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Hey guys, I'm new here and I'm just reading about this custom ROM stuff.
Now I don't have a smartphone yet and I have verizion. I'm really considering getting an HTC Touch Diamond for $99.99, but if I got it, could I use any of the awesome ROMs on here?
I was reading something about GSM and CDMA differences and got rather confused.
Thanks guys.
-Beaver_2
Hiya Beaver,
Most the Diamond roms I have seen on here are for the GSM model which is the one useful in many parts of the world (including the U.S. with carriers like AT&T and T-mobile). Verizon and Spring use CDMA which is a different type of radio/signal and is not compatible with GSM. And so GSM and CDMA phones have different types of radios and thus require different software to run them. On some other types of phones such as the AT&T Fuze have both CDMA and GSM counterparts and I have seen software on here for both versions. I'm not sure about the Diamond though.
Maybe helpful,
d.
Hiya Beaver,
Most the Diamond roms I have seen on here are for the GSM model which is the one useful in many parts of the world (including the U.S. with carriers like AT&T and T-mobile). Verizon and Spring use CDMA which is a different type of radio/signal and is not compatible with GSM. And so GSM and CDMA phones have different types of radios and thus require different software to run them. On some other types of phones such as the AT&T Fuze have both CDMA and GSM counterparts and I have seen software on here for both versions. I'm not sure about the Diamond though.
Maybe helpful,
d.
Hiya Beaver,
Here's a link to the forum with stuff for the CDMA version of the Diamond, but it doesn't look like there's much there. The beauty of GSM is that lots of developers around the world contribute to the development of the software since the GSM version of the phone is pretty wide-spread (though ironically I still haven't found a stable version of WM 6.5 that I really like).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=515
cheers,
D.
durkad said:
Hiya Beaver,
Here's a link to the forum with stuff for the CDMA version of the Diamond, but it doesn't look like there's much there. The beauty of GSM is that lots of developers around the world contribute to the development of the software since the GSM version of the phone is pretty wide-spread (though ironically I still haven't found a stable version of WM 6.5 that I really like).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=515
cheers,
D.
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Thanks Durkad, I suppose I'm pretty stuck with verizion. I notice there are some radio threads, they can't help me any can they?
This ROM looks pretty cool but I can't find where to download it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eM_RCaD1Hw
Beaver_2 said:
Thanks Durkad, I suppose I'm pretty stuck with verizion. I notice there are some radio threads, they can't help me any can they?
This ROM looks pretty cool but I can't find where to download it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eM_RCaD1Hw
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I found the website, there is another site that offers quite a bit of option for CDMA ROMS though it still doesn't come very close to what's offer here in the GSM site.
Here's the CDMA diamond site I'm talking about in case anyone here has a cdma dimaond.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=66
It has far more option than the CDMA forums here.
Tmobile website listed 850mzh umts, anyone tried with att sim yet? or we need to unlock the phone first?
yes this phone works on all carriers
do we have to unlock first? or phone comes unlocked?
excellent question
i'd like to know that too, as i'm waiting for it as well
he was referring to weather or not it supports at&t HSPA+
shapiro1234567890 said:
he was referring to weather or not it supports at&t HSPA+
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and that was the answer...
TMONews.com alludes to this question as well...
I guess Allgamer confirmed the million dollar question for all of us
I guess this will be my future-proof phone (at&t merger or not) for the next year or so.
this is definitely the best phone for a while, until another beast comes along on a quad band hspda+
this phone is literally a 4x4
you can switch to any GSM cell phone provider that you want with the same phone without thinking twice.
i just bought the phone full price.
on the phone box it listed.
gsm 850, 900, 1800, 1900.
umts band 1 (2100), band II (1900), band iv (1700), band V (850)!
so this phone does supports 850/1900 3g too!
Well this is good news at least... I guess this phone is the lube that will make the brutal takeover a bit less painful.
It passed the FCC with AT&T 3G support, there is NO question that it has AT&T 3G support.
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It passed the FCC with AT&T 3G support, there is NO question that it has AT&T 3G support.
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So did another recent (in the past 6 months) T-Mobile phone, the G2x. The specs said it etc. I wasn't until after the phone was released and some people actually tried it that they found out it didn't work.
Same caution should go with this device, until someone puts a bloody AT&T sim in it and gets a testable connection treat the specs, web and box with a grain of salt.
rahlquist said:
So did another recent (in the past 6 months) T-Mobile phone, the G2x. The specs said it etc. I wasn't until after the phone was released and some people actually tried it that they found out it didn't work.
Same caution should go with this device, until someone puts a bloody AT&T sim in it and gets a testable connection treat the specs, web and box with a grain of salt.
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No, the G2X was not tested by the FCC for AT&T 3G
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No, the G2X was not tested by the FCC for AT&T 3G
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Sorry again part of the confusions surrounding the G2X was a possible misstating by several blogs. http://pocketnow.com/android/lg-p999-passes-fcc-is-t-mobiles-g2x for example.
In the end though even if the FCC tests the phone to support those frequencies, the manuf lists the support and t-mob lists the support, until its tested by multiple users I wouldn't believe it. Sorry but I have been burned by to many manuf lies (I own a captivate need I say more) and too much incorrect information.
rahlquist said:
Sorry again part of the confusions surrounding the G2X was a possible misstating by several blogs. http://pocketnow.com/android/lg-p999-passes-fcc-is-t-mobiles-g2x for example.
In the end though even if the FCC tests the phone to support those frequencies, the manuf lists the support and t-mob lists the support, until its tested by multiple users I wouldn't believe it. Sorry but I have been burned by to many manuf lies (I own a captivate need I say more) and too much incorrect information.
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That model number is for a different LG G2X that T-Mobile didn't sell.
The T-Mobile Galaxy S II is IDENTICAL to the Telus Galaxy S II X - it has 850/1700/1900 WCDMA bands. You can stop the skepticism.
heygrl said:
That model number is for a different LG G2X that T-Mobile didn't sell.
The T-Mobile Galaxy S II is IDENTICAL to the Telus Galaxy S II X - it has 850/1700/1900 WCDMA bands. You can stop the skepticism.
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Ahhh so if they are identical then I presume someone tested it on that one?
Specs schmecks like I said until tested its rumored to be supported. I'd love to see confirmations from a reputable source that they have taken an AT&T sim and popped it in. Until that happens people should be cautious is all I am saying. Don't buy a phone and get locked into a contract for a spec thats unproven. Just because the hardware support is there doesn't mean the software can even use it.
I'm not skeptical of that which is proven but I am cynical of that which is quoted without proof. It' not you, or anyone else in this thread but after a years of dealing with telco and manufacturer broken promises, half truth's and specs that are just this side of outright lies...
did LG G2x listed umts 850/1900 on phone box?
this tmobile galaxy s2 does listed umts 850/1900 on phone box!
that is like saying on a honda sticker it listed 500 hp and the car only has 200hp, that' fault advertising, you can sue them!
That is true, they speculated that the G2x COULD have AT&T 3G but didn't "unlock" the feature. There is only one true way to figure this all out, that is to unlock the phone and try an AT&T 3G sim in it
netnerd said:
did LG G2x listed umts 850/1900 on phone box?
this tmobile galaxy s2 does listed umts 850/1900 on phone box!
that is like saying on a honda sticker it listed 500 hp and the car only has 200hp, that' fault advertising, you can sue them!
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My captivate listed on the box it had a gps, oh its got one allright but it aint worth a crap.
Just because the box says it has it doesn't mean it functions well. It just means its present. It may drop a AT&T 3g call every second due to a software bug that may never get fixed.
Then again it may have a better tuned antenna than the AT&T SGS II and get better reception. We just dont know. We know what the marketing material says but they doe come out and say oops sometimes.
ok guys... this conversation is getting a bit derailed.
The original question and answer is for the SGH-T989 nothing to do with the LG G2x
so stop comparing Orange vs Lemons, or at least make a new topic for your comparison, instead of hijacking this topic
Thanks
I'm one click away from buying the Galaxy Nexus from Google for $349 (AT&T HSPS+ unlocked). The only thing holding me back is rooting/roms. Would I run international roms on it since its an unlocked version? I went to the Dev section, but didn't see an AT&T dev forum for this phone.
Thanks
answer1o1 said:
I'm one click away from buying the Galaxy Nexus from Google for $349 (AT&T HSPS+ unlocked). The only thing holding me back is rooting/roms. Would I run international roms on it since its an unlocked version? I went to the Dev section, but didn't see an AT&T dev forum for this phone.
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The carrier isn't significant unless you're using a Sprint or Verizon branded Galaxy Nexus. All other Galaxy Nexus devices (the GSM models) are basically identical. The only black sheep is the Docomo model, which seems to have issues due to the SIM lock in place.
JaiaV said:
The carrier isn't significant unless you're using a Sprint or Verizon branded Galaxy Nexus. All other Galaxy Nexus devices (the GSM models) are basically identical. The only black sheep is the Docomo model, which seems to have issues due to the SIM lock in place.
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How would I be able to tell if its the Docomo model? This is it right here
https://play.google.com/store/devic...XZpY2VzX1VTX18xX3Byb21vXzEzNDA1MTg5NjUwMzYiXQ..
If you buy it from Google it isn't the Docomo model.
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Basically All GSM GNex owners go to the Android development forum. CDMA (Sprint and GNex) go to their respective forums
answer1o1 said:
I'm one click away from buying the Galaxy Nexus from Google for $349 (AT&T HSPS+ unlocked). The only thing holding me back is rooting/roms. Would I run international roms on it since its an unlocked version? I went to the Dev section, but didn't see an AT&T dev forum for this phone.
Thanks
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To be clear, there is no such thing as an AT&T Galaxy Nexus. From the Play Store, there is only one Galaxy Nexus (takju), which is unassociated with any one carrier and is compatible with AT&T's network (as well as every other GSM network).
Any thread or ROM that refers to just "Galaxy Nexus" with no mention of Verizon, Sprint, toro, toroplus, LTE, or CDMA will likely apply to your phone. The only exception would be if you're flashing radios since those are differentiated by region, but if that's something you're interested in, I'd suggest researching thoroughly before attempting
Thanks a lot for the input guys. I live in CA so I doubt I'd have to mess with the radio lol. Nexus should be here next week!
answer1o1 said:
Thanks a lot for the input guys. I live in CA so I doubt I'd have to mess with the radio lol. Nexus should be here next week!
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The baseband that the Play Store GNex ships with (at least mine did anyway) was XXLA2 which is actually a European baseband. It should work fine, but you may have better luck in terms of signal strength/quality/speeds if you use another radio. I know flashing UGLA4 (a North American baseband) on my GNex has proven best for me
If at some point down the line you do want to look into this stuff, I'd suggest this XDA thread on the topic.
mtmjr90 said:
The baseband that the Play Store GNex ships with (at least mine did anyway) was XXLA2 which is actually a European baseband. It should work fine, but you may have better luck in terms of signal strength/quality/speeds if you use another radio. I know flashing UGLA4 (a North American baseband) on my GNex has proven best for me
If at some point down the line you do want to look into this stuff, I'd suggest this XDA thread on the topic.
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I'll check it out, thanks.
Thats nice, a thread where no one was rude even though the answer would be obvious to most on this forum. Some people are so condescending..
Hello fellow Canadian GSIII owners: please see below and note which forum you should be looking in for ROMs for your devices:
AT&T forum: SGH-I747 (AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus and SaskTel)
T-Mobile forum: SGH-T999 (T-Mobile, Wind, Mobilicity and Videotron)
Sprint forum: SPH-L710 (Sprint only)
Verizon forum: SGH-I535 (Verizon only)
Developers, please put carrier support in the title of your threads. Thank you!
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Hello XDA,
Can we please get an android development forum for Rogers, Bell, Telus and Wind? Rogers/Bell/Telus phones are SGH-I747M and the Wind version is the SGH-T999, but they all have different basebands and stock ROMs. Trying to put Canadian threads in AT&T and Sprint forums will result in a big mess.
Alternatively, instead of separating by carrier, separate by model number. Keep all the I747 development threads in one forum and T999 threads in another. Then people can put the carrier into the title of the post.
Just something to think about.
Thanks!
I agree. But AFAIK, the Wind/Mobilicity/Videotron S3 is the same as T-Mobile's, not Sprint's.
TLS2000 said:
I agree. But AFAIK, the Wind/Mobilicity/Videotron S3 is the same as T-Mobile's, not Sprint's.
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Indeed it is. I stand corrected.
TLS2000 said:
I agree. But AFAIK, the Wind/Mobilicity/Videotron S3 is the same as T-Mobile's, not Sprint's.
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and the Rogers is the same as AT&T's
historically Rogers and AT&T have been interchangeable in almost every aspect on all the devices they shared. Rogers uses the exact same frequencies as AT&T, and the devices are the same aside from some minor differences in bloat, lte toggle, and native wifi tether
What about the Telus, does that fall under at&t also?
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I agree very hard to follow on what is for which phone, not going to take any chances until things are a little more clear. Still have the old S1 to mess with.
rail205 said:
What about the Telus, does that fall under at&t also?
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I agree very hard to follow on what is for which phone, not going to take any chances until things are a little more clear. Still have the old S1 to mess with.
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AT&T, Rogers, Bell and Telus have the same phone, the SGH-I747. But just because it's the same hardware does not mean it's the same software. It may or may not have different basebands and certainly has different carrier customizations. As Pirateghost mentioned, AT&T removes some features in its ROM (software), the most important being, at least for me, the ability to tether. So if you flash a rooted AT&T ROM on your Canadian device, it will most likely work but you will lose features(!) That's why we need to be very clear about what carrier each ROM is for. Furthermore, if you flash the wrong baseband (i.e. flash a Rogers baseband on a Bell phone), your phone may not work as a phone or it may connect to the wrong network and you will be charged roaming fees. At the moment, I can see that AT&T has a different baseband version from Bell, but Rogers and Bell seem to have the same baseband version. Are they interchangeable? I have no idea. Anyway, it's better not to mix these things up. That's why separate forums are a great idea.
As a SaskTel customer coming from the international i9000, these forums are very confusing and not very organized. I would definitely support more organization.
I guarantee that you won't roam on the other carrier if you flash the wrong baseband (Telus/Bell/Rogers). They don't have roaming agreements in place to allow that. That's why you won't get service with Rogers in some areas where Bell does have service.
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I guarantee that you won't roam on the other carrier if you flash the wrong baseband (Telus/Bell/Rogers). They don't have roaming agreements in place to allow that. That's why you won't get service with Rogers in some areas where Bell does have service.
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That is how it was with the i9000. If I flashed the wrong baseband (for example, a US modem that did not support 850 band), I would just have no reception when I left the city.
Sasktel, Bell, Rogers, Telus all have the AT&T version with tethering left in.
Jsick said:
That is how it was with the i9000. If I flashed the wrong baseband (for example, a US modem that did not support 850 band), I would just have no reception when I left the city.
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OK. Either way, flashing the wrong baseband is a bad idea.
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and the Rogers is the same as AT&T's
historically Rogers and AT&T have been interchangeable in almost every aspect on all the devices they shared. Rogers uses the exact same frequencies as AT&T, and the devices are the same aside from some minor differences in bloat, lte toggle, and native wifi tether
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Except this time around, it seems that there is a slight difference between the two in terms of software, and enough so that I've read posts of people having issues when using at&t based stuff on their rogers phones.
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Except this time around, it seems that there is a slight difference between the two in terms of software, and enough so that I've read posts of people having issues when using at&t based stuff on their rogers phones.
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I've been here before with the vivid, skyrocket, and the one x. You can ignore anything I say but I HAVE dealt with this stuff before.
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So is it safe to say that you can flash the Stock Rom or Custom ROMs for T-Mobile T999 on Wind Mobile's T999V. And at most you lose Roaming and/or a few features?
I already see that there is one or two ROMs that are confirmed for multiple carriers.
A dedicated Canadian Forum is a great idea! There is so much information floating around out there with the multiple variations of the sgs3.
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I've been here before with the vivid, skyrocket, and the one x. You can ignore anything I say but I HAVE dealt with this stuff before.
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As a Rogers user (and relatively new to Android) it freaks the hell out of me to flash custom ROMs based on the AT&T version, because I'm sure I *will* lose tethering and the ability to turn off LTE.
That's the stupid thing - it'd be rather simple to have subforums dedicated to the canadian devices, because the software is different (not only the bloatware, but apparently some more stuff too) and the baseband is also different, which could lead to problems down the line, no?
TimeKillr said:
As a Rogers user (and relatively new to Android) it freaks the hell out of me to flash custom ROMs based on the AT&T version, because I'm sure I *will* lose tethering and the ability to turn off LTE.
That's the stupid thing - it'd be rather simple to have subforums dedicated to the canadian devices, because the software is different (not only the bloatware, but apparently some more stuff too) and the baseband is also different, which could lead to problems down the line, no?
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If a rom is done the right way you won't lose any functionality. You can't honestly believe that at&t users don't want those features. I prefer to build all my roms from a rogers base for the simple reason that it is less work for that functionality.
PS. Any rom dev should know better than to force a modem/radio/baseband change on their users.
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BlackDino said:
Sasktel, Bell, Rogers, Telus all have the AT&T version with tethering left in.
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That might be true but if you check your firmware versions, they aren't the same as AT&T's.
Also, I have flashed most of the international radio's on my older I9100 and never had a problem in Canada or US when travelling. They may not be customized for that country but they do work.
I PMd one of the mods with a link to this thread. There seems to be interest in a forum for Canadian carriers, so let's see if we can make it happen.
By the way thanks to everyone chiming in with their two cents. I am not a developer, and although I've been around xda a while, it was always as a user. I''ve written a guide or two on how to root and flash devices, but it was always based on other people's work. So I am learning all this as I go along.
I come from the desire z/g2 forums. G2 is t mobile, The desire z is run on multiple networks globally. Baseband are set by the phone, not the radio (I think that is the same thing as a modern?). On my Desire z running on Rogers, I flashed T-Mobile radios and international radios which worked on Rogers no problem.
Features of a rom are determined by the dev, if you don't like something, flash something else or restore your nandroid backup. Read the op and ask the dev if you are unsure about any features on a Rom.
I would think the only models that should be separated in forums are the international version, totally different processor and maybe Verizon cdma. From a sheer volume of users standpoint, further division is warranted. You think this is bad, wait until Verizon and At&t widely launch, this current setup will be complete chaos.
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Has anyone here tried the new root file for Verizon S8+
https://download.chainfire.eu/1080/...to-Root-dream2qltesq-dream2qltesq-smg955u.zip
It will only work with an unlocked bootloader. Since all US Snapdragon based S8's have a locked bootloader it useless.
So why has Chainfire made this at all if it does not work or will brick your phone? I should ask him but not sure he will answer.
photolarry said:
So why has Chainfire made this at all if it does not work or will brick your phone? I should ask him but not sure he will answer.
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photolarry said:
So why has Chainfire made this at all if it does not work or will brick your phone? I should ask him but not sure he will answer.
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He clearly states that it only works with an unlocked bootloader. If the snapdragon versions of the S8/S8+ had an unlocked bootloader it would work. Not sure why you could have an issue with him.
nrage23 said:
He clearly states that it only works with an unlocked bootloader. If the snapdragon versions of the S8/S8+ had an unlocked bootloader it would work. Not sure why you could have an issue with him.
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The U version isn't ever unlocked. Not with him. I'm just confused why it seems this would work on that model but it doesn't
If the bootloader ever gets unlocked by any means, it will work.
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If the bootloader ever gets unlocked by any means, it will work.
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You missed my point and question to him. Which is "U" model is LOCKED because it is all phones inside the USA that are distributed by all 4 major carriers. So there is no such thing as SM-G955U which is unlocked. Does not exist. Thus I wanna know why there is even a zip file which chainfire created since it cannot be used on any of these phones. And why would it "get unlocked"....it is done at the factory. Only way to "unlock" it is to use a root method like was done on S7, where it basically involves flashing an engineering boot image/kernel that has root. At some point, this probably will be made and then using same modified ODIN (PrinceComsy) would potentially be the solution.
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You missed my point and question to him. Which is "U" model is LOCKED because it is all phones inside the USA that are distributed by all 4 major carriers. So there is no such thing as SM-G955U which is unlocked. Does not exist. Thus I wanna know why there is even a zip file which chainfire created since it cannot be used on any of these phones. And why would it "get unlocked"....it is done at the factory. Only way to "unlock" it is to use a root method like was done on S7, where it basically involves flashing an engineering boot image/kernel that has root. At some point, this probably will be made and then using same modified ODIN (PrinceComsy) would potentially be the solution.
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I will try and clear up some confusion. All US snapdragon versions of the S8+ have the same model number SM-G955U. There is an "unlocked" SM-G955U version of the S8+ in the US. It is carrier unlocked not bootloader unlocked. Apparently the CSC file carries the carrier information in the firmware. Also the S7 was rooted but never bootloader unlocked. So you could use most root apps but you could not modify any system files. The root was achieved with an engineering kernel and was not very useful.(ie bad battery life, phone getting hot and unstable). You could however flash any US S7 to any carrier or even the Unlocked firmware.
But if you cannot flash even the csc, how do you gain root access when Odin basically does nothing. That's my question and point. Seems that if I stick with Galaxy phones that I'm never going to attain root again. Probably because they don't want risks of pay apps being misused. I have one app that refuses to even run if I have usb debugging on. Vendors are getting smarter about locking things down.
It's not Samsung's fault...it is Verizon, AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile. I can't even take my Verizon phone and change it to T-Mobile. That's ridiculous!
If LG lets it's consumers unlock there bootloader then why don't samsung? I'm selling my ccarrier unlocked s8+ and buying a unlocked g6. Screw this crap. I hope samsung goes bankrupt! SAMSUNG ALLOW US TO UNLOCK OUR BOOTLOADERS.
I wish my S8+ was rooted?
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It's not Samsung's fault...it is Verizon, AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile. I can't even take my Verizon phone and change it to T-Mobile. That's ridiculous!
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The reason you can't do this is the bands are different (I believe). Or, at least Verizon is CDMA while T-Mobile is GSM. I don't know much about the differences between CDMA & GSM, but I know that CDMA phones won't work on GSM networks & vice versa. That's why Verizon phones won't work on T-Mobile. Hopefully that (kinda) cleared it up for you.
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The reason you can't do this is the bands are different (I believe). Or, at least Verizon is CDMA while T-Mobile is GSM. I don't know much about the differences between CDMA & GSM, but I know that CDMA phones won't work on GSM networks & vice versa. That's why Verizon phones won't work on T-Mobile. Hopefully that (kinda) cleared it up for you.
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My goodness you could not be any more wrong..... That is no longer the case anymore. Verizon phones work on T-Mobile and all GSM carriers. I should know since I was with Verizon and I switched a while back but am now back on Verizon. Some phones from T-mobile won't work with Verizon but some do. It just depends on the phone and what bands it has. Like the S8 from T-Mobile will work on Verizon but an iPhone 7 from T-Mobile won't because it doesn't have CDMA bands. It's simple research
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My goodness you could not be any more wrong..... That is no longer the case anymore. Verizon phones work on T-Mobile and all GSM carriers. I should know since I was with Verizon and I switched a while back but am now back on Verizon. Some phones from T-mobile won't work with Verizon but some do. It just depends on the phone and what bands it has. Like the S8 from T-Mobile will work on Verizon but an iPhone 7 from T-Mobile won't because it doesn't have CDMA bands. It's simple research
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Really?? Man, I feel so stupid about that, sorry =/ I've been researching it, but all of what I've read pointed to what I said... thank you very much for correcting me ? it'll def help me in my journey to become a phone repair specialist! ? sorry people I might've confused.... I'm just an idiot - don't listen to me
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Really?? Man, I feel so stupid about that, sorry =/ I've been researching it, but all of what I've read pointed to what I said... thank you very much for correcting me it'll def help me in my journey to become a phone repair specialist! sorry people I might've confused.... I'm just an idiot - don't listen to me
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CDMA is only for 3G. With 4G, Verizon is using LTE GSM (same with AT&T, T-Mobile).
Verizon LTE covers over 98% of their network, but there are still some remote places where there is only CDMA coverage.
Verizon is moving away from CDMA and it will be retired by 2018.
So as long as you don't mind not having CDMA in a few places, any LTE GSM phone with Band 13 would work with Verizon.
Look at HTC U11, it doesn't have CDMA, but it's still advertised as "Verizon certified".
Sadly, the Internationals versions of S8/S8+ don't have band 13. But fortunately, all US versions have both bands 13 and CDMA support. That's why you can switch to any carrier as long as it's a US version.
mybabyloves said:
Really?? Man, I feel so stupid about that, sorry =/ I've been researching it, but all of what I've read pointed to what I said... thank you very much for correcting me it'll def help me in my journey to become a phone repair specialist! sorry people I might've confused.... I'm just an idiot - don't listen to me
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No worries mate. Just wanted to put that out there in case anyone become confused. I meant no disrespect
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neozen21 said:
CDMA is only for 3G. With 4G, Verizon is using LTE GSM (same with AT&T, T-Mobile).
Verizon LTE covers over 98% of their network, but there are still some remote places where there is only CDMA coverage.
Verizon is moving away from CDMA and it will be retired by 2018.
So as long as you don't mind not having CDMA in a few places, any LTE GSM phone with Band 13 would work with Verizon.
Look at HTC U11, it doesn't have CDMA, but it's still advertised as "Verizon certified".
Sadly, the Internationals versions of S8/S8+ don't have band 13. But fortunately, all US versions have both bands 13 and CDMA support. That's why you can switch to any carrier as long as it's a US version.
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My point exactly about the S8's. US variants are all the same no matter what carrier. All Google phones after the Nexus 6 are the same way. The Nexus 6 worked on all US carriers no matter where you got it from and it's like that all the way to the new Pixel phones. Where as iPhone's, just as an example, have different bands when it comes to different carriers. Unlocked, Verizon, and Sprint iPhone's have all bands both CDMA and GSM where as the GSM ones like those bought straight from T-Mobile or AT&T only have the GSM bands.
mybabyloves said:
Really?? Man, I feel so stupid about that, sorry =/ I've been researching it, but all of what I've read pointed to what I said... thank you very much for correcting me ? it'll def help me in my journey to become a phone repair specialist! ? sorry people I might've confused.... I'm just an idiot - don't listen to me
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You're NOT stupid! I had no idea either. I know that I tried to switch my Verizon S8+ to T-Mobile but it wouldn't recognize my IMEI so I just figured the two networks were different
I have a unlocked verizon(xfinity mobile) s8plus on tmobile right now.. The phone had no issues on setup to go on the tmobile network..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...root-g955u-g955u1-snapdragon-sampwnd-t3658911
So this has changed?