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HTC to unveil new Mango phone on 1st September

Event announced for 1 September. Its on techradar but I'm not allowed to post links here as not made enough posts.
I'm dure for upgrade now too, I hope they have one with a decent screen, battery life and of course beats dr dre sounds integrated.

Here you go:
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...ws-phone-mango-handsets-on-1-september-995462

Eternity....

the beats by dre is probably a software thing rather than hardware which could be fixed by an update to the sound enhancer.

eric12341 said:
the beats by dre is probably a software thing rather than hardware which could be fixed by an update to the sound enhancer.
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From what I see, Beats is hardware speakers & headphones, not software only (may include software too). This isn't to say that software couldn't help, but the current HTC WP7 devices have pretty poor speaker, at least in my opinion. My old T-Mobile TP2, T-Mobile Dash, & AT&T Tilt had much better sound quality.
Beats by Dr. Dre

Can't wait to see all the new Mangofied devices coming out this Fall. I'm most looking forward to what Nokia has up its sleeve since I think they don't have too long before they need to release their version of a swam song. HTC always makes good phones though, so if I feel the need to supplement my Dell Venue Pro I'll check out their offerings.

drkfngthdragnlrd said:
From what I see, Beats is hardware speakers & headphones, not software only (may include software too). This isn't to say that software couldn't help, but the current HTC WP7 devices have pretty poor speaker, at least in my opinion. My old T-Mobile TP2, T-Mobile Dash, & AT&T Tilt had much better sound quality.
Beats by Dr. Dre
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It's both, but it currently only works with headphones so the speakers will still be crappy (I have an Envy 14 Beats). The software controls the amount of Bass it amplifies in like an Equaliser.
Also, I accidently clicked thanks instead of quote, so you get a free +1 to your thanks meter

brummiesteven said:
It's both, but it currently only works with headphones so the speakers will still be crappy (I have an Envy 14 Beats). The software controls the amount of Bass it amplifies in like an Equaliser.
Also, I accidently clicked thanks instead of quote, so you get a free +1 to your thanks meter
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Thanks for that additional information & the accidental "thank," lol.

drkfngthdragnlrd said:
Thanks for that additional information & the accidental "thank," lol.
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Just to add, to anyone reading this. It might not necessarily be limited to the headphone jack, that's just how it is on HP Envy's.
HTC could decide to add a Beats Speaker aswell... but Beats technology is VERY expensive, the only speaker they have at the moment is the Beat Box which is #300+ (That's pounds, yes my Envy is a US import and I have no pound sign ), Having said all this, HTC do have a controlling share now.
And yes, the difference is amazing but I do use Beats Solos... Not sure how it would sound with standard headphones.

drkfngthdragnlrd said:
From what I see, Beats is hardware speakers & headphones, not software only (may include software too). This isn't to say that software couldn't help, but the current HTC WP7 devices have pretty poor speaker, at least in my opinion. My old T-Mobile TP2, T-Mobile Dash, & AT&T Tilt had much better sound quality.
Beats by Dr. Dre
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They have poor sound period.

Nokia un imo has the best speakers hands down. Matter a fact one of the phones they unveiled today is said to be the best sounding smrtphome to date I believe its the Nokia 800. Wish it was a wp7 device and not Symbian.
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makoute said:
They have poor sound period.
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this is probably a race motivated statement as u probably can't stand that an African American male invented what's possibly the greatest sound ever produced.

eric12341 said:
this is probably a race motivated statement as u probably can't stand that an African American male invented what's possibly the greatest sound ever produced.
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I believe he was talking about HTC Device, not Beats. If that's the case, he's correct. The HTC HD7 has terrible sound from its built in speakers. The TP2 I used to have had much better sound. Still not great, but at least I could hear it.
PS: Even if he's talking about Beats. What makes this a "race motivated statement?" He never used any racist/derogatory comment towards the creator. He just stated his opinion of "something" having poor sound quality. It's these kind of statement you post that get you in trouble with the mods of this forum. Please, just try to not make posts like this anymore. You'll be doing yourself a favor.

drkfngthdragnlrd said:
I believe he was talking about HTC Device, not Beats. If that's the case, he's correct. The HTC HD7 has terrible sound from its built in speakers. The TP2 I used to have had much better sound. Still not great, but at least I could hear it.
PS: Even if he's talking about Beats. What makes this a "race motivated statement?" He never used any racist/derogatory comment towards the creator. He just stated his opinion of "something" having poor sound quality. It's these kind of statement you post that get you in trouble with the mods of this forum. Please, just try to not make posts like this anymore. You'll be doing yourself a favor.
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he could've been more specific in his reply. these speakers are usually only intended for things such as phone calls, alarms, and podcasts/apps not for hardcore things like music and movies, that's how u blow them out. also the SRS enhancement does enhance the sound from the speakers to a degree.

eric12341 said:
he could've been more specific in his reply. these speakers are usually only intended for things such as phone calls, alarms, and podcasts/apps not for hardcore things like music and movies, that's how u blow them out. also the SRS enhancement does enhance the sound from the speakers to a degree.
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I agree, that is what the speakers are designed for, but why put them in a Phone that is meant to be a Media/Social Networking phone. They're fine for dumbphones like the Motorola RAZR, but WP7 is smartphone & is marketed as a media phone. It's essentially a Zune Phone with additional functionality. I may hate the iPhone, but must admit it has amazing sound even on the built in speaker(s). I mean, even some dumbphones like the Nokia Music Express has much better sound quality. We pay good money for these phones, whether they're Android/WP7/iPhone/what ever, they should give us some quality for that money.

Oh, & while we're at it. include a $5 FM antenna in the device so we aren't restricted to using wired headphones to listen to FM radio, granted I'd never use it as I don't listen to music on the radio, but still. Having FM Radio & the sound enhancement of HTC Sound Enhancer restricted to wire headsets/phones is stupid IMO. I mean come on, this is the day of wireless technology such a BT.

drkfngthdragnlrd said:
I agree, that is what the speakers are designed for, but why put them in a Phone that is meant to be a Media/Social Networking phone. They're fine for dumbphones like the Motorola RAZR, but WP7 is smartphone & is marketed as a media phone. It's essentially a Zune Phone with additional functionality. I may hate the iPhone, but must admit it has amazing sound even on the built in speaker(s). I mean, even some dumbphones like the Nokia Music Express has much better sound quality. We pay good money for these phones, whether they're Android/WP7/iPhone/what ever, they should give us some quality for that money.
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the speaker in my arrive sounds tons better than the iPhone. and the Nokia music express is actually a Symbian smartphone, so of course it's gotta have a great speaker since its built for music.

eric12341 said:
the speaker in my arrive sounds tons better than the iPhone. and the Nokia music express is actually a Symbian smartphone, so of course it's gotta have a great speaker since its built for music.
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I'll have to take your word for it, never heard the Arrive's sound quality. I have a HD7. I wouldn't call the music express a smartphone, yes it has Symbian, but an older version of it that's lacking many features of a true smartphone. The Nokia Nuron now, is another story. My room mates have had both & the Nuron is much better & has great sound quality as well.

drkfngthdragnlrd said:
Oh, & while we're at it. include a $5 FM antenna in the device so we aren't restricted to using wired headphones to listen to FM radio, granted I'd never use it as I don't listen to music on the radio, but still. Having FM Radio & the sound enhancement of HTC Sound Enhancer restricted to wire headsets/phones is stupid IMO. I mean come on, this is the day of wireless technology such a BT.
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the SRS enhancement within the sound enhancer works without headphones and there are many radio apps that allow listening to local radio in more superior digital audio quality rather than analog which is what's found on FM Radio.

eric12341 said:
the SRS enhancement within the sound enhancer works without headphones and there are many radio apps that allow listening to local radio in more superior digital audio quality rather than analog which is what's found on FM Radio.
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Some of Sound Enhancement works w/o, but the main feature with the most effect does not & never has, even in WinMo. Do those radio apps work without headphones & if so, are they using the FM Receiver or some kind of Data Connection thing? If they aren't working without headphones & not using the FM receiver, than how does this relate to my antenna comment? That'd be an Apples & Oranges thing.

Audio Chip

Anyone know who makes the chip on this? I'd like to know if it sounds good. I heard the S4 has the Wolfson ones and it sounds incredible. I'm curious how this compares.

SPtheALIEN said:
Anyone know who makes the chip on this? I'd like to know if it sounds good. I heard the S4 has the Wolfson ones and it sounds incredible. I'm curious how this compares.
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This phone uses the integrated audio codec of S4, WCD9310.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/632804/wolfson-wm1811-vs-qualcomm-wcd9310-on-the-galaxy-s3
TL;DR: The Wolfson is better, but using audio mods with ROMs can improve the quality very much.

ryude said:
This phone uses the integrated audio codec of S4, WCD9310.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/632804/wolfson-wm1811-vs-qualcomm-wcd9310-on-the-galaxy-s3
TL;DR: The Wolfson is better, but using audio mods with ROMs can improve the quality very much.
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Thanks for the info. Do you have any audio mode you recommend?

SPtheALIEN said:
Thanks for the info. Do you have any audio mode you recommend?
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I haven't used any yet, but I'm pretty happy with the way it sounds out of the box. I have Sennheiser HD428s and the sound is quite pleasant.

NEED Help!!! Nexus 5 Microphone Earbuds

So im thinking to buy Sennheiser MM 50 IP but im currently dont know if its working with my nexus 5 (mostly about the microphone)
I need some help, thank you.

They work fine and sound great. I have them
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Ben36 said:
They work fine and sound great. I have them
Sent from my Xperia z5 using Tapatalk
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So no problem when calling people with microphone (low sound quality etc.) ?
And do you recommend anything else with Mic. for nexus 5?

Seriously? Noone? ...

Don't have that pair, but the ones that came with my iPhone work well enough. The sound quality is crappy, but what can you expect from an Apple product. /shrug
By crappy sound I mean the music and people's voices as I hear them, the mic works well from what I'm told. Music and all sounds crappy on these things regardless of what I plug them into.

snives said:
Don't have that pair, but the ones that came with my iPhone work well enough. The sound quality is crappy, but what can you expect from an Apple product. /shrug
By crappy sound I mean the music and people's voices as I hear them, the mic works well from what I'm told. Music and all sounds crappy on these things regardless of what I plug them into.
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Talking about new i phone 5-6 buds? thats werid i though they are good, btw a lot of ppl complaining about the microphone of that one (not working) im confused now lol

INeedThisNow said:
So no problem when calling people with microphone (low sound quality etc.) ?
And do you recommend anything else with Mic. for nexus 5?
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I've never had any problems
Sent from my Xperia z5 using Tapatalk

INeedThisNow said:
Seriously? Noone? ...
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I use Sony MDR-XB50AP's and as the name suggests, it's made to work with pretty much every Android device. Great SQ in general and if you don't mind some quality bass you'll love them. They retail for lower than those Sennheisers.

Xiaomi piston 3 are best and they cost 12$ from china

FooBazza said:
I use Sony MDR-XB50AP's and as the name suggests, it's made to work with pretty much every Android device. Great SQ in general and if you don't mind some quality bass you'll love them. They retail for lower than those Sennheisers.
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So you sure no problems with Nexus 5 huh ? microphone and everything quality etc... ?
Because im gonna buy them right away!

INeedThisNow said:
So you sure no problems with Nexus 5 huh ? microphone and everything quality etc... ?
Because im gonna buy them right away!
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I've been using them since February and nope haven't noticed any issues besides V4A or AudioFX bugs but those have nothing to do with the headset themselves.

FooBazza said:
I've been using them since February and nope haven't noticed any issues besides V4A or AudioFX bugs but those have nothing to do with the headset themselves.
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WOW MAN Thank you so much!!! I bought them today and they are amazing! Crazy bass and SQ!
Also the Microphone works Great with Nexus 5 (And Button for Answer Calls + Play/Pause works with no problem)
Thank you for the advice again! :good:

Sound quality / chip

Hey guys,
maybe some of u can help me.
Im interested in the sound/audio/music quality of the OP3 in compination with headphones.
I know the quality of a Samsung S2 and S4 (both not with Wolfson chip) and i know the S3 and S5 have a variety with a Wolfson chip (never heared them).
Many people say they can hear a different between them.
Maybe some of you know the difference between them and the OP3? Or can compare?
I think about buying a OP3 and i'm really interested in the sound quality with headphones.
Thanks for any answeres and sry for my english

My OnePlus 3 arrived today and I think the quality with headphones is good. Can't hear any difference between my old Nexus 5 and the OP3 both sound good

I doing the return process for that reason, tottally disapointed with the audio quality using headphones

nexus 5 has terrible speaker

knince said:
nexus 5 has terrible speaker
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They are talking about quality of audio on headphones not the speaker.
Shamu by TT

ralph78 said:
They are talking about quality of audio on headphones not the speaker.
Shamu by TT
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got it lol

ichlernungern said:
Hey guys,
maybe some of u can help me.
Im interested in the sound/audio/music quality of the OP3 in compination with headphones.
I know the quality of a Samsung S2 and S4 (both not with Wolfson chip) and i know the S3 and S5 have a variety with a Wolfson chip (never heared them).
Many people say they can hear a different between them.
Maybe some of you know the difference between them and the OP3? Or can compare?
I think about buying a OP3 and i'm really interested in the sound quality with headphones.
Thanks for any answeres and sry for my english
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I believe the audio solution is the same as for all SD820 processors. Built-in 24bit 96khz support. Nothing out of the ordinary and not high-end but good enough for Spotify Premium and stored Flacs etc.
For Premium Audio you are better off adding an outboard DAC such as from Audioquest (Dragonfly) or Meridian Explorer. Built-in ad-hoc sound processors are almost always a compromise.
A few manufacturer, LG and HTC spring to mind, have better, separate built in DAC's and amplifiers which may suit you better if you don't want to shell out for separate ones.
Having said all this, I use an S7Edge (Exynos version) which, like the Snapdragon uses propriatory decoding and I am happy with it for music on the move. (I also use a full Cyrus home system and Grado Headphones for indoor listening to give some perspective).

The headphone quality w/ Bose QC25 is good and a LOT better than the 6P (stock) in my opinion. It still doesn't beat the iPhone 6s+ in loudness and overall sound quality using Spotify or Apple Music. For most people it's good enough and for others Viper should help a ton but for audiophiles and stock out of the box, it's not going to cut it.

latech4832 said:
I doing the return process for that reason, tottally disapointed with the audio quality using headphones
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How? at amazon? bcoz they don't support return for mobile phones in India

I'm coming from iPhone 6s and the only thing that I don't like at this device is the sound quality,external and headphones both.
Hope we can fix it a bit with viper

micr0g said:
I'm coming from iPhone 6s and the only thing that I don't like at this device is the sound quality,external and headphones both.
Hope we can fix it a bit with viper
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My dad has a 6S Plus and every android device (flagships only) I used had much much better quality with V4A installed. Not sure about OP3 though. Yet to test properly.

micr0g said:
I'm coming from iPhone 6s and the only thing that I don't like at this device is the sound quality,external and headphones both.
Hope we can fix it a bit with viper
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I read that in order to install Viper one has to:
"Setup your Device
For Samsung devices,
1. Try install V4A as user app instead of system app if the latter failed doesn’t work.
2. Use Normal Mode and select V4A FX in Settings>Sound>Music Effects.
3. If don’t work, use another player rather than Samsung stock Music player.
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1. ROOT your device.
2. Install busybox if doesn’t come with root.
3. Modify build.prop (Thanks [email protected])
a. Open up /system/build.prop in text editor using any file explorer with root access.
b. Change the line (If you can’t find these lines, skip this step.)
– “Ipa.decode=true” to “lpa.decode=false”
– “tunnel.decode=true” to “tunnel.decode=false”
– “lpa.use-stagefright=true” to “lpa.use-stagefright=false”"
do you know of any other good app to improve the audio quality of the op3 not needing to the root trick?
I find op3 audio rather flat.
Thanks

Could somebody please check if the google play music app offers you the equalizer option in its settings menu? My LG G4 does not and it is one of the (many) things I hate about it

I'm getting really good and rich sound when I use my Sony headphones and when I hook it up to my car stereo it has better sound than my iPhone really impressed with the sound...
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vdundgren said:
do you know of any other good app to improve the audio quality of the op3 not needing to the root trick?
I find op3 audio rather flat.
Thanks
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Viper is by far ur best bet. Using it myself and it improved the sound a lot. Everything else would just be an equalizer since ab adequate driver can't be installed without root.

gusano38 said:
Could somebody please check if the google play music app offers you the equalizer option in its settings menu? My LG G4 does not and it is one of the (many) things I hate about it
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it does indeed! Only way right now I can stand the poor audio quality... Hopefully V4A will work soon on OP3...

I bet some here confuse "audio quality" with "loud" or/and "much bass *LOL*
The audio quality on this device (headphone jack) IS very good, period.
If you want louder signal (and ruin your ears) or more bass (for your lame nts-nts-nts music), install V4A or something like that...
Pocketnow's measurements:
http://pocketnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/OnePlus-3-Audio-Stats.jpg

hasenbein1966 said:
I bet some here confuse "audio quality" with "loud" or/and "much bass *LOL*
The audio quality on this device (headphone jack) IS very good, period.
If you want louder signal (and ruin your ears) or more bass (for your lame nts-nts-nts music), install V4A or something like that...
Pocketnow's measurements:
http://pocketnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/OnePlus-3-Audio-Stats.jpg
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Agree, limitations are hardware based and no player will improve that. For audiophiles ... use an outboard dac/headphone amplifier.

Make the OnePlus 3 apt-x compatible

Hello !
I have a good apt-x pair of headphones and an apt-x compatible phone for the time being. I thought about buying the OP3(T) but I'd like not to loose this funtionality.
That's why I thougt I could buy an apt-x transmitter and plug it to the jack, in order to have apt-x !
What if i also buy an external DAC and plug the transmitter to it ? Would it work, does it make sense?
So overall, do you think it is a good option to do like that ? Do you have something better ? Or do you think that what I am saying is completely dumb ?
Thanks !

Does apt-x make such a difference that it is worth the effort?

lekronop said:
Does apt-x make such a difference that it is worth the effort?
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Imo it doesn't if all you do is audio listening. But then again, I reverted back to wired cause even aptx still sucks.
On the other hand, latency response is noticeably better, so in those quite rare instances where I want to watch a movie (from tv mostly) via bt, aptx helps. I mean, without aptx, same content would be unwatchable due to audio lag.

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Imo it doesn't if all you do is audio listening. But then again, I reverted back to wired cause even aptx still sucks.
On the other hand, latency response is noticeably better, so in those quite rare instances where I want to watch a movie (from tv mostly) via bt, aptx helps. I mean, without aptx, same content would be unwatchable due to audio lag.
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Ah okay, never thought about the latency of bt cause whenever i watch a movie over external speakers i just use aux since the speakers are right next to the tv.

Eventually, I'm working on an apt-x support for a while without success... A lot of phones provide apt-x functionality without hw support.. It's a sw solution, but I didn't find the method to load the closed source codec like BlueZ. If I found working libraries from other phone, I'll let you know...

I swapped from my Xperia Z2 (with apt-x) to my Oneplus 3 and the only device I have that was capable of receiving apt-x Bluetooth audio is my car receiver. I noticed no difference.
Maybe car audio is a poor test because, despite my custom in-car setup with high quality receiver, amp and speakers, the car is very noisy, so some differences are lost to exhuast/wind/tyre/road noise.

lekronop said:
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Well, to be honest, if you have a great pair of headphones (not necessarily ultra high end, just mid-high headphones) that are compatible, you can hear the difference, it's a question of details imo. And low latency is definitely the first thing you notice. But no matter for music obviously. Is it a deal breaker? Well, I'm asking myself, I might reconsider the Apt-x necessity.
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Eventually, I'm working on an apt-x support for a while without success... A lot of phones provide apt-x functionality without hw support.. It's a sw solution, but I didn't find the method to load the closed source codec like BlueZ. If I found working libraries from other phone, I'll let you know...
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Really interested in that if you find something, but as long as it is a protected technology, it's a hard task that you try to achieve :/
kcajjones said:
I swapped from my Xperia Z2 (with apt-x) to my Oneplus 3 and the only device I have that was capable of receiving apt-x Bluetooth audio is my car receiver. I noticed no difference.
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Thanks for this feedback, but I'm not surprised that in a car the sound is the same, for the reason you told

Hi,
I've really good news... I think, I've found a perfect device to make OP3 apt-x supported...
Unfortunately, my apt-x enabled headset will be my x-mas present, so I'm not 100% sure... I need to test it... Stay tuned...
EDIT: it's working, I've aptx
12-16 23:55:42.482 1462 1606 I bt_btif_media: btif_a2dp_encoder_init Selected Codec aptX

care to share how you did that?

iCstyle said:
care to share how you did that?
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It's working on cm14.1, maybe it could work on N as well... It won't work on 6.0.1 based roms... You need 2 libraries from Moto-Z...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/themes/mod-aptx-codec-t3521228

Wow. I mean, really?
Thank you so much for sharing, I hope it can work with the Snap dragon 821 as the OP3 is no longer available, but anyway, I could try to buy an original OP3 just for that.
Awesome, thank you

ElDonTheo said:
Wow. I mean, really?
Thank you so much for sharing, I hope it can work with the Snap dragon 821 as the OP3 is no longer available, but anyway, I could try to buy an original OP3 just for that.
Awesome, thank you
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There's a really good chance to make it working with op3t as well...