...

In my opinion twrp is the best. The openscript support, and also the flashing of multiple zips is great.

TWRP because it is easier to use, and you can flash multiple zips.

Cwm i gotta go the safe route cause im a noob.

Noob questions here ...

hey guys so my sister bought the Samsung Galaxy S3 T999 (T-Mobile one) and she is using it in canada with the wind network .. the phone is nice but that blaotware is an noying (the wifi hotspot doesnt work ...) the wifi calling and ect ... now i do have some android experiance cause i own the G Nexus and its so simple to flash roms on here now what worries me is the samsung flash coutn and ect .. if soemone doesnt mind can you tell me which rom would be best, stock-like maybe performance increased? better batt life? clean, stock, slim, no bloat? ive downloaded the tool kit, id take the time to read but i want to set it up for her tmr and i have other stuff i have to do so if someone wouldnt mind taking the time pointing me in the right direction or writing me a mini-guide thanks!

First of all before you start going crazy, you can disable almost all of the bloat by going to Application manager. Unless your sister hates Touchwiz I'd leave it as stock. On the other hand if you're certain you want to flash a rom, there is an app to reset the flash counter called triangle away. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
Development has all of the links in stickies.

She can use a launcher if she doesn't like Touchwiz.
Personally, I would not do this for her - not to be mean, but because if she can't do it and doesn't understand the risks and responsibilities of having a rooted phone, she could get into more trouble than just having bloatware.
If she wants to root, show her a guide. Answer questions. Help her find resources. But the worst thing you can do is to do everything for her. That's great if you just want to make a quick $25 from a random idiot friend/coworker - but unless you hate your sister, I'd focus on teaching her, not doing everything for her.
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well actually she doesnt know anything about phones, but i want to remove it for her because shes used my galaxy nexus before, she like touchwiz i just want to remove all the bloatware D: coz i.e. mobile hotspot doesnt work i thought maybe some developers would have fixed a kernel for better battery life (something to do with data my freind has told me) other then turning on and off she wont be using root other then me flashing a custom rom on her phone

ed116 said:
well actually she doesnt know anything about phones, but i want to remove it for her because shes used my galaxy nexus before, she like touchwiz i just want to remove all the bloatware D: coz i.e. mobile hotspot doesnt work i thought maybe some developers would have fixed a kernel for better battery life (something to do with data my freind has told me) other then turning on and off she wont be using root other then me flashing a custom rom on her phone
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If you haven't found it yet, go to Application manager swipe over to the right until you get to all, and click on and then disable anything that looks like bloat.

You can also use titanium backup or rom toolbox to freeze bloat apps. But I wouldn't root and flash rom for her because she can break her phone if she would start going in places she shouldn't. Explain her the dangers of rooting and flashing, show her what she can do and what not with rooted phone. Explain which apps should be granted su permissions and which not. Teach her basics of advanced Android phone use and if she decides to go with it then flash rom and maybe we will have new member to xda family
As to the rom, if she decides to go with it, I recommend FrostyJB. But don't rush with flashing it, my own sister almost broke my rooted sgs vibrant when she was using it because she had no idea what she was doing. So teach her first then flash for her
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You guys are a bit exaggerating, I installed a rom on my sisters g2x and all she has to do is not mess with super user app. Someone who doesn't know about rooting wouldn't install a rooting app meaning won't have to mess with apps that gives you permissions. It's a big responsibility but not so much if someone is planning to stay on one rom forever. Heck I even showed her how to get into recovery and clear cache, fix permissions keep in mind she's far from being android literate. So as long as he explains the Basics she will be fine.
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Also first step before you root backup NV these phones tend to lose their emei rather randomly. Before you flash anything backup the stock rom in case something goes wrong you can always go back to that one
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daxecutioner24 said:
You guys are a bit exaggerating, I installed a rom on my sisters g2x and all she has to do is not mess with super user app. Someone who doesn't know about rooting wouldn't install a rooting app meaning won't have to mess with apps that gives you permissions. It's a big responsibility but not so much if someone is planning to stay on one rom forever. Heck I even showed her how to get into recovery and clear cache, fix permissions keep in mind she's far from being android literate. So as long as he explains the Basics she will be fine.
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Also first step before you root backup NV these phones tend to lose their emei rather randomly. Before you flash anything backup the stock rom in case something goes wrong you can always go back to that one
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Yeah that's what I said. Just basics, so when something like permission pop-up will show to her, she will know what's that about and what to do.
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emei
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It's IMEI, or International Mobile Equipment Identity. I'm only correcting you because I've seen you make this mistake quite a few times. I know, I'm being incredibly anal. Sorry.

HajmeR said:
Yeah that's what I said. Just basics, so when something like permission pop-up will show to her, she will know what's that about and what to do.
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Yeah pretty much and it shouldn't come up often people tend to forget you can always put to remember your choice by checking it.
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Aerowinder said:
It's IMEI, or International Mobile Equipment Identity. I'm only correcting you because I've seen you make this mistake quite a few times. I know, I'm being incredibly anal. Sorry.
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It's cool I figured I might be spelling it wrong but too lazy to try and go check in my phone lol
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So which ROM Would you guys best suggest - something that is stock like - yet slim no added crapware, that is snappy and a bit customizable? the customization is not as important (maybe a lil)

Simple port request

Ok guys, before I get flamed for not doing it myself I gotta say that my build system is down ATM. This is a simple thing to do, I just don't have the resources to do it. If anyone would be willing to port this for Toro, that would be AWESOME. It's a new recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2201860
Like I said, I would do it if my computer wasn't down right now. Thanks for anyone willing to do this.
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Why isn't anybody interested? :/
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yepitsme19 said:
Why isn't anybody interested? :/
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Well where to start?
Its just another recovery since the unique features of it will not be open sourced by the dev.
What features of it intrigue you the most? I mean I spend all of ten minutes a week in recovery. I have no need for anything else in recovery other than what I currently have.
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Pirateghost said:
Well where to start?
Its just another recovery since the unique features of it will not be open sourced by the dev.
What features of it intrigue you the most? I mean I spend all of ten minutes a week in recovery. I have no need for anything else in recovery other than what I currently have.
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For me, CWM is ok, but it lacks the spice of TWRP. On the other hand, TWRP is like a cheap ass Android phone. It works, but completely ruins the experience. This is like CWM on steroids. If you read the OP it says 99% of it is open, just not the touch code like CWM. I feel that this is what I have personally been missing in a recovery.
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yepitsme19 said:
For me, CWM is ok, but it lacks the spice of TWRP. On the other hand, TWRP is like a cheap ass Android phone. It works, but completely ruins the experience. This is like CWM on steroids. If you read the OP it says 99% of it is open, just not the touch code like CWM. I feel that this is what I have personally been missing in a recovery.
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I don't quite understand what the "spice of TWRP" and the "experience" of Android in a recovery are. To me, the two recoveries do the same thing; the only reason I use TWRP is that it is touch, and I have had bad experiences with broken buttons from overuse. So I need to agree with pirateghost; I don't see the appeal.

Pirateghost said:
Well where to start?
Its just another recovery since the unique features of it will not be open sourced by the dev.
What features of it intrigue you the most? I mean I spend all of ten minutes a week in recovery. I have no need for anything else in recovery other than what I currently have.
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All features are open sourced except touch recovery.
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Grarak said:
All features are open sourced except touch recovery.
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Missing Features from github source:
- all gui options, include touch code
- name the backup folder with current ROM name
- custom zip install menu (Free Browse Mode + custom startup folder)
- Create Update.zip from current ROM or from pre-existing backups
- misc nandroid settings menu (but /preload is included by default and I added option to toggle compression under backup format menu)
Please, do not ask for touch source, I will never share it, release it public or make it commercial...
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Pirateghost said:
Missing Features from github source:
- all gui options, include touch code
- name the backup folder with current ROM name
- custom zip install menu (Free Browse Mode + custom startup folder)
- Create Update.zip from current ROM or from pre-existing backups
- misc nandroid settings menu (but /preload is included by default and I added option to toggle compression under backup format menu)
Please, do not ask for touch source, I will never share it, release it public or make it commercial...
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I see. Didn't read that.

bananagranola said:
I don't quite understand what the "spice of TWRP" and the "experience" of Android in a recovery are. To me, the two recoveries do the same thing; the only reason I use TWRP is that it is touch, and I have had bad experiences with broken buttons from overuse. So I need to agree with pirateghost; I don't see the appeal.
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You do know there's a CWM with touch right ? ;]

madd0g said:
You do know there's a CWM with touch right ? ;]
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Yeah I do, but I never got around to trying it since TWRP works anyway. Like I said, my recovery doesn't really matter to me as long as it works. Does it have any special advantages?

Got my build system up and running finally. Working on syncing some source now then I'll get this going probably tomorrow or so. If anyone is interested just let me know and I'll get it posted in the dev section
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bananagranola said:
Yeah I do, but I never got around to trying it since TWRP works anyway. Like I said, my recovery doesn't really matter to me as long as it works. Does it have any special advantages?
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Compared to non touch ? Not really, I've started using it because I wanted to save the button wear, but since 4.1.2 I'm not seeing the recovery much anyway (using stock Google image). I tried TWRP, but went back quickly, since I was more familiar with CWM and didn't want to waste time relearning/trying something that I wasn't aware of how it all works when needed.
As for regarding recovery "features" some would probably want working radio in it and use it as a phone ...

Any word on this?
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MisterSprinkles said:
Any word on this?
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Any word on what? At this time the only useful aspect of this is the standard recovery features we already have with 2 other recoveries. Since he won't open source the only bits that make it unique it seems like a waste of time.
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Pirateghost said:
Any word on what? At this time the only useful aspect of this is the standard recovery features we already have with 2 other recoveries. Since he won't open source the only bits that make it unique it seems like a waste of time.
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I think he means from OP:
yepitsme19 said:
Got my build system up and running finally. Working on syncing some source now then I'll get this going probably tomorrow or so. If anyone is interested just let me know and I'll get it posted in the dev section
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Looks like Phil just posted it in the Toro section! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2281571

TWRP to me is pretty horrible. CWM is simple and it works. Ive used it from the start and never had any problems. also the latest version of CWM supports Toro (obviously) and is also touch. Not sure why the OP wants this one to be honest.

Who has used cwn snd twrp recoveries and which one prefer

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I have TWRP. I used to use CWM, but ever since getting my G4, that was what was only avail at the time. I really have to complaints on it though...other than the navigation from forlder to folder was easier on CWM.

Cwm is rock solid. Twrp has bugs(backup/restore especially) and lacks dev support.
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Since OUDHS is based off CWM (IIRC), I'll have to say that. For the most part I've used CWM without problems anyway.

If you are using roms bssed off cyanogenmod... I say CWM but if your using TW roms go with TWRP
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Wow. Didn't expect these comments. Here's my 2 cents. I started with cwm on my DX, then got touch cwm, then started to do aosp on all my phones really started with the gnex. Once I got my gnex ran aosp ever since. Have 3 s3,s as well. Twrp all the way. Never had issues and last checked it was faster. But then again. I haven't used cwm in years
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I tried all three on touchwiz and twrp seems to work best for me.
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I prefer TWRP, used to use CWM and it never failed me, so I will not complain, it's a preference. My bigger question would be, how would I move a file in recovery to another recovery if I wanted to have a few recovery options? Example, have the original backup on OUDHS and then switch to TWRP, how do you move that file? Sorry, not trying to hijack, but this thread seems like a good place for this kind of a question.

Had alot issues with twrp restoring nands, I went to cwm on my s3.
Twrp it points to backups that get put into the "0 "partition instead of the way it used to let u restore from external sd...in my opinion the multiple user partitions that now get created in custom recovery since jellbean is a huge headache. .. ive lost plenty of backups.. and no thanks to flashing cm10, downgrading to move all info back to internal storage is a train wreck ... I hate the way it is all set up now ..
Twrp benefit is its touch based and u can name your backups.
Cwm seems better but not as pretty.
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gear79 said:
I prefer TWRP, used to use CWM and it never failed me, so I will not complain, it's a preference. My bigger question would be, how would I move a file in recovery to another recovery if I wanted to have a few recovery options? Example, have the original backup on OUDHS and then switch to TWRP, how do you move that file? Sorry, not trying to hijack, but this thread seems like a good place for this kind of a question.
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Anything done from one recovery is not compatible with the other.. for instance as far as I know u can not restore a twrp backup with cwm and vise versa
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Anything done from one recovery is not compatible with the other.. for instance as far as I know u can not restore a twrp backup with cwm and vise versa
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Easiest way, save a backup with each recovery, that way, when the need arises to switch recoveries, you have it saved.

gear79 said:
Easiest way, save a backup with each recovery, that way, when the need arises to switch recoveries, you have it saved.
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That sounds like a lot more work (and space?) than it's worth!

lordcheeto03 said:
That sounds like a lot more work (and space?) than it's worth!
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True, but it is an option, and when I needed it (due to a different recovery) I was in a jam, I had to wait til I got to my home computer. I have now uploaded all my recoveries to DropBox. I have a 32gb sd card, so space is of no real problem for me at this time.

gear79 said:
True, but it is an option, and when I needed it (due to a different recovery) I was in a jam, I had to wait til I got to my home computer. I have now uploaded all my recoveries to DropBox. I have a 32gb sd card, so space is of no real problem for me at this time.
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Good point. I've been meaning to sync a bunch of stuff to my dropbox, but with upload speeds of less than 1Mbps, it's easy to procrastinate doing that.

lordcheeto03 said:
Good point. I've been meaning to sync a bunch of stuff to my dropbox, but with upload speeds of less than 1Mbps, it's easy to procrastinate doing that.
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Try and edit and change your apn settings to back to hspa+
My thread in general explains how and why ...you may gain a mb or 2 on upload there's no real fix for faster uploads, but u will get huge increase in megabytes on the download side.
I always use wifi for dropbox uploads.
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lojak29 said:
Try and edit and change your apn settings to back to hspa+
My thread in general explains how and why ...you may gain a mb or 2 on upload there's no real fix for faster uploads, but u will get huge increase in megabytes on the download side.
I always use wifi for dropbox uploads.
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Ohh no, it's nothing to do with my APN settings; it's the area which I live. I'm on AT&T service, and within about a 20 mile radius of my home I'm on EDGEand spotty 3G. My home internet is only 2Mbps down/ .25 up, so that's out too. It's just a case of bad location.
But thanks anyway!

Cwm but at the time twrp was only available. Twrp had crashed several times on my tablet while loading roms. But no issues so far on my phone.
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lordcheeto03 said:
Ohh no, it's nothing to do with my APN settings; it's the area which I live. I'm on AT&T service, and within about a 20 mile radius of my home I'm on EDGEand spotty 3G. My home internet is only 2Mbps down/ .25 up, so that's out too. It's just a case of bad location.
But thanks anyway!
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So u are on att sim withba Tmo s4? Or att branded s4, just confused why u wasnt in the att forums
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So u are on att sim withba Tmo s4? Or att branded s4, just confused why u wasnt in the att forums
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TMO S4 on AT&T service... I jump around between the two, whatever peaks my interest I read/reply.

I prefer TWRP. I've never had a problem with it, very reliable. In my experience, it is very well supported and updated frequently. Not to say CWM is bad, it always worked for me as well.

TWRP for me!

[Q] Which recovery is the best?

I recently used rumrunner to gain s-off and root and I flashed CWM recovery. I have read different posts stating CWM is flaky on the One, and I've also read posts saying TWRP is flaky. Can anyone clear this up?

I've used TWRP on almost every device I've had and have never had an issue with it. I'm currently using TWRP with no issues.
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I used TWRP and had no problems. I'm a noob at all this and I couldn't have asked for it to have been easier.
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irie27 said:
I recently used rumrunner to gain s-off and root and I flashed CWM recovery. I have read different posts stating CWM is flaky on the One, and I've also read posts saying TWRP is flaky. Can anyone clear this up?
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Cwm is flaky period not just on the one. Twrp has been the only real choice for years.
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I have had nothing but good luck with CWM myself.
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TWRP and Story time
I'm currently using TWRP with no issues, and never had any, starting way back on the OG Evo.
I do remember installing clockwork on the old school T-Mobile G1 (Dream) and I didn't have any issues. Koush spearheaded the recovery project for us, he will always have that title of being the 'first' with his clockworkmod's. (a tip of the hat to Koush)
Reminds me a little of this story I learned a while back. I heard it was true too...
The importance of a beginning in anything isn't always about that first product or creation in the project. The importance is whether the original design and goal is met at the end and/or in the end product. I.E. Adam.
He was the first to be created of humanity but the original purpose for his creation did not meet all of the requirements of his Creator. Instead of scrapping the original product and starting anew, there was a plan to restore and rectify on the original project, or as i like to call it, the original "storyline".
The similarity of this story to the OP takes a turn here. Where as Koush didn't fully rectify his original product (Clockworkmod) and make a better one, the Creator of humanity did indeed follow up on His promise to begin in the restoration of the original design of His story: the "Second Adam".
One was born from the dust of the earth (ie 'first' Adam; the other birthed from the Spirit of God in Heaven ('Second' Adam).
The first Adam was born perfect but ultimately failed in its original design and purpose. But alas, One had come, the Second Adam, who did not fall or fail, but came, conquered ,and was victorious in all that man was suppose to represent and so so much more...

I use cwm just because I like it better, I've had no issues so far with it. Once 4ext is available I'll be using that, best I've used to date.
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Truthfully I was CWM all day every phone no matter what.
I wouldn't even give TWRP a chance, once I did though, I never looked back, haven't been back on CWM since either.
I do have a gripe with a menu set up. Nothing major and enough for me to change. I highly suggest TWRP.

I like TWRP more. Better UI, navigation and features. That said, I use CWM. After experiencing bugs and instability with TWRP on the S4, I returned to the recovery that has never failed me, CWM.
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I use TWRP and have no complaints. Never did with CWM either. The winner for me is TWRP though, because I like being able to add multiple zip files to flash at once instead of flashing them one at-a-time with CWM, not a big deal but saves some time.

I would love to see 4ext make a comeback. Best recovery ever.
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I would love to see 4ext make a comeback. Best recovery ever.
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I just actually received an email from max about 4ext for the One. In short - the framework of his recovery needs an overhall to work with the larger resolutions, multi-cores, etc. He has a lot of work ahead of him so if he does try to revamp it for the One it will be some time. But I would switch from TWRP to 4ext in a heartbeat...handsdown the best.

brymaster5000 said:
I just actually received an email from max about 4ext for the One. In short - the framework of his recovery needs an overhall to work with the larger resolutions, multi-cores, etc. He has a lot of work ahead of him so if he does try to revamp it for the One it will be some time. But I would switch from TWRP to 4ext in a heartbeat...handsdown the best.
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Same here. I love twrp, but pales so hard in comparison with 4ext
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Same here. I love twrp, but pales so hard in comparison with 4ext
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+1.
I actually forgot all about this recovery.
The best.

Anyone who uses CWM is a commie... Lol

cstrife999 said:
Anyone who uses CWM is a commie... Lol
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I use CWM

Flyhalf205 said:
I use CWM
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Almost anyone in that case lol

I used cwm with the original droid and it worked fine but when newer phones came out I noticed issues like on my dinc and bolt I had backups that was corrupted and I wasn't happy and moved to twrp and never had an issue since. I did move to 4ext with the bolt and that must say was the best over all. I miss 4ext when I got rid of the bolt but hope it comes to the one soon. It was so user friendly.

I've used CWM on my HP tablet, installed on a few other phones. Honestly, I've never given TWRP a chance. Is there anything I'm missing by not using it. I guess I'm just more used to the look and feel of CWM
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