As the title says, im considering either of these, reason for 1st gent moto g is because i do not want a tablet phablet or a television in my pocket, which is also the reason im considering the S4 mini
Im located in denmark, i have no issues with installing customs ROMs, so touchjizz is of no issue here.
The S4 mini is about 100-200DKK more than the moto G, (20-30EU, if even that much)
Reasons I have for choosing the S4 are the following:
AMOLED display
Smaller dimensions
1.5GB ram
IR Blaster
NFC
And for the Moto G:
Water resistance
Slightly better PPI
Better brightness outdoors
Better ROM support (slightly)
Quad Core CPU (But lets be honest here, the 1.2GHz Quad core in the moto G is hardly any better than the Dual core 1.7 Krait in the S4 mini)
Not made of slipperly glossy fall out of hands material
So as you can see.. im just torn here, Im not even sure how much better the S4 mini performs with a custom rom compared to the ultra bloated touchjizz
Obviously i looked for reviews of them against each other, but every time they test both of them stock, and the S4 is severaly gimped by touchjizz i assume.
Halp!
I've just received my S4 Mini yesterday and I'm very happy with it so far. I think the S4 Mini if I remember right from reviews and in specs has a slightly better camera if that makes a difference to you . but the Moto G seems like a good phone.
I have yet to root or install a custom ROM due to warranty concerns for the short time being but I don't see match problems with the touchwiz interface so far. So when I do finally root and maybe install a custom ROM without the bloat which some of can be disabled on stock would run very smoothly indeed.
What GPU does the Moto G have?
Moto G 4G makes more sense. Yes I agree that moto falls behind s4 mini in RAW performance. But an optimised stock android UI yields better experience than buggy touchwiz.
Also Moto G 4G will get official android "M" from Moto. S4 Mini may/NOT get official Lollipop. Forget about "M".
I am not familiar with moto but s4 mini has superman devs live arco68 and F4k. So we do have solid custom rom base.
But being a 2013 device s4 mini becomes obselete more quickly.
Even I am having thoughts about new phone. My s4 mini worked splendidly over last 12 months, but recent "drops" resulted in heavy battery drain[hardware fault :crying:]
But here in India we get mostly dual sim phones which are a hell to work with [custom roms]. If I get galaxy S5 G900F for cheap I may buy that.
Otherwise I will wait and buy Moto G 3rd Gen :laugh:
Stock UI S4 Mini VS Moto G. Moto G wins. Custom ROM not sure...
It has the same GPU as the moto g, Adreno 305 IIRC
@THE rest of the replies; thank you for the replies, Im looking at both phones due to the custom rom support too, I do not care for stock at all (i wouldent run the moto g stock either)
Its too bad the moto G does not have nfc and IR blaster, im pretty sure NFC is going to be really good here in denmark soon.. (all bus/train terminals are going to support it for example)
The camera i guess both of them are fine to me
Its a tough choice.. the moto g is hyped quite a bit..
Oh, i forgot to mention, im on an S3 mini right now, which has pretty much the perfect size for me.
when I choose s4 mini there were many other good phones available. But the main reasons for selecting S4 mini were:
1. This is the lightest (only 108 gms.) and very small form factor android phone with such specs available( even till today also).
2.I did not like Touch wiz much, but as of today there are plenty of custom (specially Lollipop based) roms available for this device. And most of the roms are quite usable as daily drivers.
3.SUPER AMOLED!!! I used IPS LCD phones, but once you use S.AMOLED, i think it will be hard to go back.
4. For me phones should be light,small ( best size: Iphone 4) (i hate 5" bulks) and powerful.
on a side note, moto G is also a very good device.
Yep, I also think itll be hard to not have an AMOLED display, my s3 mini has one (PenTiLe though..)
NFC is going to be important i think
the IR blaster is nice.. but dont care much about it..
Only reason im considering the moto g is..
1: Water resistant
2; Higer PPI display, slightly more sharp screen
Both the s4 mini and moto g has a nice thin bezel (1st gen at least)
Both phones are about the same price, normally id go moto g, but seems the S4 mini has a nice community, which is rare, and not just one person making roms for it.
Anyone have any information on the S4 mini feelings towards rain?
And how much did CM11/Carbon help?
Thanks!
Anyone?
Kind of a deciding factor here haha
Axaion said:
Anyone?
Kind of a deciding factor here haha
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Did not get your question about rains!!!? And to me the best kitkat(4.4.4) Rom for my device (s4 mini duos)is PAC MAN KK. Still using it since last 3-4 months. very good rom.
about rain, i mean does a little rain water, if youre outside and it rains, will it mess it up?, or can it at least handle that?
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about rain, i mean does a little rain water, if youre outside and it rains, will it mess it up?, or can it at least handle that?
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Hahaha!....your question really made me laugh. Well, technically speaking this device is not water proof or water resistant. it has got open ports(like usb/charging, speakers,mic etc.) so if any of the electronics contacts with water........you know the answer. Besides even if we get an water resistant phone, we would never ever get some water on it deliberately. So, if water resistance is important to, you better get a SONY xperia z series( they are being advertised as mil-spec type water resistant upto a meter or so).
Moto g less ram is a killer if you're a heavy multitasker
Another option is s4 mini plus LTE. Model number is I9195I
It has 1.5gb ram and 64-bit sd 410 chipset. Problem is samsung
launched that "plus" version without much publicity or fanfare.
So not a lot of people know about its existence. So not much development
with that device. However it should give solid experience as
1.5gb ram + sd410 is much better than sd400 with 1gb ram.
Yeah, im getting the 4G version, not sure if the lotterly will give me the sd400 or 410 version though..
For rom support and community i hope the 400..
for performance 410
sasank360 said:
Another option is s4 mini plus LTE. Model number is I9195I
It has 1.5gb ram and 64-bit sd 410 chipset. Problem is samsung
launched that "plus" version without much publicity or fanfare.
So not a lot of people know about its existence. So not much development
with that device. However it should give solid experience as
1.5gb ram + sd410 is much better than sd400 with 1gb ram.
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yeah, would be nice if there was roms for the 9195I since it seems to be overall better.
Sadly im not willing to drop rom support for a 10% better phone though, even when it does have nice battery life (I need my xposed, and non-touchwiz UI, haha)
So ive narrowed down where to buy it, just a few quick questions before i pull the trigger.
Does NFC work with CM and Carbon? both Kitkat and Lollipop.
Same question for the IR Blaster and 4G
Would kinda suck to buy the phone based on those two and the 1.5GB ram and seeing that two of them dont work if they didnt
Im from denmark so i assume its the international version.
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Dear fellow forum users,
I'm currently evaluating a new Android phone. I'm pondering between the Optimus G Pro and waiting for the G2.
What are your experiences and your level of satisfaction with this phone running LG stock Android? And how active do you think is the community regarding custom ROMs? (I prefer as close to Nexus-like Android as possible).
Thanks for your feedback.
Go For G Pro
WayneGretzky said:
Dear fellow forum users,
I'm currently evaluating a new Android phone. I'm pondering between the Optimus G Pro and waiting for the G2.
What are your experiences and your level of satisfaction with this phone running LG stock Android? And how active do you think is the community regarding custom ROMs? (I prefer as close to Nexus-like Android as possible).
Thanks for your feedback.
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HI Buddy,
G2 has a better camera & slightly better viewing angle. The jelly bean 4.2.2 which is ported on G2 will soon be out in market as soon as G2 start retailing. then you can port that rom to GPRO. Our wonderful Devs are already waitng for that.
Now everything is almost same (Snapdragon 800 & 600 doesnt differ in real life scenario, user experience is almost same).
GPRO is cheaper & has a big screen, Now if you dont want to pay extra only for a OIS camera then go checkout with GPRO.
Have a nice day !!!!
Luckyboy
luckyboy_delhi said:
HI Buddy,
G2 has a better camera & slightly better viewing angle. The jelly bean 4.2.2 which is ported on G2 will soon be out in market as soon as G2 start retailing. then you can port that rom to GPRO. Our wonderful Devs are already waitng for that.
Now everything is almost same (Snapdragon 800 & 600 doesnt differ in real life scenario, user experience is almost same).
GPRO is cheaper & has a big screen, Now if you dont want to pay extra only for a OIS camera then go checkout with GPRO.
Have a nice day !!!!
Luckyboy
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Is OIS really that effective in normal camera shoots?
Does it make significant difference?
I'm thinkimg, should I or shouldI not go for G2 from my G Pro just for the OIS in G2?
kelvintisw said:
Is OIS really that effective in normal camera shoots?
Does it make significant difference?
I'm thinkimg, should I or shouldI not go for G2 from my G Pro just for the OIS in G2?
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Hi Kelvin,
OIS plays a significant role when you are taking a picture of moving object & reduces the blurr. It also depends of the capabilities of the Photographer.
Now it depends how often you use this feature(or how much it matters to you). for example: if you shoot pictures while you drive or during a footbal match. it will be a handy feature. Now it depends what you are going to do with your pics at the end of the day just sharing on social media,
From my personal point of view this feature doesnt matter a lot on a phone. because whenever i am on a vacation or travel i usualy prefer to take my Digital Camera with me.
Just note down your requirement & compare. This will be helpful to decide.
luckyboy_delhi said:
Hi Kelvin,
OIS plays a significant role when you are taking a picture of moving object & reduces the blurr. It also depends of the capabilities of the Photographer.
Now it depends how often you use this feature(or how much it matters to you). for example: if you shoot pictures while you drive or during a footbal match. it will be a handy feature. Now it depends what you are going to do with your pics at the end of the day just sharing on social media,
From my personal point of view this feature doesnt matter a lot on a phone. because whenever i am on a vacation or travel i usualy prefer to take my Digital Camera with me.
Just note down your requirement & compare. This will be helpful to decide.
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Got it!
That's good advice! :good:
Thanks, buddy!
Confused!!
For the life of me, I could not decide between the G2 and the G Pro. I initially wanted the G Pro for the big screen, but then because the specs of the G2 are more 'future proof', I went with that.
In the back of my mind, I still want the G Pro, and still have time to swap my G2 for it. Do you think the G Pro (Snapdragon 600) power will last 3 years and not cause lag/stutter? Do you think app developers can even keep up with this constant hardware update? Snapdragon 600 should still be powerful enough for years to come, no? Reason being, I'm not the type to buy a phone every year, and I like to keep mine for at least 3 years.
Thanks!
Armydeuno said:
For the life of me, I could not decide between the G2 and the G Pro. I initially wanted the G Pro for the big screen, but then because the specs of the G2 are more 'future proof', I went with that.
In the back of my mind, I still want the G Pro, and still have time to swap my G2 for it. Do you think the G Pro (Snapdragon 600) power will last 3 years and not cause lag/stutter? Do you think app developers can even keep up with this constant hardware update? Snapdragon 600 should still be powerful enough for years to come, no? Reason being, I'm not the type to buy a phone every year, and I like to keep mine for at least 3 years.
Thanks!
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The direction Android is headed is toward better optimization. KitKat makes even old phones seem fast. I have KitKat running on my old Galaxy S3 with only 1GB of RAM and a slower Exynos processor, and it flies. Zero lag.
Three years from now, the LG OG Pro will still be a great phone, and it will probably still be running 4.1.2 officially, sad to say, but you aren't limited to stock ROMs, thankfully.
donalgodon said:
The direction Android is headed is toward better optimization. KitKat makes even old phones seem fast. I have KitKat running on my old Galaxy S3 with only 1GB of RAM and a slower Exynos processor, and it flies. Zero lag.
Three years from now, the LG OG Pro will still be a great phone, and it will probably still be running 4.1.2 officially, sad to say, but you aren't limited to stock ROMs, thankfully.
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Thanks for the response!
So, so you think Kit Kat will come to the Optimus G Pro? It is still fairly new. If not, would there be an unofficial Kit Kat release for it? If so, would it be stable enough?
Thanks!
Armydeuno said:
For the life of me, I could not decide between the G2 and the G Pro. I initially wanted the G Pro for the big screen, but then because the specs of the G2 are more 'future proof', I went with that.
In the back of my mind, I still want the G Pro, and still have time to swap my G2 for it. Do you think the G Pro (Snapdragon 600) power will last 3 years and not cause lag/stutter? Do you think app developers can even keep up with this constant hardware update? Snapdragon 600 should still be powerful enough for years to come, no? Reason being, I'm not the type to buy a phone every year, and I like to keep mine for at least 3 years.
Thanks!
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I don't understand your confusion, to me the choice is extremely simple:
1. Does the phone have enough storage?
To me even 32GB (maximum available for G2) is very limiting cause I take videos a lot and keep a lot of music on my device. Optimus G Pro has a SD card slot. Also, meenova or similar is not an option to me because I keep my phones in my pockets and something protruding from the USB socket will surely destroy that socket very soon.
2. Does the phone have a replaceable battery?
I am a very heavy user and current phones really don't stand a chance in terms of battery lifespan, current batteries have a service life which is not sufficient to me (I already killed and replaced one battery on my Galaxy Note within a year due to normal wear). Replacing a battery at a service center for an undisclosed amount of money (usually more than 50 EUR) is absolutely unacceptable to me when I could buy a battery off-the-shelf for 15 EUR and replace it myself in phones with user-replaceable batteries.
3. Is the phone too big to handle and carry?
Since I moved from a SE Xperia Arc S to a Galaxy Note I found out that to me the bigger screen size is a lot more important than the ability to handle the phone with one hand.
The performance margin between the two would be marginal in most scenarios (even to me as a heavy user) and the possible future updates are almost a non-issue because manufacturers tend to stop software support for their phones before the next meaningful Android upgrade has emerged (most Android version upgrades are too incremental to me to make or break the deal, at least since 4.1).
they both great you wont be disappointed
camper the specs and decide
i choose GPro cos:
cost even for 32GB
5.5"
sdcard / battery is replaceable and good
very good performance for my usage I'm not a gamer
great experience from stock [ no lags and GUI is cool ]
easier to hold then note 2 or 3
disadvantages:
camera in low light
lg support no KK?
IMO build is OK but protection needed and recommended
Am I happy with my G Pro? yeah, so happy with it......
so far so great.....
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Am I happy with my G Pro? yeah, so happy with it......
so far so great, and nothing to complain.....
I say go for the g pro. Ive been through 6 phones in less than 2 months and g pro is my fav. I had Xperia Ion, Samsung gs2, Atrix 4g, HTC One, Oppo Find 5 and Nexus 4. Obviously N4 and HTC One had the most devs but g pro is still fairly new and it has so much screen real estate. Im pretty sure once someone gets their hands on that g2 os we will have a port. Things are moving on this thread, slowly, but we are getting there. Out of all my phones i still think g pro is the best.
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Hey everyone,
After three years using the legendary Xperia X10, it's finally given out on me and died. Is this a good upgrade over that? Where I live, it is possible to get the LG G2 and the HTC One M7 for around the same price, but I have my reservations about buying them because they're old models.
Should I get this phone, or go for something else?
inadequate said:
Hey everyone,
After three years using the legendary Xperia X10, it's finally given out on me and died. Is this a good upgrade over that? Where I live, it is possible to get the LG G2 and the HTC One M7 for around the same price, but I have my reservations about buying them because they're old models.
Should I get this phone, or go for something else?
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N3 Neo is definitely a big upgrade over Xperia X10 in all respects!
Now coming to ur point regarding the other two phones u mentioned.. I think among the 3 u should choose between N3 Neo & G2, now it depends on ur preferences which phone u do choose, both phones have their own advantages-
G2 over Neo:
- 1080p screen
- More powerful GPU if ure a hardcore gamer
- Handy size
- IPS display
- Great dev support
Neo over G2:
- Bigger screen if u like the extra real estate
- Note features & S-Pen
- No overheating issues
- Samsung has much better service support
- Better battery life
- Super Amoled screen
- Expandable storage & removable battery
Ure from Trivandrum so I don't think both the phones have nearly the same cost.. in fact G2 is much costlier!
Flipkart prices - 27.5K for Note 3 Neo & G2 (32gb) for 36K
buy wisely!
I never like phone with sealed battery (Though I am having iPhone, which was a wish to have always).
peRFect! said:
N3 Neo is definitely a big upgrade over Xperia X10 in all respects!
Now coming to ur point regarding the other two phones u mentioned.. I think among the 3 u should choose between N3 Neo & G2, now it depends on ur preferences which phone u do choose, both phones have their own advantages-
G2 over Neo:
- 1080p screen
- More powerful GPU if ure a hardcore gamer
- Handy size
- IPS display
- Great dev support
Neo over G2:
- Bigger screen if u like the extra real estate
- Note features & S-Pen
- No overheating issues
- Samsung has much better service support
- Better battery life
- Super Amoled screen
- Expandable storage & removable battery
Ure from Trivandrum so I don't think both the phones have nearly the same cost.. in fact G2 is much costlier!
Flipkart prices - 27.5K for Note 3 Neo & G2 (32gb) for 36K
buy wisely!
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Thanks man. Actually, the prices of both phones are nearly the same, if you know dealers. The main problem with the Note 3 Neo seems to be the lack of developer support. Coming from the X10 (which had a HUGE developer base), the support on this forum seems to be lacking.
Is there a 4.4 update for the Neo?
inadequate said:
Thanks man. Actually, the prices of both phones are nearly the same, if you know dealers. The main problem with the Note 3 Neo seems to be the lack of developer support. Coming from the X10 (which had a HUGE developer base), the support on this forum seems to be lacking.
Is there a 4.4 update for the Neo?
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Yeah.. local dealers may give u better deals.
If ure a flashaholic then this phone is not for u (atleast for now).
I used to be a flashaholic having the S2 which still has excellent dev support, but since I've bought this phone, my desire to root & modify have vanished.. the phone has exceptional battery life, smooth performance & a lot of neat features which I love. I don't plan to use aosp & cm roms cos this phone is a note & the S-Pen defines it!
Nowadays we get most of the new cool features through Xposed so no point about stock based custom roms.. but yeah it's about personal preference!
The KitKat update is due and we have still not recd it (u know sammy is slow with updates).. we'll get it shortly I guess..
inadequate said:
Thanks man. Actually, the prices of both phones are nearly the same, if you know dealers. The main problem with the Note 3 Neo seems to be the lack of developer support. Coming from the X10 (which had a HUGE developer base), the support on this forum seems to be lacking.
Is there a 4.4 update for the Neo?
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Kitkat update is only avaialbe for korean variant of Note 3 neo at the moment . Rest should be updated I think .
If dev support is what you're looking for , DO NOT buy an exynos phone and esp. this one as it's not quite popular like the rest
peRFect! said:
Yeah.. local dealers may give u better deals.
If ure a flashaholic then this phone is not for u (atleast for now).
I used to be a flashaholic having the S2 which still has excellent dev support, but since I've bought this phone, my desire to root & modify have vanished.. the phone has exceptional battery life, smooth performance & a lot of neat features which I love. I don't plan to use aosp & cm roms cos this phone is a note & the S-Pen defines it!
Nowadays we get most of the new cool features through Xposed so no point about stock based custom roms.. but yeah it's about personal preference!
The KitKat update is due and we have still not recd it (u know sammy is slow with updates).. we'll get it shortly I guess..
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What do you mean by this Xposed? What is it exactly? And as for flashing and developer support, I'm not too keen on those. The only reason I turned to the forums was because my old X10 had started to lag. I suppose the only reason I'll need to root this phone would be to remove some of the trashy apps made by Samsung that nobody uses, like S Voice and the like.
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What do you mean by this Xposed? What is it exactly? And as for flashing and developer support, I'm not too keen on those. The only reason I turned to the forums was because my old X10 had started to lag. I suppose the only reason I'll need to root this phone would be to remove some of the trashy apps made by Samsung that nobody uses, like S Voice and the like.
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Yes I know, the amount of bloat Samsung dumps into the phone is painful, but u can disable most of it & completely remove it after rooting so that's the good part.
okay, now about Xposed, search for "Xposed framework" on google & visit addictivetips site which explains everything about Xposed. It's one of the greatest android root apps.
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Yes I know, the amount of bloat Samsung dumps into the phone is painful, but u can disable most of it & completely remove it after rooting so that's the good part.
okay, now about Xposed, search for "Xposed framework" on google & visit addictivetips site which explains everything about Xposed. It's one of the greatest android root apps.
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Has anyone managed to root this phone yet? I thought you were having difficulty with that.
inadequate said:
Has anyone managed to root this phone yet? I thought you were having difficulty with that.
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Many many users have. I don't know about the difficulties cos I still haven't rooted my phone, if u have any issues, members are here to help u!
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Many many users have. I don't know about the difficulties cos I still haven't rooted my phone, if u have any issues, members are here to help u!
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Really? There's only one thread about rooting here on these forums, and those guys had problems rooting it. That's why I said so.
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Really? There's only one thread about rooting here on these forums, and those guys had problems rooting it. That's why I said so.
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U can use CF auto root for N750, my neo bro @sgatechwork used it & completely modded his phone after that.
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U can use CF auto root for N750, my neo bro @sgatechwork used it & completely modded his phone after that.
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Regarding the S Pen and it's uses, does this have all the functionality of the bigger Note 3, or have they been stripped down somewhat as well?
inadequate said:
Regarding the S Pen and it's uses, does this have all the functionality of the bigger Note 3, or have they been stripped down somewhat as well?
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you get all the S-Pen features of the bigger brother in the neo, the features that have been stripped down are display (720p), RAM (2gb), processor (well, can't really call it less powerful), some other small things are display profiles, air gestures, camera but nothing as such which is a deal breaker. If u want the full Note 3 software suite experience at a much cheaper price, this phone is the one for u!
peRFect! said:
you get all the S-Pen features of the bigger brother in the neo, the features that have been stripped down are display (720p), RAM (2gb), processor (well, can't really call it less powerful), some other small things are display profiles, air gestures, camera but nothing as such which is a deal breaker. If u want the full Note 3 software suite experience at a much cheaper price, this phone is the one for u!
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Yeah, I know the specs of the model . I wouldn't call the 720p display a letdown. Let's face it, in India, using a 1080p screen is quite hard, especially if you're unemployed and a student. And with this year's iteration of the Note, it'll be even more difficult to use it. Who the hell watches 2K videos anyway? Not to mention, unless the GPU in the next Note is the Adreno 420, it'll be underpowered like the G3. Seriously, manufacturers have gone completely retarded this year.
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Yeah, I know the specs of the model . I wouldn't call the 720p display a letdown. Let's face it, in India, using a 1080p screen is quite hard, especially if you're unemployed and a student. And with this year's iteration of the Note, it'll be even more difficult to use it. Who the hell watches 2K videos anyway? Not to mention, unless the GPU in the next Note is the Adreno 420, it'll be underpowered like the G3. Seriously, manufacturers have gone completely retarded this year.
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That's so true.. TBH I find the display really good (better than S4 in terms of colour reproduction), my previous daily driver was the GS2 which has a 217 ppi screen, so 267 ppi is a major jump!
I don't believe in the crazy spec jump we have with every iteration. I found FHD itself to be a stretch, but 2K is as of now useless.
I'm really happy with my phone, always had a dream to own a Note series device (they were always out of budget, I too am a student).. just a rare stutter is visible but the features completely outweighs that rare moment.
peRFect! said:
That's so true.. TBH I find the display really good (better than S4 in terms of colour reproduction), my previous daily driver was the GS2 which has a 217 ppi screen, so 267 ppi is a major jump!
I don't believe in the crazy spec jump we have with every iteration. I found FHD itself to be a stretch, but 2K is as of now useless.
I'm really happy with my phone, always had a dream to own a Note series device (they were always out of budget, I too am a student).. just a rare stutter is visible but the features completely outweighs that rare moment.
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Even worse is the fact that the manufacturers apparently think that the S400 with cortex A7 cores is somehow better than the dual core Krait or the dual core A15 configuration. It's a big step back in terms of raw processing power. That's the only reason why I thought of this device. All the others have stupid S400 cores, including the HTC One mini 2 and the Galaxy S5 Mini (which are likely to priced above this one).
As for the display, my older phone was the X10, which had around 240ppi. I'm sure the 720p display will be a big boost
inadequate said:
Even worse is the fact that the manufacturers apparently think that the S400 with cortex A7 cores is somehow better than the dual core Krait or the dual core A15 configuration. It's a big step back in terms of raw processing power. That's the only reason why I thought of this device. All the others have stupid S400 cores, including the HTC One mini 2 and the Galaxy S5 Mini (which are likely to priced above this one).
As for the display, my older phone was the X10, which had around 240ppi. I'm sure the 720p display will be a big boost
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The hexa core configuration in this phone is excellent, no overheating (which is common with other exynos phones) and consistent performance. Seriously, I still don't know why the manufacturers don't use Cortex A15 dual cores, they are quite powerful. The minis nowadays are plain stupid, half the customers don't even know how they are being fooled, they just see the "Quad core" monicker and blindly buy much costlier phones. Just look at that phone G Pro lite, I mean seriously, 25K for that thing? ?
720p is fine, text too is quite sharp.
peRFect! said:
The hexa core configuration in this phone is excellent, no overheating (which is common with other exynos phones) and consistent performance. Seriously, I still don't know why the manufacturers don't use Cortex A15 dual cores, they are quite powerful. The minis nowadays are plain stupid, half the customers don't even know how they are being fooled, they just see the "Quad core" monicker and blindly buy much costlier phones. Just look at that phone G Pro lite, I mean seriously, 25K for that thing? ��
720p is fine, text too is quite sharp.
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There's one thing that confuses me. Which model of this phone has the Exynos 5 chip? I'm getting really confused, because I read somewhere that one version of this phone has an S400 junk chip, while the other one has the Exynos 5 Hexa chip.
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There's one thing that confuses me. Which model of this phone has the Exynos 5 chip? I'm getting really confused, because I read somewhere that one version of this phone has an S400 junk chip, while the other one has the Exynos 5 Hexa chip.
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SM-N7502 Dual sim got the "junk" s400 chipset.
SM-N750 and 7505 got the Exynos 5260 hexacore chipset
Hey so been looking around quite a bit at different phones and I think LG G3 appears to be a winner on paper. For phones which I can get for ~free with my AT&T upgrade (which knocks out the Note 4, but includes Moto X 2nd gen, galaxy S4) it has the biggest screen at 5.5" and the biggest battery at 3,000 mah, expandable memory (which the Moto X lacks), the back is removable to replace the battery/sim/etc (Moto X lacks), and has 3 gb of ram. However, I keep reading various reviews, both by critics and on Amazon, and people seem in agreement that the Moto X offers a better experience to the user than the LG G3. They say the G3 is buggy and bloated, the moto x is vanilla android and runs faster for it, the moto x screen is a better picture with the amoled feature, the battery lasts longer in the moto x because the screen does not draw as much power, and one reviewer even states that the G3 performs WORSE on benchmarks than the G2 . I'm curious what your all experience has been? Any insights or thoughts to share to help with this decision? I want to like the G3 better for a variety of reasons, but also don't want to ignore common experience. (well actually I'd like to get the Xperia Z3 for the 20 mp camera, but damn it only has a 5.2" screen, and it doesn't even seem to be sold for AT&T anywhere that I can find).
Thanks in advance!
I will try to give you an honest review , YES the phone is good on paper BUT on daily use is bad , its terrible , you read CPU with 2.5 Ghz woooow , BUT the phone gets hot in 5 minutes and forget about those Ghz , youll get like 1.2 to 1.5 Ghz , because of the 2k screen that gets too hot , battery drains like a 2013 smartphone , snapdragon 801 is a big no no on 2k screen
Camera is bad compared with a Sony Z2....
talking about the LG G2 if it weren't the micro-SD , the removable battery and the camera , it would be a downgrade
i consider the LG G2 better ....better battery life , gaming experience ....
If your choice depends on the price i would consider a sony xperia Z2 , the Lg G3 is not that bad , but having read dozens of persons regretting the buy.....
I would definitely buy this phone(LG G3) if the price were between 200 and 250$ , nothing more
THE BIGGEST CON IS THE SILLY 2K screen , you can lower the resolution but those pixels are still alive .....
this G3 model is a complete headache.....:crying: , i regret not buying the Z2
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I will try to give you an honest review , YES the phone is good on paper BUT on daily use is bad , its terrible , you read CPU with 2.5 Ghz woooow , BUT the phone gets hot in 5 minutes and forget about those Ghz , youll get like 1.2 to 1.5 Ghz , because of the 2k screen that gets too hot , battery drains like a 2013 smartphone , snapdragon 801 is a big no no on 2k screen
Camera is bad compared with a Sony Z2....
talking about the LG G2 if it weren't the micro-SD , the removable battery and the camera , it would be a downgrade
i consider the LG G2 better ....better battery life , gaming experience ....
If your choice depends on the price i would consider a sony xperia Z2 , the Lg G3 is not that bad , but having read dozens of persons regretting the buy.....
I would definitely buy this phone(LG G3) if the price were between 200 and 250$ , nothing more
THE BIGGEST CON IS THE SILLY 2K screen , you can lower the resolution but those pixels are still alive .....
this G3 model is a complete headache.....:crying: , i regret not buying the Z2
PD: my english is not good k
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Sell your G3 and buy another phone mate, we allready got wining noobs in stock
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Sell your G3 and buy another phone mate, we allready got wining noobs in stock
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you call me noob , and you have a LG G3 too....the irony in your fanboyism ,haha
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you call me noob , and you have a LG G3 too....the irony in your fanboyism ,haha
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I`am not fanboy of anything realy. Whats wrong is wrong, i agree with the thermal throttling making the phone slower at times. you can however flash a custom rom or kernel to increase the threashold. The camera is great imo and the software is a joy to use compared to Samsung for instance. You`re opinion is a bit too negative about the phone imo. Overall its a good phone and price/quality ratio is excellent. Just my 2 cents
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I`am not fanboy of anything realy. Whats wrong is wrong, i agree with the thermal throttling making the phone slower at times. you can however flash a custom rom or kernel to increase the threashold. The camera is great imo and the software is a joy to use compared to Samsung for instance. You`re opinion is a bit too negative about the phone imo. Overall its a good phone and price/quality ratio is excellent. Just my 2 cents
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Agreed. It sounds like he got a dud or was expecting too much. My phone has never overheated and I can go at least 24 hours without recharging. If I pushed the battery all the way down to 0%, I could probably go 30-36 hours. As most people have the ability to charge their phone every day, going 24 hours is good enough.
The camera on the phone is great as well as the button placement and double tap to wake/sleep. Paired with G3 Tweaksbox and the user experience is delightful.
I've never used the Moto X 2014 but the G3 is by no means a bad phone. One of the best of 2014 IMO.
A few reasons I love this phone:
2k screen
Removable battery
microSD support
Excellent camera
One of the highest screen to body ratios on any phone currently out
Great button placement
Loud speaker
Regarding the thermal throttling and other performance issues, I'm curious, is this still a problem or any better if you go through and debloat the phone (have seen various guides around that look pretty straightforward). Or is it actually more related to the screen size and pixels?
On that note, how does the quality of the screen display compare between the lg g3 (an IPS display right?) And an amoled display like the moto x or galaxy series? Is one a higher picture quality in terms of color, etc?
One of my best friends owns a moto x 2nd gen. I must say it is a beauty, and the feel in the hand is amazing, it screams quality. It has one front facing speaker which is good. Display is a bit on the warmer side, it looks nice and "contrasty", although i'm not a fan of Amoled displays. Oh, and it is very very snappy. Nearly stock android and quick updates is also always a plus. My friend praises it's battery life even though on paper it is nothing special, but it looks like the software is optimized well. As long as you're not a heavy gamer it should easily get you through a day.
I have the 32/3GB G3, i came from a nexus 5. I already mentioned this somewhere around here, it's not as smooth as a nexus 5 (or moto x 2014), but i like some of the added functionality and i can live with the occasional microlags. The speaker is powerful, even though it is firing backwards. The display is ok, i would'nt say it's gorgeous as some say around here, but it's also not bad as others do.
Before i got my G3 i was worried about overheating issues that i read about online, and i have to say, for now i haven't faced this issue (maybe because it's winter and temp. is low, which of course does not count for temp. indoors)
Low thermal throttling threshold is not only a G3 thing, it's also well known on nexus 4 & 5 (both made by LG).
I think lollipop still needs a lot of optimizing (including for nexus devices), and i believe the G3 can only perform better in the future. Although, IMO it will never be as smooth as something running (nearly) stock android.
Oh, and battery life on my G3 is amazing. Over 5h of screen on on a full day uptime. (With my usage pattern of course). Add to all that microSD expansion option, and removable battery -if you're into that or need extra juice. The camera is also a plus on the G3's side.
No one can make the decision instead of you. It's your call. You have to add the + and - of both, and see what suits you best.
My advice is, if you're asking for the better software experience, are not afraid of burn-in on an amoled display and don't need a removable battery/ expandable storage, then go with the Moto X 2014.
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No one can make the decision instead of you. It's your call. You have to add the + and - of both, and see what suits you best.
My advice is, if you're asking for the better software experience, are not afraid of burn-in on an amoled display and don't need a removable battery/ expandable storage, then go with the Moto X 2014.
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Yea you are exactly right. I think it is bothersome that the Moto X does not provide for expandable storage nor battery replacement. But the user experience is important; don't want glitches and hangs. Though that being said, I'm currently using a Galaxy S3 with the unofficial Omni rom port and their kernel, and while it does have some glitches and hang ups it doesn't bother me too much, so I imagine the LG G3 would perform much more smoothly, especially if the Stock rom is in operation rather than a custom port.
Have you tried any of the debloating? (lots of tutorials, here's the one I bookmarked: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-lg-g3/general/guide-how-to-remove-bloatware-att-lg-g3-t2822501)
I'm curious if that would not make the OS feel more "snappy" and "vanilla android" as people keep praising the Moto X for. If that were the case then hands down I would go for the G3 with the removable battery, expandable memory, larger sccreen, etc.
Side note - even though the Moto X does not have a removable back, I would assume there is still a way to exchange the sim easily for when traveling abroad, etc?
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Yea you are exactly right. I think it is bothersome that the Moto X does not provide for expandable storage nor battery replacement. But the user experience is important; don't want glitches and hangs. Though that being said, I'm currently using a Galaxy S3 with the unofficial Omni rom port and their kernel, and while it does have some glitches and hang ups it doesn't bother me too much, so I imagine the LG G3 would perform much more smoothly, especially if the Stock rom is in operation rather than a custom port.
Have you tried any of the debloating? (lots of tutorials, here's the one I bookmarked: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-lg-g3/general/guide-how-to-remove-bloatware-att-lg-g3-t2822501)
I'm curious if that would not make the OS feel more "snappy" and "vanilla android" as people keep praising the Moto X for. If that were the case then hands down I would go for the G3 with the removable battery, expandable memory, larger sccreen, etc.
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The G3 is definitely quicker than the S3 (i had one for 3-4 months back in the day).
As for "debloating", don't take any guide word for word, tastes differ, and there are things you probably wouldn't want to move/delete. I used to "debloat" my nexuses by deleting all Google crap that is found in the playstore, so removing from /system and installing on /data, and then greenify what i want to greenify, and even on a nexus you would see a lil boost in battery and lower RAM usage. So, yeah, removing anything form /system on a G3 should help a bit performance wise, to what extent? i'm not sure. My G3 is full stock and unrooted for the moment, and as i said, i'm not bothered by the occasional lil hickups here and there.
Side note - even though the Moto X does not have a removable back, I would assume there is still a way to exchange the sim easily for when traveling abroad, etc?
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not sure, you should check with your carrier, but if you buy it from Moto directly you do get the lil pin to eject the sim (like the one iphones and many unibody android phones use)
Just saw this, apparently I can get the lg g3 for $0.01 from amazon and they will give me $100 gift card! Hmm, probably will go with being paid $99.99 to take lg g3 over moto x!
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/02/05/deal-buy-an-att-lg-g3-from-amazon-for-cheap-get-100-gift-card/
I have had this phone about 5 times longer than I have EVER had a phone, Its time for a new device! It has gotten very boring!
The s4 mini is a couple years old now but still king of the 4.3" market (with price and features included), what phones have y'all seen that will replace your s4 mini?
My phones must have an sd slot, 4.3ish inch screen(one thumb use), good cameras, LTE, and user replacable batteries.
The s5 mini would work for me if I could figure out how to move it to sprint from us cellular, z3 compact would be nice as well but the price is unjustifiable and I had a z1 compact and it had all sorts of bugs that I read arent too far off the z3c, the s5 mini Im still on the hunt for but I am also trying to make the switch over to cdma, the htc minis are solid phones but just not well executed with all its features being dull.
And to top it all off, the small screen market is so messed up I have almost gotten a few iphone 5s to play with! help me find a better phone!
Z3 has no custom rooms yet, especially no miui.
And it's very weak it would seem.
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Z3 has no custom rooms yet, especially no miui.
And it's very weak it would seem.
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Idk the last time you looked bit about a week ago I seen they finally have full root for z3c so it'll be more appealing to the majority and speed things up. I still think I'd rather have a s5 mini over the z3c any day though.
I did try a z3c before I bought my s4mini, also the off screen buttons that Samsung have at the bottom makes quite a difference!
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I did try a z3c before I bought my s4mini, also the off screen buttons that Samsung have at the bottom makes quite a difference!
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Definitely! I grew up on HTC phones and love my capacitive buttons. I tried the Nav bar buttons on a few phones and its just weird, but they usually come with a slightly bigger screen to offset. But it still reminds me too much of an iPhone where your screen is taken up by buttons rather than physical buttons
Well I've been living with the z5 compact for a few months and absolutely hate it. It's pretty much the only option out there right now but I still feel the s4 mini was a better phone. What have y'all come to decide on?
S7 mini is rumored, but will likely be large, xiamo mi5 mini will be perfect but no SD slot, HTC 10 mini is a rumor but probably too large with no SD slot as well. Any others I'm missing?
If anyone knows where to find a g800m s5 mini let me know, I'll be buying! Lol
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Well I've been living with the z5 compact for a few months and absolutely hate it. It's pretty much the only option out there right now but I still feel the s4 mini was a better phone. What have y'all come to decide on?
S7 mini is rumored, but will likely be large, xiamo mi5 mini will be perfect but no SD slot, HTC 10 mini is a rumor but probably too large with no SD slot as well. Any others I'm missing?
If anyone knows where to find a g800m s5 mini let me know, I'll be buying! Lol
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Well i would definitely like to go with samsung ( yes I love debloated touchwiz)mini dual sim flagships( s7 mini duos?!?), but alas! it looks most unlikely. Besides, 4.3"-4.5" screens with flagship specs are scarce/not available. On a brighter note ZUK Z2 looks promising, tough its 5" may be Mi5 mini if that comes out. Waiting.
Note: My ideal phone: 1)4.5" display( with max 5" dimension). 2) Dual sim with microsd (No hybrid sim tray). 3)Snapdragon 652(will reduce the price compared to 820) with Quick charge 3.0. 4)Weight: 140 gms max. 5)up to date Touchwiz Ui with with themes store. 6)Notification LED(RGB).
Finally got my hands on a G800M s5 mini a couple months ago after selling off my z5c. I like the form factor, the waterproofness, the speaker loudness, and resolution. all around a nice phone except for dev support, the s4 mini blows it away in that department. If you get a chance to find one snatch it up!(it took me two years of searching) I still daily the s4 mini though, and probably will be for a few more years.. Also Im going to be trying the ios10 out for the SE once jailbreak comes out.
i still have my s4 mini in a drawer parked aside, it was my main device but i recently upgraded to the nexus 5x and i just love it! but the s4 mini remains one of my favorite android phones ever used.
I came to the S4 Mini from the diminutive Xperia Ray (awesome LegacyXperia roms!), so the Samsung felt quite large initially. Now I look at the Ray, which still serves me well as an alarm clock, and it seems so small...I cannot believe I used it for web, mail, maps, etc.
The S4 Mini is a great little device, and made even better thanks to the sterling work from @arco68. Every so often I search the net for news of any new 4.3" phones with decent specs and good developer support, but of course nothing exists. I considered a Z3C before getting the S4 Mini, but was put-off by the limited official CM development, which I consider to be essential.
I remain hopeful that a manufacturer will one day launch a well-specked, modern, and truly mini phone that devs can get behind. However, until that happens I will happily stick with S4 Mini, which does everything I need and is just the right size.
My S4 mini suddenly died (surprise) and I found the Galaxy A3 pretty fit, I can type better for some reason and had almost everything for my unique setup (I prefer KK, need xposed and WPS WPA working). Obviously not the same in performance and development (not CM 11 for this) but was surprisely good.
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My S4 mini suddenly died (surprise) and I found the Galaxy A3 pretty fit, I can type better for some reason and had almost everything for my unique setup (I prefer KK, need xposed and WPS WPA working). Obviously not the same in performance and development (not CM 11 for this) but was surprisely good.
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the a3 is almost identical to the s5 mini except no 720p and waterproofness. no kit cm11 for the s5 mini either, Im a big kit kat fan as well
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the a3 is almost identical to the s5 mini except no 720p and waterproofness. no kit cm11 for the s5 mini either, Im a big kit kat fan as well
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Me too, there's just something better with KK. Best compatibility with DonkeyGuard and Opera Mini Handler Hui (actually those two apps don't even run in Lollliopop). I just wish that the S5 mini had CM 11 and will fully switch
Fingers crossed the rumors of a Xiamoi Mi S turn out to be true...
Hello all!
After a lot of hard use, the screen on my beloved S4 mini broke and are not usable..
I don't think its really worth buying a replacement screen for this old phone, but looking around on newer models, i feel like we are really lucky to have this great community and development still around.
If your phone broke what new one would you get? Or would you get a new s4 mini again? I mean, 8mp camera, low resolution screen... The specs for this phone are really bad, but the roms/development around it is just amazing it seems. And yea, i have been really happy with it the last 2.5+ years.
The other problem is that i dont really want a phone that is much bigger than this one currently is, as i think it has a great size..
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Hello all!
After a lot of hard use, the screen on my beloved S4 mini broke and are not usable..
I don't think its really worth buying a replacement screen for this old phone, but looking around on newer models, i feel like we are really lucky to have this great community and development still around.
If your phone broke what new one would you get? Or would you get a new s4 mini again? I mean, 8mp camera, low resolution screen... The specs for this phone are really bad, but the roms/development around it is just amazing it seems. And yea, i have been really happy with it the last 2.5+ years.
The other problem is that i dont really want a phone that is much bigger than this one currently is, as i think it has a great size..
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it will depend on your financial stats , if i was in your place and my financial stat is lets say average or even a little better i would go for the S5 mini
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it will depend on your financial stats , if i was in your place and my financial stat is lets say average or even a little better i would go for the S5 mini
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Money is not the biggest problem really, but i dont want to give 1000$ for a flagship phone, because it's not worth it imo
Yea i looked at the s5 mini, but as far as i can tell, its not really much better. The resolution is a little better and then it features a quad core cpu. But the rest is pretty much the same, and its already 2+ years old
What about the Galaxy A3? is a little bigger (4.7"), but has some better specs. But it doesnt seem it much supported by rom builders.. Or maybe the Xperia Z5 compact, but its like double the price of the S5 mini.
I wish samsung had continued their Mini series..
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Money is not the biggest problem really, but i dont want to give 1000$ for a flagship phone, because it's not worth it imo
Yea i looked at the s5 mini, but as far as i can tell, its not really much better. The resolution is a little better and then it features a quad core cpu. But the rest is pretty much the same, and its already 2+ years old
What about the Galaxy A3? is a little bigger (4.7"), but has some better specs. But it doesnt seem it much supported by rom builders.. Or maybe the Xperia Z5 compact, but its like double the price of the S5 mini.
I wish samsung had continued their Mini series..
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well there is no big difference between the s4 mini and the A3 only in screen size and CPU which is not something will make me personnaly want it , and nooooooooo stay away from the Xperia if you love custom roms and those stuff , they are so complicated and some of them even dont accept custom roms ( locked bootloader ) i decided to never own an xperia again in my life even for free
try looking in the Galaxy J there are some great phones too
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well there is no big difference between the s4 mini and the A3 only in screen size and CPU which is not something will make me personnaly want it , and nooooooooo stay away from the Xperia if you love custom roms and those stuff , they are so complicated and some of them even dont accept custom roms ( locked bootloader ) i decided to never own an xperia again in my life even for free
try looking in the Galaxy J there are some great phones too
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Hmm well the A3 has better screen, better cpu, better camera and better battery but it seems the battery is not removeable though.
Haha yea alright point taken about the xperia
the s4 mini is a good phone and it wins on more phones, i suggest you to replace the screen or to buy the new s4 mini plus
I was also considering a Z3 compact when seeing a replacement for my beloved Xperia Ray, but went for a refurbished S4 Mini. A great little phone, and excellent dev support (thanks to @arco68). I liked the sleek appearance of the A3, but it's bigger than the S4 Mini and Z Compacts.
Nice comparison tool here:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/si...mpact,Samsung-Galaxy-A3/phones/7788,9611,8932
Cheers!
I'm also looking for a replacement. So far, I tried:
- Samsung S5 Mini - larger, pentile screen = text looks fuzzy, has GPS hardware issue
- Moto X 2013 - has 5.1 official, great screen, but: larger, software keys make usable space same as S4 Mini, no sd card, has radio standby bug
- Sony Z5 Compact - expensive, really blocky & heavy - not very compact when compared to all the others in list, software keys make usable space *less than* S4 Mini
- Samsung A3 2015 - larger & blockier, very light, nice materials, only Android 5.0 with probably no update, specs almost same as S4 Mini (Plus / VE)
- Samsung A3 2016 - even larger, pentile screen = text looks really fuzzy, worse than S4 Mini...
- Moto G LTE 2013 - larger, but ergonomic, heavy, Android 5.1, sd card, only 1 GB RAM & 8 GB space
So far, only A3 2015 & Moto G LTE 2013 are acceptable, but no real upgrades (apart from not being stuck on KitKat...).
There are other new phones similar in size with S4 Mini, but all are huge downgrades: Lenovo A1000, Samsung J1 Mini, chinese phones...
So far, staying with S4 Mini seems the only good option...
What about the S3 Mini
I have both the S3 and S4 Mini, I prefer the S3, S4 is stuck at 3G, also the S3 is a little smaller than S4, Just my humble opinion.
Keep s4 mini is best ever
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I have both the S3 and S4 Mini, I prefer the S3, S4 is stuck at 3G, also the S3 is a little smaller than S4, Just my humble opinion.
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I also checked the S3 Mini as soon as it was released. Unfortunately, it was also pentile, and at that resolution it was very visible.
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So far, staying with S4 Mini seems the only good option...
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I know, right? It's crazy to think that our ~3 year old phone is still one of the best compact devices available.
I had hoped that the iPhone 5SE would encourage other manufacturers to release new <4.5" devices with modern specs. Every so often I check to see if any new, compact Android phones have been announced, but it seems 5.0" is considered the 'sweet spot' these days.
It's a shame the One Plus 3 Mini rumour was quashed - that would have made for a nice little device.
Cheers!
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I know, right? It's crazy to think that our ~3 year old phone is still one of the best compact devices available.
Cheers!
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Yea exactly. But my s4 mini is also getting a little 'boring' to look at, the same about the s5 mini, so i would like some other design. Sonys experia models looks pretty good, but they are all 5", like the xperia XA, it looks very good
If i chose to buy the galaxy A3, it would definitely be the 2016 edition
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what do you mean that the text looks 'fuzzy'? I went to the store to look at it yesterday, i think it looked pretty good
The font lines are zig-zagged instead of straight because the pixels "borrow" subpixels from the adjacent ones. It's not obvious to anyone. I mostly read PDFs and browse desktop versions of sites, so the text is small and uses few pixels, so it makes a huge difference to me. I compared the 2016 model to the 2015 one, and to S4 Mini side by side, and the new model was worse than both.