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[Q] ENG S-OFF Required ?

Ive rooted my phone and done the radio-S-OFF as also installed a cooked rom. My question is, do I need to have ENG-S-OFF or not ?
What can you do with ENG-S-OFF that you cannot do with SHIP-S-OFF ?

It allows you to flash partitions with fastboot.

leppie said:
It allows you to flash partitions with fastboot.
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So with out it I can still flash ROMs and radios etc ?

5haddex said:
So with out it I can still flash ROMs and radios etc ?
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ROMS - YES
Radio - NO

silashack said:
ROMS - YES
Radio - NO
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Cool thanks for the help..

Same problem here,how to get from ship s-off to eng s-off or radio s-off ?
sent from my DHD

If you look in the dev section, you'll find 2 threads giving you 1 click tools to get eng and / or radio s-off (posted and created by jkoljo)....
be sure to read the guide to understand the risks

I allready used one click tool,still have ship s-off
sent from my DHD

then if you want Radio S-off, use the Radio S-off & SuperCID 1 click tool

paulus_01 said:
then if you want Radio S-off, use the Radio S-off & SuperCID 1 click tool
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The opposite, he wants ENG S-OFF.

ENG SPL or ENG S-off is the same as radio s-off, there is not extra functionality, infact on the classic desire we can modify the partition table with just bootloader s-off

AndroHero said:
ENG SPL or ENG S-off is the same as radio s-off, there is not extra functionality, infact on the classic desire we can modify the partition table with just bootloader s-off
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You are mistaken. ENG S-OFF is not Radio S-OFF. Both provide S-OFF, but only ENG S-OFF will allow remote fastboot flashing.

leppie said:
You are mistaken. ENG S-OFF is not Radio S-OFF. Both provide S-OFF, but only ENG S-OFF will allow remote fastboot flashing.
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you mean the fastboot flash command? can we not do that on the DHD?? we can on the classic desire

AndroHero said:
you mean the fastboot flash command? can we not do that on the DHD?? we can on the classic desire
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You can, but only with the ENG hboot. The problem is that if anything goes wrong when flashing hboot, you have a brick (unless you manage to reflash it successfully before rebooting).

leppie said:
You can, but only with the ENG hboot. The problem is that if anything goes wrong when flashing hboot, you have a brick (unless you manage to reflash it successfully before rebooting).
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yeah i understand that, but on the other hand its safer to flash a radio from fastboot rather than recovery isnt it? so its a double edged sword

AndroHero said:
yeah i understand that, but on the other hand its safer to flash a radio from fastboot rather than recovery isnt it? so its a double edged sword
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I can't comment of that, never have had the need to reflash the radio

leppie said:
I can't comment of that, never have had the need to reflash the radio
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you probably will when GB is released for the DHD, the eclair radio's didnt work well with froyo when that was released on the desire...... i'm going to stick with the radio s-off for now anyway, thanks for clarifying the diffence tho .... i feel like a noob again

[HBOOT] HBOOT update for EU users who's having problem with RUU

Well as you can see I updated my wildfire S 2 or 3 days ago with OTA, so now when ever I try to flash the RUU from htcdev.com it fails be because "I Have a newer ROM version [ERROR 191]"
so I extracted the Zip file from the RUU and flashed from SDcard and it worked !
WARNING THIS IS ONLY FOR EU UNLOCKED FOLLOW THIS GUIDE AT YOUR OWEN RESPONSIBILITY
1- Moderator Edit link removed Multiupload is not supported as a file host site on XDA
2-Copy it to your Sdcard
3-Shutdown the phone
4-Start into Bootloader (Volume down + power)
5-Wait for it to Load the Zip file
6-chose yes (volume up)
And your done
now reboot and Delete the Zip file from Sdcard

I have an EU WFS, but getting the 171 error, will this help?

Two questions for you
Gig11gs said:
Well as you can see I updated my wildfire S 2 or 3 days ago with OTA, so now when ever I try to flash the RUU from htcdev.com it fails be because "I Have a newer ROM version [ERROR 191]"
so I extracted the Zip file from the RUU and flashed from SDcard and it worked !
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1. Do you mean that you upgraded to 2.3.5 a couple days ago and that's why it won't flash the RUU? I was assuming I got ERROR 191 because I hadn't upgraded to 2.3.5 yet.
2. Were you getting the exact same message with the error code?
ERROR [191] ROM IS NOT SUPPORTED
Your ROM Version is not currently supported, but there will be an update soon that will be supported. You will receive a notification to update your phone to the latest ROM code.
After you have updated, please run the RUU again to upgrade your HBOOT to unlock your phone. We apologize for the inconvenience.​
Incidentally, the part number for my phone is the same as the generic EU phone: PG76100 so your method of installing the ROM should work the same.
Update:
I got through the HBOOT update using the tip posted in this thread. It worked like a charm, so apparently my 2.3.3 Asia ROM wasn't the problem.
So I want to say thanks for the trick also! Tomorrow I'll finish the unlock process tomorrow as it's already after 10:30 PM here.

So unlocked in this case means that only will work with a phone which is S-OFF?

breaky9973 said:
So unlocked in this case means that only will work with a phone which is S-OFF?
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No. It's for S-ON and does not provide S-OFF. Just unlocks HBOOT so you can flash custom recovery, root and flash new rom.
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Gig11gs said:
Well as you can see I updated my wildfire S 2 or 3 days ago with OTA, so now when ever I try to flash the RUU from htcdev.com it fails be because "I Have a newer ROM version [ERROR 191]"
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If you look carefully, when choosing WFS, it has a * on the side saying that you have to update your HBOOT.

Anyway...it is not working for me. I put the file on my memory card and boot into the bootloader. it seems to load but I just don't get an option to update.

Thanks a lot! It says HBOOT 1.08.0099 with a LOCKED (OOW) above it.
Thanks a lot!
EDIT: LOVE YA MATE! IT WORKED! I NOW HAVE AN UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER! DDDD

tried this on mine and it says "Can not rollback HBOOT" then it bypasses the hboot update. It updates the radio just fine though.

Gig11gs said:
Well as you can see I updated my wildfire S 2 or 3 days ago with OTA, so now when ever I try to flash the RUU from htcdev.com it fails be because "I Have a newer ROM version [ERROR 191]"
so I extracted the Zip file from the RUU and flashed from SDcard and it worked !
WARNING THIS IS ONLY FOR EU UNLOCKED FOLLOW THIS GUIDE AT YOUR OWEN RESPONSIBILITY
1- Download this
2-Copy it to your Sdcard
3-Shutdown the phone
4-Start into Bootloader (Volume down + power)
5-Wait for it to Load the Zip file
6-chose yes (volume up)
And your done
now reboot and Delete the Zip file from Sdcard
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I already clicked thanks but I want to SAY thanks anyway.
I had my phone with the latest European RUU 2.3.5 but as stated on the HTCDEV.com site I needed the HBOOT update.
I tried to update with the RUU download from HTCDEV.com but I had a crazy error, not like any seen around here.
It wasn't 171 or 191, it just seemed trash.
I'm almost certain that the RUU's that HTC makes aren't prepared for Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 users.
Back then when I updated to 2.3.5 (by football) I had to unzip the RUU and replace some ADB files with newer ones.
With the file extracted and updated it worked. I even posted an updated version here on XDA for people that were having problems like me.
So now that my bootloader is unlocked I will proceed with the next steps.
Still have a long way to go.
Thanks again for your file. It worked like a charm.

thanks now get the missus phone unlocked thanks

LucidSomnia said:
No. It's for S-ON and does not provide S-OFF. Just unlocks HBOOT so you can flash custom recovery, root and flash new rom.
But first to install custom recovery and rom i have to s-off my device with the htc dev procedure right? hboot it s not enought
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Axel85 said:
LucidSomnia said:
No. It's for S-ON and does not provide S-OFF. Just unlocks HBOOT so you can flash custom recovery, root and flash new rom.
But first to install custom recovery and rom i have to s-off my device with the htc dev procedure right? hboot it s not enought
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It doesn't S-OFF, it allows u to root, cwm and flash custom roms. It's like a half s-off, because it doesnt allow flashing radio i think.
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SomeDudeOnTheNet said:
Axel85 said:
It doesn't S-OFF, it allows u to root, cwm and flash custom roms. It's like a half s-off, because it doesnt allow flashing radio i think.
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It s strange,I don t belive it s possible to flash custom recovery and roms without a s-off.Flashing the h-boot it s only a way to have the unlock code in htcdev program,so then we can have s-off and load some stuff
Correct me if I m wrong
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Axel85 said:
SomeDudeOnTheNet said:
It s strange,I don t belive it s possible to flash custom recovery and roms without a s-off.Flashing the h-boot it s only a way to have the unlock code in htcdev program,so then we can have s-off and load some stuff
Correct me if I m wrong
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It just unlocks the bootloader to give u root access to flash roms. I still have s-on after unlocking the bootloader.
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SomeDudeOnTheNet said:
Axel85 said:
It doesn't S-OFF, it allows u to root, cwm and flash custom roms. It's like a half s-off, because it doesnt allow flashing radio i think.
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I've got HBOOT 1.08.0099 with a LOCKED (OOW) above, still S-ON, but can't for the life of me seem to find a way to root or load a custom recovery successfully. I've tried numerous ways and I'm afraid if I keep screwing with it something is going to end up bricking the device.
How is everyone rooting and loading CWM?
Thanks a lot.
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Nucleotide said:
SomeDudeOnTheNet said:
I've got HBOOT 1.08.0099 with a LOCKED (OOW) above, still S-ON, but can't for the life of me seem to find a way to root or load a custom recovery successfully. I've tried numerous ways and I'm afraid if I keep screwing with it something is going to end up bricking the device.
How is everyone rooting and loading CWM?
Thanks a lot.
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If you have the locked thing, go to htcdev.com, after the page where u select your ruu, tgeres a button below to proceed. So, just follow the instructions from then on.
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SomeDudeOnTheNet said:
If you have the locked thing, go to htcdev.com, after the page where u select your ruu, tgeres a button below to proceed. So, just follow the instructions from then on.
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Now I feel extremely stupid. I can't believe I didn't see that button at the very bottom.
Thanks a lot.

Nucleotide said:
Now I feel extremely stupid. I can't believe I didn't see that button at the very bottom.
Thanks a lot.
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Haha, no problem.
via HTC Wildfire S powered by CM7.2

Nucleotide said:
Now I feel extremely stupid. I can't believe I didn't see that button at the very bottom.
Thanks a lot.
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Don't worry I made the same mistake and I even looked at the whole page it was my brother that pointed it out to me lmao
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eoghan2t7 said:
Don't worry I made the same mistake and I even looked at the whole page it was my brother that pointed it out to me lmao
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what ppl we are lmfao
via HTC Wildfire S powered by CM7.2

how to install custom while bootloader is locked and phone is rooted s-off

i rooted by using clockmod recovery (s-off) without unlocking the bootloader.so now i can install custom roms or not?

fireworker said:
i rooted by using clockmod recovery (s-off) without unlocking the bootloader.so now i can install custom roms or not?
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You need either a unlocked bootloader or S-Off to root a device.
If you are rooted properly then you can certainly flash Custom ROMs.
Before that go to ClockworkMod Recovery and take a complete Nandroid Backup of your current Stock ROM so that you can flash back Stock when you need.
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can i install custom rom without unlocking the bootloader or i have to unlock the bootloader?

You need a rooted device to flash Custom ROM. To get rooted you need to unlock the bootloader or make S-Off.
You said that you are rooted the device with S-off. That' enough you can flash any ROM.
Still if you are not sure you rooted or not just refer this guide:
http://androidforums.com/wildfire-s-all-things-root/480954-guide-how-root-wildfire-s-s-finally.html
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i cannot unlock bootloader because kernal version 2.6.35.10 ruu is not available on htcdev

Press <power> + Vol Down type what is displayed on your HBOOT.
If your Hboot version is 1.08.xxxx or later version you may skip the RUU Process and try to unlock the bootloader.
Follow the guide, it will help you to root.

I have Hboot Version 1.03.0000

fireworker said:
I have Hboot Version 1.03.0000
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You need to Update the bootloader thru HTCdev.com
Follow the steps carefully and patiently and update the bootloader. For RUU you have to choose according to your country/region and carrier, which matches with. But be sure to chose the right one.
You need to have installed HTC Sync, Android SDK and Java Runtime on your PC, those links are available with Guide itself.
After updating the bootloader, you need to root the device. Then install ClockworkMod Recovery, which will help you to take the Nandroid Backup of your STOCK ROM.
Thereafter if you need, can install LINK2SD which will help you to install all your apps on your SD Card. So that phone's internal memory will be increased and you can see a considrable fast with the device.
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as i told u my kenral verion ruu is not listed on htc dev i have already installed clockworkmod reccovery and lind2sd
i just want to install custom rom
all guides of installing custom roms says that u have to unlock bootloader to install custom rom

If you are S-OFF, then you can just install a ROM. There is no need to unlock the bootloader.

is there a way to unlock bootloader without htcdev

is there r chances to hard brick my phone while flashing custom rom?

Hi dear friend,
can you type exactly what is displayed on your HBOOT menu...?
I asked you already, but you didn't do it.....

Hi I'm just having trouble flashing recovery on my wildfire s, can u send me the correct RG67.img or what ever file I need , I'm firmware ver 2.3.5 and 1.0.9.0099.
I'm s on and not rooted but I am unlocked I need to flash then root but can't get the right files.. plz help man I spent 5 days goin in circles arghh
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st3wy said:
Hi I'm just having trouble flashing recovery on my wildfire s, can u send me the correct RG67.img or what ever file I need , I'm firmware ver 2.3.5 and 1.0.9.0099.
I'm s on and not rooted but I am unlocked I need to flash then root but can't get the right files.. plz help man I spent 5 days goin in circles arghh
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Download here:
http://androidforums.com/4801879-post750.html
if any doubts refer there itself.....
Hope this may be useful......if really press 'Thanks'

senthamil said:
hi dear friend,
can you type exactly what is displayed on your hboot menu...?
I asked you already, but you didn't do it.....
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marvel pvt ship s-off rl
hboot-1.03.0000
mi crop-0451
radio-7.46.35.00
jun 2 2011,17:50

fireworker said:
marvel pvt ship s-off rl
hboot-1.03.0000
mi crop-0451
radio-7.46.35.00
jun 2 2011,17:50
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Hi,
Since your bootloader says S-OFF, you can try any custom ROM.
Just refer the below link, If you like it just download the ROM and Flash it. See all the features listed there. It's not available with the STOCK ROM!....
http://androidforums.com/wildfire-s...ockernel-stable-apps2sd-premium-features.html
Hope this may be useful.....

I was thinking to flash wild child 2
Is it save to flash this rom means it didn't brick my phone
And how to create partition
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fireworker said:
is there a way to unlock bootloader without htcdev
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get a XTC-CLIP

Xtc-clip is not available in my country
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[Q] one x with s-off

hello all
i have s-off and i would like to install a custom rom
but i cant find guide to s-off phones
thanks

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2140308

Installing a custom rom is for a s-on and s-off device exactly the same !

Mr Hofs said:
Installing a custom rom is for a s-on and s-off device exactly the same !
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Thanks
But do i need to unlock the device ?

yaronler said:
hello all
i have s-off and i would like to install a custom rom
but i cant find guide to s-off phones
thanks
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Why you are asking for S-OFF guide if you are already S-OFFed ??
S-OFF for One X is not available yet so there isn't any guide for it. And if you have an S-OFF device, you probably are among those lucky people who've got a factory S-OFF phone.
yaronler said:
Thanks
But do i need to unlock the device ?
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You must unlock your bootloader if you want to flash a custom ROM.
See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2069904
Beamed from my HTC One X using xda premium

Thanks
But i didn't know if it is the same guide
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Mr Hofs said:
Installing a custom rom is for a s-on and s-off device exactly the same !
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^^
That means including of unlocking the bootloader

The Installation for s-on and s-off is the same?
I thought S-OFF don't need to flash the boot.img
So S-OFF devices only need an unlock, custom recovery.
They only need to flash the ROM but S-ON need to flash boot.img separate .
Isn't it right?

Thanks for your help
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D4rk_nVidia said:
The Installation for s-on and s-off is the same?
I thought S-OFF don't need to flash the boot.img
So S-OFF devices only need an unlock, custom recovery.
They only need to flash the ROM but S-ON need to flash boot.img separate .
Isn't it right?
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Its exactly the same as hofs said. Most Rom zips don't attempt to flash the boot.img in the installer script even though it would work with an s off phone.
Best off flashing the boot.img with fastboot if you don't know.
Restoring a nandroid will flash a boot though which is handy.
I put this together sometime ago which may be usefull to you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39962195
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Just lock up in HBOOT if your device is already unlocked...
If not then unlock your bootloader.

[q] no unlock or locked status

hello my friends
i got desire hd phone that is stuck at htc logo and when i entered to the hboot menu i found that there is no locked or unlocked status
and its s_on
i cant lock the bootloader or relock it
what can i do to install a stock ruu or custom rom?
i tried to update the hboot from the htc unlock boot loader web site but it stuck at 0% FOR LONG TIME
my regards

rashad543 said:
hello my friends
i got desire hd phone that is stuck at htc logo and when i entered to the hboot menu i found that there is no locked or unlocked status
and its s_on
i cant lock the bootloader or relock it
what can i do to install a stock ruu or custom rom?
i tried to update the hboot from the htc unlock boot loader web site but it stuck at 0% FOR LONG TIME
my regards
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Locked or unlocked status is shown only in updated hboots. If you are running older hboots it will show no notification. How did you get into that state?

glevitan said:
Locked or unlocked status is shown only in updated hboots. If you are running older hboots it will show no notification. How did you get into that state?
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thank you for your reply
i send my phone to a service center and they bricked my device !!
so please help me to fix it
i tried to update hboot from htc dev site but it stuck at 0%

rashad543 said:
thank you for your reply
i send my phone to a service center and they bricked my device !!
so please help me to fix it
i tried to update hboot from htc dev site but it stuck at 0%
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You need to try flashing a ruu
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glevitan said:
You need to try flashing a ruu
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i really do but my cid is htc-044 which is for asia and i cant find in the rom center a xx.xx.707.xx ruu

Make a gold card to flash a non-matching RUU.

bananagranola said:
Make a gold card to flash a non-matching RUU.
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my hboot is 2.00.0027
can i flash GB stock rom or its for froyo roms ???
My regards

rashad543 said:
my hboot is 2.00.0027
can i flash GB stock rom or its for froyo roms ???
My regards
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For a RUU, doesn't matter.

bananagranola said:
For a RUU, doesn't matter.
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i tried an ruu but it stock at 0%
what should i do please