Home button: should it stick above bezel? - Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooti

On my Note the home button is slightly raised above the bezel - not more than 0.5mm - which causes accidental turning on of the device, when it's carried in pocket or bag.
I wonder if all N8 have similar construction, or is mine somehow special and should be replaced - could anyone confirm how it looks on yours?
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p107r0 said:
On my Note the home button is slightly raised above the bezel - not more than 0.5mm ...
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Mine is that way too.

That's normal.
I would also prefer it to be ever so slightly recessed instead... or at least flush.
I also wish I could disable the capacitive buttons with a gesture or long press or something... i brush them by mistake too easily in landscape

FaeMinx said:
That's normal.
I would also prefer it to be ever so slightly recessed instead... or at least flush.
I also wish I could disable the capacitive buttons with a gesture or long press or something... i brush them by mistake too easily in landscape
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It's disappointing and looks a bit like a design mistake - on Note I the home buttons is placed below frame, precisely to avoid accidental presses.
Still, it's a minor issue, besides that Note 8 is everything I ever needed, except for embedded espresso machine and foldable 50 inch display....

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Am i the only one who keeps hitting the capacitive buttons?

I swear, every time I use the keyboard I mange to hit one of the capacitive buttons as I stretch my thumb to hit a far away letter. I'm sure a case with a lip will fix it but gee, couldn't they have put the buttons a little farther from the edge?
I seem to always hit the back button a lot with lower part of my hand when i am stretching to tap on something on the left part of the screen.
A lip would have ruined the aesthetics a bit as I love the flat body with rounded edges.
If you look at the phone, there isn't too much extra room to maneuver the buttons either.
Maybe our hands are just too small.
For that reason i prefer Sony xperia phone design with slim physical buttons.
It happens to me all the time but I quests I'm getting use to it now
Yeah, I'm always hitting it with the pad of my right thumb.
I usually don't but my daughter has a tendency to hit the menu button when watching YouTube videos
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i seem more likely to accidentally have part of my hand touching one part of the screen as i try to reach the other side with my thumb. Obvious by the unintentional zoom in/out.
I'm sure your not the only one. But I don't have that problem.
That doesn't really happen to me. Maybe its the way I hold the phone? Could be just my hand.
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I actually disabled the backlight for the capacitive buttons. Makes the phone look stealthy..
I've had issues with this when watching videos or playing games on landscape, for me what worked was I turned the phone so the usb port faces left side.

[Q] Holding note 10.1 2014 in portrait mode

How is it possible to hold this tab in portrait mode with those stupid hardware buttons located at where my left had is supposed to grip the tab?
I think this will be a turnoff for people who intend to use the tablet mainly for reading and annotating textbook, unless there is an option to disable hardware buttons while in portrait mode or completely disable them and replace them with software buttons with orientation.
The alternative will be holding the tablet upside down with the left hand gripping the camera
btw this is the only issue holding me from buying this tab
It seems like people are making a bigger issue out of this than it actually is. The long side is around 10 inches long and the buttons might take up three. I'm sure you'll be able to handle it without accidental button presses. In my opinion, having the menu button just below my thumb is a welcome feature.
Since the buttons are on the long side, that is the default way of holding it. Now the question is that if you are holding it with left hand, why you don't simply rotate it to other direction?
miloytyn said:
Since the buttons are on the long side, that is the default way of holding it. Now the question is that if you are holding it with left hand, why you don't simply rotate it to other direction?
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Being a right handed person i hold the tab by the left hand and write/turn pages by the right.
I'm not sure if holding the tab by the camera is a wise idea, for the risk of accidentally touching the camera lens.
fryguy18 said:
It seems like people are making a bigger issue out of this than it actually is. The long side is around 10 inches long and the buttons might take up three. I'm sure you'll be able to handle it without accidental button presses. In my opinion, having the menu button just below my thumb is a welcome feature.
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It may be only me but I'm more comfortable holding the tab from the middle of the left side.
Kimo377 said:
Being a right handed person i hold the tab by the left hand and write/turn pages by the right.
I'm not sure if holding the tab by the camera is a wise idea, for the risk of accidentally touching the camera lens.
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Well I don't see why touch the lens is that bad thing, as it usually is the part of phone, for exsample, which is touching table etc. And any fingerprints can be easily wiped from the lens. But that is just me.
ps. I don't understand using covers with phones either, with tablet they are more useful.
Yep, this is the only drawback I see. My stupid Crapple fans are going to laugh at me with their thin-bezeled, button free iPad 5's.
I don't know why the hell they had to put a hardware button on it. Hardware buttons on tablets are stupid.
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I'll probably rotate it and hold it by the camera lens. It's not like I'll ever use a gigantic tablet to take a picture anyway. That's why I'm getting my Note 3, so I can take pictures with a gigantic phone.
miloytyn said:
Well I don't see why touch the lens is that bad thing, as it usually is the part of phone, for exsample, which is touching table etc. And any fingerprints can be easily wiped from the lens. But that is just me.
ps. I don't understand using covers with phones either, with tablet they are more useful.
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For me phone cover is more important since I drop it frequently unlike the tab
Han Solo 1 said:
Yep, this is the only drawback I see. My stupid Crapple fans are going to laugh at me with their thin-bezeled, button free iPad 5's.
I don't know why the hell they had to put a hardware button on it. Hardware buttons on tablets are stupid.
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I'll probably rotate it and hold it by the camera lens. It's not like I'll ever use a gigantic tablet to take a picture anyway. That's why I'm getting my Note 3, so I can take pictures with a gigantic phone.
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You are right about the back camera but the front one i use frequently for video calls.
Looks like i'm the only one that actually likes the idea of a hard button! it's an instant access to home, not being able to do this on a nexus annoys me, but i don't see why this should be a deal breaker really.
Han Solo 1 said:
Yep, this is the only drawback I see. My stupid Crapple fans are going to laugh at me with their thin-bezeled, button free iPad 5's.
I don't know why the hell they had to put a hardware button on it. Hardware buttons on tablets are stupid.
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I'll probably rotate it and hold it by the camera lens. It's not like I'll ever use a gigantic tablet to take a picture anyway. That's why I'm getting my Note 3, so I can take pictures with a gigantic phone.
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Say what you will but I think an inch bezel around the whole tablet is necessary, how else you plan on holding the thing if there is no room for your thumb. I could care less about what any isheep has to say about my tablet.
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thank god it has a thin bezel and a hard button. finally i'm convinced to buy a tablet.
I was holding of for years until there was one like this one. why dont you guys that want a thick bezel get one of the other dozen tablets that have the design you want. they have been out for years.
demz92 said:
Looks like i'm the only one that actually likes the idea of a hard button! it's an instant access to home, not being able to do this on a nexus annoys me, but i don't see why this should be a deal breaker really.
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While im not crazy about the idea I do have a Note 2 and already i'm use to them being there.
Actually I can see some benefits....
I'm sure you can disable the buttons or a program will come out that can.
In fact here is a rough draft on how to hack them...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34247225&postcount=14
The reason why they have physical buttons is because since 4.2 and up, the tablet UI became the phone UI. So you no longer had a bar at the bottom, one side with cappy buttons and the other with the notification drawer.
Instead you have a status bar like on phones AND a bar at the bottom for only three buttons. Less screen estate, especially considering that Samsung would use the Home, Back and Menu buttons in capacitive form. That takes away quite a bit of screen space and you can see it happening especially in videos. To get what I mean, take a look at the 4.2.2 firmware for the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1. More screen is lost because the design guidelines have changed.
What Samsung's done is take away the bottom bar and used the physical buttons instead. Not the best solution but it allows for more screen space. On the Note, it'd be a bit of a shame to have about a centimetre thick part of that awesome screen taken up by three buttons.
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Soryuu said:
The reason why they have physical buttons is because since 4.2 and up, the tablet UI became the phone UI. So you no longer had a bar at the bottom, one side with cappy buttons and the other with the notification drawer.
Instead you have a status bar like on phones AND a bar at the bottom for only three buttons. Less screen estate, especially considering that Samsung would use the Home, Back and Menu buttons in capacitive form. That takes away quite a bit of screen space and you can see it happening especially in videos. To get what I mean, take a look at the 4.2.2 firmware for the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1. More screen is lost because the design guidelines have changed.
What Samsung's done is take away the bottom bar and used the physical buttons instead. Not the best solution but it allows for more screen space. On the Note, it'd be a bit of a shame to have about a centimetre thick part of that awesome screen taken up by three buttons.
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I agree with this. Though I am not a huge fan of the physical buttons I really like that it has the extra screen real-estate.
someone will mod it soon. i've actually gotten used to the buttons on my gn8. the only time hate em is when gaming. the rom I use has a mod to turn them off and only make them useable via spen. you'll get used to it too. you may never like it, but you can find a work around.
As someone who owns this tablet the physical buttons are a huge step backwards. Why? That POS menu key. Coming from the original Note 10.1 it's ridiculous constantly hitting that menu button to find out if it has a menu available. Compare to the original Note 10.1 where menu options appear in the action bar. Samsung has completely ruined the tablet experience with their incredibly stupid design choices. This tablet is such a huge pain to navigate. Why can't somebody else offer a Wacom stylus on their 10" Android tablet? I wish Google would throw an S Pen'ish stylus on their Nexus 10 so I can rid myself of Samsung's incompetence. I've never had such a frustrating tech purchase.
I have a Note II with a physical menu key but it's not nearly as frustrating because everything is so close together. I feel like my hand is running a marathon with this tablet having to move all ovef the place to navigate the UI.
I love the S Pen. It works beautifully. The screen is gorgeous. It's not a brick like some other high resolution tablets. It's very powerful and fast. Why oh why did they throw hardware keys on this thing and muck everything up. I would gladly take the black bar on the bottom with home, task switch and back if I could.
The disable hardware keys mod cannot come fast enough for me.
i'm not really diggin the physical buttons either. there's enough screen real estate to have the nav bar on the bottom. the home button is ok, but the menu and back have becoe more and more of a nuisance. i tolerate them on the gn8 b/c of the extra screen area i get plus using the soft nav buttons hack doesn't hide button properly in full screen video.
i can get use them being there on the note10 but i don't won't like them better than soft nav buttons. i hope if they hack it that it'll properly hide in full screen.
I haven't read the posts in this thread, but I wanted to comment that I happen to like the hard buttons. I'm right handed and hold it with my left like OP. I like that I can reach the option, home and return buttons (this is what you all mean by "hard buttons" right?) with my thumb. The design feels very intuitive and quite natural. I also recently found out that you can quickly access the task manager by holding down the home button. It will open up a menu similar to the menu that opened when you pressed the double rectangle button on the older model. The more time I spend with this device the more I love it. My mom is actually getting the new Note 3 so she's going to let me have her Note 2. I can finally get rid of this iphone 3 that came free with my contract.

when using your s pen...

When you're using your s pen scrolling through pages and what not and you need to hit the home button do you use your finger or the s pen tip to push it? It's more convenient to push it using the s pen but was wondering if it'd damage the tip or scratch the home button.
I use the tip of the S Pen because its eaiser and faster. I haven't noticed any scratches of any sort yet and I'm using the grey (harder) tips for my pen.
NIKKOTUASON said:
I use the tip of the S Pen because its eaiser and faster. I haven't noticed any scratches of any sort yet and I'm using the grey (harder) tips for my pen.
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That's actually something else I was wondering about. What's the difference between the different tips other than some being harder/softer? Does it change your writing?
It changes the feel. For example when I was using a glass screen protector I used the rubber tip so I can have more control. I've changed my screen protector to a Skinomi which is plastic and the rubber tip just has too much grip on the screen so switching to a hard tip fixed this now it just glides no resistance.
Do you know which one comes pre-installed?
I use an app named "easy home" with this app, you dont need to press the home button, just touching it, no need to click, like the back an recents buttons
If I remember correctly it's the soft tip 'white.

Home Button appears to be not level

Hi! I would like to ask everyone if you got a home button that is not level, that is somewhat slight depressed towards the Left or Right Side? Mine is just like that, though the full-function of the home button is not affected. I noticed that you can actually apply a bit of pressure and the home button will actually move. And there are times that the home button would feel like it wiggle but only very slightly, which is strange to me.
Am I alone or does anyone have the same issue?
Paolonicus said:
Hi! I would like to ask everyone if you got a home button that is not level, that is somewhat slight depressed towards the Left or Right Side? Mine is just like that, though the full-function of the home button is not affected. I noticed that you can actually apply a bit of pressure and the home button will actually move. And there are times that the home button would feel like it wiggle but only very slightly, which is strange to me.
Am I alone or does anyone have the same issue?
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Not alone. I feel it randomly as well.
Mine is slightly lower on the right side and if you look at it side on and press it with a nail the whole button depresses. Maybe it was originally designed to press?
I have this as well, I didn't bother RMA'ing my phone as it doesn't bother me almost at all.
No, it's not designed to "press"..
It's happening because either the left or the right side of your glass around the button isn't seating properly to the frame.
Look closely at the button and clamp the glass down against the frame. See how the gap get's smaller?
The way the button is secured in place is the rear of it resting against the internal frame and with the glass on top locking it down in place.
8:45 onwards for the innards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdQ3nRAaafM
Edit: And if you clamp the glass down, when you release the pressure the glass rises back up again slightly and so does the button thanks to the small amount of adhesive around it. Now the button appears to be level, well it is level with the glass but when you press the button it's going to "fall" back down to the place it belongs: against the frame and appears to not be level but it's the glass that's not level.
What do?
a) deal with it
b) RMA and hope the replacement is better
lagittaja said:
I have this as well, I didn't bother RMA'ing my phone as it doesn't bother me almost at all.
No, it's not designed to "press"..
It's happening because either the left or the right side of your glass around the button isn't seating properly to the frame.
Look closely at the button and clamp the glass down against the frame. See how the gap get's smaller?
The way the button is secured in place is the rear of it resting against the internal frame and with the glass on top locking it down in place.
8:45 onwards for the innards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdQ3nRAaafM
Edit: And if you clamp the glass down, when you release the pressure the glass rises back up again slightly and so does the button thanks to the small amount of adhesive around it. Now the button appears to be level, well it is level with the glass but when you press the button it's going to "fall" back down to the place it belongs: against the frame and appears to not be level but it's the glass that's not level.
What do?
a) deal with it
b) RMA and hope the replacement is better
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Ok. So what about it moving/wiggling so slightly at times? I tried leveling the button by applying a little bit of pressure on the other side but it quickly returns back to it's original place, which is slightly depressed towards the right side.
Double Post, sorry

Power Button Recessed

Is anyone else experiencing issues with the power button on their 2XL?
I have the Black & White version and the orange power button seems to be protruding less and less from the main frame, making it difficult to press.
It's still quite "clicky" but in comparison to the volume rocker it's much more be recessed.
mkouk said:
Is anyone else experiencing issues with the power button on their 2XL?
I have the Black & White version and the orange power button seems to be protruding less and less from the main frame, making it difficult to press.
It's still quite "clicky" but in comparison to the volume rocker it's much more be recessed.
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I've noticed that. It seems to fit a little more flush with the frame. not a deal breaker for me. I've got a decent screen... Can't risk a replacement lol
Mine still seems fine, been kept in a Ringke case since new so possibly doesn't get pushed in as far as a naked button.
I've had it in the Google fabric case since I got it which also covers the buttons. I think it also may have something to do with that...the fabric case button is much bigger and pops out more...and now that I've taken the case off, the actual power button feels less prominent.
I rarely use the button.
So, I activate the phone using finger print and turn the screen off using "screen off" app
gogol said:
I rarely use the button.
So, I activate the phone using finger print and turn the screen off using "screen off" app
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Ah good shout. I've just activated a similar feature in Nova Launcher. Thanks for the tip.
Yes, same here. Orange button seems slightly recessed.
My dad just got his Pixel, and I have had mine for over 2 months. Both power buttons are identical. Protruding slightly less than the volume rocker. It's definitely not getting worse over time.
I've thought the same thing on the ones i've had but this was the 3rd one i've had and all have been the same spot. Has never failed me yet though had it since launch

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