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I have been considering upgrading from vibrant to GS2, but since I so much enjoy my music on voodoo sound plus powerAmp setup in Vibrant, will it be a let down on GS2 because of inferior DAC? Those who switched from original galaxy s please comment.
rakeshchn said:
I have been considering upgrading from vibrant to GS2, but since I so much enjoy my music on voodoo sound plus powerAmp setup in Vibrant, will it be a let down on GS2 because of inferior DAC? Those who switched from original galaxy s please comment.
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Stock music app has an option for 5.1 surround sound which is very good. also i believe the sound card is yamaha brand.
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rakeshchn said:
I have been considering upgrading from vibrant to GS2, but since I so much enjoy my music on voodoo sound plus powerAmp setup in Vibrant, will it be a let down on GS2 because of inferior DAC? Those who switched from original galaxy s please comment.
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simple....are you an audiophile? I mean a true one. If the answer is yes, then you'll likely be let down because the Yamaha chip isn't as good as the Wolfson according to Supercurio. If the answer is no, then you'll likely not notice the difference
When I had my vibrant, my flac albums sounded absolutely luscious, and I don't get quite the same impression with the sgs2, even before I found out about the yamaha dac. However I left my vibrant like a year ago so this is hardly valid.. I think may have had supercurios sound fix on it too.
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Thanks for the replies. I won't call myself an audiophile, but once i had voodoo on, the sound from Poweramp with equalizer tweaked to my liking is very pleasing. I hope SG2 can provide at least 80% of the fidelity.
One more question. Any issues with A2DP streaming to Bluetooth headphones? Vibrant has lower quality over A2DP in spite of having BT 3.0
rakeshchn said:
Thanks for the replies. I won't call myself an audiophile, but once i had voodoo on, the sound from Poweramp with equalizer tweaked to my liking is very pleasing. I hope SG2 can provide at least 80% of the fidelity.
One more question. Any issues with A2DP streaming to Bluetooth headphones? Vibrant has lower quality over A2DP in spite of having BT 3.0
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Dont know about A2DP... but the best bet to answer your question is Supercurio. Hit him up on twitter he'll likely reply. Also if its straight up streaming to bluetooth head phones it completely bypasses the DAC see the following tweet
http://twitter.com/#!/supercurio/status/169484560827027456
Also.. Supercurio isn't able to pull off anything like voodoo sound on the yamaha DAC.. He did do something for the international/at&t version called Voodoo Louder which i believe only boost the output volume of the headphone jack. I don't know if its coming to our SGS2, but I would say its not likely
rakeshchn said:
I have been considering upgrading from vibrant to GS2, but since I so much enjoy my music on voodoo sound plus powerAmp setup in Vibrant, will it be a let down on GS2 because of inferior DAC? Those who switched from original galaxy s please comment.
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Try this ... its not voodoo but it really helps ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434834
poweramp sounds really good on the sgs 2 and with the latest update it just got better ...
Yeah its just as good. I like it alot
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What audio chip note 2 has? Will it support voodoo sound like other Galaxies?
lexus232 said:
What audio chip note 2 has? Will it support voodoo sound like other Galaxies?
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Wolfson, the same that S1 and S3 for example..
its confirmed
still no voodoo.from supercurio for the s3 like he promised.
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xiskillo said:
Wolfson, the same that S1 and S3 for example..
its confirmed
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No, its not the same of S1, its not that good, but better than the note 1
kersh said:
its not the same of S1, its not that good
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How pity, I Iove my SGS1 for its sound capabilities.
lexus232 said:
How pity, I Iove my SGS1 for its sound capabilities.
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Don't worry. As far as implemented functionality from Samsung and Android, they should be similar and infact I believe the loudspeaker amplifier seems more powerful in the new chipset (I am inferring through SGS3 specs as I believe its the same for Note 2). More importantly, it should be WAY superior to SGS2 and Note 1 as I find them absolutely useless with my powered headphones.
kersh said:
No, its not the same of S1, its not that good, but better than the note 1
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Source?
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Wolfson Micro WM1811 http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/audio_hubs/WM1811/
100dB SNR Class W Heapdhone amp output, ReTune DSP, 3x digital interface.
Like WM8994 in Galaxy S / Nexus S, except:
1x stereo DAC instead of 2x.
2x 2W Speaker amp instead of 2x 1W
Smaller and probably cheaper, same sound quality expected.
xiskillo said:
Source?
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Wolfson Micro WM1811 http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/audio_hubs/WM1811/
100dB SNR Class W Heapdhone amp output, ReTune DSP, 3x digital interface.
Like WM8994 in Galaxy S / Nexus S, except:
1x stereo DAC instead of 2x.
2x 2W Speaker amp instead of 2x 1W
Smaller and probably cheaper, same sound quality expected.
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Yup, thats what I meant. Thanks for getting the numbers. Unfortunately the stereo speaker output may not help as I believe Note 2 may have a mono speaker like the rest, pity!
Supercurio - Eagerly awaiting an update on this. Hope its coming soon as you tweeted.
People do overestimate the difference in sound quality between the sgs and other phones.
Yes, the chip in the sgs really shines with voodoo sound's amazing mechanics, but this isn't something you'll hear or can take advantage of with stock earbuds, dre or skullcandy headsets. You need at least an entry level hi fi setup or a decent set of headphones. Until you get to that point, you might as well just be using an eq.
I'm not trying to be condescending, but I think many people use a turbo and stuff it into their vw beetle and expect to go 300 kmh
Just ordered a note 2, and will be looking forward to test it beside my sgs!
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I have an sgs as well as the note2 now....
I own sony extra bass earphones they sound really awesome in the samsung galaxy S , just a little less in the Note2 but all the difference I see is of the bass ..the galaxy s pumps those beats quite well unlike the note2
And just fyi just throw the stock samsung earphones in the dustbin..they are worst like made in china nit china is to blame but its cheapass ! ( Sony made in Philippines)
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adytum said:
People do overestimate the difference in sound quality between the sgs and other phones.
Yes, the chip in the sgs really shines with voodoo sound's amazing mechanics, but this isn't something you'll hear or can take advantage of with stock earbuds, dre or skullcandy headsets. You need at least an entry level hi fi setup or a decent set of headphones. Until you get to that point, you might as well just be using an eq.
I'm not trying to be condescending, but I think many people use a turbo and stuff it into their vw beetle and expect to go 300 kmh
Just ordered a note 2, and will be looking forward to test it beside my sgs!
Sent from horseback.
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The chip in the SGS really did shine with a bit of Voodoo:
Youtube: watch?v=-c5XOTP77qs
It's really rare for a smartphone to be able to record in extreme environments like that. The Nokia Lumia 920 is another phone with similar capabilities, here's a comparison of that one with the HTC 8x at the same event:
Youtube: watch?v=svM5g_9539Y
Phones in general get the result of the HTC, including the SGS without the Voodoo fix. I Haven't really tried the new gen Samsung's in a location like this, but I know that the SGS3 sounds basically like the HTC above, because the microphone doesn't enable recording for loud environments in the software.
Sure, recording in loud environments isn't something you normally do, but, it's still nice to have the ability to do it.
Sorry for the "broken" youtube links, apparently I'm not old enough to post links...
So we now technically have voodoo for the note2 right? Since scoobydoo is basically voodoo?
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ars_92 said:
So we now technically have voodoo for the note2 right? Since scoobydoo is basically voodoo?
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For international users only from what I see. Which is disappointing.
Check out Pongsters latest red pill kernel. )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975938
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Awesome! Now we finally have voodoo like sound on our Note 2.
Couple of things missing in Siyah's implementation:
1. No volume slider hack so to keep digital volume max and tweaking analog one needs to be done through Stweaks app and the change happens after we change and hit "Apply" against realtime hack in voodoo sound app. This means, dynamic range is low in lower volume and noise floor high. Also means we wont get extended volume levels (0-63) instead of only 15 levels in default digital volume slider
2. No video recording DRC hack as in voodoo sound app (haven't tested, may be hidden but atleast no tweaking of DRC possible)
I prefer using voodoo sound app which is not yet detecting these kernels to be compatible with it to enjoy the above features.
Also I prefer the below kernel for this for CPU and GPU overclocking options in Stweaks app:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927852
Hope Supercurio adds support for these kernels atleast in his paid app.
so.......
I'm a n00b with all this, so can someone boil it down to a yes/no: Voodoo for Note 2? Sound quality on par with Galaxy 1?
I have Westones, not the usual earbuds, and the S1 is literally the best FLAC player I've ever owned. It's certainly a bit long in the tooth at this point, however, so I'm interested in upgrading but not willing to give up the Wolfson + Voodoo. I'm in the states, but I've got no problem buying an unlocked model from elsewhere if necessary.
Edit: Forgot to mention I'm tied to USCC (job pays for phone), not sure if that matters
caustic386 said:
I'm a n00b with all this, so can someone boil it down to a yes/no: Voodoo for Note 2? Sound quality on par with Galaxy 1?
I have Westones, not the usual earbuds, and the S1 is literally the best FLAC player I've ever owned. It's certainly a bit long in the tooth at this point, however, so I'm interested in upgrading but not willing to give up the Wolfson + Voodoo. I'm in the states, but I've got no problem buying an unlocked model from elsewhere if necessary.
Edit: Forgot to mention I'm tied to USCC (job pays for phone), not sure if that matters
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yes its the same ( but not totally ) with kernel like red pill and Perseus
but i don't think voodoo sound will come any time soon from supercurio
yahyoh said:
yes its the same ( but not totally ) with kernel like red pill and Perseus
but i don't think voodoo sound will come any time soon from supercurio
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Thank you very much. Is scoobydoo on par with voodoo?
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Thank you very much. Is scoobydoo on par with voodoo?
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This is a question which im dying to know the answer too lol.
Hi, I'm using Note 2 and I'm looking for a bluetooth headphone that supports APT-X with decent sound quality on both voice call and music, any suggestions?
The Samsung HS3000 is fantastic. Great audio quality for music (especially with Apt-X), and the best sound quality for phone calls I've experienced (I've had top end Plantronics, Jabra, etc. in the past). The earbuds that come with it are not very good, but if you replace them with good ones (I use Yuin PK3) you are in for a treat. And it is only $30.
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The Samsung HS3000 is fantastic. Great audio quality for music (especially with Apt-X), and the best sound quality for phone calls I've experienced (I've had top end Plantronics, Jabra, etc. in the past). The earbuds that come with it are not very good, but if you replace them with good ones (I use Yuin PK3) you are in for a treat. And it is only $30.
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Thanks but I don't think this HS3000 supports APT-X
FYI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apt-X
clubmajestyk said:
Thanks but I don't think this HS3000 supports APT-X
Yes, it does. I have one. Moreover, it has the CSR Apt-X logo on the package, and it is listed as supporting it on the Samsung website, as well as CSR's.
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Thanks but I don't think this HS3000 supports APT-X
FYI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apt-X
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It does,
FYI: http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/...ECXME-features?subsubtype=bluetooth-solutions
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It does,
FYI: http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/...ECXME-features?subsubtype=bluetooth-solutions
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shempmalone said:
clubmajestyk said:
Thanks but I don't think this HS3000 supports APT-X
Yes, it does. I have one. Moreover, it has the CSR Apt-X logo on the package, and it is listed as supporting it on the Samsung website, as well as CSR's.
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thanks guys for the update :good:
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Hi I just bought one of these off of eBay and I was just curious about the audio quality. I know they have the same Wolson DAC as the Galaxy S/Captivate but does it sound good? Thanks guys!
KosanRio said:
Hi I just bought one of these off of eBay and I was just curious about the audio quality. I know they have the same Wolson DAC as the Galaxy S/Captivate but does it sound good? Thanks guys!
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with voodoo it's simply awesome!
soadzoor said:
with voodoo it's simply awesome!
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Woah I thought Voodoo audio didn't work on Tegra devices...
This phone just got 10x better.
Maybe a wait a little bit on that Note 3...
KosanRio said:
Woah I thought Voodoo audio didn't work on Tegra devices...
This phone just got 10x better.
Maybe a wait a little bit on that Note 3...
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it needs of course a custom kernel which supports it,but I assure you it works and it works great!
Hey guys,
maybe some of u can help me.
Im interested in the sound/audio/music quality of the OP3 in compination with headphones.
I know the quality of a Samsung S2 and S4 (both not with Wolfson chip) and i know the S3 and S5 have a variety with a Wolfson chip (never heared them).
Many people say they can hear a different between them.
Maybe some of you know the difference between them and the OP3? Or can compare?
I think about buying a OP3 and i'm really interested in the sound quality with headphones.
Thanks for any answeres and sry for my english
My OnePlus 3 arrived today and I think the quality with headphones is good. Can't hear any difference between my old Nexus 5 and the OP3 both sound good
I doing the return process for that reason, tottally disapointed with the audio quality using headphones
nexus 5 has terrible speaker
knince said:
nexus 5 has terrible speaker
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They are talking about quality of audio on headphones not the speaker.
Shamu by TT
ralph78 said:
They are talking about quality of audio on headphones not the speaker.
Shamu by TT
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got it lol
ichlernungern said:
Hey guys,
maybe some of u can help me.
Im interested in the sound/audio/music quality of the OP3 in compination with headphones.
I know the quality of a Samsung S2 and S4 (both not with Wolfson chip) and i know the S3 and S5 have a variety with a Wolfson chip (never heared them).
Many people say they can hear a different between them.
Maybe some of you know the difference between them and the OP3? Or can compare?
I think about buying a OP3 and i'm really interested in the sound quality with headphones.
Thanks for any answeres and sry for my english
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I believe the audio solution is the same as for all SD820 processors. Built-in 24bit 96khz support. Nothing out of the ordinary and not high-end but good enough for Spotify Premium and stored Flacs etc.
For Premium Audio you are better off adding an outboard DAC such as from Audioquest (Dragonfly) or Meridian Explorer. Built-in ad-hoc sound processors are almost always a compromise.
A few manufacturer, LG and HTC spring to mind, have better, separate built in DAC's and amplifiers which may suit you better if you don't want to shell out for separate ones.
Having said all this, I use an S7Edge (Exynos version) which, like the Snapdragon uses propriatory decoding and I am happy with it for music on the move. (I also use a full Cyrus home system and Grado Headphones for indoor listening to give some perspective).
The headphone quality w/ Bose QC25 is good and a LOT better than the 6P (stock) in my opinion. It still doesn't beat the iPhone 6s+ in loudness and overall sound quality using Spotify or Apple Music. For most people it's good enough and for others Viper should help a ton but for audiophiles and stock out of the box, it's not going to cut it.
latech4832 said:
I doing the return process for that reason, tottally disapointed with the audio quality using headphones
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How? at amazon? bcoz they don't support return for mobile phones in India
I'm coming from iPhone 6s and the only thing that I don't like at this device is the sound quality,external and headphones both.
Hope we can fix it a bit with viper
micr0g said:
I'm coming from iPhone 6s and the only thing that I don't like at this device is the sound quality,external and headphones both.
Hope we can fix it a bit with viper
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My dad has a 6S Plus and every android device (flagships only) I used had much much better quality with V4A installed. Not sure about OP3 though. Yet to test properly.
micr0g said:
I'm coming from iPhone 6s and the only thing that I don't like at this device is the sound quality,external and headphones both.
Hope we can fix it a bit with viper
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I read that in order to install Viper one has to:
"Setup your Device
For Samsung devices,
1. Try install V4A as user app instead of system app if the latter failed doesn’t work.
2. Use Normal Mode and select V4A FX in Settings>Sound>Music Effects.
3. If don’t work, use another player rather than Samsung stock Music player.
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1. ROOT your device.
2. Install busybox if doesn’t come with root.
3. Modify build.prop (Thanks [email protected])
a. Open up /system/build.prop in text editor using any file explorer with root access.
b. Change the line (If you can’t find these lines, skip this step.)
– “Ipa.decode=true” to “lpa.decode=false”
– “tunnel.decode=true” to “tunnel.decode=false”
– “lpa.use-stagefright=true” to “lpa.use-stagefright=false”"
do you know of any other good app to improve the audio quality of the op3 not needing to the root trick?
I find op3 audio rather flat.
Thanks
Could somebody please check if the google play music app offers you the equalizer option in its settings menu? My LG G4 does not and it is one of the (many) things I hate about it
I'm getting really good and rich sound when I use my Sony headphones and when I hook it up to my car stereo it has better sound than my iPhone really impressed with the sound...
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vdundgren said:
do you know of any other good app to improve the audio quality of the op3 not needing to the root trick?
I find op3 audio rather flat.
Thanks
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Viper is by far ur best bet. Using it myself and it improved the sound a lot. Everything else would just be an equalizer since ab adequate driver can't be installed without root.
gusano38 said:
Could somebody please check if the google play music app offers you the equalizer option in its settings menu? My LG G4 does not and it is one of the (many) things I hate about it
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it does indeed! Only way right now I can stand the poor audio quality... Hopefully V4A will work soon on OP3...
I bet some here confuse "audio quality" with "loud" or/and "much bass *LOL*
The audio quality on this device (headphone jack) IS very good, period.
If you want louder signal (and ruin your ears) or more bass (for your lame nts-nts-nts music), install V4A or something like that...
Pocketnow's measurements:
http://pocketnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/OnePlus-3-Audio-Stats.jpg
hasenbein1966 said:
I bet some here confuse "audio quality" with "loud" or/and "much bass *LOL*
The audio quality on this device (headphone jack) IS very good, period.
If you want louder signal (and ruin your ears) or more bass (for your lame nts-nts-nts music), install V4A or something like that...
Pocketnow's measurements:
http://pocketnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/OnePlus-3-Audio-Stats.jpg
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Agree, limitations are hardware based and no player will improve that. For audiophiles ... use an outboard dac/headphone amplifier.