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I know there are a lot versus threads popping up (OP3 vs Samsung S7, OP3 vs Nexus 6P,.. ), but I would really like to hear your opinions about the ZTE Axon 7.
https://www.zteusa.com/axon7/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7
I'm very interested in the Oneplus 3, but the Axon 7 looks so promising.
I really don't understand why this device isn't getting more attention. (Bad marketing?)
It is on many point familiar with the OP3. But imo has more interesting features.
They are releasing a 6GB/128GB model and a 4GB/64GB model.
- Same Snapdragon 820 CPU
- Same Adreno 530 GPU
- Both are Dual SIM
- Same screen size
Pro's for the ZTE Axon 7
MicroSD support
1440 x 2560 resolution display instead of 1080 x 1920.
20MP camera (can't really compare the quality)
Quality dual front facing speakers
Larger battery (not by much. 3140 vs 3000 mAh)
Pro's for the Oneplus 3
Great community and custom rom support.
Comparison between the two on GSMArena
I also prefer the fingerprint sensor on the back, but I admit this is personal preference.
The only thing I'm afraid of would be the possible lack of a community.
So please tell me. Why should I choose the Oneplus 3?
I personally don't know anything about zte development here on xda(my bad) the specs are look really promising.
But think about it. It's only 140mAh more battery for a 2K display...and don't want to mention the phone's own UI(talking about the optimization)
It is a bad marketing from ZTE, I haven't heard about the device at all....
The sd card is just unnecessary for the 6gb/128gb IMHO.
When is this phone gonna be released? Interested abou the price and want to know if it will have a European version....
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It is a AMOLED display, so battery shouldn't be too affected.. They are aiming for google daydream support after all and a resolution like that is required.
The MicroSD slot is a hybrid SIM-slot. Unnecessary since I will be using 2 sims, and like you said, 128GB is more than enough storage. But useful when I think of flashing a new rom.
If I read correct the release should be somewhere in mid June - begin Juli.
So hopefully not much longer.
I have been searching for a phone for at least 6 months and this phone was on my list.
I compared the OP 3, Axon 7, and the Zenphone 3 deluxe.
All very similar in specs besides the screen on ZTE axon 7. Both zenfone 3 d and axon have the front facing speakers, but also both start at a higher price tag for what I consider not important enough features for me to justify the jump.
The oneplus 3 has everything on the inside the other two do, yet an appealing price tag, and developer community is not just supported, but encouraged. This made the phone a win in my book. I can manage fine with a decent display and lose the dual front facing speakers (which I really wanted). It literally depends on how much your willing to spend for what is important to you.
Either way, the ZTE seems to be a fine phone, and is a top contender for anyone. I just didn't want to pay more for a less ram/storage option over what the op3 offered me.
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Keep in mind that the ZTE offers a free extended warranty program 'Passport 2.0'.
A similar warranty program for the OP3 costs you $80 extra.
Axon 7 + Passport 2.0 (2 years warranty and free out-of-warranty repairs): $450
OnePlus3 + On-Guard Plus 24 (2 years protection similar to Passport 2.0): $399 + $80 = $479.
But yeah.. not that I was going to buy that extra warranty for the OP3. So I get your point.
Coming from the 10, a lot of the Axon 7s features really struck a chord with me, like the dual FFS, and their insane attention to detail when it comes to headphone audio.
However, aside from that I can think of like 0 reason to pick it over the 10 or the OP3. Why am I going to OP3/7 after owning a 10? Great question. I just have an obsession with trying new phones. Maybe an addiction.
Not sure either will stay, but I love trying them all.
There is also the ZUK Z2 Pro which has a 5.2" Full HD screen.
Last time I took a look at the ZTE Axon 7 this was what I learned:
- ZTE = active in USA (outside their home markets), Passport 2.0 program applies to USA (afaik), ZTE is looking to expand their activity in EU but so far they don't even really have an active EU site (again afaik).
- I have contacted ZTE about EU availability, they did "not know anything" at the time, ZTE UK even tweeted Q4 release in UK (in 4 months maybe the new nexus is the new star).
twitter.com/ZTE_UK/status/743094792049987584
- The 'normal' Axon 7 has huge top/bottom bezels, the premium (6GB version, touch force, wood inlay, capacitive buttons on the bottom) is again no information on if it would launch in USA/EMEA markets (maybe China only). I was very interested in the premium for a short time but I have serious doubts they won't put a 500+ $/€ price tag on it, which blows past my price point for a "Chinese Brand" phone.
Pretty much the same applies to the Zuk Z2 Pro which is only available in EU region through import (so far) and that raises the price as well.
Now all this was last week, maybe fresh info points to other availability/launch dates.
tl:dr: For USA Axon7 is a OP3 contender, for EU we'll have to wait (for months possibly).
I've tried ZTE in the past, non of the ZTE devices I've owned have ever received updates or timely ones, and the XDA community for these devices just doesn't exist. My dad's Alcatel phone recently died (another garbage brand), and I decided to get him ZTE phone. I knew that I shouldn't have, and I was right, the capacitive keys just stopped working on it, and my dad is currently using it without them until I get him a better phone... Just avoid the following brands BLU, Alcatel, ZTE, ASUS (for smartphones), and the myriad of cheap Chinese brands out there. Either the XDA community will not exist, and/or they do not support their devices, and/or the hardware quality control is piss poor. The only Chinese brands I trust are Oneplus, Xiaomi, and Huawei.
You actually trust xiaomi? The Mi5 is the most flimsy phone I have ever felt lmao...
I should tell you. This phone was given to me for development purposes. 1st time in the pocket... Cracked screen
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You actually trust xiaomi? The Mi5 is the most flimsy phone I have ever felt lmao...
I should tell you. This phone was given to me for development purposes. 1st time in the pocket... Cracked screen
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The only Chinese branded smartphones I've owned from the brands I recommended have been the OPO and the 6P. To this day both of those stand as the only two smartphones that I call the best I've ever had. As far as Xiaomi goes, I've been very happy with their Yi action cam and the random home electronic devices, trinkets, and accessories I've bought from them. Hell, I even use their huge mouse and keyboard pads on my gaming rig now. I've heard many good things about their smartphones, but I trust you in your assessment of them, smartphones are a lot harder to pull off.
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Awesome. Thanks for the feedback!
Guess I'm going to wait a bit longer for the release announcement, but as it looks now, the OP3 looks like the better choice when you're in the EU.
I had to think about aswell and my choice ist the axon 7. Better Display, Better Sound and Better camera. It has am mircosd Slot. Look at this Video. http://youtu.be/anmqPsVYeN0/
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I think a big determining factor for me is well the zte axon 7 be be rootable? We know the one plus 3 will be but many of other zte phones weren't rootable.
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I was on the fringe between buying op3 or waiting for the axon 7. I decided on the op3 for two reasons. , Capacitive buttons, 6gb ram and dev support. OK 3 reasons. I am French American and travel to France a lot. I looked the ZTE for the front speakers and full Eu and USA LTE bands. But i decided on the op3. Excited to receive it.
My reason for OP3 was minimal bloatware, and presece of google services. Now this is kinda something you better dont expect right out of the box with the chinese phones. You can install google services, yes, but there might be some issues here and there. The Axon7 is a beast. But wheb you look at Axon Elite, which is sold for $200 and has not that great support well...
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My reason for OP3 was minimal bloatware, and presece of google services. Now this is kinda something you better dont expect right out of the box with the chinese phones. You can install google services, yes, but there might be some issues here and there. The Axon7 is a beast. But wheb you look at Axon Elite, which is sold for $200 and has not that great support well...
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The axon 7 has google service..
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one huge PRO for the OP3 is OxygenOS, which is near stock vs the touchwize-like modifications on the ZTE Axon
Pro's:
- Really need 2k display ? (Google Daydream also applys for thr Oneplus 3)
- Micro SdCard is for Musik&Pictures&Videos etc. If you have a lot okay (64gb modell). But 64Gb is enougth imo
- More Battery doesn't mean better batterylife (+2K display uses more)
I'll recommend you the OnePlus 3 after using it for a Month.
Pro's for the OnePlus 3:
- Really easy unlocking bootloader (one fastboot command) + warrenty
- Great Dev Community
- Great Stock OS
- Rocking Fingerprintsensor
(- I like the Design more, it just looks more premium imo )
- really big Pro is DASH Charge
OnePlus 3 - OP3Lite | systemless root | xposed v86 ?
I have both and right now, I'd have to say unless you need a SLIGHTLY better camera, or stronger cell reception then your better off with the Axon 7. Speaker, DAC, screen, build and battery are all better on the Axon. in places im seeing signals of -120 to -123db on my Axon, the OnePlus is at -116 to 118. Even with that said, the Axon still takes the win on battery life.
Guys im really thinking about buying the oneplus 3.
but when i compare the oneplus one vs the oneplus 3 i cant see a lot of differences.
IPS LCD - Super AMOLED
13 megapixels - 16 megapixels
autofocus - Optical image stabilization
Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 - Qualcomm Snapdragon 820
3 GB RAM - 6 GB RAM
3100 mAh - 3000 mAh
LTE, UMTS - LTE-A Cat 6
microUSB - USB Type-C
180€ - 400€
So nobody need 6gb ram, the 801 is good enough for daily use. Saving half the price for a bigger battery and less camera pixels, sounds like a fair deal. What do you thin and did i missed something?
NFC, faster GPU , dash charge , slimmer , sexier , the list goes on , get the one plus 3
after using op3 i would not look to op1.
acmerw said:
after using op3 i would not look to op1.
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Why?
3Plus said:
NFC, faster GPU , dash charge , slimmer , sexier , the list goes on , get the one plus 3
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oneplus one has nfc
if you read my post, even if the oneplus 3 is faster, the 1 is also able to play or use every app you want to even if it takes 2 more seconds to load big games
dash charge is not that important for me i always have a batterypack with me
moreover i can understand why thy try to build as thin as possible i would be fine with a thicker phone if it has a 4000mha battery inside.
something else i should consider?
carrier frequency bands and VoLTE are a pretty big change if youre in the USA and have Tmo or ATT
My Dad has the OP1 and I've just got the OP3... there is no comparison believe me! The 801 may have been a good chip over 2 years ago but the OP3 is blisteringly fast when comparing the two. Also screen is far more vibrant, contrasty and brighter, camera is definitely better, and although it has a smaller battery it's already clear from the other forum posts that the OP3 can provide a much greater screen on time than OP1. Also build quality is not comparable, the OP3 has even better build quality than my outgoing iPhone 6 Plus (no kidding!). Take the plunge, you won't regret it.
twinko said:
Why?
oneplus one has nfc
if you read my post, even if the oneplus 3 is faster, the 1 is also able to play or use every app you want to even if it takes 2 more seconds to load big games
dash charge is not that important for me i always have a batterypack with me
moreover i can understand why thy try to build as thin as possible i would be fine with a thicker phone if it has a 4000mha battery inside.
something else i should consider?
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Well stick to your one plus one and stop whining then....you wouldn't of posted if you didn't somewhat want the op3, I think it's a case of you cannot afford it and trying to justify you're purchase....lol
twinko said:
Why?
oneplus one has nfc
if you read my post, even if the oneplus 3 is faster, the 1 is also able to play or use every app you want to even if it takes 2 more seconds to load big games
dash charge is not that important for me i always have a batterypack with me
moreover i can understand why thy try to build as thin as possible i would be fine with a thicker phone if it has a 4000mha battery inside.
something else i should consider?
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fingerprint reader & camera performance.
2x4 said:
carrier frequency bands and VoLTE are a pretty big change if youre in the USA and have Tmo or ATT
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I don't think VoLTE works on ATT.
My outgoing phone was the OPO and I don't regret it at all with my new OP3.
It's a bit if a stretch of budget.. But it pays you back well.
Joyo-rocker said:
My outgoing phone was the OPO and I don't regret it at all with my new OP3.
It's a bit if a stretch of budget.. But it pays you back well.
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if you have the direct comparrison to the OPO, what are the benefits and was the OPO better in something?
Kind regards
twinko said:
if you have the direct comparrison to the OPO, what are the benefits and was the OPO better in something?
Kind regards
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If you ask me the only thing the OPO was better in was CyanogenOS although oxygen also improved over time. Despite the smaller battery, battery life on the OP3 is on par if not better then the OPO for me. Since lollipop battery life was bad on OPO you know.
Dash charging en build quality alone is enough to buy the OP3 over the OPO
@k.s.deviate AT&T was supposed to have rolled out VoLTE by now, but we all know how carriers never follow through. By the time they do, something bigger and better already out...LOL.
@twinko most things are phased out by design to force you to upgrade. While the OPO is still a great device in my opinion, the lack of arm64 support may limit in development for the future. If you would like a future proofed phone for the time being, you'll need to get the OP2 or OP3. No one can say for sure, but Google may just stop making 32 bit Android altogether from this point. So unless you just want to stick with mm and below, this might also be something to consider.
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@k.s.deviate AT&T was supposed to have rolled out VoLTE by now, but we all know how carriers never follow through. By the time they do, something bigger and better already out...LOL.
@twinko most things are phased out by design to force you to upgrade. While the OPO is still a great device in my opinion, the lack of arm64 support may limit in development for the future. If you would like a future proofed phone for the time being, you'll need to get the OP2 or OP3. No one can say for sure, but Google may just stop making 32 bit Android altogether from this point. So unless you just want to stick with mm and below, this might also be something to consider.
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VoLTE is rolled out, but ATT currently only supports certain devices.. Same with Rogers in Canada, they wont support a device that they don't sell.
k.s.deviate said:
VoLTE is rolled out, but ATT currently only supports certain devices.. Same with Rogers in Canada, they wont support a device that they don't sell.
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VoLTE isn't completely rolled out in the US for all AT&T areas. I'm in California, and have not seen this service activated. Last conversation I had with a rep in my area said they won't even start upgrading towers around here for "a while," whatever that means. My previous two phones were VoLTE capable bought from AT&T and couldn't take advantage of it. My wife's current phone is less than 3 months old through them and we don't see it on there either. But you also have a very valid point. Me having to use my old phones imei to get LTE service is stupid, but they don't have the OP3 listed as a capable device so...
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twinko said:
if you have the direct comparrison to the OPO, what are the benefits and was the OPO better in something?
Kind regards
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I think honestly the only plus point the OPO had now is the fact that it is more dev friendly.
It has more development as it is quite old now.
It has better speakers courtesy the stereo sound mod on XDA. Better display calibration aka Kernel auditor and better uniqueness.
That's to it in my honest opinion.
Hey guys, I'm really frustrated about this. I know oneplus 3 is a great smartphone. With a couple of problems. Like storage battery and camera. There are various other options out there too especially mi5s plus. Having snapdragon 821, more battery, 6gb of ram ,better camera and more storage 128 gb for almost the same price. Availability is not a problem as I'm in China. So guys please help and guide me about what should I do and what will be the better buy.
the camera of op3 is great. it's awesome. the real problem is people; they don't know how they can take good pictures with it. Most of the time, the photos of op3 are even sharper than S7 Edge pics...
with manual photography option you can take even more great pictures.
OP3 is a Leader in performance. you can compare it to everything (except iphone). The Dev Support of OP3 is just incredible. and don't forget about price...
So i can clearly tell that Oneplus 3 is sort of best android phone you can buy right now... don't let people and reviews fool you...
Which country do you live in and does the Mi5S support LTE there? Here in the US, no LTE at all.
i have the same question right now...
the only thing that make me hesitating about Xiaomi
is:
1- its not fully supporting all LTE frequency in France as Oneplus 3
2- it based on marshmallow 6.0 while Oneplus 3 on 6.0.1
while for Xiaomi
1- newer processor 821 vs 820
2- faster charge
3- bigger storage 128 vs 64
4- 2 cameras of 13mb vs one 16mb
5- bigger battery 3800 vs 3000
for price, it does not make that difference 2500 CNY vs 2600 CNY in china (375 $ vs 390 $)... 15$ !!!!!!
for warranty, in Europe, we don't have official dialer for both of them
for support, both of them supported by XDA
for both of them, as i live in Europe, i have to buy it through internet dealer
but this is not a problem for you since you are already in China
alirezamatrian1 said:
the camera of op3 is great. it's awesome. the real problem is people; they don't know how they can take good pictures with it. Most of the time, the photos of op3 are even sharper than S7 Edge pics...
with manual photography option you can take even more great pictures.
OP3 is a Leader in performance. you can compare it to everything (except iphone). The Dev Support of OP3 is just incredible. and don't forget about price...
So i can clearly tell that Oneplus 3 is sort of best android phone you can buy right now... don't let people and reviews fool you...
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Yeah I know, ofcourse but the real problem is the storage. And the new xiaomi mi5s plus is the new leader in performance it's benchmark has landed it above even the one plus 3 and the dual camera setup takes way better pictures. But there is OIS in it and the design and finger print reader makes me a little worried in buying it.
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Which country do you live in and does the Mi5S support LTE there? Here in the US, no LTE at all.
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I plan to stay in China for a while. But personally what do you think about this ? I don't like the design of the plus varient
DR_ASHK said:
i have the same question right now...
the only thing that make me hesitating about Xiaomi
is:
1- its not fully supporting all LTE frequency in France as Oneplus 3
2- it based on marshmallow 6.0 while Oneplus 3 on 6.0.1
while for Xiaomi
1- newer processor 821 vs 820
2- faster charge
3- bigger storage 128 vs 64
4- 2 cameras of 13mb vs one 16mb
5- bigger battery 3800 vs 3000
for price, it does not make that difference 2500 CNY vs 2600 CNY in china (375 $ vs 390 $)... 15$ !!!!!!
for warranty, in Europe, we don't have official dialer for both of them
for support, both of them supported by XDA
for both of them, as i live in Europe, i have to buy it through internet dealer
but this is not a problem for you since you are already in China
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OMG borther!!!
Same thinking, but I actually think the fast charging on op3 is alot better and the fingerprint reader seems to be faster then 5s plus. Also the design the main thing that is making me think the decision of buying plus. I really love op3 but this storage is really making me think. As 5s plus is almost the same price for double the storage with better performance and camera. I hoped that they would make the 5s plus also look a little better in term of design.
You know I have Mi5s plus and I don't observe any lags in finger scanning. Also it is located in Perfect place. I had S7edge and Home Button sometimes got me frustrated. And about LTE800- yes it is a bit confusing to go outside of big cities and have only UMTS speed. But for me is not a very big issue because I dont transfer huge files over mobile data. The big problem is OTG support - it is not supporting external hdd drives and even ssd disks. I used sucessfully only pendrive with 64gb- this is the thing which gives Mi5s plus a big minus. Rest are Perfect.
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Anyone here going for the OnePlus 6?
If it supported Verizon...I would no doubt. But, no such luck this time around either.
No! Going to keep my badboy Pixel XL 2!!
Hell no! I've got enough data mining in my life already! ?
Battery 3300 is very bad for a 6.28 inch screen.
Knowing the release of op 6, I bought pixel 2 xl very recently (slightly higher price paid than avengers edition of op6). OP camera software often so bad that we end up waiting and using gcam mods.
Camera, Battery life and display are better in pixel 2 xl.
Oneplus forum is a war zone no courtesy shown by many. Ofcourse we could use xda for it though.
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Battery 3300 is very bad for a 6.28 inch screen.
Knowing the release of op 6, I bought pixel 2 xl very recently (slightly higher price paid than avengers edition of op6). OP camera software often so bad that we end up waiting and using gcam mods.
Camera, Battery life and display are better in pixel 2 xl.
Oneplus forum is a war zone no courtesy shown by many. Ofcourse we could use xda for it though.
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3300 is fine and will actually yield great battery life because
1. The screen is still 1080p
2. SD 845 will be more efficient
I'm most likely getting one, but definitely keeping my 2 XL. The camera, as well as my current setup (Stock+Root+Flash Kernel+Xposed w/ GravityBox) is absolutely perfect for me.
Not to mention the amazing camera on the 2 XL! I'm sure the 6's camera will be great, but I doubt it will beat the 2 XL.
So all-in-all, I'll have both! If the camera performs at least close to the 2 XL, and when development picks up, then I'd probably consider selling my 2 XL down the road and using the 6 as my daily driver - at least until the Pixel 3 comes out lol
NO!
No. OnePlus is an awful company.
No, im not going back to oneplus .
From my personal experience: anyone coming from a OP to a Pixel will not buy another OP.
Yes, it has great specs, but try to profile the GPU and trace the dropped frames on every single screen and then compare to a Pixel. Having the latest SOC and a 20MP+16MP camera. 8GB of Ram... all that means little when their software is an absolute mess and has basically 0 polish.
This might be an odd sentence but here's the bottom line:
You're paying 550€ for a phone that has the specs of a 850€ phone but getting the performance of a 550€ phone. That's why it doesn't cost 850€: you're not getting the same experience you get on a Pixel and it's not even remotely close.
Question is why would i?
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3300 is fine and will actually yield great battery life because
1. The screen is still 1080p
2. SD 845 will be more efficient
I'm most likely getting one, but definitely keeping my 2 XL. The camera, as well as my current setup (Stock+Root+Flash Kernel+Xposed w/ GravityBox) is absolutely perfect for me.
Not to mention the amazing camera on the 2 XL! I'm sure the 6's camera will be great, but I doubt it will beat the 2 XL.
So all-in-all, I'll have both! If the camera performs at least close to the 2 XL, and when development picks up, then I'd probably consider selling my 2 XL down the road and using the 6 as my daily driver - at least until the Pixel 3 comes out lol
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Nice.
I was the owner of OP 5T before as daily driver.
I was very less options left at that time coming from iphone to android. I have more restrictions, I needed phone with work profile (so rooting has to be given up). I badly needed a dual aim for daily driver. S8+ fingerprint placement I hated. So chose OP5T. Camera software was very bad the default one. Tired of exploring multiple gcam modes etc... The famous oil painting effect on pics has not been resolved for months on 5T when I owned.
My current set up is S9+ as daily driver (work phone) just because of dual sim support. Keeping pixel 2 XL as secondary one (most of my personal use occasional work email check) Neither Pixel nor iphone can become my primary until dual sim versions released though with my restrictions.
srikanth.k39 said:
Nice.
I was the owner of OP 5T before as daily driver.
I was very less options left at that time coming from iphone to android. I have more restrictions, I needed phone with work profile (so rooting has to be given up). I badly needed a dual aim for daily driver. S8+ fingerprint placement I hated. So chose OP5T. Camera software was very bad the default one. Tired of exploring multiple gcam modes etc... The famous oil painting effect on pics has not been resolved for months on 5T when I owned.
My current set up is S9+ as daily driver (work phone) just because of dual sim support. Keeping pixel 2 XL as secondary one (most of my personal use occasional work email check) Neither Pixel nor iphone can become my primary until dual sim versions released though with my restrictions.
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Yeah I didn't like my 5T when I had it. Sold it very quickly. My 5 on the other hand was strangely better, even though it came before the 5T.
I also was not happy about the camera issues like you mentioned + the vibration motor felt very cheap.
I like how much custom development is available for those devices, which is a big reason why I'm most likely going to buy it and just switch between my 2 XL and that whenever I feel like it.
I've never had Samsungs though but if it's treating you well, why not continue using it
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Yes, it has great specs, but try to profile the GPU and trace the dropped frames on every single screen and then compare to a Pixel. Having the latest SOC and a 20MP+16MP camera. 8GB of Ram... all that means little when their software is an absolute mess and has basically 0 polish.
You're paying 550€ for a phone that has the specs of a 850€ phone but getting the performance of a 550€ phone. That's why it doesn't cost 850€: you're not getting the same experience you get on a Pixel and it's not even remotely close.
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I said this on a portal discussion regarding the release of the 5T, and it bears repeating here. For a company with "Never Settle" as its slogan, OnePlus does an awful lot of "settling", i.e. compromising, on the most important part [the display] of a smartphone. The display was why the OP5T never factored into my buying choices. The OP6 isn't any better, as it's still not quad HD like on flagship devices. So for yet another year OnePlus will simply be a pretender to the throne.
If OnePlus really wants to play with the big boys, they need to stop compromising and go all out. Make a product that will truly knock people's socks off.
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Yeah I didn't like my 5T when I had it. Sold it very quickly. My 5 on the other hand was strangely better, even though it came before the 5T.
I also was not happy about the camera issues like you mentioned + the vibration motor felt very cheap.
I like how much custom development is available for those devices, which is a big reason why I'm most likely going to buy it and just switch between my 2 XL and that whenever I feel like it.
I've never had Samsungs though but if it's treating you well, why not continue using it
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Due to no dual sim support, I had to live with samsung. S9+ has better camera, beauty and display though battery life is worse compare to pixel 2 xl even with full hd+ we all know it is due to bloatware services/apps.
Heard rumours that Apple is also considering dual sim versions for next iPhone, hope google do consider dual sim versions.
By the way I did try huawei honor v10 and 20 pro. Unfortunately work profile issues and bad support made me avoid them completely.
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No. OnePlus is an awful company.
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and liars. I got OP5 and returned, because camera was terrible, but they talked about "clearer photos". They lied in performance test.....for me they bad reputation company
FrankBullitt said:
From my personal experience: anyone coming from a OP to a Pixel will not buy another OP.
Yes, it has great specs, but try to profile the GPU and trace the dropped frames on every single screen and then compare to a Pixel. Having the latest SOC and a 20MP+16MP camera. 8GB of Ram... all that means little when their software is an absolute mess and has basically 0 polish.
This might be an odd sentence but here's the bottom line:
You're paying 550€ for a phone that has the specs of a 850€ phone but getting the performance of a 550€ phone. That's why it doesn't cost 850€: you're not getting the same experience you get on a Pixel and it's not even remotely close.
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Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I said this on a portal discussion regarding the release of the 5T, and it bears repeating here. For a company with "Never Settle" as its slogan, OnePlus does an awful lot of "settling", i.e. compromising, on the most important part [the display] of a smartphone. The display was why the OP5T never factored into my buying choices. The OP6 isn't any better, as it's still not quad HD like on flagship devices. So for yet another year OnePlus will simply be a pretender to the throne.
If OnePlus really wants to play with the big boys, they need to stop compromising and go all out. Make a product that will truly knock people's socks off.
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Frank: The OnePlus 5T was the fastest phone on the market until the S9+ came out and gave it a run for its money. Then the 6 came out and it is now the fastest/best performing device on the market. And OxygenOS is amazing, clean, and adds useful features (like face unlock that's actually good). Plus OnePlus added in over 200 optimizations to make it even better. Look it up. There are tons of videos to prove it's faster and smoother. Your comment has no grounds.
Strephon: How can you say anything about the display of a phone when defending the Pixel 2 XL? It literally had a huge scandal, and still isn't fixed. The normal resolution gives it an edge in battery life, and overall performance. The 27" monitor I'm typing this on is 1080p and at 2 feet away is no issue. You're telling me a 6 inch phone with that resolution is a problem? Plus the Amoled OnePlus uses is much better quality compared to the Pixel's lackluster LG panel. I guess I shouldn't expect anything less from the Pixel forum, but come on, lose the blinders, people.
Had 3 devices from OP so far (OPO, OP5 and OP5T) and still use them but not going to get another one anymore. Why? Because Pixel devices is what suits me the best... top hardware with top software.
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Strephon: How can you say anything about the display of a phone when defending the Pixel 2 XL? It literally had a huge scandal, and still isn't fixed. The normal resolution gives it an edge in battery life, and overall performance. The 27" monitor I'm typing this on is 1080p and at 2 feet away is no issue. You're telling me a 6 inch phone with that resolution is a problem? Plus the Amoled OnePlus uses is much better quality compared to the Pixel's lackluster LG panel. I guess I shouldn't expect anything less from the Pixel forum, but come on, lose the blinders, people.
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The quoted post above is sponsored by OnePlus, where "Never Settle" is an oxymoron.
You mentioned us P2XL owners having blinders on when nothing could be further from the truth. While we may have unwanted press over non-issues such as blue shifting and color profiles, at least our devices were assembled with the screens pointed in the right direction, unlike the OP5T.
Ignoring the fact that people rarely view their devices at the extreme angles required for the blue shift to be noticeable, the phenomenon is inherent in ALL AMOLED displays. My Galaxy S4 has it. My Nexus 6 has it. My P2XL has it. Of the three the S4, having an early AMOLED screen, has blue shift to a greater degree than either my Nexus 6 or my P2XL.
The only reason blue shift and the color profile were even mentioned is to drive page views. As for the color profile non-issue, I use the original color profile and not the boosted or saturated modes. No problems here, and in fact I enjoy the color accuracy.
OnePlus having a FHD screen is not a problem if you're not used to anything else. But a flagship device has a QHD display, period. What OnePlus has done here is what they have always done: compromise. When they stop, perhaps then we'll take notice.
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Frank: The OnePlus 5T was the fastest phone on the market until the S9+ came out and gave it a run for its money. Then the 6 came out and it is now the fastest/best performing device on the market. And OxygenOS is amazing, clean, and adds useful features (like face unlock that's actually good). Plus OnePlus added in over 200 optimizations to make it even better. Look it up. There are tons of videos to prove it's faster and smoother. Your comment has no grounds.
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Yes, my comments have no ground.
https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/co...soon_discontinuing_development_i_wont/dyi9wh0
It's not just the camera; everything on the Pixel 2 is way, way more polished than anything that OnePlus (and I on my own) could ever make.
As much as I hate to admit it, my custom ROMs can't touch the stock ROM on the Pixel 2 in terms of polish and performance. Lately I've been doing more scientific performance assessments on Android (for the sake of research with a professor at my university), instead of just using the phone and thinking, "Seems good to me!," and the results I pulled off the Pixel 2 absolutely crush the results I pulled from stock LineageOS 15.1 on the 3T. It is very difficult to get frame drops while playing with the Pixel 2, whereas I instantly recorded frame drops galore on the 3T. This has been a bit of a wakeup call to me in that I need to reevaluate my ideology and follow a more scientific strategy in optimizing Android on a phone (i.e., using the dozens of test suites Google has built for Android). The bugs that bother users the most are the ones that tend to happen a small percentage of the time (like random reboots), and the Pixel 2 has clearly been optimized to the point where most of those rare bugs are nonexistent (e.g., frames are rarely dropped).
When I ran one of Google's UI performance test apps on the Pixel 2 against my LineageOS 14.1 ROM on the 3T, my ROM dropped frames nonstop (according to this tool) while the Pixel 2 dropped zero frames...
Deep down, I'm a kernel developer and that's where I excel. I'd rather stick to what I know (and enjoy) with kernel hacking and leave the pain of polishing userspace to Google's army of engineers.
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You were saying something about oneplus, weren't you?
I owned oneplus phones, I owned Nexus, I own a Pixel2XL. Tell me about daily performance again, please.
This phone is a massive 90° turn for google as much on the software side than the hardware.
SO let me know:
1- Are you excited for the GP6 Pro?
2- Do you plan on buying it?
3- What the feature, following the leaks and the I/O that you anticipate the most?
For me :
1- YESSSSSS!!!!!!! (see the title)
2- I'd love to, I'll wait though. I want to see the firsts feedbacks before buying one.
3- To me, the whitechapel SoC really picked my interest a lot. It will either be a deception or a big nice surprise, don't disappoint me Google!
Yes, sort of.
Maybe. I have the Pixel 5: a meh phone, with useless VZ 5G so I turned it off. The only things I'm happy with are battery life, weight/portability, and that I didn't upgrade my plan to a 5G plan.
New in-house chip. I'm not holding my breath on "new and improved" because Google tends to let everyone down prior to announcement, so I'm expecting the same here.
Edit: To be fair, I flipped flopped on buying the Samsung Galaxy 21 Ultra for the camera. What keeps me with Pixel is their call screening. There's been so many of them, the call screening is the best.
I'm buying it the second it's ready!
I'm not excited bcz it has the same 8mp periscope that Vivo, Realme or ZTE etc are using
SidRose01 said:
I'm not excited bcz it has the same 8mp periscope that Vivo, Realme or ZTE etc are using
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Lol and that shows some ignorance. Those other phones don't use Google's software processing for photos. And that's a HUGE deal.
Bwyan Benton said:
Lol and that shows some ignorance. Those other phones don't use Google's software processing for photos. And that's a HUGE deal.
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We can atleast have GCam on other 8mp periscopic phones to get a similar output like GP6 pro. Hence wanted Google to have its in-house sensor or atleast get one from other sensor makers specifically for GP6 pro. PS: those other phone can atleast have GCam and I didn't ignore this.
I'm gonna buy it as soon as I can. I am still running my Pixel 2XL.
1- Yes, finally the Pixel phone we were waiting for.... Hopefully
2- Day One
3- Combination of the Whitechapel SOC and Camera setup. Still not the same amount as the 21 Ultra, one thing Google knows is how to get the best out of hardware they go with. We are talking about the potential capability of iPhone structure but with more modern tech throughout the phone.
I'm very excited as I am for most Pixel releases. I am buying the second it becomes available. I'm afraid if I wait, with the chip shortage, I might miss out if I don't act fast. I am really excited about the new chip and, hopefully, tight integration between software and hardware. I am also really excited for the triple camera setup. Between the nearly 1" sensor, higher resolution and Googles image processing software I am fully expecting them to retake the photo crown back from Apple.
I would like to see eSIM availability on day one. One National carrier, and eSIM for spare carrier/international travel. I sold my Samsung S21+ Unlocked because I couldn’t activate an eSIM!
I have currently a Oneplus 8 Pro. Camera is very average, with Android 11 they moved further away from stock Android, Updates come very slow now that there are newer Oneplus devices (had november security patch until mid february, then we got january patch instead of february...)...
I am so excited for Pixel 6 Pro, as this phone is finally a pixel phone that seems to make no compromises:
Tripple cam
Big Battery
120 hz
Great performance chip (not a hardcote gamer, so must not be top notch for me)
New camera senors...!
I think Pixel 6 Pro will crush it this year.. looks like a S21 Ultra with clean Android.. !! Nice!
But i guess the price tag will be huge, around S21 Ultra launch price (maybe just a little less)
I'm not excited. Mainly because ever since I bought the Pixel 1 and loved it, and used it until a year ago when I got a 512 GB Samsung, I was anticipating getting a 256 GB Pixel as my next upgrade once one was available. I waited four years and now, though, I wouldn't upgrade to another Pixel unless it had 512 GB of internal storage (or have a Micro SD slot, which won't happen with the Pixel). I like my music local and in FLAC, and have my entire library with me. I'm happy that they've finally decided to have 256 GB of storage as an option, but that just won't cut it for me anymore.
I'm extremely apprehensive about this, on one hand it's possibly the flagship Pixel that we've always wanted. On the other hand, it's running a custom chipset that's based on exynos. What does that mean for root access? It seems like exynos chips are always running behind on getting rooted and are generally less efficient than their Snapdragon counterparts. That's complicated by the fact that it's basically a bespoke chip now just for pixel phones.
We'll see, I'm currently holding on with my OnePlus 6t, but OP is dead to me going forward. I was planning on definitely switching to Pixel, but now I'm waiting to see how much access the dev community has to the device
BittahWarlock said:
I'm extremely apprehensive about this, on one hand it's possibly the flagship Pixel that we've always wanted. On the other hand, it's running a custom chipset that's based on exynos. What does that mean for root access? It seems like exynos chips are always running behind on getting rooted and are generally less efficient than their Snapdragon counterparts. That's complicated by the fact that it's basically a bespoke chip now just for pixel phones.
We'll see, I'm currently holding on with my OnePlus 6t, but OP is dead to me going forward. I was planning on definitely switching to Pixel, but now I'm waiting to see how much access the dev community has to the device
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Yes, Oneplus is really not what it once was anymore.
For Exynos Chipset: the exynos Chipset in the S21 Series is great. It is about on the same level than the Snapdragon. Some people even claim it has better battery life and doesnt heat up as much than the Snapdragon version.
Since the Pixel 6 Chip seems to be based on this Exynos Chip with some minor changes, i am sure it will be great!!
It is the first Exynos phone i would buy.
The difference between exynos and snapdragon s21 is not noticable anymore. I m pretty sure that performance and battery will be great.
Mtha86 said:
Yes, Oneplus is really not what it once was anymore.
For Exynos Chipset: the exynos Chipset in the S21 Series is great. It is about on the same level than the Snapdragon. Some people even claim it has better battery life and doesnt heat up as much than the Snapdragon version.
Since the Pixel 6 Chip seems to be based on this Exynos Chip with some minor changes, i am sure it will be great!!
It is the first Exynos phone i would buy.
The difference between exynos and snapdragon s21 is not noticable anymore. I m pretty sure that performance and battery will be great.
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True, while the gap is closing, there is still a gap. That's really not my main holdup, it's getting root without losing too many features.
Google has been tightening the reins on Android for years. Hopefully we will get full root access without many sacrifices, just need to wait and see
The last google phone I purchased was the Nexus 4 at release, then later I got a Nexus 9. The Pixel series has never interested me, especially design wise. If the P6P's renders are accurate it'll be my 1st google device in years.
I've been running Samsung devices the past few years because no Pixel hardware has really impressed me since the 2XL. The software has been great but hardware has been lacking. I desperately want to get back on the Pixel bandwagon and if all these leaks turn out to be accurate this will finally be the phone that does it! I'll be trading in my Note Ultra 20 on it. Wish we didn't have to wait til late September or October.
Yep...I am. I hope the Pro version has a flat screen instead of a curved screen though.
Raiz said:
This phone is a massive 90° turn for google as much on the software side than the hardware.
SO let me know:
1- Are you excited for the GP6 Pro?
2- Do you plan on buying it?
3- What the feature, following the leaks and the I/O that you anticipate the most?
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1. I'm stoked. Haven't been this excited for a Google device since the Galaxy Nexus w/Ice Cream Sandwich, though the Nexus 5 leak accompanied by KitKat ranks up there.
2. I plan on F5'ing the Google Store repeatedly as soon as the presentation starts, so yeah.
3. Whitechapel and, Material You (biggest software overhaul since 4.4). Also it seems like Google gives a darn about hardware now.
wolfeyes30 said:
Yep...I am. I hope the Pro version has a flat screen instead of a curved screen.
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With u on this