Zenfone 720p 2GB version vs oneplus one or latest moto g? Is the zenfone 720p better than these 2 budget phones? It's probably more powerful than the moto g but is it more powerful than the oneplus one?
I am more interested in the 720p version as it seems that the high end versions are not great with battery life... and the 720p is well cheaper...
Given, a choice of those 3 I would def go with the ASUS... This phone oozes FLAGSHIP QUALITY specs... for budget pricing.
The ZE500CL 720p 5" won't be as good as the OnePlus One if the scores making rounds on the internet are typical. Motorola has a nice line that's in this price range as well (development too). Camera is sort of hit or miss though from what I've experience personally though. I would wait a bit longer so you don't catch buyers remorse. The ZE551ML models (2/4GB ram 5.5") ooze the flagship for reasonable pricing not the ZE500CL in my opinion. Most accessories online are for the 5.5" screens at the moment too.
I was actually talking about the 720p 5.5" version the ZE550ML
yeahman45 said:
I was actually talking about the 720p 5.5" version the ZE550ML
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It's such a pity we have to delineate exactly each specific model even. Folks that browse will be lost until they go through each specific model number and what that means. Hell even the lower end models list less supported bands. I dig Asus but this is sort of nuts .
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I was actually talking about the 720p 5.5" version the ZE550ML
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ZE550ML should definitely beat the crap out of any Moto G due to the much better CPU and 2GB RAM. The camera also appears to be much, much better. I think the ZE550ML vs. the OnePlus One is a much closer comparison. The OPO has better specs (3GB Ram, 1080P screen, etc.) but it's also likely that the ZE550ML will sell for much less (Likely at least $100 in the USA) than the OPO so it then becomes a question of if you think the specs bump is worth it. I think it's also almost a certainty that the OPO will have better 3rd party rom support than the ZF2 so if that's important to you than take that into consideration.
Kinda in the same boat here, Padfone S or ZE500ML? Both have the exact same price locally.
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What about ZTE nubia Z7 mini or Z9 mini .... the spec look better then all mentioned phones.
I want a 5.5" phone... I have galaxy s5 and find it too small now lol
I have the ZE550ML (the 5.5 inch 720p 2GB model). It is a different league from the Moto G. The OPO is probably a better comparison. Unless you have extremely sharp eyesight I wouldn't worry about the fact that it is "only" HD - it is very clear and pixels are not visible at comfortable viewing distance (much like the retina iPads). Colours are vivid and true, unlike what I have heard of the OPO. Build quality is also good, a definite step up from the zenfone 5. Again, from what I gather of the OPO that is not guaranteed there due to unreliable QC. Not much difference between the two in performance if benchmarks are to be believed. I think mine scored about 18000 on 3Dmark Unlimited, and is very near the OPO on Antutu. Only pushing 720p helps it fly I suppose. Here is the Antutu result:
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Which one to get, things I'm mostly concerned is battery life,sound quality and android updates - I want it to be supported for next 2 years.
can't compare them. Totally different classes. Compare the oppo with S4,One,Z, not G.
G is S3,One X class. No android device,except nexus , has been supported for 2 years.Only samsung made it for about 18 months,don't know about others.
And i don't know why you are asking us. It's your money, you decide. On paper, Oppo rules, but i don't know the brand so well to recommend it. I read it has great quality build, all impressions and reviews were positive,but...
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can't compare them. Totally different classes. Compare the oppo with S4,One,Z, not G.
G is S3,One X class. No android device,except nexus , has been supported for 2 years.Only samsung made it for about 18 months,don't know about others.
And i don't know why you are asking us. It's your money, you decide. On paper, Oppo rules, but i don't know the brand so well to recommend it. I read it has great quality build, all impressions and reviews were positive,but...
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I don't agree 100% with you.
Oppo is on the range of S4 and One only regarding Full HD display, regarding CPU S4/ One are better, and specially ONE as a smartphone is much better (my opinion).
LGOG has a big advantage IMHO, it has 4G and Oppo don't.
But at the end this is a personnel decision for sure!
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can't compare them. Totally different classes. Compare the oppo with S4,One,Z, not G.
G is S3,One X class. No android device,except nexus , has been supported for 2 years.Only samsung made it for about 18 months,don't know about others.
And i don't know why you are asking us. It's your money, you decide. On paper, Oppo rules, but i don't know the brand so well to recommend it. I read it has great quality build, all impressions and reviews were positive,but...
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You know that the s4pro in the g is nearly the same as the s600? I dont agree with you. The s3 has amoled and 1 gig and no 4g and exynos soc. The s4 has the s600 but also amoled and plastic all over the place. The z is on par with the g but feels like crap.
The oppo is bigger, has a hd screen resolution but a small battery with no 4g connectivity. I still prefer the g!
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I9305 or s3 lte has 2gb ram and lte.so yea,i can compare.
I said full hd devices should be in different classes.it's like comparing the e klasse with s klasse from mercedes.they are great machines,top notch,but with things making them so different.
This week i'll get my hands on the find5.a coleague ordered it.so i will be able to make a proper review.
Still,i wouldn't change my g now
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Oppo and LGOG seem to have the same cpu + gpu, makes them the same, a bulkier screen and an unnecessarily high resolution IMHO to suck up the batt as well as sluggier performance in games due to being full HD, compare and see for yourself !! S4 i9505, G Pro and ONE have s600.. a different lvl
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You know that the s4pro in the g is nearly the same as the s600?
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Nearly, but not nearly as close as you think. There's a lot of small changes in the Krait 300 (CPU in the S600) that give it a 10-15% performance advantage over the Krait 200 (CPU in the S4 Pro). And it can run at 1.9 GHz vs 1.5 GHz.
The Adreno 320 GPU is also tweaked slightly giving it another 10-15% advantage.
And power draw overall remains the same.
IOW, the S600 is an upgrade over the S4 Pro. If you already have a phone with an S4 Pro, it's probably not worth it to upgrade to an S600. But, if you are choosing between two new phones, one with the S4 Pro and one with the S600, the latter is a better deal.
Optimus G will be with me tommorow but I still dont know.. I can sell LGOG as a brand new add some more money and get Oppo.. which one has better battery life and screen? I know Oppo one is bigger but what about quality? just because it's full hd dont mean it's better quality..
Bigger screen == bigger battery drain
More pixels to push == bigger battery drain
And there's significantly more of each compared to the Optimus G.
The battery is larger, though (2500 mAh vs 2100-ish mAh). I wouldn't expect battery life to be much better on the Oppo, maybe the same as the OG.
My old phone was broken last week (eMMC flash half-died for no reason, malfunction charging port and touch part of the screen). :angel:
I'm planning to buy a Zenfone 2, but I'm kinda confuse because there are too many variants
As I know, the different is processor clock, storage and especially RAM and display resolution.
My old phone using 4.7" 1280x800 display, so 1280x720 in 5.5" isn't a big problem.
I think 2GB of RAM kinda enough for me (I'm not playing any heavy game, just some card games, multi-tasking with Facebook, PowerAMP, SwiftKey, BookReader and Skype while using Facebook)
Does the lower spec variant (ZE550ML) give me better battery life? Because it's lower processor clock and especially lower display resolution.
If isn't much (I'm pretty sure it will affect battery life), I will pay more 50 bucks to go with ZE551ML for Full HD display.
I already have a 32GB class 10 so 16GB or 32GB internal is enough for me :laugh:
Sorry for my poor English.
Update: I have new deal for Xiaomi Mi4 (yes, the flagship) with $250.
Now I'm confusing between Zenfone 2 and Mi4
If they sort the OS out, the 550 should definitely give you better battery life, but at the moment android system is the main thing drinking the juice, not the screen. Anyway, I went for the 550 to save money (where I live it was the equivalent of about $100 less than the 551 with the same 1.8ghz CPU, and $150 less than the 2.3ghz model). I don't regret my decision. The 720p screen is good enough for my old eyes and because it is pushing fewer pixels it is near enough as fast as the 2.3ghz model. 2GB memory is plenty - who really needs to do heavy multitasking on a phone anyway? Multitasking for me means, at most, web surfing and checking facebook while listening to podcasts or streaming radio. No problem. I also have zero need for NFC. The reduced storage (16GB V 32 OR 64) is the biggest drawback for me, but with SD card support it is not a big issue - this ain't no iPhone (or S6) Of course the 2.3ghz 4GB 551 is better, but if you are on a tight budget the 550 is exceptional value.
The 550 should be good enough for your uses. 551 is more for heavy gaming and multitasking.
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I split the difference and went with the 1.8GHz/4GB RAM variant. You'll get the sharper display and double the RAM without having to spend another $50 to get the faster CPU. I think it's a good compromise if you can't quite stretch to the 2.3GHz model. With the fact that you can use a microSD and OTG it isn't a big deal to only get 32GB instead of 64 (for me at least). As was mentioned, the main power drain is due to software issues which will hopefully get patched soon.
The 550 is considerably cheaper though and the max screen brightness is supposed noticeably better for some reason. Might be a consideration if you use the phone outside in bright conditions a lot, since the 551 is pretty poor in that respect.
Thank you guys for replying.
It's kinda hard to find ZE551ML with 2GB RAM and 16GB storage even at grey market here.
The 551 at grey market is the same price with the 550 (distributed by an authorized distributor) but usually out of stock. And they have the same 12-month warranty duration.
The 551 with more 50 bucks that I mentioned above is 2GB RAM/32GB storage version.
I think I will take the ZE551ML. :victory:
Archmage1809 said:
Thank you guys for replying.
It's kinda hard to find ZE551ML with 2GB RAM and 16GB storage even at grey market here.
The 551 at grey market is the same price with the 550 (distributed by an authorized distributor) but usually out of stock. And they have the same 12-month warranty duration.
The 551 with more 50 bucks that I mentioned above is 2GB RAM/32GB storage version.
I think I will take the ZE551ML. :victory:
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Good choice... Also I just want to mention that not only the OS is drinking the battery juice. Intel's binary translator is called often,too,as soon as you execute a non-x86 compatible app
Update: I have new deal for Xiaomi Mi4 (yes, the flagship) with $250.
Now I'm confusing between Zenfone 2 and Mi4
I didn't know there was a ZE551 model with 2 gb/16gb version, we only have two versions here ze550 with 4gb/16gb/1.8mhz and the ze551 with 4gb/64gb/2.3mhz, for a $125 cdn more I'll take the ze551 hands down because it's faster core and 4x the storage.
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Update: I have new deal for Xiaomi Mi4 (yes, the flagship) with $250.
Now I'm confusing between Zenfone 2 and Mi4
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its s flagship but i heard alot of over heating mi4..if you can deal with that then its up to you
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I split the difference and went with the 1.8GHz/4GB RAM variant. You'll get the sharper display and double the RAM without having to spend another $50 to get the faster CPU. I think it's a good compromise if you can't quite stretch to the 2.3GHz model. With the fact that you can use a microSD and OTG it isn't a big deal to only get 32GB instead of 64 (for me at least). As was mentioned, the main power drain is due to software issues which will hopefully get patched soon.
The 550 is considerably cheaper though and the max screen brightness is supposed noticeably better for some reason. Might be a consideration if you use the phone outside in bright conditions a lot, since the 551 is pretty poor in that respect.
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no wonder i see lots of people saying zenfone 2 brightness are too low..your correct ..maybe they have the 551 version..as to my 550ml screen brightness is above average and screen brightness when settings high goes really high..i meant literally bright its jus 720 * 1080 p
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its s flagship but i heard alot of over heating mi4..if you can deal with that then its up to you
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no wonder i see lots of people saying zenfone 2 brightness are too low..your correct ..maybe they have the 551 version..as to my 550ml screen brightness is above average and screen brightness when settings high goes really high..i meant literally bright its jus 720 * 1080 p
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I have 551 ang brightness is not an issue.
Posted using my phone.
jose makalolot said:
I have 551 ang brightness is not an issue.
Posted using my phone.
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I have the same model brightness it's sufficient for my use, not as nice as my super amoled screen on my galaxy but I also didn't pay the price for it, I'm quite happy with my zf2, the features and speed totally out weighs the nice screen.
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I'm planning to sell my old Z1C for a 5.5 inch Zenfone 2 (2gb)... Will it be worth it? How's overall performace on this? App compatibilities (the mobile Intel processor is foreign to me)? Official and dev support?
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I'm planning to sell my old Z1C for a 5.5 inch Zenfone 2 (2gb)... Will it be worth it? How's overall performace on this? App compatibilities (the mobile Intel processor is foreign to me)? Official and dev support?
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I happen to love my ZF2 ZE551 4/64 since it can run Windoze 7 & 8 w/ a custom kernel supporting kvm. Just my 2 cents
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I happen to love my ZF2 ZE551 4/64 since it can run Windoze 7 & 8 w/ a custom kernel supporting kvm. Just my 2 cents
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Woah! Windows Phone roms??! That sounds fantastic... But compared to your 4gb device, how will the 2gb one fair? I do basic multitasking, multimedia browsing and my Z1C's 2gb has served me well though...
P.S. My budget doesn't grasp the 4gb model
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Woah! Windows Phone roms??! That sounds fantastic... But compared to your 4gb device, how will the 2gb one fair? I do basic multitasking, multimedia browsing and my Z1C's 2gb has served me well though...
P.S. My budget doesn't grasp the 4gb model
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lol, no desktop Windoze... not windows phone Please see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/general/zf2-running-windows-7-using-kvm-t3153299
tbh? I'm sure the 2gb phone will be fine for most anything. I have yet to find any apps that don't work on my ZF2 & most Android apps are NOT going to use 2 gigs of ram.
Don't think you'll have any problem with the 2GB version. Is it the 1.8ghz or the 2.3ghz model? Again, it shouldn't make a huge difference - the two chips have identical architecture, the same base speed and the same gpu. The only difference is the higher spec one can turbo higher in bursts. There are some corners cut to sell a device as cheaply as the Zenfone range, but powerful performance isn't lacking, and though it is a low to mid-range device I believe you get more than you pay for and it punches above it's weight. I came from an iPhone 5 to my Zenfone ZE550ML and I love it.
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Don't think you'll have any problem with the 2GB version. Is it the 1.8ghz or the 2.3ghz model? Again, it shouldn't make a huge difference - the two chips have identical architecture, the same base speed and the same gpu. The only difference is the higher spec one can turbo higher in bursts. There are some corners cut to sell a device as cheaply as the Zenfone range, but powerful performance isn't lacking, and though it is a low to mid-range device I believe you get more than you pay for and it punches above it's weight. I came from an iPhone 5 to my Zenfone ZE550ML and I love it.
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I understand the ZF2's stance in the high-mid range of the market however I'm concerned whether the ZF2 will be a downgrade from my Z1C... I'm particularly hoping the ZF2 as similarly snappy and capable as my Z1C but with the advantages that come as a phone thats released this year as opposed to the 2013 Z1C.
Also the Z1C has an amazing camera that has served me well. How's the ZF2's camera?
Well, benchmarks suggest the Zenfone 2 has quite a big performance advantage over your Z1C, and most users on here will probably tell you that it is very smooth and snappy to use in real everyday usage too. The camera on the Zenfone has its detractors, but mostly they are comparing it to things like the Galaxy S6 or iPhones. It is not perfect by any means, but a capable camera given the price. All reviews I have read pretty much slate the Z1/Z1C's camera though, so you might find that the Zenfone's is at least on a par.
Hey guys, I'm really frustrated about this. I know oneplus 3 is a great smartphone. With a couple of problems. Like storage battery and camera. There are various other options out there too especially mi5s plus. Having snapdragon 821, more battery, 6gb of ram ,better camera and more storage 128 gb for almost the same price. Availability is not a problem as I'm in China. So guys please help and guide me about what should I do and what will be the better buy.
the camera of op3 is great. it's awesome. the real problem is people; they don't know how they can take good pictures with it. Most of the time, the photos of op3 are even sharper than S7 Edge pics...
with manual photography option you can take even more great pictures.
OP3 is a Leader in performance. you can compare it to everything (except iphone). The Dev Support of OP3 is just incredible. and don't forget about price...
So i can clearly tell that Oneplus 3 is sort of best android phone you can buy right now... don't let people and reviews fool you...
Which country do you live in and does the Mi5S support LTE there? Here in the US, no LTE at all.
i have the same question right now...
the only thing that make me hesitating about Xiaomi
is:
1- its not fully supporting all LTE frequency in France as Oneplus 3
2- it based on marshmallow 6.0 while Oneplus 3 on 6.0.1
while for Xiaomi
1- newer processor 821 vs 820
2- faster charge
3- bigger storage 128 vs 64
4- 2 cameras of 13mb vs one 16mb
5- bigger battery 3800 vs 3000
for price, it does not make that difference 2500 CNY vs 2600 CNY in china (375 $ vs 390 $)... 15$ !!!!!!
for warranty, in Europe, we don't have official dialer for both of them
for support, both of them supported by XDA
for both of them, as i live in Europe, i have to buy it through internet dealer
but this is not a problem for you since you are already in China
alirezamatrian1 said:
the camera of op3 is great. it's awesome. the real problem is people; they don't know how they can take good pictures with it. Most of the time, the photos of op3 are even sharper than S7 Edge pics...
with manual photography option you can take even more great pictures.
OP3 is a Leader in performance. you can compare it to everything (except iphone). The Dev Support of OP3 is just incredible. and don't forget about price...
So i can clearly tell that Oneplus 3 is sort of best android phone you can buy right now... don't let people and reviews fool you...
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Yeah I know, ofcourse but the real problem is the storage. And the new xiaomi mi5s plus is the new leader in performance it's benchmark has landed it above even the one plus 3 and the dual camera setup takes way better pictures. But there is OIS in it and the design and finger print reader makes me a little worried in buying it.
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Which country do you live in and does the Mi5S support LTE there? Here in the US, no LTE at all.
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I plan to stay in China for a while. But personally what do you think about this ? I don't like the design of the plus varient
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i have the same question right now...
the only thing that make me hesitating about Xiaomi
is:
1- its not fully supporting all LTE frequency in France as Oneplus 3
2- it based on marshmallow 6.0 while Oneplus 3 on 6.0.1
while for Xiaomi
1- newer processor 821 vs 820
2- faster charge
3- bigger storage 128 vs 64
4- 2 cameras of 13mb vs one 16mb
5- bigger battery 3800 vs 3000
for price, it does not make that difference 2500 CNY vs 2600 CNY in china (375 $ vs 390 $)... 15$ !!!!!!
for warranty, in Europe, we don't have official dialer for both of them
for support, both of them supported by XDA
for both of them, as i live in Europe, i have to buy it through internet dealer
but this is not a problem for you since you are already in China
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OMG borther!!!
Same thinking, but I actually think the fast charging on op3 is alot better and the fingerprint reader seems to be faster then 5s plus. Also the design the main thing that is making me think the decision of buying plus. I really love op3 but this storage is really making me think. As 5s plus is almost the same price for double the storage with better performance and camera. I hoped that they would make the 5s plus also look a little better in term of design.
You know I have Mi5s plus and I don't observe any lags in finger scanning. Also it is located in Perfect place. I had S7edge and Home Button sometimes got me frustrated. And about LTE800- yes it is a bit confusing to go outside of big cities and have only UMTS speed. But for me is not a very big issue because I dont transfer huge files over mobile data. The big problem is OTG support - it is not supporting external hdd drives and even ssd disks. I used sucessfully only pendrive with 64gb- this is the thing which gives Mi5s plus a big minus. Rest are Perfect.
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hi, dear all
if anyone can tell the biggest difference between Oneplus 3 and Oneplus5 ?
Gsmarena will tell you much better than us I think, there is a great comparison tool
I'd say the most strikingly obvious one would be the camera setup: the rear camera sports a dual-camera setup and the front camera has an upgraded specs in it (though I cannot speak for their quality since I have never personally tried them myself).
Going down from camera, there isn't much of a difference; The usual specs bump are there: new SoC (Snapdragon 835 vs OnePlus3's Snapdragon 820), more storage capacity which also happen to have more RAM (as long as you pick the 8/128 model).
If you're going WAY down, you can also spot upgrades like Bluetooth 5.0, the same battery capacity as the OnePlus 3T, and a very minor dual LED flash which upgrades over the single LED flash of the OnePlus 3.
Oh and of course, the updated design, but that's obvious.
Long story short, camera and SoC. With OP5 also being a bit more expensive.
If you're shopping, I'd say forget both and go for the new 5T (if budget allows). That screen alone is worth it. If not, you can't go wrong with either of older ones.
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I'd say the most strikingly obvious one would be the camera setup: the rear camera sports a dual-camera setup and the front camera has an upgraded specs in it (though I cannot speak for their quality since I have never personally tried them myself).
Going down from camera, there isn't much of a difference; The usual specs bump are there: new SoC (Snapdragon 835 vs OnePlus3's Snapdragon 820), more storage capacity which also happen to have more RAM (as long as you pick the 8/128 model).
If you're going WAY down, you can also spot upgrades like Bluetooth 5.0, the same battery capacity as the OnePlus 3T, and a very minor dual LED flash which upgrades over the single LED flash of the OnePlus 3.
Oh and of course, the updated design, but that's obvious.
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thank you very much
Explorer23 said:
Long story short, camera and SoC. With OP5 also being a bit more expensive.
If you're shopping, I'd say forget both and go for the new 5T (if budget allows). That screen alone is worth it. If not, you can't go wrong with either of older ones.
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5T is too expensive, i will not consider it