I swear, every time I use the keyboard I mange to hit one of the capacitive buttons as I stretch my thumb to hit a far away letter. I'm sure a case with a lip will fix it but gee, couldn't they have put the buttons a little farther from the edge?
I seem to always hit the back button a lot with lower part of my hand when i am stretching to tap on something on the left part of the screen.
A lip would have ruined the aesthetics a bit as I love the flat body with rounded edges.
If you look at the phone, there isn't too much extra room to maneuver the buttons either.
Maybe our hands are just too small.
For that reason i prefer Sony xperia phone design with slim physical buttons.
It happens to me all the time but I quests I'm getting use to it now
Yeah, I'm always hitting it with the pad of my right thumb.
I usually don't but my daughter has a tendency to hit the menu button when watching YouTube videos
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i seem more likely to accidentally have part of my hand touching one part of the screen as i try to reach the other side with my thumb. Obvious by the unintentional zoom in/out.
I'm sure your not the only one. But I don't have that problem.
That doesn't really happen to me. Maybe its the way I hold the phone? Could be just my hand.
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I actually disabled the backlight for the capacitive buttons. Makes the phone look stealthy..
I've had issues with this when watching videos or playing games on landscape, for me what worked was I turned the phone so the usb port faces left side.
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I tried that cardboard trick, it helps but makes your phone case look ugly or steak out on a weird way. Sometimes it will hit both buttons. This fix will solve all these problems.
Here's the best way to fix the tpu case Volume buttons. Very simple.
Simply take a very small razor blade or a exact o knife and cut around the volume up buton but leave a 1/8th of a inch pivot point in between The volume up and down button. Next do the same for the down button.
I hope this solves everyones problem with these nice TPU cases if I Help to you please send me a thanks....
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I just did this and it works well. The volume keys are much easier to press.
Here are some pics of how far I cut.
The first image shows that the cut is not noticeable unless you look very closely under direct light.
http://i.imgur.com/iQwi7.jpg
The second image shows the cut depth.
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Thanks for posting pictures i didnt have time hope it helped
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I used duct tape instead. Three strip layers inside the case made perfect contact w/ the volume rocker. Its working perfectly now!
I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to cut the plastic over the volume buttons off entirely...
Depends how fat your fingers are. The hole can get a little narrow, making it harder to press than the suggestion above.
IMO though wait a week before doing anything. I thought they were a little stiff at first, but I just pushed them in and out about 30 times with the case off and they loosened up. I actually prefer it stock now, as I don't press the volume buttons by accident when holding the phone in landscape mode and it isn't bad at all now that it has loosened up.
OMG! The duct tape works perfectly. Pain to cut it but now the buttons work like butter!!! Weeeee.
I know my Home Button is not loose, but when I move my index finger across the Home Button as I am pressing down from left to right, I can feel somewhat of a bump / hump towards the central part of the button; something elevated beneath. Is this normal?
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I know my Home Button is not loose, but when I move my index finger across the Home Button as I am pressing down from left to right, I can feel somewhat of a bump / hump towards the central part of the button; something elevated beneath. Is this normal?
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Not normal.
Whatever, its crap-plastic, that's all I have to say. All the Note 2's I've seen have this home button feel (don't know how to describe it in my first post). Never expected it to be this bad. Not endorsing Apple here, but at least Apple assembles their toys (particularly phones) all under one roof whereas Samsung assembles their Note 2's in various factories. No wonder Apple's quality control is still more consistent than Samsung.
If what I think you're trying to explain is exactly what you think, I'd have to say that's normal. If you've ever popped a key off a keyboard, I'm assuming what's underneath that key is what's underneath that home button. Or at least something similar.
Think of it like a teeter totter. The fulcrum being the button underneath. What you sit on being the entire home button.
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to think on a more positive note; it does feel sturdy. don't think the home button will come off unless you use duct tape. lol
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If what I think you're trying to explain is exactly what you think, I'd have to say that's normal. If you've ever popped a key off a keyboard, I'm assuming what's underneath that key is what's underneath that home button. Or at least something similar.
Think of it like a teeter totter. The fulcrum being the button underneath. What you sit on being the entire home button.
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Haha, pretty much! Sometimes I wish the home button doubled as an optical track pad like my old G2, but I didn't buy the phone to use it one handed!
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1st of all iam a die hard samsung fan ever since the epic 4g touch so this isnt someone just lookin for something stupid to complain about lol. One thing that bugs me is when ever im using one hand to handle my note which is my right hand i go to press power up or down its a natural reflex to hit power with my thumb. And with the design of the buttons the way they are i really cant help to have my thumb over power button. I know a flygrip could solve my issue but really dont want to put one on my UAG. im 6ft 5 and can palm s basketball easily so size of phone isnt an issue. Just wondering if anyone else has this issue?
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I like it better on the side. Makes locking the screen far easier one handed.
Sorry gotta disagree with ya. Love the power button on the side especially for these large screens.
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Power button on the side. If you would like it on top pretty sure htc has alot of phones with that.
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Resistance is futile.....you will be assimilated.
On the side for me
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On the side, it would be much more harder to unlock/lock the phone if it was on the top of the device. Imo, would make it difficult for one handed use especially with the already big screen size.
I prefer it on top.
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at least they moved it down a little.. it was higher on the e4gt and it was always getting pressed accidentally. side is better though imo. easier to turn off and on.
If Samsung puts it on top, Apple will sue.
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i think the other companies should start putting their power buttons on the side.
I like it on the bottom myself... Wait, we're talking about phones??
I accidentally press the volume buttons on occasion so it should be a little lower, but I like it on the side.
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i like the side until i try a level app and try laying phone on side,either side.idk maybe move it to the same side as volume,i think that might suit my grip better.
on a different note,i like charging port on bottom but how about a 90 degree end on charger so when you are laid back and resting a charging phone on you it doesnt feel like you are going to break the charging port.
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I like it on the bottom myself... Wait, we're talking about phones??
I accidentally press the volume buttons on occasion so it should be a little lower, but I like it on the side.
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Ummmm...... Ok....
Power button on top or side is fine.... I can adjust. I won't die if it's on any side
Apple would probably try to sue Samsung for it lol.
Cause Apple is a company full of idea stealing, lawsuit making hipsters.
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Power on the side works out great for me since my car dock only grabs the top & bottom. If the power button was on top the car dock clip would always be pressing it.
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Yet where it is now I do often turn the screen on unintentionally and bring up the power/reboot dialog unintentionally.
There is no magic spot anywhere on the device that will not get in the way or be inconvenient for someone.
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I'd say the top myself. I did like that on the HTC phones. I've gotten used to it now though. I'm 6'3 myself and can also palm the ball. So this phone doesnt seen big to me. If it goes a little bigger I'll def. be ok with it
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No, right hand, right thumb, right SIDE! Otherwise it would be a HTC, and we all no matter how sweet they look they are not Samsung! Which is why we are all in this Forum ....
I too prefer it on the top, except with this large phone. It makes sense due to the largeness. However, it's nearly impossible to hand an Android phone to an iPhone user without them pushing SOMETHING on the phone. Forget about sharing pictures, ha. Power button on the top would help with that, but it's a minor complaint. I still want real buttons for the home/back/menu area, they're too easy to press by accident. But I think I'm in the minority here.
On my Note the home button is slightly raised above the bezel - not more than 0.5mm - which causes accidental turning on of the device, when it's carried in pocket or bag.
I wonder if all N8 have similar construction, or is mine somehow special and should be replaced - could anyone confirm how it looks on yours?
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On my Note the home button is slightly raised above the bezel - not more than 0.5mm ...
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Mine is that way too.
That's normal.
I would also prefer it to be ever so slightly recessed instead... or at least flush.
I also wish I could disable the capacitive buttons with a gesture or long press or something... i brush them by mistake too easily in landscape
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That's normal.
I would also prefer it to be ever so slightly recessed instead... or at least flush.
I also wish I could disable the capacitive buttons with a gesture or long press or something... i brush them by mistake too easily in landscape
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It's disappointing and looks a bit like a design mistake - on Note I the home buttons is placed below frame, precisely to avoid accidental presses.
Still, it's a minor issue, besides that Note 8 is everything I ever needed, except for embedded espresso machine and foldable 50 inch display....
How is it possible to hold this tab in portrait mode with those stupid hardware buttons located at where my left had is supposed to grip the tab?
I think this will be a turnoff for people who intend to use the tablet mainly for reading and annotating textbook, unless there is an option to disable hardware buttons while in portrait mode or completely disable them and replace them with software buttons with orientation.
The alternative will be holding the tablet upside down with the left hand gripping the camera
btw this is the only issue holding me from buying this tab
It seems like people are making a bigger issue out of this than it actually is. The long side is around 10 inches long and the buttons might take up three. I'm sure you'll be able to handle it without accidental button presses. In my opinion, having the menu button just below my thumb is a welcome feature.
Since the buttons are on the long side, that is the default way of holding it. Now the question is that if you are holding it with left hand, why you don't simply rotate it to other direction?
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Since the buttons are on the long side, that is the default way of holding it. Now the question is that if you are holding it with left hand, why you don't simply rotate it to other direction?
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Being a right handed person i hold the tab by the left hand and write/turn pages by the right.
I'm not sure if holding the tab by the camera is a wise idea, for the risk of accidentally touching the camera lens.
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It seems like people are making a bigger issue out of this than it actually is. The long side is around 10 inches long and the buttons might take up three. I'm sure you'll be able to handle it without accidental button presses. In my opinion, having the menu button just below my thumb is a welcome feature.
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It may be only me but I'm more comfortable holding the tab from the middle of the left side.
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Being a right handed person i hold the tab by the left hand and write/turn pages by the right.
I'm not sure if holding the tab by the camera is a wise idea, for the risk of accidentally touching the camera lens.
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Well I don't see why touch the lens is that bad thing, as it usually is the part of phone, for exsample, which is touching table etc. And any fingerprints can be easily wiped from the lens. But that is just me.
ps. I don't understand using covers with phones either, with tablet they are more useful.
Yep, this is the only drawback I see. My stupid Crapple fans are going to laugh at me with their thin-bezeled, button free iPad 5's.
I don't know why the hell they had to put a hardware button on it. Hardware buttons on tablets are stupid.
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I'll probably rotate it and hold it by the camera lens. It's not like I'll ever use a gigantic tablet to take a picture anyway. That's why I'm getting my Note 3, so I can take pictures with a gigantic phone.
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Well I don't see why touch the lens is that bad thing, as it usually is the part of phone, for exsample, which is touching table etc. And any fingerprints can be easily wiped from the lens. But that is just me.
ps. I don't understand using covers with phones either, with tablet they are more useful.
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For me phone cover is more important since I drop it frequently unlike the tab
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Yep, this is the only drawback I see. My stupid Crapple fans are going to laugh at me with their thin-bezeled, button free iPad 5's.
I don't know why the hell they had to put a hardware button on it. Hardware buttons on tablets are stupid.
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I'll probably rotate it and hold it by the camera lens. It's not like I'll ever use a gigantic tablet to take a picture anyway. That's why I'm getting my Note 3, so I can take pictures with a gigantic phone.
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You are right about the back camera but the front one i use frequently for video calls.
Looks like i'm the only one that actually likes the idea of a hard button! it's an instant access to home, not being able to do this on a nexus annoys me, but i don't see why this should be a deal breaker really.
Han Solo 1 said:
Yep, this is the only drawback I see. My stupid Crapple fans are going to laugh at me with their thin-bezeled, button free iPad 5's.
I don't know why the hell they had to put a hardware button on it. Hardware buttons on tablets are stupid.
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I'll probably rotate it and hold it by the camera lens. It's not like I'll ever use a gigantic tablet to take a picture anyway. That's why I'm getting my Note 3, so I can take pictures with a gigantic phone.
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Say what you will but I think an inch bezel around the whole tablet is necessary, how else you plan on holding the thing if there is no room for your thumb. I could care less about what any isheep has to say about my tablet.
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thank god it has a thin bezel and a hard button. finally i'm convinced to buy a tablet.
I was holding of for years until there was one like this one. why dont you guys that want a thick bezel get one of the other dozen tablets that have the design you want. they have been out for years.
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Looks like i'm the only one that actually likes the idea of a hard button! it's an instant access to home, not being able to do this on a nexus annoys me, but i don't see why this should be a deal breaker really.
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While im not crazy about the idea I do have a Note 2 and already i'm use to them being there.
Actually I can see some benefits....
I'm sure you can disable the buttons or a program will come out that can.
In fact here is a rough draft on how to hack them...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34247225&postcount=14
The reason why they have physical buttons is because since 4.2 and up, the tablet UI became the phone UI. So you no longer had a bar at the bottom, one side with cappy buttons and the other with the notification drawer.
Instead you have a status bar like on phones AND a bar at the bottom for only three buttons. Less screen estate, especially considering that Samsung would use the Home, Back and Menu buttons in capacitive form. That takes away quite a bit of screen space and you can see it happening especially in videos. To get what I mean, take a look at the 4.2.2 firmware for the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1. More screen is lost because the design guidelines have changed.
What Samsung's done is take away the bottom bar and used the physical buttons instead. Not the best solution but it allows for more screen space. On the Note, it'd be a bit of a shame to have about a centimetre thick part of that awesome screen taken up by three buttons.
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Soryuu said:
The reason why they have physical buttons is because since 4.2 and up, the tablet UI became the phone UI. So you no longer had a bar at the bottom, one side with cappy buttons and the other with the notification drawer.
Instead you have a status bar like on phones AND a bar at the bottom for only three buttons. Less screen estate, especially considering that Samsung would use the Home, Back and Menu buttons in capacitive form. That takes away quite a bit of screen space and you can see it happening especially in videos. To get what I mean, take a look at the 4.2.2 firmware for the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1. More screen is lost because the design guidelines have changed.
What Samsung's done is take away the bottom bar and used the physical buttons instead. Not the best solution but it allows for more screen space. On the Note, it'd be a bit of a shame to have about a centimetre thick part of that awesome screen taken up by three buttons.
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I agree with this. Though I am not a huge fan of the physical buttons I really like that it has the extra screen real-estate.
someone will mod it soon. i've actually gotten used to the buttons on my gn8. the only time hate em is when gaming. the rom I use has a mod to turn them off and only make them useable via spen. you'll get used to it too. you may never like it, but you can find a work around.
As someone who owns this tablet the physical buttons are a huge step backwards. Why? That POS menu key. Coming from the original Note 10.1 it's ridiculous constantly hitting that menu button to find out if it has a menu available. Compare to the original Note 10.1 where menu options appear in the action bar. Samsung has completely ruined the tablet experience with their incredibly stupid design choices. This tablet is such a huge pain to navigate. Why can't somebody else offer a Wacom stylus on their 10" Android tablet? I wish Google would throw an S Pen'ish stylus on their Nexus 10 so I can rid myself of Samsung's incompetence. I've never had such a frustrating tech purchase.
I have a Note II with a physical menu key but it's not nearly as frustrating because everything is so close together. I feel like my hand is running a marathon with this tablet having to move all ovef the place to navigate the UI.
I love the S Pen. It works beautifully. The screen is gorgeous. It's not a brick like some other high resolution tablets. It's very powerful and fast. Why oh why did they throw hardware keys on this thing and muck everything up. I would gladly take the black bar on the bottom with home, task switch and back if I could.
The disable hardware keys mod cannot come fast enough for me.
i'm not really diggin the physical buttons either. there's enough screen real estate to have the nav bar on the bottom. the home button is ok, but the menu and back have becoe more and more of a nuisance. i tolerate them on the gn8 b/c of the extra screen area i get plus using the soft nav buttons hack doesn't hide button properly in full screen video.
i can get use them being there on the note10 but i don't won't like them better than soft nav buttons. i hope if they hack it that it'll properly hide in full screen.
I haven't read the posts in this thread, but I wanted to comment that I happen to like the hard buttons. I'm right handed and hold it with my left like OP. I like that I can reach the option, home and return buttons (this is what you all mean by "hard buttons" right?) with my thumb. The design feels very intuitive and quite natural. I also recently found out that you can quickly access the task manager by holding down the home button. It will open up a menu similar to the menu that opened when you pressed the double rectangle button on the older model. The more time I spend with this device the more I love it. My mom is actually getting the new Note 3 so she's going to let me have her Note 2. I can finally get rid of this iphone 3 that came free with my contract.