Which one to get, things I'm mostly concerned is battery life,sound quality and android updates - I want it to be supported for next 2 years.
can't compare them. Totally different classes. Compare the oppo with S4,One,Z, not G.
G is S3,One X class. No android device,except nexus , has been supported for 2 years.Only samsung made it for about 18 months,don't know about others.
And i don't know why you are asking us. It's your money, you decide. On paper, Oppo rules, but i don't know the brand so well to recommend it. I read it has great quality build, all impressions and reviews were positive,but...
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can't compare them. Totally different classes. Compare the oppo with S4,One,Z, not G.
G is S3,One X class. No android device,except nexus , has been supported for 2 years.Only samsung made it for about 18 months,don't know about others.
And i don't know why you are asking us. It's your money, you decide. On paper, Oppo rules, but i don't know the brand so well to recommend it. I read it has great quality build, all impressions and reviews were positive,but...
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I don't agree 100% with you.
Oppo is on the range of S4 and One only regarding Full HD display, regarding CPU S4/ One are better, and specially ONE as a smartphone is much better (my opinion).
LGOG has a big advantage IMHO, it has 4G and Oppo don't.
But at the end this is a personnel decision for sure!
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can't compare them. Totally different classes. Compare the oppo with S4,One,Z, not G.
G is S3,One X class. No android device,except nexus , has been supported for 2 years.Only samsung made it for about 18 months,don't know about others.
And i don't know why you are asking us. It's your money, you decide. On paper, Oppo rules, but i don't know the brand so well to recommend it. I read it has great quality build, all impressions and reviews were positive,but...
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You know that the s4pro in the g is nearly the same as the s600? I dont agree with you. The s3 has amoled and 1 gig and no 4g and exynos soc. The s4 has the s600 but also amoled and plastic all over the place. The z is on par with the g but feels like crap.
The oppo is bigger, has a hd screen resolution but a small battery with no 4g connectivity. I still prefer the g!
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I9305 or s3 lte has 2gb ram and lte.so yea,i can compare.
I said full hd devices should be in different classes.it's like comparing the e klasse with s klasse from mercedes.they are great machines,top notch,but with things making them so different.
This week i'll get my hands on the find5.a coleague ordered it.so i will be able to make a proper review.
Still,i wouldn't change my g now
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Oppo and LGOG seem to have the same cpu + gpu, makes them the same, a bulkier screen and an unnecessarily high resolution IMHO to suck up the batt as well as sluggier performance in games due to being full HD, compare and see for yourself !! S4 i9505, G Pro and ONE have s600.. a different lvl
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You know that the s4pro in the g is nearly the same as the s600?
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Nearly, but not nearly as close as you think. There's a lot of small changes in the Krait 300 (CPU in the S600) that give it a 10-15% performance advantage over the Krait 200 (CPU in the S4 Pro). And it can run at 1.9 GHz vs 1.5 GHz.
The Adreno 320 GPU is also tweaked slightly giving it another 10-15% advantage.
And power draw overall remains the same.
IOW, the S600 is an upgrade over the S4 Pro. If you already have a phone with an S4 Pro, it's probably not worth it to upgrade to an S600. But, if you are choosing between two new phones, one with the S4 Pro and one with the S600, the latter is a better deal.
Optimus G will be with me tommorow but I still dont know.. I can sell LGOG as a brand new add some more money and get Oppo.. which one has better battery life and screen? I know Oppo one is bigger but what about quality? just because it's full hd dont mean it's better quality..
Bigger screen == bigger battery drain
More pixels to push == bigger battery drain
And there's significantly more of each compared to the Optimus G.
The battery is larger, though (2500 mAh vs 2100-ish mAh). I wouldn't expect battery life to be much better on the Oppo, maybe the same as the OG.
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Dear fellow forum users,
I'm currently evaluating a new Android phone. I'm pondering between the Optimus G Pro and waiting for the G2.
What are your experiences and your level of satisfaction with this phone running LG stock Android? And how active do you think is the community regarding custom ROMs? (I prefer as close to Nexus-like Android as possible).
Thanks for your feedback.
Go For G Pro
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Dear fellow forum users,
I'm currently evaluating a new Android phone. I'm pondering between the Optimus G Pro and waiting for the G2.
What are your experiences and your level of satisfaction with this phone running LG stock Android? And how active do you think is the community regarding custom ROMs? (I prefer as close to Nexus-like Android as possible).
Thanks for your feedback.
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HI Buddy,
G2 has a better camera & slightly better viewing angle. The jelly bean 4.2.2 which is ported on G2 will soon be out in market as soon as G2 start retailing. then you can port that rom to GPRO. Our wonderful Devs are already waitng for that.
Now everything is almost same (Snapdragon 800 & 600 doesnt differ in real life scenario, user experience is almost same).
GPRO is cheaper & has a big screen, Now if you dont want to pay extra only for a OIS camera then go checkout with GPRO.
Have a nice day !!!!
Luckyboy
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HI Buddy,
G2 has a better camera & slightly better viewing angle. The jelly bean 4.2.2 which is ported on G2 will soon be out in market as soon as G2 start retailing. then you can port that rom to GPRO. Our wonderful Devs are already waitng for that.
Now everything is almost same (Snapdragon 800 & 600 doesnt differ in real life scenario, user experience is almost same).
GPRO is cheaper & has a big screen, Now if you dont want to pay extra only for a OIS camera then go checkout with GPRO.
Have a nice day !!!!
Luckyboy
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Is OIS really that effective in normal camera shoots?
Does it make significant difference?
I'm thinkimg, should I or shouldI not go for G2 from my G Pro just for the OIS in G2?
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Is OIS really that effective in normal camera shoots?
Does it make significant difference?
I'm thinkimg, should I or shouldI not go for G2 from my G Pro just for the OIS in G2?
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Hi Kelvin,
OIS plays a significant role when you are taking a picture of moving object & reduces the blurr. It also depends of the capabilities of the Photographer.
Now it depends how often you use this feature(or how much it matters to you). for example: if you shoot pictures while you drive or during a footbal match. it will be a handy feature. Now it depends what you are going to do with your pics at the end of the day just sharing on social media,
From my personal point of view this feature doesnt matter a lot on a phone. because whenever i am on a vacation or travel i usualy prefer to take my Digital Camera with me.
Just note down your requirement & compare. This will be helpful to decide.
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Hi Kelvin,
OIS plays a significant role when you are taking a picture of moving object & reduces the blurr. It also depends of the capabilities of the Photographer.
Now it depends how often you use this feature(or how much it matters to you). for example: if you shoot pictures while you drive or during a footbal match. it will be a handy feature. Now it depends what you are going to do with your pics at the end of the day just sharing on social media,
From my personal point of view this feature doesnt matter a lot on a phone. because whenever i am on a vacation or travel i usualy prefer to take my Digital Camera with me.
Just note down your requirement & compare. This will be helpful to decide.
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Got it!
That's good advice! :good:
Thanks, buddy!
Confused!!
For the life of me, I could not decide between the G2 and the G Pro. I initially wanted the G Pro for the big screen, but then because the specs of the G2 are more 'future proof', I went with that.
In the back of my mind, I still want the G Pro, and still have time to swap my G2 for it. Do you think the G Pro (Snapdragon 600) power will last 3 years and not cause lag/stutter? Do you think app developers can even keep up with this constant hardware update? Snapdragon 600 should still be powerful enough for years to come, no? Reason being, I'm not the type to buy a phone every year, and I like to keep mine for at least 3 years.
Thanks!
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For the life of me, I could not decide between the G2 and the G Pro. I initially wanted the G Pro for the big screen, but then because the specs of the G2 are more 'future proof', I went with that.
In the back of my mind, I still want the G Pro, and still have time to swap my G2 for it. Do you think the G Pro (Snapdragon 600) power will last 3 years and not cause lag/stutter? Do you think app developers can even keep up with this constant hardware update? Snapdragon 600 should still be powerful enough for years to come, no? Reason being, I'm not the type to buy a phone every year, and I like to keep mine for at least 3 years.
Thanks!
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The direction Android is headed is toward better optimization. KitKat makes even old phones seem fast. I have KitKat running on my old Galaxy S3 with only 1GB of RAM and a slower Exynos processor, and it flies. Zero lag.
Three years from now, the LG OG Pro will still be a great phone, and it will probably still be running 4.1.2 officially, sad to say, but you aren't limited to stock ROMs, thankfully.
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The direction Android is headed is toward better optimization. KitKat makes even old phones seem fast. I have KitKat running on my old Galaxy S3 with only 1GB of RAM and a slower Exynos processor, and it flies. Zero lag.
Three years from now, the LG OG Pro will still be a great phone, and it will probably still be running 4.1.2 officially, sad to say, but you aren't limited to stock ROMs, thankfully.
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Thanks for the response!
So, so you think Kit Kat will come to the Optimus G Pro? It is still fairly new. If not, would there be an unofficial Kit Kat release for it? If so, would it be stable enough?
Thanks!
Armydeuno said:
For the life of me, I could not decide between the G2 and the G Pro. I initially wanted the G Pro for the big screen, but then because the specs of the G2 are more 'future proof', I went with that.
In the back of my mind, I still want the G Pro, and still have time to swap my G2 for it. Do you think the G Pro (Snapdragon 600) power will last 3 years and not cause lag/stutter? Do you think app developers can even keep up with this constant hardware update? Snapdragon 600 should still be powerful enough for years to come, no? Reason being, I'm not the type to buy a phone every year, and I like to keep mine for at least 3 years.
Thanks!
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I don't understand your confusion, to me the choice is extremely simple:
1. Does the phone have enough storage?
To me even 32GB (maximum available for G2) is very limiting cause I take videos a lot and keep a lot of music on my device. Optimus G Pro has a SD card slot. Also, meenova or similar is not an option to me because I keep my phones in my pockets and something protruding from the USB socket will surely destroy that socket very soon.
2. Does the phone have a replaceable battery?
I am a very heavy user and current phones really don't stand a chance in terms of battery lifespan, current batteries have a service life which is not sufficient to me (I already killed and replaced one battery on my Galaxy Note within a year due to normal wear). Replacing a battery at a service center for an undisclosed amount of money (usually more than 50 EUR) is absolutely unacceptable to me when I could buy a battery off-the-shelf for 15 EUR and replace it myself in phones with user-replaceable batteries.
3. Is the phone too big to handle and carry?
Since I moved from a SE Xperia Arc S to a Galaxy Note I found out that to me the bigger screen size is a lot more important than the ability to handle the phone with one hand.
The performance margin between the two would be marginal in most scenarios (even to me as a heavy user) and the possible future updates are almost a non-issue because manufacturers tend to stop software support for their phones before the next meaningful Android upgrade has emerged (most Android version upgrades are too incremental to me to make or break the deal, at least since 4.1).
they both great you wont be disappointed
camper the specs and decide
i choose GPro cos:
cost even for 32GB
5.5"
sdcard / battery is replaceable and good
very good performance for my usage I'm not a gamer
great experience from stock [ no lags and GUI is cool ]
easier to hold then note 2 or 3
disadvantages:
camera in low light
lg support no KK?
IMO build is OK but protection needed and recommended
Am I happy with my G Pro? yeah, so happy with it......
so far so great.....
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Am I happy with my G Pro? yeah, so happy with it......
so far so great, and nothing to complain.....
I say go for the g pro. Ive been through 6 phones in less than 2 months and g pro is my fav. I had Xperia Ion, Samsung gs2, Atrix 4g, HTC One, Oppo Find 5 and Nexus 4. Obviously N4 and HTC One had the most devs but g pro is still fairly new and it has so much screen real estate. Im pretty sure once someone gets their hands on that g2 os we will have a port. Things are moving on this thread, slowly, but we are getting there. Out of all my phones i still think g pro is the best.
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Hello,
I have a very limited history with tablets. Only Tegra 2 ones and those were bad days. I do know that Android tablets don't share the attention Android phones have. Still I am looking for a fully and easily customisable and community-friendly tablet as a Nexus 4 user.
First of all Nexus 7 and 10 are not an option in my country. Adding that I hate Samsung this leaves me thinking (actually considering, because I did not even know that G Pad existed) G Pad 8.3 which has a very elegant look and affordable price.
But I have questions; So please help me out with them..
1) Is there OTG support for 2.5" hard drives?
2) Like I said, I am a Nexus 4 user. I have withnessed Note 2's aging before it and it killed me because hardware was there to save the day but Samsung let it die slowly. I also have withnessed Galaxy Nexus's survival throught developers due to its open coded nature. How is the openness in LG world? And how is the software support and community? I don't expect a Nexus 7 easiness but still, some G2, Z1 level customisable-ness and openness would be awesome..
3) Since we mentioned G2, how long do you thing the chipset will survive? Even G2 has S800 (don't mind the CPU but the Adreno 330) but this tablet S600 with Adreno 320. I guess this is a faster and 32 pipeline version of a regular Adreno 320 which comes with S4 Pro right? What do you think for its gaming future? (having Galaxy S4 and 2013 Nexus 7 on board with same or slower GPUs out there makes me think that G Pad 8.3 will survive another 1.5-2 years with ease but I am not sure)
4) How is AOSP? I think there is GPE version but could we easily switch to an AOSP based ROM? How about ROMs like Omni or PA or any other famous and multi-device-supporting ones?
5) Are there any chronical problems? Where should I pay attention before buying?
6) How is the battery time and screen quality?
7) I know I said I hate Samsung but I am going to buy 2 of them (One for my company) and I can find Galaxy Tab 8.4 Pro for an additional 100 Dollars (Lg is 400, Samsung with no Wi-Fi is 500). Considering these questions above would you tell which one is better? Samsung has a better GPU but also has twice many pixels to push out. Especially the GPU is scaring me, GPUs are the only reason I had to change a device-including laptops- in my mobile world experience so far..
8) What are your opinions? Is there any regrets? Or anyone saying "I should have gone for other tablet"?
Thank you for reading this long writing And for the answers of course..
_delice_doluca_ said:
Hello,
I have a very limited history with tablets. Only Tegra 2 ones and those were bad days. I do know that Android tablets don't share the attention Android phones have. Still I am looking for a fully and easily customisable and community-friendly tablet as a Nexus 4 user.
First of all Nexus 7 and 10 are not an option in my country. Adding that I hate Samsung this leaves me thinking (actually considering, because I did not even know that G Pad existed) G Pad 8.3 which has a very elegant look and affordable price.
But I have questions; So please help me out with them..
1) Is there OTG support for 2.5" hard drives?
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Don't know. That reminds me, I need to buy an OTG cable.
2) Like I said, I am a Nexus 4 user. I have withnessed Note 2's aging before it and it killed me because hardware was there to save the day but Samsung let it die slowly. I also have withnessed Galaxy Nexus's survival throught developers due to its open coded nature. How is the openness in LG world? And how is the software support and community? I don't expect a Nexus 7 easiness but still, some G2, Z1 level customisable-ness and openness would be awesome..
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Check out the Dev forum. Recovery and ROMs (CM11, SlimKat, others) are available.
3) Since we mentioned G2, how long do you thing the chipset will survive? Even G2 has S800 (don't mind the CPU but the Adreno 330) but this tablet S600 with Adreno 320. I guess this is a faster and 32 pipeline version of a regular Adreno 320 which comes with S4 Pro right? What do you think for its gaming future? (having Galaxy S4 and 2013 Nexus 7 on board with same or slower GPUs out there makes me think that G Pad 8.3 will survive another 1.5-2 years with ease but I am not sure)
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I have found the S600 with 2GB RAM sufficient to run games like Asphalt 8, Bladeslinger, and Soulcalibur without issues. Games would have to get crazy-intense to cause problems with this tablet.
4) How is AOSP? I think there is GPE version but could we easily switch to an AOSP based ROM? How about ROMs like Omni or PA or any other famous and multi-device-supporting ones?
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There is the GPE, but as of yet you can't switch the LG version and the GPE. Can't say anything about ASOP, although there is a ASOK DEV thread. I haven't done any research about this, so I can't say.
5) Are there any chronical problems? Where should I pay attention before buying?
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None that I'm aware of.
6) How is the battery time and screen quality?
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Battery life seems fine to me. I think the screen looks great. It's not the brightest when it comes to nits, but in my dim apartment it's plenty bright at 75%, although I keep it at 84%. At work, which is brightly lit by fluorescents, 84% is fine too, but I might crank it up to 100% if I'm watching a video. Outdoor visibility might be an issue, but I don't use mine outdoors, so I can't comment on that.
7) I know I said I hate Samsung but I am going to buy 2 of them (One for my company) and I can find Galaxy Tab 8.4 Pro for an additional 100 Dollars (Lg is 400, Samsung with no Wi-Fi is 500). Considering these questions above would you tell which one is better? Samsung has a better GPU but also has twice many pixels to push out. Especially the GPU is scaring me, GPUs are the only reason I had to change a device-including laptops- in my mobile world experience so far..
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Can't say anything about the 8.4 Pro. It's pretty highly regarded in reviews, but from a dev'mod standpoint, I don't know.
8) What are your opinions? Is there any regrets? Or anyone saying "I should have gone for other tablet"?
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I love mine. I use it mainly as a media/entertainment device. Some light, casual games, a few intense ones. Web browsing, Youtube, Netflix. And eBooks. What I love most is the size. It's the only tablet I've owned, but I've played around with 7" and 10.1" Androids and iPads, and none of them "fit". The 7" ones had just a wee bit too small of a screen, and the larger ones were too big and heavy, especially one-handed. But the LG 8.3 is the perfect medium. Thanks to the narrow side bezels I can hold it comfortably in hand in portrait, and the wider top/bottom bezels make it great to hold in landscape. Plus it's light and balanced enough to even hold one-handed in landscape.
I got mine for $250USD. The Tab Pro 8.4 is $350-400USD. If the LG 8.3 was only available for $330-350 from major retailers or eBay, the Tab Pro 8.4 would have been a major consideration. But for $250, the LG 8.3 was the clear choice for me. Occasionally it has been even cheaper (but I missed out on those deals). I can't speak for cost/availability in Turkey, but if it's the same in the US, I'd say both tablets are worth the money. The LG was the better choice for me. But if you want the higher-res screen and better hardware, I wouldn't call the Samsung 8.4 a rip-off at the price.
Hey so been looking around quite a bit at different phones and I think LG G3 appears to be a winner on paper. For phones which I can get for ~free with my AT&T upgrade (which knocks out the Note 4, but includes Moto X 2nd gen, galaxy S4) it has the biggest screen at 5.5" and the biggest battery at 3,000 mah, expandable memory (which the Moto X lacks), the back is removable to replace the battery/sim/etc (Moto X lacks), and has 3 gb of ram. However, I keep reading various reviews, both by critics and on Amazon, and people seem in agreement that the Moto X offers a better experience to the user than the LG G3. They say the G3 is buggy and bloated, the moto x is vanilla android and runs faster for it, the moto x screen is a better picture with the amoled feature, the battery lasts longer in the moto x because the screen does not draw as much power, and one reviewer even states that the G3 performs WORSE on benchmarks than the G2 . I'm curious what your all experience has been? Any insights or thoughts to share to help with this decision? I want to like the G3 better for a variety of reasons, but also don't want to ignore common experience. (well actually I'd like to get the Xperia Z3 for the 20 mp camera, but damn it only has a 5.2" screen, and it doesn't even seem to be sold for AT&T anywhere that I can find).
Thanks in advance!
I will try to give you an honest review , YES the phone is good on paper BUT on daily use is bad , its terrible , you read CPU with 2.5 Ghz woooow , BUT the phone gets hot in 5 minutes and forget about those Ghz , youll get like 1.2 to 1.5 Ghz , because of the 2k screen that gets too hot , battery drains like a 2013 smartphone , snapdragon 801 is a big no no on 2k screen
Camera is bad compared with a Sony Z2....
talking about the LG G2 if it weren't the micro-SD , the removable battery and the camera , it would be a downgrade
i consider the LG G2 better ....better battery life , gaming experience ....
If your choice depends on the price i would consider a sony xperia Z2 , the Lg G3 is not that bad , but having read dozens of persons regretting the buy.....
I would definitely buy this phone(LG G3) if the price were between 200 and 250$ , nothing more
THE BIGGEST CON IS THE SILLY 2K screen , you can lower the resolution but those pixels are still alive .....
this G3 model is a complete headache.....:crying: , i regret not buying the Z2
PD: my english is not good k
kiki0 said:
I will try to give you an honest review , YES the phone is good on paper BUT on daily use is bad , its terrible , you read CPU with 2.5 Ghz woooow , BUT the phone gets hot in 5 minutes and forget about those Ghz , youll get like 1.2 to 1.5 Ghz , because of the 2k screen that gets too hot , battery drains like a 2013 smartphone , snapdragon 801 is a big no no on 2k screen
Camera is bad compared with a Sony Z2....
talking about the LG G2 if it weren't the micro-SD , the removable battery and the camera , it would be a downgrade
i consider the LG G2 better ....better battery life , gaming experience ....
If your choice depends on the price i would consider a sony xperia Z2 , the Lg G3 is not that bad , but having read dozens of persons regretting the buy.....
I would definitely buy this phone(LG G3) if the price were between 200 and 250$ , nothing more
THE BIGGEST CON IS THE SILLY 2K screen , you can lower the resolution but those pixels are still alive .....
this G3 model is a complete headache.....:crying: , i regret not buying the Z2
PD: my english is not good k
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Sell your G3 and buy another phone mate, we allready got wining noobs in stock
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Sell your G3 and buy another phone mate, we allready got wining noobs in stock
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you call me noob , and you have a LG G3 too....the irony in your fanboyism ,haha
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you call me noob , and you have a LG G3 too....the irony in your fanboyism ,haha
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I`am not fanboy of anything realy. Whats wrong is wrong, i agree with the thermal throttling making the phone slower at times. you can however flash a custom rom or kernel to increase the threashold. The camera is great imo and the software is a joy to use compared to Samsung for instance. You`re opinion is a bit too negative about the phone imo. Overall its a good phone and price/quality ratio is excellent. Just my 2 cents
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I`am not fanboy of anything realy. Whats wrong is wrong, i agree with the thermal throttling making the phone slower at times. you can however flash a custom rom or kernel to increase the threashold. The camera is great imo and the software is a joy to use compared to Samsung for instance. You`re opinion is a bit too negative about the phone imo. Overall its a good phone and price/quality ratio is excellent. Just my 2 cents
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Agreed. It sounds like he got a dud or was expecting too much. My phone has never overheated and I can go at least 24 hours without recharging. If I pushed the battery all the way down to 0%, I could probably go 30-36 hours. As most people have the ability to charge their phone every day, going 24 hours is good enough.
The camera on the phone is great as well as the button placement and double tap to wake/sleep. Paired with G3 Tweaksbox and the user experience is delightful.
I've never used the Moto X 2014 but the G3 is by no means a bad phone. One of the best of 2014 IMO.
A few reasons I love this phone:
2k screen
Removable battery
microSD support
Excellent camera
One of the highest screen to body ratios on any phone currently out
Great button placement
Loud speaker
Regarding the thermal throttling and other performance issues, I'm curious, is this still a problem or any better if you go through and debloat the phone (have seen various guides around that look pretty straightforward). Or is it actually more related to the screen size and pixels?
On that note, how does the quality of the screen display compare between the lg g3 (an IPS display right?) And an amoled display like the moto x or galaxy series? Is one a higher picture quality in terms of color, etc?
One of my best friends owns a moto x 2nd gen. I must say it is a beauty, and the feel in the hand is amazing, it screams quality. It has one front facing speaker which is good. Display is a bit on the warmer side, it looks nice and "contrasty", although i'm not a fan of Amoled displays. Oh, and it is very very snappy. Nearly stock android and quick updates is also always a plus. My friend praises it's battery life even though on paper it is nothing special, but it looks like the software is optimized well. As long as you're not a heavy gamer it should easily get you through a day.
I have the 32/3GB G3, i came from a nexus 5. I already mentioned this somewhere around here, it's not as smooth as a nexus 5 (or moto x 2014), but i like some of the added functionality and i can live with the occasional microlags. The speaker is powerful, even though it is firing backwards. The display is ok, i would'nt say it's gorgeous as some say around here, but it's also not bad as others do.
Before i got my G3 i was worried about overheating issues that i read about online, and i have to say, for now i haven't faced this issue (maybe because it's winter and temp. is low, which of course does not count for temp. indoors)
Low thermal throttling threshold is not only a G3 thing, it's also well known on nexus 4 & 5 (both made by LG).
I think lollipop still needs a lot of optimizing (including for nexus devices), and i believe the G3 can only perform better in the future. Although, IMO it will never be as smooth as something running (nearly) stock android.
Oh, and battery life on my G3 is amazing. Over 5h of screen on on a full day uptime. (With my usage pattern of course). Add to all that microSD expansion option, and removable battery -if you're into that or need extra juice. The camera is also a plus on the G3's side.
No one can make the decision instead of you. It's your call. You have to add the + and - of both, and see what suits you best.
My advice is, if you're asking for the better software experience, are not afraid of burn-in on an amoled display and don't need a removable battery/ expandable storage, then go with the Moto X 2014.
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No one can make the decision instead of you. It's your call. You have to add the + and - of both, and see what suits you best.
My advice is, if you're asking for the better software experience, are not afraid of burn-in on an amoled display and don't need a removable battery/ expandable storage, then go with the Moto X 2014.
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Yea you are exactly right. I think it is bothersome that the Moto X does not provide for expandable storage nor battery replacement. But the user experience is important; don't want glitches and hangs. Though that being said, I'm currently using a Galaxy S3 with the unofficial Omni rom port and their kernel, and while it does have some glitches and hang ups it doesn't bother me too much, so I imagine the LG G3 would perform much more smoothly, especially if the Stock rom is in operation rather than a custom port.
Have you tried any of the debloating? (lots of tutorials, here's the one I bookmarked: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-lg-g3/general/guide-how-to-remove-bloatware-att-lg-g3-t2822501)
I'm curious if that would not make the OS feel more "snappy" and "vanilla android" as people keep praising the Moto X for. If that were the case then hands down I would go for the G3 with the removable battery, expandable memory, larger sccreen, etc.
Side note - even though the Moto X does not have a removable back, I would assume there is still a way to exchange the sim easily for when traveling abroad, etc?
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Yea you are exactly right. I think it is bothersome that the Moto X does not provide for expandable storage nor battery replacement. But the user experience is important; don't want glitches and hangs. Though that being said, I'm currently using a Galaxy S3 with the unofficial Omni rom port and their kernel, and while it does have some glitches and hang ups it doesn't bother me too much, so I imagine the LG G3 would perform much more smoothly, especially if the Stock rom is in operation rather than a custom port.
Have you tried any of the debloating? (lots of tutorials, here's the one I bookmarked: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-lg-g3/general/guide-how-to-remove-bloatware-att-lg-g3-t2822501)
I'm curious if that would not make the OS feel more "snappy" and "vanilla android" as people keep praising the Moto X for. If that were the case then hands down I would go for the G3 with the removable battery, expandable memory, larger sccreen, etc.
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The G3 is definitely quicker than the S3 (i had one for 3-4 months back in the day).
As for "debloating", don't take any guide word for word, tastes differ, and there are things you probably wouldn't want to move/delete. I used to "debloat" my nexuses by deleting all Google crap that is found in the playstore, so removing from /system and installing on /data, and then greenify what i want to greenify, and even on a nexus you would see a lil boost in battery and lower RAM usage. So, yeah, removing anything form /system on a G3 should help a bit performance wise, to what extent? i'm not sure. My G3 is full stock and unrooted for the moment, and as i said, i'm not bothered by the occasional lil hickups here and there.
Side note - even though the Moto X does not have a removable back, I would assume there is still a way to exchange the sim easily for when traveling abroad, etc?
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not sure, you should check with your carrier, but if you buy it from Moto directly you do get the lil pin to eject the sim (like the one iphones and many unibody android phones use)
Just saw this, apparently I can get the lg g3 for $0.01 from amazon and they will give me $100 gift card! Hmm, probably will go with being paid $99.99 to take lg g3 over moto x!
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/02/05/deal-buy-an-att-lg-g3-from-amazon-for-cheap-get-100-gift-card/
Zenfone 720p 2GB version vs oneplus one or latest moto g? Is the zenfone 720p better than these 2 budget phones? It's probably more powerful than the moto g but is it more powerful than the oneplus one?
I am more interested in the 720p version as it seems that the high end versions are not great with battery life... and the 720p is well cheaper...
Given, a choice of those 3 I would def go with the ASUS... This phone oozes FLAGSHIP QUALITY specs... for budget pricing.
The ZE500CL 720p 5" won't be as good as the OnePlus One if the scores making rounds on the internet are typical. Motorola has a nice line that's in this price range as well (development too). Camera is sort of hit or miss though from what I've experience personally though. I would wait a bit longer so you don't catch buyers remorse. The ZE551ML models (2/4GB ram 5.5") ooze the flagship for reasonable pricing not the ZE500CL in my opinion. Most accessories online are for the 5.5" screens at the moment too.
I was actually talking about the 720p 5.5" version the ZE550ML
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I was actually talking about the 720p 5.5" version the ZE550ML
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It's such a pity we have to delineate exactly each specific model even. Folks that browse will be lost until they go through each specific model number and what that means. Hell even the lower end models list less supported bands. I dig Asus but this is sort of nuts .
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I was actually talking about the 720p 5.5" version the ZE550ML
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ZE550ML should definitely beat the crap out of any Moto G due to the much better CPU and 2GB RAM. The camera also appears to be much, much better. I think the ZE550ML vs. the OnePlus One is a much closer comparison. The OPO has better specs (3GB Ram, 1080P screen, etc.) but it's also likely that the ZE550ML will sell for much less (Likely at least $100 in the USA) than the OPO so it then becomes a question of if you think the specs bump is worth it. I think it's also almost a certainty that the OPO will have better 3rd party rom support than the ZF2 so if that's important to you than take that into consideration.
Kinda in the same boat here, Padfone S or ZE500ML? Both have the exact same price locally.
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What about ZTE nubia Z7 mini or Z9 mini .... the spec look better then all mentioned phones.
I want a 5.5" phone... I have galaxy s5 and find it too small now lol
I have the ZE550ML (the 5.5 inch 720p 2GB model). It is a different league from the Moto G. The OPO is probably a better comparison. Unless you have extremely sharp eyesight I wouldn't worry about the fact that it is "only" HD - it is very clear and pixels are not visible at comfortable viewing distance (much like the retina iPads). Colours are vivid and true, unlike what I have heard of the OPO. Build quality is also good, a definite step up from the zenfone 5. Again, from what I gather of the OPO that is not guaranteed there due to unreliable QC. Not much difference between the two in performance if benchmarks are to be believed. I think mine scored about 18000 on 3Dmark Unlimited, and is very near the OPO on Antutu. Only pushing 720p helps it fly I suppose. Here is the Antutu result:
As the title says, im considering either of these, reason for 1st gent moto g is because i do not want a tablet phablet or a television in my pocket, which is also the reason im considering the S4 mini
Im located in denmark, i have no issues with installing customs ROMs, so touchjizz is of no issue here.
The S4 mini is about 100-200DKK more than the moto G, (20-30EU, if even that much)
Reasons I have for choosing the S4 are the following:
AMOLED display
Smaller dimensions
1.5GB ram
IR Blaster
NFC
And for the Moto G:
Water resistance
Slightly better PPI
Better brightness outdoors
Better ROM support (slightly)
Quad Core CPU (But lets be honest here, the 1.2GHz Quad core in the moto G is hardly any better than the Dual core 1.7 Krait in the S4 mini)
Not made of slipperly glossy fall out of hands material
So as you can see.. im just torn here, Im not even sure how much better the S4 mini performs with a custom rom compared to the ultra bloated touchjizz
Obviously i looked for reviews of them against each other, but every time they test both of them stock, and the S4 is severaly gimped by touchjizz i assume.
Halp!
I've just received my S4 Mini yesterday and I'm very happy with it so far. I think the S4 Mini if I remember right from reviews and in specs has a slightly better camera if that makes a difference to you . but the Moto G seems like a good phone.
I have yet to root or install a custom ROM due to warranty concerns for the short time being but I don't see match problems with the touchwiz interface so far. So when I do finally root and maybe install a custom ROM without the bloat which some of can be disabled on stock would run very smoothly indeed.
What GPU does the Moto G have?
Moto G 4G makes more sense. Yes I agree that moto falls behind s4 mini in RAW performance. But an optimised stock android UI yields better experience than buggy touchwiz.
Also Moto G 4G will get official android "M" from Moto. S4 Mini may/NOT get official Lollipop. Forget about "M".
I am not familiar with moto but s4 mini has superman devs live arco68 and F4k. So we do have solid custom rom base.
But being a 2013 device s4 mini becomes obselete more quickly.
Even I am having thoughts about new phone. My s4 mini worked splendidly over last 12 months, but recent "drops" resulted in heavy battery drain[hardware fault :crying:]
But here in India we get mostly dual sim phones which are a hell to work with [custom roms]. If I get galaxy S5 G900F for cheap I may buy that.
Otherwise I will wait and buy Moto G 3rd Gen :laugh:
Stock UI S4 Mini VS Moto G. Moto G wins. Custom ROM not sure...
It has the same GPU as the moto g, Adreno 305 IIRC
@THE rest of the replies; thank you for the replies, Im looking at both phones due to the custom rom support too, I do not care for stock at all (i wouldent run the moto g stock either)
Its too bad the moto G does not have nfc and IR blaster, im pretty sure NFC is going to be really good here in denmark soon.. (all bus/train terminals are going to support it for example)
The camera i guess both of them are fine to me
Its a tough choice.. the moto g is hyped quite a bit..
Oh, i forgot to mention, im on an S3 mini right now, which has pretty much the perfect size for me.
when I choose s4 mini there were many other good phones available. But the main reasons for selecting S4 mini were:
1. This is the lightest (only 108 gms.) and very small form factor android phone with such specs available( even till today also).
2.I did not like Touch wiz much, but as of today there are plenty of custom (specially Lollipop based) roms available for this device. And most of the roms are quite usable as daily drivers.
3.SUPER AMOLED!!! I used IPS LCD phones, but once you use S.AMOLED, i think it will be hard to go back.
4. For me phones should be light,small ( best size: Iphone 4) (i hate 5" bulks) and powerful.
on a side note, moto G is also a very good device.
Yep, I also think itll be hard to not have an AMOLED display, my s3 mini has one (PenTiLe though..)
NFC is going to be important i think
the IR blaster is nice.. but dont care much about it..
Only reason im considering the moto g is..
1: Water resistant
2; Higer PPI display, slightly more sharp screen
Both the s4 mini and moto g has a nice thin bezel (1st gen at least)
Both phones are about the same price, normally id go moto g, but seems the S4 mini has a nice community, which is rare, and not just one person making roms for it.
Anyone have any information on the S4 mini feelings towards rain?
And how much did CM11/Carbon help?
Thanks!
Anyone?
Kind of a deciding factor here haha
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Anyone?
Kind of a deciding factor here haha
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Did not get your question about rains!!!? And to me the best kitkat(4.4.4) Rom for my device (s4 mini duos)is PAC MAN KK. Still using it since last 3-4 months. very good rom.
about rain, i mean does a little rain water, if youre outside and it rains, will it mess it up?, or can it at least handle that?
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about rain, i mean does a little rain water, if youre outside and it rains, will it mess it up?, or can it at least handle that?
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Hahaha!....your question really made me laugh. Well, technically speaking this device is not water proof or water resistant. it has got open ports(like usb/charging, speakers,mic etc.) so if any of the electronics contacts with water........you know the answer. Besides even if we get an water resistant phone, we would never ever get some water on it deliberately. So, if water resistance is important to, you better get a SONY xperia z series( they are being advertised as mil-spec type water resistant upto a meter or so).
Moto g less ram is a killer if you're a heavy multitasker
Another option is s4 mini plus LTE. Model number is I9195I
It has 1.5gb ram and 64-bit sd 410 chipset. Problem is samsung
launched that "plus" version without much publicity or fanfare.
So not a lot of people know about its existence. So not much development
with that device. However it should give solid experience as
1.5gb ram + sd410 is much better than sd400 with 1gb ram.
Yeah, im getting the 4G version, not sure if the lotterly will give me the sd400 or 410 version though..
For rom support and community i hope the 400..
for performance 410
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Another option is s4 mini plus LTE. Model number is I9195I
It has 1.5gb ram and 64-bit sd 410 chipset. Problem is samsung
launched that "plus" version without much publicity or fanfare.
So not a lot of people know about its existence. So not much development
with that device. However it should give solid experience as
1.5gb ram + sd410 is much better than sd400 with 1gb ram.
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yeah, would be nice if there was roms for the 9195I since it seems to be overall better.
Sadly im not willing to drop rom support for a 10% better phone though, even when it does have nice battery life (I need my xposed, and non-touchwiz UI, haha)
So ive narrowed down where to buy it, just a few quick questions before i pull the trigger.
Does NFC work with CM and Carbon? both Kitkat and Lollipop.
Same question for the IR Blaster and 4G
Would kinda suck to buy the phone based on those two and the 1.5GB ram and seeing that two of them dont work if they didnt
Im from denmark so i assume its the international version.
Thanks!